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@KeAiFu
@KeAiFu 57 минут бұрын
For a 85/1.4 I prefer the softer Bokeh, so overall I would take the Sigma.
@ADPproductionsGR
@ADPproductionsGR 4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for reviewing the lens! Unfortunately, it’s not the best choice for astrophotography since it tends to deform the stars quite a bit, which is noticeable in the sample images in the review. Also, just a heads-up, those lines you see aren’t comets but the trails of satellites passing through.
@Keilikeramen
@Keilikeramen 5 сағат бұрын
Sigma with a7cr and a9 no issue at all. I never want to change
@andyaldworth7807
@andyaldworth7807 5 сағат бұрын
Great review as always! Thank you. 🙏
@ooharloo
@ooharloo 6 сағат бұрын
The new 85GM is stellar but not 60+% percent better than the sigma.
@chrisbale11
@chrisbale11 6 сағат бұрын
I know this video is a bit old, but I was wondering if anyone could advise me on whether the Sony GP-VPT2BT is compatible with bulb mode. Basically, I want to know if I can start and end the shutter opening using the remote. My camera is A7 IV. Thanks!
@TennilleEngquist-g9w
@TennilleEngquist-g9w 6 сағат бұрын
Olson Forest
@baku153
@baku153 7 сағат бұрын
I saw some of your videos, and they look really nice. What setup are you using? It also looks like you are not using an ND filter but cranking up the shutter speed to accommodate the bright light outside.
@A.Tom2517
@A.Tom2517 11 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the review! I happened to buy the 50-400mm JUST before Tamron released this one...What do you think about the image quality of these two? Are there any noticable difference?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
They really aren't radically different optically, so I don't think you're losing anything.
@A.Tom2517
@A.Tom2517 10 сағат бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Well, if the 400 isn't any better optically, then the extra 100mm isn't relly worth the extra size and weight. That's what I meant...In this case the 50-400 is a bit pointless in my opinion. But hey, thanks for the quick answer! :)
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube 11 сағат бұрын
17:28 you can see the Sony is a noticeably wider than the Sigma, maybe a 2-3mm difference, for ex the Sony could be 83mm and the Sigma could be 86mm. That does have an impact on the bokeh balls and background rendering.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
That's true.
@michaelajoseph6856
@michaelajoseph6856 12 сағат бұрын
Thank you! Very helpful video.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jremi
@jremi 12 сағат бұрын
This is so true, even 8 years later. For example, there are still no pro grade APS-C lens for the Canon R7. This is really frustrating. Canon seems determined to push professionals towards full frame when, in fact, many pros do use cropped sensors because they understand they are the best tools for some jobs.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
It's rather absurd, but that is what has given companies like Fuji space to operate.
@rockbyter2011
@rockbyter2011 13 сағат бұрын
hi, nice review. I have a Sony A6700 with Tamron 18-300 lens. I use a smallrig cage with its own type of dovetail mount and would be interested to know if this locking plate will fit? Also with the lens hanging out front would it be stable. thanks
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
Hmmm, I haven't tested it with a Smallrig grip/cage, but those are designed for Arca compatibility, so it should work. No promises, though. The Tamron is far from being so heavy that it would cause balance issues.
@rockbyter2011
@rockbyter2011 10 сағат бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks
@michaelajoseph6856
@michaelajoseph6856 14 сағат бұрын
Thank you for a thoroughly review as usual. I found this lens used and I bought it for my Sony 7Cii. It will be my first 85mm prime. I han only 55mm
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
Enjoy!
@VictorChu-n4d
@VictorChu-n4d 15 сағат бұрын
is this a fingerprint magnet?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
not if you primary grab them on the edges.
@gopalpanday4921
@gopalpanday4921 17 сағат бұрын
❤❤❤
@merlinbernese
@merlinbernese 17 сағат бұрын
Great video thanks. What about this low weigh lens f3.5 for astrolandcape photography ?? I would really aooreciate your comments about. Thanks in advance. Alberto
@ramspencer5492
@ramspencer5492 22 сағат бұрын
For me this is largely a portrait focal length.... And maximum micro-contrast is not something I'm looking for in a portrait lens. Would have liked to have seen some portrait examples.... But I'm guessing I might actually prefer the sigma for that application.
@Kingsaif2099
@Kingsaif2099 Күн бұрын
Does this work with the official canon battery
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 10 сағат бұрын
Definitely does.
@soloxninja
@soloxninja Күн бұрын
can you show how to pair the remote control its not working for me my version of the lens is v6
@kylehaughey3216
@kylehaughey3216 Күн бұрын
I am somewhat confused, these are asp-c spec’s lenses at 16mm. Does this not mean that the focal length on a cropped sensor is 16mm and not 24mm that you mentioned early into the video? if you used a full frame lens on an aspc frame?
@jean-philippeperetti8463
@jean-philippeperetti8463 Күн бұрын
I'm just an amateur and live on a fixed pension income. The Sony GM lens is 2500 CAD. What!!! Seriously!?!? Hard to justify but I see that the Sony GM lens has advantages over the Sigma. I need to start to save money but how long is that going to take!
@lilyfirenze
@lilyfirenze Күн бұрын
A not buying decision :))) It's not 1.2!!! Case closed, everyone is dismissed. I go back to hating my Sony GM 85 1.4 Ver 1. and loving my Canon FD 85 1.8. I prefer softness, smoothness and great filmic skintones in portrait lens.
@RealRaynedance
@RealRaynedance Күн бұрын
If the AF is even remotely as accurate on Z-mount, I just might be able to retire my a7III from portrait use.
@clausgiloi6036
@clausgiloi6036 Күн бұрын
120fps vs 15fps on the A9iii makes the Sigma a non-starter for me.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
That's fair.
@pedrol.5417
@pedrol.5417 Күн бұрын
It is not the lens for that camera, but it is for the rest of the Sony A7... It is a superb combo the Sigma 85 1.4 DG DN with the A7RV.
@livejames9374
@livejames9374 18 сағат бұрын
How often is 85mm used for 120fps applications lol
@bikelikebeat7174
@bikelikebeat7174 Күн бұрын
I don't understand how can be possible to test the best two portrait lens in the world, without shooting one portrait 🤷🏻
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
I've shot portraits with both of them, which show up in their individual reviews.
@zibizibanello4174
@zibizibanello4174 Күн бұрын
Based on the photos from your test, it seems to me that the Sigma is sharper. Is that really the case?
@zibizibanello4174
@zibizibanello4174 Күн бұрын
Especially at 28 in the center mm you can clearly see the advantage of Sigma. At least that's how it can be seen in the photo you showed
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
There is some give and take between the two, depending on what focal length and where you look in the frame.
@D800Lover
@D800Lover Күн бұрын
Thank you. This lens needs good light and think of it as an F8 lens and use accordingly. The high resolution of the camera body is not otherwise exploited. But still, never seen a Fuji lens that is not very usable. It's a Fuji lens!
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
There are some soft Fuji lenses out there, but yes, stopped down this lens does improve.
@Patrick.Fontana
@Patrick.Fontana Күн бұрын
Bonjour et merci pour ce test toujours aussi précis et complet. J'ai l'impression que la profondeur de champ du Sigma et du Sony ne sont pas les mêmes à 1.4 Avez-vous essayé de mettre le Sigma à 1.8 pour voir si la netteté n'est pas meilleure et évidemment le bokeh ne sera pas aussi doux ? C'est juste une réflexion… Encore merci et bonne continuation, un français qui vous suit 😉
@kkim9669
@kkim9669 2 күн бұрын
Always thanks for your great review
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
My pleasure!
@ys7523
@ys7523 2 күн бұрын
Excellent comparison! Thank you so much, Dustin! I would imagine that the 85mm GM Mark i will have even softer bokeh in comparison. I own that one, and I absolutely love its rendering.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
I would say it and the Sigma are fairly close in that regard.
@Reviews4fun1
@Reviews4fun1 2 күн бұрын
I would like to thank Sigma for making a set of stellar lenses for most of us. I have several.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
For sure.
@user-pg5rt7ju4f
@user-pg5rt7ju4f 2 күн бұрын
jees, I didn't know this review is 4 yrs old & the handsome looking 11mm has been around that long. It is small & seems very well made & only $215 for that kind of barrel material finish. I just saw it in a b&h ad that flashed in my e-mail screen. I'd buy it if not for the 16mm w/SR/MC mount I have owned for may be 40 yrs. It's very good, very sharp & w/ 4 built-in filters but quite heavy. { added: now adapted MC--> E.} I wish it were the later MD version, just as good or better , but lighter. There was a R-mount version for Leica R bodies. This TT11mm fish certainly looks handsomely compact & lighter. Whoever's going to own it, enjoy. It's a different optics game demanding a diff way of seeing.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
It's a nicely built lens for the money.
@alexmirza5210
@alexmirza5210 2 күн бұрын
I couldn't always see much sharpness or contrast advantage for the new sony, but huge advantages in distortion and vignetting. To be honest I'm not tempted away from my "ancient" zeiss batis 85 f1.8. Plus it's stabilised.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
The Batis does have some strengths, for sure.
@Sparky_oto
@Sparky_oto 2 күн бұрын
Great review! My use case involves AF tracking a high energy dog running towards me at full speed. Would you recommend getting the Sony over Sigma, or is neither going to be able to keep up on an A7R5?
@Reviews4fun1
@Reviews4fun1 2 күн бұрын
Get a 70-200 f/2.8
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
The GM will definitely keep up with that. Not the Sigma.
@Sparky_oto
@Sparky_oto Күн бұрын
@@Reviews4fun1 I have that too! It’s a great lens that works well until golden hour kicks in and I still want to keep iso low with 1/1500s to freeze my dog in motion 💨
@DCMedien
@DCMedien 2 күн бұрын
I`m at around 3k Images with the new 85 GM ii, its absolute fantastic. Nails AF every time, and the details are amazing. Even better than the 135mm GM, and i thought that wouldnt be possible
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
AF is one of the key areas.
@thomasshi8863
@thomasshi8863 2 күн бұрын
Great comparison! The real-world photos have slightly different exposure with the Sony having 1/3 stop more light. Maybe next time you can switch to manual exposure? And I guess the Sigma being a "longer" lens helps to deliver softer bokeh.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
The problem with manually exposing in these types of comparisons is that you are biasing results towards one or the other of the lenses. If the lenses don't have the same light transmission, you are purposefully either underexposing or overexposing one.
@gigxr
@gigxr 2 күн бұрын
bro has philippine pesos 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🦅🦅🦅
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
My daughter brought me those after visiting the Philippines.
@stkuj
@stkuj 2 күн бұрын
I’m a huge fan of Sigma! I’ve owned both the 35 & 85 1.4 DG DN since they came out. No reason to change (I also like the look of Sigma image).
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
Fair enough.
@Jwitherow1964
@Jwitherow1964 2 күн бұрын
Your a hard working man!
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
That is true.
@Marc-op3ov
@Marc-op3ov 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Dustin, great job, but the sigma now 4 years old is still a very good lens!
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
It has held up well.
@DidierMOULINPhotography
@DidierMOULINPhotography 2 күн бұрын
Hi Justin. I just ordered a Sigma DG DN for my L mount cameras today on the used market and found your video later this afternoon ! Well, apparently the Sigma is already a great performer and I kind of appreciate more the background out of focus softness than the one of the Sony. Anyhow I can’t use a Sony gm on my S1R … I will compare this DG DN with my Leica APO Summicron 75 which is astonishing. If the Sigma is far from the Leica I will send it back … or in the contrary I will get rid of the Leica and recover some cash 😊 Great review again, as usual.
@reinhardbecker284
@reinhardbecker284 2 күн бұрын
I also use the Sigma on my S1R and are totally happy with it! It is a great portrait lens. I don‘t have experience with the Leica, but for portraits vignetting, distortion and microcontrast is not the main topic. The background on the other side is great…
@DidierMOULINPhotography
@DidierMOULINPhotography Күн бұрын
@@reinhardbecker284 thanks Yes that is what matters for portraits for me too.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
Glad it helped out.
@DidierMOULINPhotography
@DidierMOULINPhotography Күн бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks Dustin. Cheers from France 😊
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 2 күн бұрын
12:22 Did the color profile change between these two shots? The GM lens is totally de-saturated.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
No. I've done essentially no post work on any of these results (just sharpened the RAW files on import) so that this can be apples to apples.
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 Күн бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I believe I heard you say you left vignette compensation on for the Sigma lens so that's probably what I'm seeing.
@bizpixvegas7651
@bizpixvegas7651 2 күн бұрын
Thank you Dustin for the comparison. I have shot with the Sigma and thought it was fantastic. This video shows that the Sony is even better. I almost bought a used Sigma for $750. A brand new Sony, after taxes will cost me $1,950. Is the Sony $1,200 better than the Sigma? Money no object, hands down Sony. If cost is an issue, then Sigma both used or new is a great deal.
@robertcudlipp3426
@robertcudlipp3426 2 күн бұрын
This has almost always been the case. That is why I own so many Sigma lens, in both apsc and ff format.
@robertcudlipp3426
@robertcudlipp3426 2 күн бұрын
As usual, another excellent review. Whilst there's no doubting the optical quality of the majority of the GM range of glass, unless you are a pro, or a very keen hobbyist, with correspondingly deep pockets, the Sony GM range is simply too expensive for my ultra hobbyist needs. Sigma has and continues to offer excellent quality glass, for both apsc and ff formats at excellent value pricing.
@proksalevente
@proksalevente 2 күн бұрын
1200$ better? That's more than an average months salary in my country, so I'd get the sigma. Unless you have an 50mpix + camera, you will not see the difference in IQ. Do you need the faster AF? If yes, I'd wait a year or so until the sony gets cashbacks / discounts.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
The Sony being worth $1200 more is a hard argument to make unless you happen to be shooting the kinds of action that justify the Sony's expense. As an amateur or hobbyist, I would argue that it isn't worth it.
@bizpixvegas7651
@bizpixvegas7651 9 сағат бұрын
@@proksalevente I have shot with a Sony A7RIV (60MP) camera and Sigma 85mm f1.4. The Sigma is super sharp and perhaps the best lens I have ever shot with. I am sure Sony is better but not $1,200 better. With that said, if I had the budget, I would get the Sony. But in the real world, the difference is lot of money for me.
@AR-vf7vg
@AR-vf7vg 2 күн бұрын
Double off-place but "still".. : If portraits had to be done by a zoom in the 70-150mm range, then this or the GM 70-200mm (mark II) ?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
I'd be happy with either. The GM is going to be better in backlit situations, but the Tamron's focal range is obviously much more versatile.
@bri_v
@bri_v 2 күн бұрын
If you had the choice between this and the Voigtlander 20mm f/3.5, which one would you prefer?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
One of them is a full frame lens, the other APS-C. I like the Voigtlander's colors and bokeh better, but the Canon is sharper and obviously has autofocus.
@bri_v
@bri_v Күн бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI I'm a little surprised about the sharpness on the Voigtlander, and by some of the feedback on it. I was just thrilled to discover they had a handful of lenses for Canon that I was unaware of.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
I owned that lens for a while. It isn't particularly sharp, but it did produce images that I liked despite that.
@bri_v
@bri_v Күн бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI Yes, it looks like it has that vintage charm to it, not razor sharp, but makes up for it with its atmosphere & character... I saw a few used ones online that were not terribly more expensive than the Canon, so that got me thinking 😄
@AR-vf7vg
@AR-vf7vg 2 күн бұрын
This one or the GM 24-70mm f2 ? ..😁just teasing
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
That's an easy one for me - the Tamron.
@AR-vf7vg
@AR-vf7vg Күн бұрын
@@DustinAbbottTWI ( I'm very much looking forwards for such GM f2 24-70. As for a GM f1.2 28mm and GM f1.4 75mm)
@Gantade
@Gantade 2 күн бұрын
Always love your reviews! I can't wait to try the 85mm GM II tmr :)
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
Enjoy!
@TheBEARofHIGHWAY1
@TheBEARofHIGHWAY1 2 күн бұрын
The Sony is better but for more than half the price the Sigma is amazing. Like unless one is rich or uses a 85mm literally all the time I can not see any reason to own the Sony as the Sigma is so good. I will keep the Sigma and know from this its second best.
@PatrickWithCamera
@PatrickWithCamera 2 күн бұрын
Probably one reason, autofocus, to get the most pictures in focus at events that u cannot repeat and you have one chance. Personally I would chose sigma, because I have no pressure to get all pictures in perfect focus and I like bokeh more on sigma.
@TheBEARofHIGHWAY1
@TheBEARofHIGHWAY1 2 күн бұрын
@@PatrickWithCamera maybe but I just used my Sigma 85 after watching this video and I shot about 60 photos walking around town and only 1 missed focus and I am unsure if maybe I was MF the focus myself. So never had a problem with the AF on the SIgma and actually bought it because of Dustins other review comparing the Sigma to the original Sony GM 85.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
I think this is fair, and shows the value of brands like Sigma who provide quality alternatives for those who don't have a GM kind of budget.
@sgpork
@sgpork Күн бұрын
Come on. Comment section.. You dont need to be rich to have a 85GM ii lens. You guys say as if it cost 20k or few hundred thousands..
@TheBEARofHIGHWAY1
@TheBEARofHIGHWAY1 Күн бұрын
@@sgpork No but if you only use a 85mm once in a blue moon, then wasting $2k on a lens is probably not the best use of money.
@ROOOMC
@ROOOMC 2 күн бұрын
Can you compare the size of the night spot and the blurring ability of the 85 1.4DGDN~ GM2, Canon 85 1.2, Nikon 85 1.2?
@ROOOMC
@ROOOMC 2 күн бұрын
Why do I feel that Sony's 1.2 lens is just 1.2 in brightness? The blur and spot size are not good
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Күн бұрын
I'm afraid not. I don't have any of those lenses on hand and I've got months of reviews already booked.