He's too chicken to come play in the South.

I mean why not try and create a bomb squad yourself? They probably should just ban South Africans from everything to satisfy their ego. We give Scotland a run for their money in Bagpipes, we are often in the podium for many different martial arts, we export some really good Soccer player (because why play for Bafana?). The only reason we don't have better Olympians is because you need money to be able to live and keep you going until you can get to the Olympics to even make it it back. South African has also been in the top 3 in the international Cosplay competition at comic con San Diego for the past few years. We only got our first Comic Con in 2019

I don’t understand the critics talk as if only the boks have 8 subs- all the teams do so why is it unethical? All other teams bring on fresh legs as well

we were complaining too in the New Zealand dominance era with Carter and McCaw etc. We blamed coaches, we blamed players - sometimes justified, sometimes not. Our coaches and players back then didn't have an answer for that NZ team - they were practically untouchable, even when we (or anyone) somehow beat them in a single game we knew they were still the best in the world. That's where SA is now but the wheel turns, it won't last forever but I'm glad it's lasted beyond a fluke. Rassie's leadership and bets have paid off. We've got a few once-in-a-generation players like Eben, Kolbe and others. We were really struggling 10 years ago to keep our best talent. Despite the country's challenges, our rugby is in a great space. Rassie can't be coach forever, the next guy will have a massive shadow to walk into - good luck to that guy.

The guy doesn't float my boat... Come down here, play in NZ, play in SA win trophies down here then you can talk.

From an SA point of view one must remember that we have had some great scrumhalves in the past like Fourie du Preez and Joost. It's difficult to imagine that he can be better. From what I've seen, he is very good but considering him the best player of all time is pushing it. I'm not even convinced that he is the best scrumhalf ever, in fact I think both Du Preez and Joost were better and then we are only talking about Springboks.

Bok fan here... We do rate him. Du Pont is something special and probably/arguably the best player in the world right now. If not the greatest of all time. There you have just heard the words in South Africa.

He has to prove himself as an extraordinary player and match winner in test matches played in SA and NZ. These are the ultimate testing conditions in world rugby.

James is 2nd only to Danie Gerber for me in terms of Bok legends! I was fortunate to have randomly bumped into him twice on the street in Cape Town, and he was super cool both times, which only made him even more of a legend in my book! 🤘

I had the pleasure of being at school with James back in '84 / '85 at Greenside High. Watched him score tries from his try line at fullback and finish first in the 100 meters. Bumped into him many times later after school and always had absolute respect for him. My greatest Springbok, and glad I can support his legacy by purchasing this book. I still have his CD, A Small Collection - James Small's favourites 1996, which I uploaded to Spotify.

I had the pleasure of being at school with James back in '84 / '85 at Greenside High. Watched him score tries from his try line at fullback and finish first in the 100 meters. Bumped into him many times later after school and always had absolute respect for him. My greatest Springbok, and glad I can support his legacy by purchasing this book. I still have his CD, A Small Collection - James Small's favourites 1996, which I uploaded to Spotify.

Fourie Dupreez was the best scrumhalf of all tile. Hands down...

This guy loves his rugby,you can see His passionate rhe way He comments and interacts with every comment on his videos. Thanks Pete

This whole ridiculous argument about DuPont being a goat came from him coming top in a poll voted on by fans on Planet Rugby where he won after his performance in last years European Champions Cup and since then this whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. From winning a fans poll on Planet Rugby to fuelling debates on rugby social media content somehow has led to this being interpreted on this show as a SH or South Africa vs the NH argument which it isn’t really. There is no doubt that he is currently one of the best players in the game at the moment but I am not sure until he retires that any goat conversation has any merit or that anyone . In anycase calling a player a goat without a baseline or any form of assessing a players greatness is purely subjective and based on the opinion of that fan and likely what team he supports rather than a concerted attempt to disrespect other players from different hemispheres. I don’t think that DuPont is a goat, perhaps at the end of his career he might well be in the conversation but that shouldn’t stop an acknowledgement that DuPont is currently also a world class player in the same way that PDT or Etsebeth are thought to be. It does not detract from their achievements, it just means he is also in the conversation. I don’t see what is wrong with that . Rugby fans from all countries are always going to uligise and consider one of their player may be considered the best or a goat and so what ? That’s what fans do. And even if they do call their player the best over your own , it’s nothing to get upset about and nor does it mean that your players are being disrespected, it’s just someone else’s opinion .

That tackle he made on Jonah Lomu during the super 12 match Auckland vs Natal. And when he scored against Samoa in 1994. The commentator - " 14 Men on the field and number 14 scores the try". The 1997 lions also feared him.

Hamilton played for Scotland

Just because we don't agree with the NH pundits that he is the GOAT, they then go straight to we don't rate him. Childish really. We all believe he is a top player. Move on

You are a class act Pete

Absolutely no problem with the bomb squad!! You're allowed 8 substitutions, it's up to you what you do with those 8 players!! It's high risk, high reward! You risk not having enough backs if a player gets injured or you can have more fresh, big guys making more impact! If you've got the fire power, go for it!!🏉🏉

He is a great player. And South Africans actually do rate him. We just don't tend to hype people easily in general. Took us a long time to acknowledge McCaw, Wilkinson, or Carter as some of the greatest in their positions ever. Just takes a bit of time for us. That's all.

🤧🤔... The North can keep calling their players "the greatest players of all time" 🤦🏾‍♂️😌... The South will keep winning the world cups 😏

blame CAREL ALL YOU WANT , BUT MALLET INHERITED CARELS LAST TEAM AFTER THAT DRUBBING OF AUSTRALIE . MALLET WAS GOOD BUT AN ABSOLUTE ASSHOLE

I know its probably impossible but if you you can ,GET HENRY HONIBALL on THE SHOW .

Gee whizz.... didn't realise he was dead 😐 Maybe I had forgotten. "Suspicious circumstances" was mentioned. But then again....never let the truth get in the way of a good story, obviously not saying his death was good.

1996

Btw Pete, did you ever watch the video clip I sent you? Of James playing for the sharks against The Auckland Blues, and flinging Jonah on his arse? It was possibly the best tackle I’ve ever seen… just this massive surge of attack and speed turned into an immediate halt by one mad South African

I’m sitting waiting!🤣

Goode doesn't know the difference between arrogance and confidence...but then again he's English so we can understand why he said that....he's a muppet!!🤣

It’s not rugby’s fiercest debate. My guess Is that most SA fans don’t care what media propagandists say about him. Most certainly DuPont himself and most NH fans couldn’t care less what the other SA fans who do care think. The fierce debate should be if it’s worth it for the European clubs to continue to play against such dismal SA club sides.

Best player of all time...Mike Gibson....always stood out on a poorish team .

They do see DuPont play. There are televisions in South Africa, surprisingly.

What is south Africa rugby? A dipped team stealing one first World Cup, one lucky team that wins another world cup with horrible rugby and horrible people and a confused referee . You have no honor and no spirit.

Bullshit Freddie Michalak is the best french player from A Springbok supporter.

The difference between Dupont and PSDT or Kolbe is that he plays in the most competitive league in the world and he manages to be the best player of this league MOTM final, regular season best player while PSDT and many others SA play in the japanese league. He also performs in the Champions Cup (just check last year final, this may be the best individual performance ever). He also does the same thing in VI nations (3times best player) and he's also awesome during RWC (he was literally the best french olayer during this 1/4 final). So if you dont watch the best european club competition, the best league, VI nations and RWC you can't see how good he is. In europe we do watch Test match and Rugby championship but its ehat, like 8-10 games ? You pretend that a player who performs for such few games can be compared to a player that play 3 times more games ? Doesnt work for me.

My thing is why is he rated that high? Greatest rugby player EVER???????

Respect to all players as you say in the northern hemisphere however if you don't come south, we don't know who you are... Rugby is still the same game, but things have changes with stats. There's a reason PSDT wins player of the year, he's in the top position for tackles, gain line advantage, charge downs. Name the stat, he's probably #1. Gimme the stats for all players and we can talk who is on top of which category i.e. points, metres made, charge downs, line outs caught, furthest box kick etc. Which brings up a point: should there be a forward and back player of the year. e.g. if Ramos kicks 300 points in a season and PSDT makes 300 tackles who do you pick (possible have 2 different trophies).

Why doesn't Dupont play in international rugby during the southern hemisphere winter?

Kolisi was a complete wash-out at Racing on and off the field. He went under the radar of every French and european media. He was so transparent, he did nothing for the game. The opposite of Dupont in fact...

if you love rugby, you love Dupont! More than a great player, he is a magicien. His skills are amazing, his rugby IQ beautifull. One day, France will be world champion and then you wil know. Untill then, watching the blacks or the S.A play against France will carry the most exciting emotion a fan can imagine. Respect to them. Let s try as rugby fan, not fall in some useless debate, let us just enjoy the game.

The good thing about all of this is that Dupont doesn't care about all this talking around him, negative or positive comments. He plays his rugby and achieves his goals. The guy is so humble, please leave him out of this constant bashing. NZ is historically as good as SA and produced unbelievable players and they don't give a shit about the matter. If you spoke French and would watch interviews of Dupont, you would be amazed by the kindness and down to earth approach of the person. He doesn't deserve this hate. Remember that Kolbe and Etzebeth played in France and we know very well how amazing players they are.

Dan Carter is the greatest of all time. I'm South African and that fucker has caused us so many headaches that i can't help but say he is simply the best ever.

Du Pont maybe good in the North but down south is a different ball game.

Dupont is great in club rugby. Not so much on test level. There he is simply good, not great.

Won the world cup by 1 point against 14 men for 40 minutes !

Jim Hamilton wasn't an England player, he played for Scotland I rate Dupont - the French are a different team with him, but its true that I have not seen enough him. So its true that there's bias, NH always rave about their player, but I always think, I'll reserve judgement when I see that player play the Boks IN SA... Against the Boks, tho, I was really impressed with Mauvaka and Antonio and their impact

SA fans trying so hard to rationalize their Dupont-bashing and making it look like an objective POV is hillarious. The fact only you "collectively" hold a *feint* disregard for AD9 should challenge yourselves. You brought up some fallacious arguments in this vid. "We're used to World class players", doesn't mean they compare to Dupont. This would be an argument in a debate of who's the biggest talents pool, not which individual is the best. You feel disrespected, and you're going to feel even more so reading what's next but I swear I love you: you have a 3rd World country mentality when it comes to rugby because it might be the only field you're doing great at the minute and the Boks represents you internationally in a positive way (with Musk), that's part of why you're so invested and tribalistic (a bit like Argentineans and soccer for example). Touching the Boks is touching the gem of SA. You want all the praise and can't stand that most consider a player outside of yours and your hemisphere as the best. 5:27 A great player from here comes along and you freak out that he gets more credit than yours (who are salivated over by NH opinionists contrarily to what you say). Putting Dupont in the same list as Blanco or Benazzi, saying you're not even sure he's France's GOAT, that he's just a very good player like a lot of SA podcasters, further undermines your credibility. Also, let's stop with the NH vs SH bullshit. These are heterogeneous groups of nations with different interests, cultures etc. The Brits, who are the majority in the North, are closer to South Africa which is in the Commonwealth. I know you had a troublesome history too with them, but if there's an odd man in the group, it's France (only non-anglo-saxon top tier team and historical rival outside of sports too). Sorry if I seem arrogant and abrasive but so do you guys, probably because Afrikaners and French share a lot of DNA in common.😘

Your argument is pointless, this is not because you win the world cup (with 6 to 8 games top) that you have the best player in the world. Your parallel you start with football, could be a good conterargument, messi has been recognized has the best player several years before he won only his first world cup.

agree; DEPONT IS RATED FROM AM0NG THE CURENT SCRUMHALVES IN THE WORLD;THATS NO, ONE NO TWO S/AFRICAN SCRUMHALVES MAKES HIM LOOK GOOD SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SHARE THE NO, NINE JERSEY

I disagree with your assessment starting at 7:00. The argument that we can’t hail DuPont because he has no World Cup is fair when considering he’s a player in a roster capable of winning. A good Namibian can be given a pass but we can’t give that same pass to players in competitive teams that consistently underperform when at the highest stage. It’s why when we count the greatest Boks we list guys with world cups because the teams have always been good enough to compete, same as the greatest All Blacks. We name the World Cup winners because the All black teams have always been talented. France is talented. Let’s not forget they only lost by a point to the Boks. That’s enough to show you they themselves could have won world cups…”greatest ever” conversation begins and ends with winning the highest prize in World Rugby.

4:17 and i assume to say to you won world cups with so many helps of referees. You should have two of your world cup if at the time these referees were not south emisphere referees. not to mantionned that the most powerfull federation represented in the instance of world rugby is south africa. with all the sin who come with it. Money money money ...