Nike Zoomfly 6 vs Saucony Endorphin Speed 4

[@TomCantu-q2x]

I own both of those shoes and you described them perfectly. Good job.

[@run-are]

@@TomCantu-q2x thanks for the comment!

[@eleftheriazigiri8403]

I appreciate your reviews my friend!! I really get you :) I own both and I agree, I like them both but they don't seem to compare when it comes to interval workouts!! looking to replace my speed 4s now and I really struggle to find a good contentder for my speed workouts so I would love to hear a nice suggestion!!! Light, forefoot striker, high cadence runner here🤗

[@cheths]

Could you please consider comparing Zoomfly 6 vs Asics Magicspeed 4? Discovered your channel a few days ago. Subscribed and watched all your recent videos. You deserve to have a lot more subs than you do at the moment.

[@run-are]

@@cheths thanks mate! Feel free to share the reviews around. The Zoomfly v Magic Speed is a great idea and I'll add that one to the list. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@CCRun34]

I have both. I’m personally biased to the ASICS comfort but Nike ZF6 is a unique experience.

[@cheths]

@@run-are Thanks for the response. Few folks in my run club are already susbscribed to your channel. Keep up the great work!

[@cheths]

As an ASICS guy myself, i'm always inclined towards their foam and the comfort it provides. Glad you like ZF6. I've been trying to include some variety in my rotation and hence was curious about ZF6 to replace my Magic Speed

[@CCRun34]

@@cheths I’ve had some paranoia about getting too comfortable in one brand (ie ASICS) - so I’ve considered it mandatory to strengthen my legs by trying out other foams and designs. Nike (despite being bashed by runfluencers) was always kind to my legs (except invincible 3) along with maybe Adidas and ON (just to experiment)

[@dreamcatcherfan1382]

As someone owning all 4 versions of the Speed I'm not overly fussed over the changes Saucony made to the line. I'll be getting the 5th version when it becomes available next year. Mind you, I do think the Zoomfly 6 represents excellent value for what you are getting relative to some of its peers. Nice comparison.

[@run-are]

@@dreamcatcherfan1382 thanks for the comment

[@Decisions4u]

Great detailed ride comparison review.

[@run-are]

@@Decisions4u thanks!

[@vicentepastorfrances9543]

No he probado estas dos, pero si tengo la speed 3 y es la mejor zapatilla de entrenamiento tempo que he tenido, y la uso para todo

[@run-are]

@@vicentepastorfrances9543 I don't speak Spanish but I googled the translation 😂😂 I think it says you love the Endorphin Speed 3 and use it for all types of runs...? Thanks for the comment!

[@vicentepastorfrances9543]

@ yes is too expensive buy a slow shoe, a tempo shoe and a race shoe. Before i use the Nike pegasus for training and vaporfaly for races, now i use the endorphin speed for slow and tempo trainging, and vaporfly for intervals training and races. Sorry for my english

[@run-are]

@@vicentepastorfrances9543 thanks for sharing your experience

[@yangavava7216]

ZF6 vs Neo Vista/Mach X2/Superblast 2

[@run-are]

@@yangavava7216 thanks for the suggestions!

[@robbarnett524]

ZF6 arriving today. I sold my Speed 4, first time I've sold a pair of Speeds. Just find them really boring and flat. Shame as I've loved the series, especially Speed 2 which i still hold as best all round shoe made

[@livegreatalways]

Ya man, I will.buy a pair of ZF6 too

[@MrJuitjuit]

I recently bought Speed 4. Still sitting in the box. Am thinking of sending it back since there is not much difference between Speed 3 and 4 which I find Speed 3 rather flat and no bounce after comparing to Superblast 1. I miss Speed 1 & 2

[@robbarnett524]

@@MrJuitjuit I even preferred the Speed 3 over the 4 tbh. I think it is just declining with each version which is a real shame

[@MrJuitjuit]

@ that's good to know. At least I know I'm making the right choice. Pity I can't find/buy Superblast 2 anywhere. I have a feeling ZF6 will not be as good as Speed 1 or 2.

[@robbarnett524]

@MrJuitjuit Maybe. Mine arrived today. Feel comfortable. Will take them out this week

[@davidcummings7735]

Great comparison, how does the Zoomfly 6 compare with the Nike Pegasus Plus in particular at Tempo/threshold pace?.

[@run-are]

@@davidcummings7735 thanks! Good question, both are totally different...like chalk and cheese but great at tempo effort. The Peg really nimble and natural feeling, lower to the ground and the Zoomfly is the bigger stack, softer, more bounce and rockered. What type of shoe do you prefer? Natural feeling or big stack, stiff and rockered?

[@davidcummings7735]

@run-are I have the Peg Plus in my rotation just under my VaporFly 2 for race days I thought the Zoomfly 6 might slot in better as a Tempo trainer for the VF2's, being another plated high stack shoe what are your thoughts?.

[@run-are]

@davidcummings7735 The Zoomfly 6 would be a great addition to most rotations out there due to its versatility. I'd prefer it over the Peg Plus for workouts just because it's got more protection from the road and I pull up better the next day. I bottom out the Peg Plus for some reason but I do still enjoy it. If you want another shoe I'd go for it, even if you don't like it as much as the Peg Plus for your workouts you can still use it for daily miles and long runs.

[@davidcummings7735]

@@run-are thanks for your prompt responses and advice,more than likely will purchase a pair of the ZF6's and slot them into my rotation, looking forward to comparing to my other trainers. Cheers David.

[@MrJuitjuit]

@@run-are what would your recommendation be if I'm after a shoe which is close to Speed 1 or 2. I switched to Superblast 1 after running in Speed 3 and realized how flat Speed 3 was. Have done 600km with my Superblast 1 and looking for new shoe. Superblast 2 will be my choice but can't find it anywhere

[@zanepritchard3600]

Speed for me

[@run-are]

@@zanepritchard3600 thanks for the comment

[@nobita21]

Do you wear the same shoe size between endorphin and zf6 ? Thanks

[@run-are]

@@nobita21 No I went US9 in Speed 4 and US 8.5 in ZF6... only because I find Saucony shoes a little narrow

[@nobita21]

@@run-arethanks Mate. 👍

[@nobita21]

@@run-are Thanks, what size are you in Vaporfly 3?

[@run-are]

@nobita21 Same as the ZF6..8.5us

[@nobita21]

@@run-are Thanks

[@brettfettbeargaming]

Brooks Hyperion Max 2 😜

[@MLHunt]

This is one of the higher stacked of the recent Nike releases. How is the cushioning from the ball of the foot forward to the toe? Nike seems to aggressively taper their shoes' stacks to get very thin at the toe, so much so in the Peg and the Vomero that I find them to be uncomfortable. Seems like the zf6 might be better cushioned in the toe but i haven't tried it on yet.

[@run-are]

@@MLHunt Definitely more cushioned in the toe than the Vomero and Peg. Both those have traditional geometry and do taper off so there is hardly any padding there. The big stack rockered shoes will have plenty of cush in that area with the ZF6 being one of them.

[@MLHunt]

@run-are thanks for the reply. A lot of people have been saying it's a good shoe, the best trainer Nike has shipped in years, so I've been interested. I'll have to go try it on.

[@run-are]

@MLHunt I agree, it's the best Nike training shoe they have has for ages

[@domingogarza6355]

I have a question, are they the same size?

[@run-are]

@@domingogarza6355 no ES4 is a US 9 and ZF6 is 8.5. The Speed is slightly longer, width is the same

[@karls8989]

the speed 4 is not what it use to be. the best speed was the speed 2 and they need to get back to that running on rails mentality

[@run-are]

@@karls8989 thanks for the comment!

[@runner.75]

Ya han sacado la Speed 5 y es un cambio radical

[@yalokim5264]

Good news. ZF6 sounds like a multipurpose tool, replacing the whole nike family: Pegasus Peg plus Invincible Vomero Now. I still use the original Speed¹ - a hard one to replace. V4 is not welcome, will v5 be??? In the mean time, ZF wiil do. ...and there is the Takumi Sen, best 4 the FAST fun.

[@run-are]

@@yalokim5264 It can certainly take the place of all those Nike's! Thanks for the comment

[@karls8989]

i felt the same way when i was deciding between the speed 4 and boston 12 and i sent the speed 4 back. the boston 12 was that much of a better shoe. i think the speed is hyped up online way too much now.

[@run-are]

@@karls8989 thanks for the comment

[@deks440]

Speed 4 all day. Zoom fly 6 quite over hyped imo. Probs cause zoom fly 5 was so poor

[@run-are]

@@deks440 thanks for the comment

[@dorins3787]

5 was a bad shoe. Zf 6 might be better.

[@run-are]

@dorins3787 5 was a brick! 6 is so much better

[@runner.75]

No son comparables. La speed no lleva placa de carbono y la Nike si