Good question. And I don’t really know. With SuperRack Performer you can run any vst3 plugins just like Live Professor. So the question is really if Dante is faster than SoundGrid i guess. And I think it comes down to what buffer size you set in the host. Would be interesting to test to be able to give you a better answer.

@@joevegna Yeah, the buffer size in Qrec seems high to me. it might be faster with a dante card in the desk and a PCIE dante card in a PC. THNX, i'm looking in to buying a Dlive in the not so distant future.

Not right now. But I hear people talk about a solution for that next year. Right now i think the Hear bridge is the best solution.

@@joevegna Thanks for the reply, if they can do dante as well, would be awesome!

Agree. And I think it’s coming. Ideally soon.

Yes it was an early V15 version. Not really any changes compared to V14. So I expect a lot more features in the public release of V15.

That’s awesome. Glad to help and thanks for saying that. Let me know if you want me to cover something specific in the future.

​@@joevegnadefinitely 😊😊😊

Exactly. Then you can move the volume of the auxes without changing the matrixes. Works great.

If you don’t need all 24 auxes for fx and monitor you can use an aux as a group. I use aux 14,15,16 as “groups” for drums, music, vocals including corresponding fx. Aux 14-16 are then sent to the master bus. That said. I would not mind more busses.

I use the Peli 1637 air for my consoles. Works very well.

@@joevegna ain’t that just for transport ? What do you recommend for the “stand”

Ah, got it. I use this one for mine: www.thomann.de/se/millenium_steel_box_4_45.htm

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@@joevegna thank you very much for the quick answer and for the tips!

Well the upside is that if you don’t like the specs you can still build your own system. Or ad on to this one. Even with the i5 server I think the price is right.

Absolutely. But at the time of this video the Classic did not exist. And if you need a smaller solution that fits into a Peli this is still a pretty nice setup. I have a "mk3" as well without servers for those who want all servers on the stage. But the Classic is the way to go for most from now on I think.

Thanks. Talk to you next week :)

@@joevegna ah great thanx looking forward to it… I’d love the vocal to sound as you have it on that video 🙏

Not sure. I guess it's just an extra screen and you can put whatever you want on it.

Absolutely. The console has Waves central installed so you can just transfer all your licenses to the console or simply have them on a usb stick and just plug in.

Not a bad idea. Something for the suggestion box.

brilliant, no need for the faders to be on the screen at all

Hi, thanks for the feedback. I’m aware and working on it. Hope to do better moving forward.

@@joevegna Hope i wasn't too rough :/ Sorry! And much love :)

@@TinelCH I appreciate all feedback (unless it's feedback from a microphone)

0.8 ms. So in practice none existing.

what are some of the popular plugins that would cause high latency?

@@revengernovember The Greg Wells stuff. Anything linear phase. Some of the Abbey Road stuff. A lot of the plugins have a "live" version though, with low latency. But have a look on Waves website, the latency is listed on each plugin page.

The feeling is similar to Dlive I would say. Same motors as in Avid S3/S6. Feels great.

I’m not surprised. It’s a great sounding system that is very flexible. I’ve been touring with this for almost 2 years and I couldn’t be happier.

Queensryche is on LV1 as well

@@CraigDouglasproducer Oh, cool.

Dirty Loops uses the LV1 system. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4bEnJamg7usaMk

It’s number one on the rider for me.

Glad to hear it. F6 is one of the most powerful tools in the toolbox in my opinion. Thanks for watching. 👊

@@joevegna I would have to agree, I just haven’t used it much because I didn’t learn how to use it. So thank you very much it’s going to be my go to for making room 🙏

For expansion you would have to add screens and possibly FIT controllers. You can add a bunch of io and servers just as with the old system. Latency is same as always: 0,8ms No info yet on a bigger console. But that would be a logical step. They have not released any info about bigger channel/buss counts. But as the system and user base grows I would imagine they add more of this in the future. Who knows.

This is above my pay grade 😅

Either on 8 e cores or 4 performance cores with hyperthreading on. Something that waves does not recommend. Now that I think of it, could also be 4 p and 4 e cores

​@@BartKrapmy thoughts is 4 performance and 4 efficiency and the other 4 efficiency are there for overhead maybe.

Yes, a stripped down version of Window. Similar to what Digico uses.

Ipone 14 pro 😅 No LUT, just messed around with colors in Capcut on my phone.

The price is very competitive. Avantis is still a more foolproof solution. It’s hard to mess things up. But for sound and power this is a nobrainer in my opinion.

@@joevegna Thanks for this part-2 video. Quick question - can this unit or even any of the Waves servers - use any and all the Waves plugin catalog? Or any limits? Obviously it comes with Tune Real-Time which immediately adds some value for a typical Church or even pub-location user. Is it an X32 "killer" - well, still priced above that budget level. Is it an SQ7 killer? Hmm. Avantis killer? Maybe the solo. I just think though that the church crowd will have a little tough time making it "volunteer friendly".

All LV1 can use basically every Waves plugin with some exceptions. However some plugins have too much latency so the might not be suitable for live. Lv1 might not be "volunteer friendly" since it's possible to mess things up. So for that reason SQ and Avantis is a good option. For everyone else I would say this is a nobrainer.

Hard to say on a fair trade show. My best guess it’s like 2 Ionic boxes worth of fan noise. Noticeable but not problematic.

They are uselessly small 😅

Yes it’s something at least. I would prefer bigger but it’s a step up from the FIT controller.

@@vilddyrmy workflow will be where I set gains with the onscreen meters and use the fader board meters to tell me that the channels are working. I’ll no longer be a slave to the mixer windows!!!

Agree!

@@jthunderbass1yeah, and still to small for that.

Yes I’m thinking the same. For those who start with nothing this is a great solution though.

Oh, I try to remember. I think (and I can be wrong) that they are stepped. They are very smooth, a lot mor so than the FIT, but with tiny steps.

Agree. Not the end of the world but yeah ... It's a super nice unit. A very solid build.

@@joevegna I think for now I’m going to stay put with my current LV1 set up. But this may be a better idea for maybe a dedicated touring rig when it comes to people like us that already have LV1. Thank you for all of your videos, bro.

Probably same for me. My rig is very close to this. And my screen folds :) But for anyone starting out with LV1 this should be very interesting.

Will there be a new standalone fit controller? I would buy that in a heartbeat if it's as fast and responsive like you showed.

⁠Short answer:No. But “there might be a future where the console faders are offered as a standalone product”. Probably not a near future. I would absolutely pay premium for this upgrade, the FIT is … well, you know.

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The step from a fit with touch screen is not huge. But nice with everything in one box. The server is a hair bigger than the extreme server. About 8k usd.

You can have the servers at foh, many do. But if the cat cable breaks everything gets quiet. If you have the servers on stage and the cat breaks you still have sound, but no control. I have a video called ”When everything break” where I go through this more in depth.

Right you are. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

I will give an update later on today. But a host and a server basically.

Yes the talk on the town turned out to be true. Good looking console.

Well … yeah 😅 I will not switch anytime soon. But if I started with nothing I would absolutely go with the Waves one. There are pros and cons to both mine and theirs.

$8000USD it looks like on Full Compass, BARGAIN! Way cheaper than expected

About 8k USD. I think thats an amazing price for this unit. It feels great.

Absolutely. Even though Cubase had nothing to do with this 😅

In Waves land I think this is considered the low budget option. Since the interface needs to speak Soundgrid it’s hard to build a cheaper box I think. So any ol’ usb interface will not work. To my knowledge this is the cheapest one.

With SMO we carry FOH and monitor consoles, EIMs and mics. So “PA of the day”. I get to mix on a lot of different black boxes 😅

Thanks. I'll be there tomorrow as well and will get some more info. It was just a super quick visit today.

That's very kind of you, appreciate it. And I agree :)

I just had a go with it. Will post a super short video in a few hours.

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Yeah, I just tried it. Not too shabby 😀 Will post a first quick look soon.

Yes, only Waves plugins. And I don’t see that changing anytime soon. I guess they want to stay in control and have a super stable system without other brands messing things up.

Absolutely, I'll look into that. Thanks for suggesting stuff to cover.

I can’t share multitrax for this song. But I’m working on a solution for the future. So stay tuned.

Hi, Good question. Short answer: Yes, musicians will hear all of this in IEMs. But … it will depend on the level of cancellation in their IEMs and the noise level on stage. But over all I would say that all nuances are heard better on IEMs than the audience will hear through the speakers. Room acoustics tend to smear the finer details. I will do a IEM video soon. Just waiting for a few things 😎