Ken Plays Catan

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@jessedong2148 Ай бұрын

never played catan before, but v entertaining watch. good storytelling 😁

@princea5886 Ай бұрын

In high level Catan, "pity tokens" and the like are not necessary because people will naturally balance the table. For example, feeding road or army to the person with weak production in order to stop the strongest player from winning quickly

@princea5886 Ай бұрын

9 out of 10 times, the whiny "unlucky" player just didn't play well. Same as poker and other games of skill plus luck. The good players understand variance enough to not whine when it's their turn to get unlucky, and the bad ones can't figure out why they lose, so they decide they are unlucky.

@marius4iasi 2 ай бұрын

Ngl, this is lame AF, arguing over every trade,takes the fun out of it. If i ever play this guy, i'm gonna be bored to death.

@KAJYT6969 2 ай бұрын

Professional yapper

@nicholasherrera3055 2 ай бұрын

for selling a port you need extra cards for doing the trade no?, like for example if ypu dont have the material they want, you cant simply accept them for free or do you?

@nicholasherrera3055 2 ай бұрын

How I started doing this was I would give them a single random card in trade for three cards (two of them being port cards, and one of them being a free card for me), then I'd trade with the bank for whatever resource they wanted, then I'd trade that resource to them in exchange for the original random card I'd given them to start the transaction. This basically creates a free resource for me, and also helps anyone with a resource surplus they want to turn into something else.

@nicholasherrera3055 2 ай бұрын

or smth like that

@ДмитрийВойцеховский-ш4и 2 ай бұрын

You may not give away cards. I believe its a bit tricky

@Cpt.. 2 ай бұрын

I played yesterday and had 6 wood and 6 stone and 6 didn't roll a single time all game

@kellyalvarado6533 4 ай бұрын

He's the most annoying player.

@bushibayushi 4 ай бұрын

Catan is not a perfect knowledge game - you don't know what development cards people have.

@dongameleone2489 5 ай бұрын

so what did the 97% players of catan chose and why is it wrong?

@adamstewart247 6 ай бұрын

There's also a Catan Dice app for Android that does the same thing as the event cards in perfect bell curve dice distribution. It's possible to do the event cards with just using the dice rolls

@trevoraustin1062 7 ай бұрын

That was good, I bet you a like comment subscribe that you got 3 decks of cards🤣 brilliant. It’s refreshing and clever, most KZbins 3 seconds into the video say like and subscribe without us watching the video or understanding the quality of the content.

@valentinaespinoza1605 7 ай бұрын

Where I can watch the recordings of the games like this? 😮

@Sturak 7 ай бұрын

Have you tested it? It would be nice to see a runthrough and some comments

@ElektrikMuffins 8 ай бұрын

Looks so tense and uncomfortable

@latvian_fallen_angel 8 ай бұрын

I yesterday play with my friends and 12 rolled 3 times in the row. In all the game 12 rolled like 6 times but number 5 rolled only 1 time in all the game. :)

@OvidiuAlex28-vb5hq 9 ай бұрын

the first 5 seconds i saw bo perform, i knew he was the man

@PhotonBread 9 ай бұрын

I’ve heard a ton about Catan, seen it at all of the LGS’s around me, but never seen it played. This game is captivating. I’m completely enthralled with the social aspect

@krozimotskikamionizure6332 10 ай бұрын

As a professional poker player and a casual Settlers of Catan player with an ELO of 1300, I can tell you that mathematics doesn't really have much to do with poker; it's an enduring misconception for beginners. Poker is about understanding your opponent's behavior and playing your hand accordingly. If you ever see two cards of the same suit on the flop and two more of the same suit come out, or you're missing one card for a flush, you know you're in a 50/50 situation. Similarly, if you lack one card for a straight, you're aware that you're not in a favorable position and need to play the hand differently. That's simple mathematics. Mathematical insights in poker mainly assist those who analyze statistical data to determine the long-term viability of certain playing styles, and so on..

@KenPlaysCatan 10 ай бұрын

Really nice to hear these kinds of insights. Thank you.

@namv6431 Ай бұрын

I am not a pro poker player, but I would consider myself above the average person. Reading others is definitely more important than being good at calculating odds. Especially short term. However, a better player can always lose to someone with better luck. However, long term, playing hands with higher probability of winning, will eventually be favorable. Catan is not a long term game. With my limited experience of catan, understanding the probability of craps is much closer. Seven out, is the robber. You can go on a long roll with never hitting a 7, but eventually, every roll in craps will eventually end because seven will inevitably be rolled. Dice (or roulette) always comes down to sample size.

@johnfields7469 10 ай бұрын

Is this pulled directly from mistergnome's reddit comment?

@KenPlaysCatan 10 ай бұрын

yes

@Puddleford 10 ай бұрын

@NoahMercy11 11 ай бұрын

Its great and all to be "so good". But he seems like he would be so aggravating to play with. At the end of the day, its a game and it should be fun for everyone playing. Seems like he is just pissing people off with the way he has input on what everyone else is doing.

@Natorious_Gaming 11 ай бұрын

All of these ideas are horrible. I get that there is variance in Catan but part of the skill and strategy of the game is understanding probability/statistics/variance and playing accordingly. The other thing people forget about Catan is trading. If you dont roll a resource you can trade for it, port for it, or rob it. Sometimes the dice will require you to pivot from your pre-planned strategy and let the dice/resources guide the game. Catan is clearly a game of skill just like Poker. A beginner can beat a pro in Poker if they get a great hand, but the pro is going to win 9/10 times. A pro Catan player will probably beat a beginner 7 or 8 times out of 10. Catan is a game of skill not variance and the variance is part of the game and people need to understand you have to manage the variance not try to remove it

@Stuffthatsfunny1 11 ай бұрын

The app is definitely fixed in a way though. If someone puts the robber on a number it will roll within 3 especially if it hasn't rolled yet

@DACProduction Жыл бұрын

Hey Ken, what happened to the videos you had before you were doing Catan? I would like to rewatch some of them and check the website as well.

@eliasjohnson1686 Жыл бұрын

This is a wonderful video, I love all the rules and changes to the game. I'd like to see a realistic version for Seafarers and Cities & Knights, that would be really cool to see the PVP with those.

@KenPlaysCatan 11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jeremiah4267 Жыл бұрын

dude i love the randomness. Ive been playing with risk pieces and treating settlements and cities like territories in risk and you can take other players cities XD.

@veniode1814 Жыл бұрын

Fix your description man It's got a typo but more importantly it is sort of self-depricating

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure what you were referring to so I changed a bunch of random things lmao. Thanks homie.

@windowsNwaves Жыл бұрын

what is this calling mono business

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

Mono = Monopoly which is a card you can play to claim all of a particular resource from other players hands.

@bradyresch7965 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

Bo flips a table

@bopeng3402 Жыл бұрын

Nice video, very well edited. This is Bo here, I have a few things to add that might help the viewer better understand the context 1. Thiago (White color) wasn't a native English speaker, so there was definitely a communication barrier. That's why I had to repeat phrases many times and physically point things out such as the resources to trade. 2. All of the players were very strong and definitely knew each player's position at any given moment, so everyone knew others were effectively at 9 at the end. 3. One part that didn't make the video was when I quoted "Mono defense" on my final turn, to make sure Eric couldn't win with a mono on his turn, but we couldn't execute it on Kristian's turn. It was a 3.5 hour game, so we were all incredibly exhausted. 4. Thiago had a chance to win when he pulled a development card but missed. He also could have won with a 2 roll on his turn, that would have been epic. He played a really great under the radar game. 5. Eric calling bathroom break was genius, he did this at the US Nationals 2022 as well. Game changing meta, I will do that at my next tournament. Eric and are I both from New York, so it was great to compete against him, and help each other get a chance to win. I shook his hand after, but might not have been captured on the video. 6. A lot of respect to Kristian, he played extremely well and a super great person to connect with. 7. I called the judge to get a clarification on a new vague rule change for this tournament. The rule was "If a player attempts to negotiate a trade before completing the robber action, the robber will be placed in the desert and the player receives no cards as in rule 3.0.14(b)." However, as I learned, the rule does allow you to negotiate about trading "non-blocks", just not resources. Anyways, hope these comments are helpful. Keep up on making these videos, I enjoy watching them!

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

All great points! I want to add so that's it's more visible. This is an overly dramatic take on the game and so there is forced conflict to make it more interesting. In reality, all these players have great respect for each other and all are very skilled or else they wouldn't be there. And Bo, I'm glad you saw this video so quickly because I forgot to include a thank you in the video. I very much enjoy watching you play and I think you make game way more entertaining. These videos wouldn't exist without the level of excitement you bring to the table. Finally, I think you do Catan coaching or something right? You should totally plug your website or whatever.

@johnmcdermott5922 Жыл бұрын

I think the bathroom break is bit of unnecessary gamesmanship that bends the realm of fairness a bit too far. For example, after buying 2 devs am I within my rights to fall out of my chair and "injure" myself in order to take attention away from the table. It is something that is considered HORRIBLE sportsmanship elsewhere, but maybe catan is just anything goes? LMK your thoughts as I am curious and not judging anyone personally.

@bopeng3402 Жыл бұрын

@@johnmcdermott5922 If you actually have to pee, it's better to take a bathroom break for everyone than hold it in.

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

@@johnmcdermott5922 It was a 3.5 hour game, it was reasonable to have a break, it was just a very strategic break. It's definitely a gray area in terms of sportmanship in general but when the game heavily relies on social manipulation, then it feels somewhat appropriate.

@hugomorgan1997 Жыл бұрын

@@KenPlaysCatan I think you do a disservice to yourself and the catan community with this statement. It is conflict but a conflict of minds and how to influence each other through strategy and social consciousness. The rivalry is there and in real time and real, but that doesn't mean the people behind how they play the game dislike/hate each other which I think/ i hope is what you mean. Everyone here is for the love of the game and that game is a battle of minds and wits. One of the great things about Catan is it is all about the mind games and the strategy, but never actually personal. It is what has made it such an enjoyable game between my friends and when playing online and to state otherwise discount part of what makes the game great. This is the first video of yours that I have seen, have liked and subscribed as it was brilliant and well explained. You don't need to dramatise things and the drama is already there and you explained and brought it all together brilliantly.

@kenny_dsilva Жыл бұрын

Bo flips the table

@danielyeetman Жыл бұрын

I knew I had watched this before a long time ago, but since it showed up on my recommended again it was worth it to watch again

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. I am working on a new one from a different championship game. It'll be out soon in a few days, would love to hear what you think!

@twjohnsun Жыл бұрын

Reorganizing the channel again?

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

Possibly. Had to do some soul searching. Nice to hear from you though Tanner!

@twjohnsun Жыл бұрын

@@KenPlaysCatan well I'm along for the ride, even if it's full of deja vu 😉

@KenPlaysCatan Жыл бұрын

@@twjohnsun Appreciate it friend. This time it's going to be more like deja wooooooo!!!

@usererror2572 Жыл бұрын

So happy that Bo won and Mari lost. She was so annoying, acting like she was not a threat and antagonizing Bo. Hope she never wins a championship.

@eugenecunningham1187 Жыл бұрын

You only need 3 brick and 3 wood for longest road. You already start with 2 segments.

@eugenecunningham1187 Жыл бұрын

If he goes last, that gives him 4 rolls. The most resources produced from 4 rolls is 24 resources amongst all players. That's 36 resources between 4 players. He trades 3 away (using combo trades to make it legal if needed) which leaves him with 33 res. 15 for 5 vps 6 for 3 roads- 2 vps 5 for 1 city- 2vp Last vp from starting settlement. All he would need is 26 res.

@theDougShrader Жыл бұрын

I just found your channel and this video. Well done my man! I love the way you made it seem like Bo was playing a video game striking monsters to bring down their HP. Fantastic job on editing and commentary. I’m very much looking forward to your future Catan videos 🙌👏👍🏻

@greenatom Жыл бұрын

Learning to deal with unfairness is an essential life-skill. Tired of not having your numbers rolled? Make sure you select a decent spread of numbers to start off with! You'll never learn to do this if someone gives you (yuck) pity tokens.

@lordad 2 ай бұрын

Thats not how it works ;) RNG means that despite having a decent spread of numbers you dont get your rolls and its not your fault and there is nothing you can do. The best Catan players in the world have ~ 38% winrate.... 100% rng would be 25% winrate for everybody. While Catan also involves a good amount of skills even the top 10 players in the world have less than 50% winning chance against 3 other players who watched maybe 3-4 youtube videos and have played 20 games in their live. that says a lot