Interesting video. I don't own a rifle but find this informative.

Great photo.

But you have not mentioned that .33 mil or 1/3 of a mil is 11.8 inches at 1000 yards. Must of the targets are 12,10, 7, 6, 5 or even 4 inches. You will miss the shoot for sure. SD matter at long range targets

I completely agree with the premise of this video. One thing that should be considered with a 50 FPS extreme spread is the point of impact shift due to barrel harmonics if the load is not in a good node. if you have a minute of point of impact shift from velocity and then a minute for impact shift from harmonics or whatever else is causing it, that’s 20” at thousand yards Plus the point of impact shift that could occur just from weird lighting throughout the day, bright sunny conditions, cloudy conditions, etc. that could all stack up to be over 20 inches at 1000 yards. That all being said I’m not happy unless I get ES of around 15fps. because we shoot varmints at extended ranges, usually beyond 800 and even 1000 yards. But fundamentals is by far the most important thing.

How do you get away with no lubing inside the case mouths? I cannot if I don’t it’s extremely obvious I didn’t lol

Can I have some of those federal primers?? Can’t find them

Are you eating the prairie dogs

I guess the thing that's hard for me to wrap my head around is you can seat the bullet 80 thou deeper (.08) and it'll work, but if you lower your shoulder bump .08, that could create ridiculous pressures.

There may be a flaw in your data. When you change the muzzle velocity in the Kestrel, I am guessing it retains the 100yard zero. So that means when you drop the velocity, the Kestrel automatically adjusts the trajectory up a small amount to get the zero back on at 100 yards, thus affecting the whole trajectory. The further out you go, the greater the effect. This is what my ballistics app does. If the Kestrel also does this, then your data is wrong - not sure by how much, but it is wrong.

Skiligear.

One problem in your logic, you’re only applying vertical dispersion due to velocity deviation. You left out the vertical deviation from natural variance in the rifle’s inherent precision. For example, that 10” of velocity variation combined with the 10” groups the rifle shoots at 1,000 could easily mean there is 20” of vertical between any two given rounds. Not make or break, but a consideration.

That’s so cool I’m new to reloading about a month into it I just learned something new awesome videos

6:38 how many hunters are running around with bolt action 11 lb rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor? It’s only for NRL hunter….

Tall Target Test Worksheet The intent of this worksheet is to assist in calculating a scope correction factor (CF) based on shooting the tall target test at 100 yards. The point is to see if your scope is really giving you what you’re dialing for adjustment. If not, the correction factor is applied to raw ballistic calculations to make up for the error in scope adjustment. Procedure: 1) Set up a tall target at 100 yards with a vertical line (confirmed with plumb bob or level). 2) Place an aim point near the bottom of the vertical line and shoot a group to confirm zero. 3) Dial up (or hold) at least 30 MOA (or 10 MILS) of elevation and shoot another group. 4) Measure the distance between shot groups with a tape measure. 5) Use the formula below to calculate your scopes Correction Factor (CF). 6) Apply the Correction Factor to any raw ballistic solution to account for scope tracking error. Calculate Correction Factor Based on Range and POI Shift According to the following formula Range Units Adjustment Units Yards MOA Yards MILS Meters MOA Meters MILS Constant 0.01047 0.03599 0.01145 0.03936 Example: First step is to select a constant based on measurement units: Expected POI Shift = Dialed x Range x Constant Correction Factor (CF) = Expected POI Shift ÷ Actual POI Shift Suppose the range to target is 102 yards. You dial 30 MOA and get a POI shift of 29.8 inches. The formula will apply as follows: 1) Since you’re dealing with yards and MOA, select the Constant of 0.01047. 2) Next, calculate Expected POI Shift: Expected POI Shift = Dialed x Range x Constant Expected POI Shift = 30 MOA x 102 yards x 0.01047 = 32.04 inches. 3) Finally, calculate Correction Factor: CF = Expected POI Shift ÷ Actual POI Shift CF = 32.04 Inches ÷ 29.8 Inches CF = 1.075 4) Apply this correction factor to any raw ballistic prediction. So if the ballistics program calls for 30 MOA elevation for some shot, you should dial: © 2021 Applied Ballistics, “All rights reserved. This document contains proprietary information. Do not distribute without the prior written consent of the copyright owner.” 30 MOA x 1.075 = 32.25 MOA to actually get 30 MOA The procedure is the same for any combination of units and range, just plug in your numbers and apply

For the ladies shot I would think that if the muzzle jumps that much of target sideways, the shooter is not square and properly connected to the stock of the rifle.

16:02. Such a Duh moment. Thanks for talking the hit so we dont have too. You a real one

Well said, public service announcement that should be predominate in the media...notice the total lack thereof and ask why...

Didn’t line up perfectly at all especially at 20 mils. His will make you miss at 1000 yards if you don’t correct for the offset

Have you had a chance to try the Fehu Tilpasse?

Well said. Great video. Truly looking forward to getting into NRL hunter.

That Zebra head in the shape of Africa is awesome!

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This video deserves way more upvotes! Truely interesting!

Was all this done at 100m

Staball 6.5 gives insane single digit es numbers

Thank you for showing this to us. It is definitely a thing to look out for. I wasted 100 rounds today at the range because of this reason. I don’t have a scope level and my shots at 600 yards kept on shooting high and to the right and it wasn’t the wind. I ordered a bubble level to for my scope now. At 100 to 300 yards I been hitting dead on and didn’t really notice until getting out to 600 yards. Is being canted at closer distance negligible ?

Mike and Kili, as I mentioned in the last video, it was awesome having you guys out here. Watching this video and seeing how Mike tackled the stages is a great way to see and learn different techniques of approaching the same course of fire that I participated in. I'm built for lighter calibers, not that .458 Lott 😂😂 I see my first name changed to ALLLLL, but happy to keep my surname as recoil. 👍🏻👍🏻 Hope to see you guys out here again, as well as more of the US guys and girls. 👍🏻👍🏻😁

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Who makes that chest rig you are using?

Enjoyed it!

*Long Range With The Lillys* Bravo well done, thank-you for taking the time to bring us along. GOD Bless.

Good video, thanks for sharing n' God bless

I really enjoyed that video, thank you!

At 1000 yards your target should be ten inches. So 10.3 difference caused by a high extreme spread will cause you to be WAY off.

I know this video is from 2 months ago, but what is wrong with working to be proficient at multiple disciplines? Gatekeepers are exactly why the majority of people don't pursue or take a chance to jump into things that they might love. Be welcoming, offer all the advice you can, and don't be pompous! Enjoy the fact that the sport has grown as big as it is and be stoked and proud about all the new faces getting into the sport of precision rifle shooting, or any shooting sport for that matter.

Do your research folks! 🤦🏻‍♂️

I know this is two years old but thanks for posting. I’m heading to this match in two weeks. I’m sure they will have similar stages. Thanks

The stages at Arena look more like a PRS match.

Good video...Arena was fun...see you next month!

Great video 👍🏻 👍🏻 Would have helped me a bit though if you had posted it before you joined us here in South Africa.😂 Doubted my zero and cost me some serious points on the first three stages. 🤦🏻🤦🏻 Don't fix want ain't broke. 🤷😂😂 Was awesome having you guys out here and an absolute pleasure squadding with you and Kili. Hope to see you guys again soon. George

Appreciate the information. Learn through others. I'm competing in mammoth next week for my first long range competition. I'm not using any fancy things like the impact 4000, just range finding binos and a dope chart. We'll see how it goes.

Hey mike you like running the impact 4000? I am using one this year as well and i have been really liking it. (Edit) watched the whole video and got my answer lol. It was definitely a learning curve remembering to dial to 0 after every shot. PS miss you guys in the NW.

Man watching this really makes me miss shooting at arena often

I was using the dope of my 308 on my 6.5CM last match, also my first match ever so nerves got the better of me.

You have a Long Range shooting KZbin channel, you need to know you are going to be held to a higher standard than what you hold yourself up to.

Take the good with the bad, thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the video Mike. Is the Impact 4000 vibration induced shift the diving board mount moving, the scope moving, or zero shift of the laser itself in your opinion? What shift is the JB Weld mitigating?

What about the stages you got thrown out?

I’m looking to get into LR shooting and info like this is very useful to me thank you

I appreciate the knowledge share Mike. Thank you.