I guess it's possible that water could get in from the side with crazy horizontal downpours or splashes, but I doubt it. It's a pretty tight fit with zero open space when it's buttoned down. Indeed, the flap pushes down on the pack pretty hard. As for the price, all that taping, sealing, and RF welding costs money. There's a reason only Arc'teryx does it. Granville 25L costs $220, but the Nomin cost $650, and this is a better pack than the Granville. Plus there's the new custom material EG had made for the pack. I've had the EG back-digging issue forever and could never handle any of their packs. On this, the back-digging doesn't exist. Not sure I'll keep it, but it's really interesting. My main concern is that I wish it were just a few liters bigger and the straps were a little wider on the sides for heavy loads. Everything else is nice, and this is coming from someone who has dry bags and rolltops with welded main compartments. The design looks pretty cool, too, and that quick-access area will give you more truly waterproof org than any other similar pack I know of. Not perfect but pretty interesting. Pretty sure if EG could've shaved $100 off the price and still maintain a decent margin, they would've. Just too many labor-intensive construction techniques and materials with this pack IMHO. I'm sure they would've loved to sell this pack for $200.
@mattwypijewski4192Сағат бұрын
Yeah, the 18l DC Bullet is fantastic. Easier to organize and great layout.
@houserhythm5 сағат бұрын
I wanted to get this one, but wasn't smitten with the design (I like it, but don't love it) and it's a bit feature poor for my taste and for the money. I know its main thing is the water resistance, but I'm never out in the rain for hours, unless I have an umbrella; and under an umbrella any good bag will stay dry. And I'm glad I held out, cause I got myself one of them sexy waxed canvas CPL24's instead.
@Pack_roam5 сағат бұрын
@@houserhythm I saw it and figured the only way I’d know for sure was to get my hands on it. Those waxed canvas CPL’s are damn fine looking bags.
@UnPackD6 сағат бұрын
Dude appreciate the video, this answered a crap ton of questions I had about this bag. Lots of neat features even down to the implementation of the “patch” square.
@Pack_roam6 сағат бұрын
Awesome! Glad it was helpful. I need more time for a final verdict on this bag, but it’s pretty interesting. Haven’t seen a whole lot of feedback on it anywhere.
@seawolf_7279 сағат бұрын
Man, GORUCK ruined me with the whole 'stand up on its own' feature and ever since I was introduced to that with my first GR0, I can't go back. There's been so many bags I've really liked but the tip over aspect is just a turn off to me now. Personal preference I know but it can be a real dealbreaker. This pack has an Arc'teryx Granville vibe to me. Slick looking but just doesn't quite hit the mark. Great review!
@Pack_roam8 сағат бұрын
Thanks! Although not a deal breaker for me, I am starting to lean more towards preferring bags that stand. I’ll tell ya, it makes reviews a lot easier! I definitely see the Granville vibe. I’m still on the fence on the look. I can say, I did get some compliments when I brought it to work yesterday, but at this point, everyone’s looking to see what I’m carrying since I show up with different bags all the time 😂
@seawolf_7278 сағат бұрын
@ Ahhhh the joys of being gear junkies, right? 😂
@houserhythm5 сағат бұрын
Goruck isn't the only company that makes self-standing bags. And also not all Gorucks self-stand. When empty I mean, cause if you put a brick at the bottom, almost any bag will stand.
@seawolf_7274 сағат бұрын
@@houserhythmYou are correct that not all GORUCK bags stand on their own but arguably their most popular line of GR1's do...without a brick needed. lol What I'm saying is that those were the first bags I bought that introduced me to the flat bottom, with the exception of the 5.11 Rush series.
@PotatoSpudRucking9 сағат бұрын
the huge top opening is an issue… the flap might protect against water from above but im 100% sure the inside will get wet if a car splashes you driving by…. in windy rainy days, the water will find a way in too…
@Pack_roam9 сағат бұрын
That’s where my head is at. It folds over itself, but I’m not sure it’ll keep wind blown rain out. I want to prove it out before making any assumptions though. I’ve been thinking of ways to simulate it, like a hose and a fan, but it’s been like 15degF in Chicago. Maybe hang it up in the shower. Or I’ll be in Texas in January, maybe down there.
@PotatoSpudRucking9 сағат бұрын
@Pack_roam huge props to evergoods for all the innovations but i think the design weakness undermines everything...
@rockyhikes308010 сағат бұрын
Another great video man! Cool concept, just hard to swallow the price. Gorucks up there too but they have sales now and again to where you can hold out for a real. Not so much with evergoods.
@Pack_roam9 сағат бұрын
@@rockyhikes3080 Thanks! Yeah, not a cheap bag plus it’s brand new, so it’s an unknown quantity.
@clivezilla05Күн бұрын
Can it fit a nintendo switch or steam deck?
@KevinChen-hb7xrКүн бұрын
I find the straps too thin. When I carry too many items, my shoulders start to hurt. It needs a pressure relief shoulder pads.
@jjm232a2 күн бұрын
Hello Pack & Roam when will you release your review of the Evergoods Element Watershed 22L?
@Pack_roam2 күн бұрын
@@jjm232a I’m targeting a release by this weekend, ideally.
@jjm232a2 күн бұрын
@ great news! I’m looking to it forward! I can’t seem to find any reviews of the bag anywhere online
@marrngtn2 күн бұрын
Is there a link or model/style for the Carhart? Really want to try them.
@Pack_roam2 күн бұрын
The t-shirts? They’re Carhartt Force t-shirts. Style #106652 at carhartt.com.
@harunomiya5 күн бұрын
I 3rd WR Evolution pants 👍
@UnPackD5 күн бұрын
I 2nd the WR Evolution pants!!!
@Inkushu5 күн бұрын
Built, not made in USA. They use imported materials and may not even fully assemble them stateside.
@kaymatthew68126 күн бұрын
That 18L Goruck is sold out... just FYI
@Pack_roam6 күн бұрын
I thought it was still available, but I see the dyneema version is the only one left. Kind of pricey that one.
@harunomiya6 күн бұрын
This is definitely an outdoor light, something to have in an EDC bag. I'd add a peice of orange hi-vis tape in order to find easily when dropped.
@Pack_roam6 күн бұрын
Great idea! Definitely would help spot it.
@vanquestgear7 күн бұрын
Great video Kevin, we're glad you liked the DENDRITE and appreciate the honest feedback; wishing you a happy Thanksgiving and holiday season! - Justin @ Vanquest
@Pack_roam7 күн бұрын
Thanks, Justin! Happy Thanksgiving!
@seawolf_7277 күн бұрын
Great video, dude. First off, just want to thank you for pointing out that you were going to only highlight cool gear you can actually buy - especially since it's a holiday gear guide. Can't tell you how many videos I've seen where I like the item that's being showcased only to find out it's unavailable. Secondly, that GORUCK 18L dual compartment bullet is one of the sweetest bags they've made. Took all the best parts of a bullet and GR2 and our them together. My ONLY gripe is that the shoulder straps are wayyyy too skinny and they lost the beefiness that the original bullet straps had. It's more comfortable for me as a woman too if that makes sense. I have an OG two compartment bullet that I've been rocking for years. The thick padded straps are one of the best parts of their bags. Regardless, it's a badass bag that punches well above. Happy Thanksgiving!
@Pack_roam7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated. Are the OG two compartment bullet straps the same width as the GR1 straps? I’d love to have those on the current iteration of the 18L DCBR! That’s a huge part of why I like the GR1 and GR2 so much, and the GR3 straps are next level. They carry so well because of those straps. Happy Thanksgiving!
@seawolf_7277 күн бұрын
@ You're welcome! Big fan of the channel. FYI, my wife really enjoyed watching your GR3 loadout video with me. We both appreciated how thorough you were with your explanation and packing. I'd have to measure them and compare it to my GR1 BUT they are much thicker than the current iteration of the 18L. Like you said, it's one of the best aspects of the GR1 for sure. I've never seen a GR3 in person but I imagine the straps are awesome. Cheers!
@Pack_roam6 күн бұрын
Very cool! Love to hear it! You just made my day. Thanks for watching!
@houserhythm7 күн бұрын
It is sooo weird - I have the same CAP1 in burnt orange, CAP2 in blue ecopak and CAP0.5 in black/coyote xpac (alongside burnt orange and OD green). I also love the CTB26 for travel, but it's a toss-up with the Dragonfly 36L for me (that's actually 26L too, 10L are split between the external mesh pockets). I also dig my DC 18L Bullet for EDC. But why does your Robic have aqua-guard zippers? Mine is the black Robic too, but has (sadly) regular zippers...
@Pack_roam7 күн бұрын
Lol… we have good taste. I’ve been testing the 30L Ultra Dragonfly for about 3 weeks now, going to review it soon. What do you like about your 36L that makes it a toss-up vs the CTB26? The original ROBIC DCBR’s didn’t have the Aquaguard zippers, I got the updated version. Second version/release of that bag I guess.
@houserhythm7 күн бұрын
@@Pack_roam I like that the Dragonfly is so light, no matter the material you get it in. I went for EPX600, cause it's less crinkly than ultra (have the 30L in ultra though). And I like that you get all the volume in the main compartment, with minimal (but just enough for me) organisation; sometimes I want to pack more clothes and/or camera gear - more often than not I travel with a 600mm lens, but then maybe I also wanna do some astro, or macro, take a tripod etc. Didn't know they updated the Bullet. And I'm surprised that Goruck would put aqua-guard zippers on regular lineup bag.
@harunomiya6 күн бұрын
Awesome choices to look into. It's great that it's based on what you personally use. I love my Western Rise Evolution pants.
@Pack_roam6 күн бұрын
@@harunomiya Thanks! The Western Rise pants are awesome, I’m going to have to give their other pants a shot.
@Pack_roam6 күн бұрын
@@houserhythm I have been enjoying the 30L Dragonfly. Was thinking I may need to order the 36L too. The fact that it’s so light is what really stands out to me, significantly lighter than the CTB26,, and I do like the ultrastretch pockets for front and sides.
@AL-tf9rq9 күн бұрын
So with the weird laptop compartment part of the bag. Do you think it’s designed for plate armor rather than a laptop?
@Pack_roam6 күн бұрын
Good question. Could be. I believe it’s advertised as a laptop compartment, but maybe dual purpose.
@visualflorida10 күн бұрын
Thanks for this really helpful review. Just subscribed. I’m a photographer and I own several ALPAKA products. Just ordered the v2.
@Pack_roam10 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching! ALPAKA makes great gear. The V2 is a big improvement over the original in my opinion.
@Michaelhawaii5010 күн бұрын
Great review!! I'm looking for a new sling for travel and I think either one will work. I'm more of a minimalist, so the Tekko 4 would probably be the one. I really wanted the Packolab sling, but with the problems in the Ukraine where it's made, plus the long wait, even to order is making me think that I should think about another bag. Thanks again for the in depth review.
@Pack_roam10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! The TEKKO is a great sling. Packolab sling is amazing, but hard to get ahold of and pricey.
@JC-wj3hx10 күн бұрын
The Helikontex Ratel pack probably does it better from 25L expandable to 33L. Good enough... But 511 is a solid pack.
@Pack_roam10 күн бұрын
I’m not familiar with that one, I’ll have to check it out!
@JC-wj3hx5 күн бұрын
@@Pack_roam Its cool! But i do want to try a 5.11 pack.. but torn between the Rush 12 vs 24. haha! I heard its really durable and probably more than Helikontex.. i had a Direct Action MK2 Dragon Egg.. its cool! but its not that spacious.. just fyi.
@houserhythm15 күн бұрын
I was the one who commented on one of your older videos that you looked more at the notes than the camera, so first of all let me say you've gotten much better with that. Secondly because you complained about the toothpaste tube being large - Matador makes great small refillable toothpaste tubes. I was so glad when Evergoods came out with the CAP 0.5, it has become both my tech pouch and my toiletry bag (I like being super minimal/lightweight). Used to pack the same Philips toothbrush, one of those Matador toothpaste tubes, small Gotoob with shower gel, crystal deodorant, disposable Bic razor, nail clippers and a pair of foam ear plugs. But I got more and more annoyed with taking out my liquids at security, so I switched to all solids - replaced toothpaste with tablets and Gotoob with a small round shampoo bar from Lush that I use as body wash (I'm bald). And that all fits comfortably in a CAP 0.5. For tech I have the same Anker 67W wall charger, 2 USB-C to C cables, a Nitecore NB10000 power bank, some no name 1000mAh power bank with Apple Watch cradle, that is actually slimmer/smaller than the original cable + puck, and an Apple Magic Mouse, which again all fits in another CAP 0.5. Also why not wear your boots on the flight and pack a smaller/more compact pair of shoes in the bag? Those boots are huge. Doing that and maybe using some compression packing cubes would allow you more choice and variation in bags, so it doesn't get boring...
@Pack_roam14 күн бұрын
@@houserhythm Well thanks for the updated feedback! And thanks for the tip on the Matador tubes. I’ve got a CAP 0.5 and thought the same thing, that it would make a perfect dopp. Sounds like you’ve got a great super minimal setup, combining tech and toiletries. That’s a great idea, and I’ve definitely considered wearing my boots instead of packing them. I actually bought the boots in this video, the Brunt Marin, because they’re composite toe, so I could probably wear them through the metal detectors in the TSA pre-check lines and not have to take them off. The reality though, is that my boots get FILTHY in the factories I work in. The boots in the video are pretty new, but I work with some chemicals and materials that get on my boots and make it less than ideal to wear them in public. Grease, oil, asphalt, adhesives, fiberglass, etc. Some of these chemicals have a very unpleasant odor as well, which would probably make me very unpopular with fellow travelers. Thanks for watching, and all the tips!
@houserhythm15 күн бұрын
I love this bag so much, I have 3 of it - regular 420D coyote, just like yours, a black X-pac one and a tan Griffin 2 waxed canvas. Also have both black and the new OD green CTB20.
@Pack_roam14 күн бұрын
@@houserhythm Such a great bag. I’ve got the Griffin as well, and I’ve been strongly considering the 20L and the 35L.
@felipe1prestes16 күн бұрын
I was looking for a sling that would fit an insta360 + stick. Thank you a lot❤
@Pack_roam15 күн бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching!
@Seanonyoutube16 күн бұрын
Lol only goruck would have the nerve to sell a $415 pack and not include a sternum strap
@Pack_roam16 күн бұрын
Yeah, ridiculous.
@josht418317 күн бұрын
Sub! Such a detailed comparison 👍
@Pack_roam17 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thanks!🙏🏻
@dennnka118 күн бұрын
did you get strap with sling or from somewhere else?
@Pack_roam18 күн бұрын
@@dennnka1 with the sling
@maviroy19 күн бұрын
I acquired a GR-1 26L based on your recommendation. I was looking at the M23. I saw your video on that subject too. AND YOU’RE SO RIGHT, Clamshell vs top loader! Glad I went with GR1. Keep up the good work! Thank you👏👏👏
@Pack_roam19 күн бұрын
Awesome! Love to hear that and glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻
@ryansgr819 күн бұрын
I would love to have one but hard to justify multiple CTB26 bags.
@Pack_roam19 күн бұрын
That is true. Eventually I’ll sell one of mine. Most likely keep the Griffin, sell the standard.
@jordanroywhite21 күн бұрын
This is an amazing review!!! Thank you. And like others said, this is way more comprehensive than what Wandrd has. I hope you are getting commission!
@Pack_roam20 күн бұрын
Thanks! And no, lol, no commission. I don’t have any relationship with wandrd.
@jordanroywhite20 күн бұрын
You should get an affiliate link from them! Seriously, this review was incredible. I’d bet you’ve sold many bags for them through this video
@bangurowned21 күн бұрын
I’ll Venmo you 5 dollars to junk that gross ass ACU hat lol
@Pack_roam20 күн бұрын
Make it 50 and you’ll never see that hat in a video again 😂 🤣 That’s my prop hat, my actual work hat tends to be filthy and actually gross.
@bangurowned20 күн бұрын
@@Pack_roamhaha no worries. I just hated that fuckin camo when it was in service.
@DaemonViews22 күн бұрын
Check out arcade belts. Like these for traveling. No metal and slim and stretchy so they don't bother you.
@Pack_roam21 күн бұрын
Nice. I think I’m going to give their Atlas belt a shot. Thanks for the suggestion.
@bagaholic_edc22 күн бұрын
Awesome video. Especially like the way you are packing your boots. This configuration is so realistic and I feel is more along the lines of what I would need/want to bring. I probably opt for the classic bullet ruck to keep things even smaller. Do you feel the 45l feels huge on your back?
@Pack_roam22 күн бұрын
Thanks! I’ve got a desert tiger stripe bullet that doesn’t carry well for work, but I’ll probably pick up a solid color classic or laptop bullet at some point just for that purpose. It would definitely lighten the load a bit and eat up less space. And yes, the 45L feels huge on my back when it’s all loaded out. It’s basically a suitcase with straps. It carries very well though, which is typical of GORUCK in my opinion. It can be a pain in crowds when traveling, but so is a roller bag and I love being hands free.
@RobertGaron22 күн бұрын
I do one bag travel with the GR1 and GR2 separately, but prefer the GR1. OH and mine is the 21L. It forces me to think minimalist and only bring the essentials. I have Kuhl clothing so it doesn’t hold odor and can wear the same shirt and pants for multiple days.
@Pack_roam22 күн бұрын
Oh wow. One bagging with a 21L GR1 has to be challenging, but it’s so nice to travel light when possible. I’ve been considering Kuhl for a while, any recommendations?
@DaemonViews22 күн бұрын
Wait your pants get a smell? The only reason I have another pair of pants is for spills or different style. And I'm not a non smelling person because I have to switch shirts every day. (Merino every 2 maybe 3 if I don't care xd)
@RobertGaron22 күн бұрын
@@Pack_roam I have never had anything from KUHL that I didn’t like and I have many, many of their clothing items. It’s worth the price. As for the packing, yes and I even had room left over in my 21L. Many of those just in case items, I don’t bring with me because either I find I don’t need to use them or if I really needed them I could go to the store and get them wherever I go. If I’m traveling overseas, I use the GR2 26L.
@RobertGaron22 күн бұрын
@@DaemonViews I have 3 Unbound Merino V-neck short sleeve shirts. I wear a couple times a week and almost every Sunday under my butt up shirt. I have yet to wash them and I’ve had them for a few months. I’ve only worn the same shirt each time. The other two I have folded up and put away until this one gets worn out.
@DaemonViews22 күн бұрын
@ either you are very lucky and sweat very little or don't have smelling sweat or nobody is telling you the harsh truth xd A friend of me also wanted to see how long his merino could last. We drove to a shopping center to get him a new shirt after a few days. And the second time he did that with a motorcycle trip and he got in my car afterwards, my seat kept smelling for weeks every time the seat heating went on.
@dmschultzie22 күн бұрын
Great video. One more thing I would toss in is a reusable grocery bag. Those always come in handy. If I'm carrying a backpack I always toss one inside.
@Pack_roam22 күн бұрын
Totally agree, they are super useful and take up no space. I’ve also just recently picked up a couple nano bags, you try those yet?
@Duanewrites23 күн бұрын
That's a great bag. I ended up selling mine, because I wasn't going to use it like I thought I would.
@Pack_roam22 күн бұрын
Definitely a great bag, but it’s pretty niche. Works out perfect for me, but if you don’t need that massive compartment it’s overkill.
@Abiotisk23 күн бұрын
Cool to see - was looking for something like that. I personally prefer more clothes for a work trip - but great video nonetheless
@Pack_roam23 күн бұрын
@@Abiotisk thanks for watching! Really depends on the trip for me, sometimes I have to bring more clothes. That loadout still had a little bit of space in it. I would usually pair that with at least a small sling too, opening up a bit more volume in the GR3.
@skipper411423 күн бұрын
Is this the 35L or 45L? Sorry I didn't hear you mention which one. Cheers.
@Pack_roam23 күн бұрын
@@skipper4114 ur right, I never did. It’s the 45L GR3.
@Pack_roam23 күн бұрын
@@skipper4114 thanks for the heads up on that, I added it to the description.
@skipper411423 күн бұрын
@@Pack_roam thanks for the great review. Trying to decide on this one. Wondering how much more room this one has vs a Gr1 26L. keep up the great reviews. Where ya located?
@Pack_roam23 күн бұрын
@@skipper4114 thanks for watching! Im just south of Chicago. U talking GR1 26L vs GR3? Massive size difference. If you’re trying to decide between them… what would you be using it for?
@skipper411423 күн бұрын
@@Pack_roam Just for a 4-5 day travel. I use packing cubes. But with Gr1 26L is hard to fit a jacket or extra pair of shoes. My biggest concern is the weight. 4.3 lbs empty is a lot for a 35L. My wife went to Purdue.Cheers from Canada. keep up the great work.
@Vikingbastich23 күн бұрын
You know.... i didn't need a G3 and a bullet. But now watching this -damnit sir.
@Pack_roam23 күн бұрын
@@Vikingbastich you’re welcome 😂 Great setup tho for work travel for me. Works out perfect.
@DanLittle-o2u23 күн бұрын
Handcuff key fit in the belt loop pocket?
@Pack_roam23 күн бұрын
@@DanLittle-o2u that is a damn good idea. Perfect place for that.
@marrngtn15 күн бұрын
Came here to say this☝🏽
@Rick-fz7tt26 күн бұрын
How do you carry it?
@Pack_roam26 күн бұрын
@@Rick-fz7tt It’s big, so I usually carry it in my EDC bag. It’s made appearances in several of my bag review videos. Sometimes, though, I’ll just grab it on my way out the door and toss it in my truck if I don’t need my whole bag.
@abrahamvr27 күн бұрын
have you tried the 16l dual comparment? wondering if u shouls go w the 18 o 16l im 5”10 and have a 15” worklaptop what would you recommend?
@Pack_roam27 күн бұрын
I’ve never used the 16L. Personally though, I’d go with the 18L, which already seems on the small side for my 5’11” frame. It’s such a great size for daily carry for me, not sure I’d want to give up 2L of space. I’ve got a 14” work laptop that fits with plenty of room in the 18L, but a 17” will not fit. I’m not 100% sure what size laptop the 16L can take.
@robertwilliams276228 күн бұрын
I purchased molly clip on compression for the bottom. Need it to really compress and if I want to attach something long. The beaver tail bag should stretch which is a really a minus if I want to throw in a rain jacket.
@julianp.284029 күн бұрын
Love mine. I also have the same issue with the zippers not always wanting to make it around the corners but overall the bag is so beautiful who cares lol.
@Pack_roam29 күн бұрын
@@julianp.2840 lol, yep… that’s pretty much my position as well 😂
@houserhythm29 күн бұрын
Mate, I get having some notes to glance at in order to keep you on track... but you're looking at the notes more than the camera. It feels like you're talking to someone else, not the viewer.
@Pack_roam29 күн бұрын
@@houserhythm Thanks for pointing that out, I appreciate the feedback. Definitely something I need to improve.
@RobertGaron22 күн бұрын
I think he’s fine. No worries about the notes look. Well done review!
Thanks for watching! It would be nice to some external lashing points.
@BOOSTEDLASERАй бұрын
SO NICE.SHAME NOT 1000D.FOR THE PRICE IT SHOULD BE.FALL APART? ANY ISSUES? ZIPPERS?
@Pack_roam29 күн бұрын
Definitely a nice sling. I don’t think durability is going to be an issue with the 400D UrbanBlend material. Plus, construction is solid. This thing isn’t going to fall apart. All zippers are YKK, the best zippers out there. The main external zippers are coated for weather resistance.
@visionarystyle_Ай бұрын
Would you pick Bellroy venture ready sling 2.5l or AER day sling 3?
@Pack_roamАй бұрын
@@visionarystyle_ Both great slings. For me though, I think the Bellroy Venture Ready wins out. I think it’s got a better fidlock buckle, I like the organizational layout better, the way Bellroy does the dual zip main compartment, the automatic compression.
@visionarystyle_Ай бұрын
@@Pack_roam Thanks so much for your help! Just purchased the bellroy glad I made the right choice
@Pack_roamАй бұрын
Awesome! My pleasure! Great sling. U pretty much can’t go wrong with Bellroy.