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@MrPlumber27
@MrPlumber27 Күн бұрын
I absolutely love having a lathe !! If you don’t have a part you need then you just make it! I needed an air chuck end the other day and didn’t want to leave to get one so i made one .
@MrAranhaman
@MrAranhaman Күн бұрын
Bravo✊✊✊✊👏👏👏👏
@agoldberg2851
@agoldberg2851 Күн бұрын
That was fun!
@wademoore2139
@wademoore2139 Күн бұрын
Super cool!!!
@renetand
@renetand 2 күн бұрын
What about traction control? I do get different advise. Just floor it a ref high and trust the traction control or be gentle and try to be your own traction control? The first advice was given by the suspension expert I went to.
@moosestevens9434
@moosestevens9434 2 күн бұрын
The dedication to the SDR platform and degree of pursuing improvements y’all have is pretty amazing, even more so for not being a manufacturer-level team. Please continue pushing, and thank you for sharing.
@okie-rider
@okie-rider 3 күн бұрын
Great video and content! Well done!
@carloslopezcolon4387
@carloslopezcolon4387 3 күн бұрын
I use to build turbo car back in the day one of the aspects that I based my tune on my cars was EGTs and conjunction with knock sensor to optimize fuel and timing tables. I have a question can you degree that camshaft to optimize the harmonics of the engine that free hp there.
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 2 күн бұрын
While it is possible to play with cam timing on gogo’s bike, it’s not sometime that is easily reproducible for our customers and other SDR riders. As for tuning by EGT, it works great on turbo engines that run low timing advance under boost. Too low of ignition advance to avoid knock in a situation where excessive boost pressures are run will cause a reduction of an engine’s thermal efficiency. Spark fires too late so that less of the combustion energy is used to push down the piston and more of it is pushed out the exhaust in the form of heat. Monitoring that exhaust heat is a useful way to know when that situation arises. Basically it’s a good determinator of how efficient combustion in relation to torque output. For non-turbo engines running relatively high nominal spark advance values, EGT tuning is a less useful metric.
@carloslopezcolon4387
@carloslopezcolon4387 21 сағат бұрын
@ Yes you’re correct thinking back the most degree of spark advancement was 30<35 degrees. I know you can run a water methanol to cool the air charge and aids cooler combustion chamber so you can push more timing I don’t know if it’s possible to adapt to gogos bike I know on a drag bike the swing arm becomes a storage area for a plethora of things.
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 3 күн бұрын
Shiv, please do the Duke 990 also! The new R version is coming and also the RCR 990. My wife wants the 990R and I'm going to buy the RCR 990
@A.J.1656
@A.J.1656 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. My new 1390 is probably parked for the winter, but next year, I want to get out and do my first track day on it.
@jakeb92980
@jakeb92980 4 күн бұрын
Angela, brains and a good arm if shes playing 3rd base.
@seebarnes6588
@seebarnes6588 4 күн бұрын
Dave Moss. and you ment turn 2 ;)
@felixrupp2632
@felixrupp2632 4 күн бұрын
Great video!! Immediately had to check out Mr Patheks website since I track an 890R myself. I still have a few questions about their Flash and wanted to contact the support. Unfortunately it says, that the portal isn't available at my location (Austria). Is there an email I can turn to?? Any kind of help is greatly appreciated.
@patflores179
@patflores179 4 күн бұрын
You may have just saved, a 13yr sober addict ,that recently had quite a stumble which turned into an avalanche…if you know what I mean. Trying to get out from under that too familiar hell of the past Inspiration at the Divine moment DAY 1. Ready get set GO!!!! Wish me luck
@6GearCutloe
@6GearCutloe 4 күн бұрын
I absolutely love this channel. Thank you.
@samanthagregoryurich4167
@samanthagregoryurich4167 4 күн бұрын
Fascinating! Just curious if knock testing is distructive or if an engine can tolerate a certain amount of knock? Also, is there an Open Flash for RS660?
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
Engines can tolerate certain amounts of knock. Mild knock that occurs from time to time is generally ok but still undesirable. But repeated knock or more serious knock can cause pitting on the piston, broken ring lands and ultimately catastrophic failures. I don’t believe the rs660 has knock sensors. Generally they are only seen on flagship bikes with high output, high revving engines. I do plan to add support for the newer Aprilia models sometime next year. I’ve owned an rs660 for a brief amount of time. Really fun bike!
@RobertKehl
@RobertKehl 4 күн бұрын
WOW now you have taking it to a whole new level. Can I get a copy of that map when it’s done.
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
Yes everything we learn with this project will be applied to our tune files. Even more power without undue risk is the goal.
@jamest5149
@jamest5149 4 күн бұрын
Great content. You need to keep bring them both back… deep dive the details
@jamest5149
@jamest5149 4 күн бұрын
Just simplify your conversation, ‘gas or gasoline’ is a Petroleum product, hence why most countries call it ‘petrol’ which is short for Petroleum spirit. Then when you talk about a gas its not confusing
@motoman1996
@motoman1996 4 күн бұрын
Just tuned my 2022 Superduke with open flash and it’s so much better now. Thanks Shiv
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
Happy to hear it!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 күн бұрын
Superduked, don't worry about your friends' explanations being too loud and too fast for your viewers, some of us are picking up when they are putting down, rather quickly. 😆
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
With “exothermal” in your user name, I’m not surprised!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 күн бұрын
You're picking up what I put down.
@mickr357
@mickr357 4 күн бұрын
What a great video, three obviously super intelligent people providing informative information, in both layman's terms and an extremely entertaining fashion, with good banter thrown in. Looking forward to more!
@shawnpark2840
@shawnpark2840 4 күн бұрын
Definitely exciting
@veetwotls
@veetwotls 4 күн бұрын
Looking forward see more video's of you 3 guys working on this R&D tunes Best move i did with my SDR was the OFT Gen2 Stage3 back in 2018 it suits my custom 1290 SDR for the off road use i do "1290 Super Enduro R" build - see my Avatar. shameless plug for an upcoming article - Australasian Dirt Bike Magazine #545 (also in earlier edition last year)
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
Excellent!
@MotoSurgeon
@MotoSurgeon 4 күн бұрын
Shiv is the man
@YAMR1M
@YAMR1M 4 күн бұрын
@shivhappens9200 The whole det counting thing is great... Honda were selling det counters for their 125cc and 250cc 2 strokes in the 1990's and it saved so many engines from going pop... They would tune to get as close to optimum jetting each day and knock would happen even then, but they would have a figure they felt was acceptable. So if they got say 20 knock counts over a race they may feel they could get a little more power out of the engine. If they got 20 per lap then they would richen up the jetting or adjust the ignition timing to make it less likely to hole a piston. Looking forward to seeing how it all works out...
@rodneymounsey4168
@rodneymounsey4168 4 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the next episode, interesting, fun, can’t wait!
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching
@chriseastburn3551
@chriseastburn3551 4 күн бұрын
Interesting discussion! So is there a Gen 3 tune available now from Shiv?
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
Yes there is. The tune we are working on is more of a race tune. He's already got street tunes and his system is being shipped for a while now
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
Yes the OFT for both the gen 3 1290 SDR is available. Same with the gen 4 1390. You can find a link to our website in the video description 👍
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 4 күн бұрын
Strongly recommend you hold OFT to whatever they say they will provide. Their customer service isn't great. FYI.
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
My experience is the Gen3 hack took way longer than projected.
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
Steve, you complained in the comments section of the last video Gogo posted about us not having the SDR gen3 OFT available for sale when you wanted to buy one last year. So you went with another tuner who rushed their product to market. I’m happy to you did. I think that works out the best for both of us. But complaining about our customer service when you aren’t even a customer is a little weird. Doing things right take time. Sometimes longer than anticipated. Others waited for us and are quite happy they did. Feel free to peruse the SDR Facebook groups for evidence. Same with the Ducati v4 OFT. I will never release something that isn’t fully tested and ready for public use. There is a very real safety concern with motorcycle tuning and I take my job quite seriously.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 күн бұрын
@@shivhappens9200 This is the difference between rookie tuners who are in it for the $$ as a side-gig to their main motorcycle dealership/sales/pursuits, and people who actually understand how these complex electro-chemical-mechanical machines work and the potential control over them that can be optimized. Good job. Customers may be rather misinformed, unable to understand, and have specific goals they just want to speak into existence, but you as a tuner do not want to take advantage of their ignorance and make them guinea pigs for broken engines. There's such a thing as litigation and lawsuits from customers which can ruin your career, no matter how competent and understanding you are of the tuning environment, customers cannot be made to understand it. It can get to be a witch trails issue in law-fare.
@nuurushean9895
@nuurushean9895 4 күн бұрын
It's a shame you had a bad experience with OFT Steve, I'd give them another shot if you get the opportunity in future. My experience with OFT's customer service was fantastic, Shiv was extremely responsive and he even chatted via private message to answer the questions I had. He gave an accurate shipping time, told me which method to use for the fastest service to my country and made sure I got it in time for my track day. The tuning process was extremely easy with a video tutorial to guide me through, and the tune itself has improved the bike immensely, 3rd/4th gear power wheelies are much easier, I'm picking thats thanks to the better fueling below 6k RPM. From what I've gathered in superduke communities my experience represents the large majority of people who have dealt with OFT, and I think this video shows Shiv's character quite well. I commend Shiv, Gogo, and Angela for doing this work, which I imagine will trickle down to improve all of OFT's Superduke tunes.
@mojosdad68
@mojosdad68 4 күн бұрын
This is a great collaboration Gogo. ​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠@shivhappens9200 do you have a tutorial video on your OFT installation? I’m a potential buyer of your tune for the SDR EVO but I’m a little freaked out by the process as I’ve never fiddled with ECU tuning. A step by step video would be great.
@javasoldier5926
@javasoldier5926 4 күн бұрын
great video thnks, why your racing superduke cannot break 149MPH - this is only 240km/h... stock bike hits 175MPH easy
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
The straight at thunderhill isn’t very long. So 149mph is the speed he reaches before he needs to brake for turn 1. It is not the top speed of the bike.
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
If you can hit 175mph with your SDR on the front straights of Buttonwillow, Sears Point, Thunderhill or Laguna Seca, I will buy you a Gen4. And no dropping bikes out of airplanes allowed.. :))
@javasoldier5926
@javasoldier5926 4 күн бұрын
@@superduked33 challenge accepted, need some time to buy the bike and transport it to Laguna, if I fly on the plane with the bike inside is it counts?))
@_TheChristophe
@_TheChristophe 4 күн бұрын
Love your videos. Nice to see a different approach to motorcycle content.
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
Thank you that's inspiring.
@shanemartinson5006
@shanemartinson5006 5 күн бұрын
I'm gonna order a tune from him for my gen 1 this winter. Excited to see what y'all come up with
@Filthy_Goblin_44
@Filthy_Goblin_44 5 күн бұрын
I'm almost breaking 160 on my stock gen 3 at NCBIKE
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
Sounds like fun. Our straights are not as generous
@CASADELSOULVIDMIXTV
@CASADELSOULVIDMIXTV 5 күн бұрын
Two old bros trashing each other's respective passion and expertise for 40 min lol
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 4 күн бұрын
That's what a racing paddock is like every night. Take bites out of each other all day on track and all night around the fires, and find the best friends you'll ever know.
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
😂😇🙃
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 күн бұрын
It's like a small pool filled with several great white sharks and several orca.
@jimjim753
@jimjim753 5 күн бұрын
Hope to see more of Angela and shiv in more videos....... 👍 🍻
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
@@superduked33 I can't believe this is Angela's first appearance on screen. She's way more charismatic than either of us! 🤣
@bryansuperduke1290r
@bryansuperduke1290r 5 күн бұрын
So what’s the effect of the twin spark plugs on the Superduke over a single spark plug head? I guess with this new step in developing the bike, your not going 1390 next year? Are you expecting more knock from the rear cylinder, possibly due to slightly higher temp as it gets less airflow? Are you monitoring cylinder head temp?
@superduked33
@superduked33 4 күн бұрын
Not sure what next year has in store. But I do have 2024 4th and 5th gears in my spares right now... :)). They're definitely going into my Gen3 motor. Shiv should respond about the dual plugs. My guess is more sparks = more thorough burn. Cylinder temps is a great idea.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 күн бұрын
Big displacement twins have large bore size, that is, if you still want high rpm (piston speed limits, connecting rod force limits, all of that) which usually translates to decent horsepower. Trouble with big bore size, the flame propagation from the point of the spark to the extents of the bore takes more time. This is not really an issue with four cylinder 1L engines as such, even when they shorten stroke and increase bore to radical proportions. Going with a dual spark setup on a very large bore size will reduce the amount of time to get all that HOMOGENEOUS (😆) mixture burning, thereby increasing pressure sooner and optimizing burn.
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 4 күн бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket Exactly. I suspect the transition to twin spark also had to do with emissions requirements. To ensure a more complete burn with less NOx output. Also interesting to note that the timing tables for the secondary coil are similar to the primary coil except for high RPM/high load where they are very retarded (single digit nominal spark advance) vs the 25-35 deg BTDC you'd see on the primary coil ignition tables.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 күн бұрын
@@shivhappens9200 Makes sense as regarding emissions. For example, the new Suzuki DR-Z4S coming has dual spark added to it. That's entirely emissions related. So the secondary plug at high RPM/load are firing significantly later than the main plug, you're saying?
@shivhappens9200
@shivhappens9200 3 күн бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket yes, that is correct. It would appear that is an attempt to ensure a more complete combustion by staggering the spark events.
@rc51price
@rc51price 5 күн бұрын
My rc51 tank slapped me when landing a wheelie soft at 80 mph. Your explanation doesn't work
@rc51price
@rc51price 6 күн бұрын
Some race fuels will run cooler bike. Coming from drag bikes
@rc51price
@rc51price 6 күн бұрын
Do you get more head shake with the shorter trail and light front end under acceleration
@rc51price
@rc51price 6 күн бұрын
Great info
@SongJLikes
@SongJLikes 7 күн бұрын
Anyone ever mention how much this helps them in ‘sim’ racing, ie. video games? Cuz I’m a real-life sportbike/street rider… But I RACE in Ride 4, and I’ve used real-life racing/riding tips to help get me where I am in the game.. And this video touches on my approach to ‘drifting’ my bike into particular corners to get through them quickly 🤷‍♂️
@phillygoat
@phillygoat 8 күн бұрын
Happy Derek brought up the question about WHERE in the turn to apply this technique. It was something I was slow to understand. I used to feel like I was doing great in the “fast” group of track days, not realizing how lucky I was not to lose the front from opening the throttle too soon in the corner (a result of over slowing/not trail braking enough into turns). Anyway- four club racing seasons under my belt and my fundamentals are decent, but I really like your description of finding the next bits of time/speed in the “in between “ spaces. I could see this difference while trying to stay with our local club #1 during a qualifying session. By the end of the second lap trying to stay with him, he was gone. There was nothing spectacular about his riding aside from simply being quicker with his transitions during cornering and being more comfortable being closer to the edge of traction. (Racing Aprilia RS 660s) Really loving this channel- picking up a ‘20 Super Duke w/ 900 mi?! on Saturday for road trips and occasional track days. The RS 660 is a blast and saves $$$ on tires but I miss having something ridiculous! Racing OR/WA but have ridden the season opener at T-hill couple times. Hope to see ya some time. Cheers! Phillip
@superduked33
@superduked33 8 күн бұрын
Four seasons in, good for you. Most only talk about, dream about racing. Making the leap is a big deal. Takes courage voluntarily entering an environment where you know you'll get humiliated, at first. So, props to you. Also for recognizing going faster, at first, is about the bigger things. But after some time it morphs into being more about the little things. And then the super little things. ...Thanks for this response, its inspiring - and by that I mean it is fuel for me to make another.
@cameronmale83
@cameronmale83 8 күн бұрын
Strain gauge is needed. This is very crude.
@superduked33
@superduked33 8 күн бұрын
100% agree on the strain gauge, which I have now. Still though, crude as it is, the obvious is obvious. Thanks for watching
@voyteq1
@voyteq1 8 күн бұрын
I would like to see the whole process of replacing it on the bike 😉👍🏻
@superduked33
@superduked33 8 күн бұрын
OK, I'll do that. Thanks for your feedback
@phanharith5941
@phanharith5941 8 күн бұрын
thank you so much sir for share your experience for young rider like me
@CAPTAINAUSTRIA307
@CAPTAINAUSTRIA307 8 күн бұрын
Another great, insightful and funny video but... what has Derek ever done to you that justifies his brutal roasting?! :-) (I have very close friends like this and we do the same to each other :-))
@superduked33
@superduked33 7 күн бұрын
OMG don’t even worry. Derek dishes abuse out to me in never ending brutal fashion. He’s actually worse to me than I am to him. We met playing softball years ago. I’m the oldest guy on the team, so you can imagine the abuse. Motorcycles came later after he learned what I do. Then finally the tables turned on him for a change. I have years still before I make up the abuse deficit. :))))
@CAPTAINAUSTRIA307
@CAPTAINAUSTRIA307 6 күн бұрын
@@superduked33 Because you and I are the same age I am feeling MUCH better now! Go get him! LOL
@21r1_tony2
@21r1_tony2 9 күн бұрын
Such great info! Going to use the “get it in, get it turned, get it out” this weekend at the track.
@superduked33
@superduked33 8 күн бұрын
Good luck, stay safe.
@RamboRob
@RamboRob 9 күн бұрын
Wow this was eye opening about being in too high of a gear and a lot of what I feel on the track. Subscribed for more.
@superduked33
@superduked33 8 күн бұрын
Super glad it helped. I'll do more
@RamboRob
@RamboRob 9 күн бұрын
Good stuff. Thank you.
@superduked33
@superduked33 8 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, I'll make more
@vojtechvacek4783
@vojtechvacek4783 10 күн бұрын
I didn't watch the whole video, but I'm using rev limiter as a poor man's traction control all the time.
@superduked33
@superduked33 10 күн бұрын
There’s more to it when you have time.