"Hi, I’m really curious about the PO role and feeling a bit tense about it. I have some doubts and would appreciate your help. Could we talk about it?"

Thanks for the video, clear explanation! But tbh, lowkey feel like this Bpmn process is powerfully useless…

Really good video, thanks. One thing that I'm not sure if it's a BPMN thing or just something you did, but you referred to the X gateway as "either or". In Software we usually refer to that as the Exclusive Or, which is (I think) more in line with what it actually means. You can only pick one path and that choice *excludes* the other paths. In American English at least, "either or" is how we colloquially would say that you can do both/many paths, so it might confuse some American viewers.

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Thank you for your insight, I learned something new

This was super helpful! Thank you! I loved how you showed examples that you didn't agree with to show how we might encounter these in a real life scenario

Please which BPM tool are you using?

to be honest, this video was rather unclear. To understand Gateways, you first need to explain what are these, when are they used and then show an example. Here you are just jumping over some screens, partially demonstrating how they are used, but not really. If I am new to BPMN I would still wonder what the even based gateway does. And you can start by saying that this gateway looks forward (as compared with the other gateways) and whichever event of the ones that come off the event based gateway happen first, the process forgets all the other paths and takes the path of the event that happen first. My advice for future such videos is to give as much context as possible to the viewers. For beginners, this video just does not work.

Just realized after upload, in the first intermediate diagram ; when the citizen completes the application after the government has filed the application as incorrect, the citizen process ends via an throwing message END event. This means that when the government again files the application as incorrect and tries to hand it over to the ciitzen, this won't work, as the citizen process has no token active anymore. In order to correct this, we would need to adjust the citizen process. When the citizen sends the corrected application back to the government, we would need to model a path back to the event based gateway, so that the citizen is waiting for a response from the government.

You are pointing at and selecting all the elements except the one you are talking about

in the event based gateway example, what happens if friend called at 7PM ?

What a fantastic video! I loved the practical examples and the simulation of the process with the form! Great explanations of fairly complex concepts!

simple, great starter

outstanding video

how to get flowable , is it a software ? , I'm looking to download it for windows , right now I'm using MS Visio but this look so appealing

great info sir

Emotional and inspiring. Thanks

what is this tool called ?

Good video, at our college we use Camunda however an opensource tool is always nice to know

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What the hell is this? Nothing to do with analysis. You are just doing useless work. These features have been in applications for many years....

wow. so nice. u got one subscriber.

Thanks for providing this much information ! it's very helpful to organize & document the requirements😀

that thumbnail is attrocious and I was definitely expecting some indian guy

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@theagilebusinessanalyst Can the either or be used in cases where both paths will be followed ?. I think so .For example, I am creating it to show a process where a system has a limited capacity and we can share data through it. Therefore if the user has access to the system then we share the data through the system.However if the user has not access then we share an excel file , so we take another process (outside the system) and both paths will be followed, as all users need to take the process of accessing data .It is not a parallel for sure and it will need to have a question on top to depict that the user has or has not access to the system. It will have the following question User can access system ?

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I have a different opinion here. XOR can also serve several paths, e.g. PurchaseAmount < 500 no review >= 500 review Supervisor >= 1000 review CFO

Are requirements gathering and Elicit requirements the same thing?

Really clear and simple to comprehend the topic. Despite the fact that I had almost zero understanding in BPMN, now I can see the importance of it. Thanks man!

Thank you, it's very useful for me.

I've been feeling my way in the dark (metaphorically), surviving as a "business analyst" since graduation. I graduated from college with an accounting degree (not actively pursuing a CPA) in 2004. The info in this video makes complete sense to me. I am a Business Analyst with experience in complex environments. I'm versatile - have more experience in some areas then other areas - but I have problems in my career (the position I'm currently holding) when they confuse me with a SME in the specific field, or they make me a Project Manager that is supporting the active Project Manager. I have seen this career path open up to me - in glimpses, and if you are not paying attention, the little opportunities to steer onto the proper lane, can block you from continuing on in the project. Business Analysts have good skills in excel, they can automate business processes, have self confidence because they have held positions were they solved problems, but don't necessarily have deep understanding of coding, more like a "tinkerers" understanding of coding, or info security, but they have great people skills - they are good at reading people, but they need to be careful, because their self confidence confuses strong leaders,. Business analysts read people well, have a lot of self confidence, have difficulties succeeding on a project - because they don't have deep knowledge of anything. They usually get hired because they can't find a candidate who meets the job requirements perfectly so they hire a person who has analyses skills. Thanks for this video - I am rolling off a project, 3 months being kicked around - showed them some things, but never really had a chance to find my swim-lane, they just don't understand my role - and the scrum-master role was taken, so I had no place to go (the Project Manager was trying to protect their turf - felt insecure with me being on the team) but, I picked up another skill-set to add to my portfolio of experiences. It's important that a Business Analyst set the expectations with the hiring manager before taking the position. Sorry for the rambling email - I totally appreciate this video - it's all I really need to know in order to make my career a success, One thing that I want to say to other Business Analysts who may relate to what I am writing here, the roles that you hold and role off aren't failures, they are successes because you become more knowledgeable of the world (whether its Govt or Commercial) but all of the experiences help you be a stronger Business Analyst.

hi, answering your question ""lemme know if you understand it in the comment below" i do not, best.

1. Document Analysis 2. Surveys and Questionaires 3. Shadowing 4. Interviews 5. Workshops 6. Prototyping

Thank you for the videos, which really helped me learning. On comment/question, though. In the example with the inclusive or, which you run about 13:50 in the video, would it not be problematic if you entered, say 1$ ? You have a path for >100$ and one for >1000$, but no default path. Would that gateway become a defacto endpoint? Or will the process be running perpetually?

Great video 👌 It was really easy to understand. Thank you so much 👍

In OR gateway example what is the flow if the loan amount is less than 100 ?

I know this is an over-simplified scenario for the purposes of the example, but I'm wondering why BPMN seems so overly complex. I'm here because I've been a Business Analyst for 15 years, and somehow manage to dodge needing to use actual BPMN ever, despite learning it at university.

I think you need a more relatable real-life example, not just a call and email. Eg. Use fills out Web form AND identification docs received from customer via email.

Thanks for the nice explanation.

Thank u so much man , for sharing your knowledge very helpful for me .

I’m going to listen to this every single day till I master all of them… what a video!!! 🎉🎉 Thank you!

Nice video!

Hey i like the new direction for your channel 👍🏼. I can already see tons of potential for you Good Luck BA

which app you used here

have a job interview tomorrow in morning. i did not expect to get an interview about bpmn. i have no foundations. super good video.hope interview goes well.