3 1/2 hrs is barley a ride..... not sure what ya USA riders call a day ride but here is Aus a day ride with a fuel drop all on single trail is a ride... and a boys weekend is 2 days of singles, not thats not riding loops, thats not passing the same section of track twice. Elec has along way to go to match a smoker any time soon. but i will convert when the tech gets there, i love the maintenance free idea of elec motor.
@biketoys2940Ай бұрын
It is good? I have exc 300 thinking to get 250 exc-f, 300 2 stroke is too much for me.
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
I love 250s because they’re so easy to ride. Miss this bike.
@biketoys294028 күн бұрын
@@TheMitchForrest have you tried yz250fx?
@TheMitchForrest28 күн бұрын
@@biketoys2940 the 2014 yz250f was the first new bike I ever bought. It was great.
@weekendveteransАй бұрын
1hr 47minutes moving time. Good work
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
2 hours 42 min moving time.
@ShelbyPagetАй бұрын
Yesss thanks for posting!
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
Yessir!
@Jagi603Ай бұрын
Which state is this ?
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
Idaho
@andyviousАй бұрын
@alpinexc is awesome!
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
Absolutely.
@tmax6145Ай бұрын
5 months without a video is criminal
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
My B
@chrispchicken313Ай бұрын
Do they have the silent ones for a 2023 Honda 450R ps great video it was a huge help
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
Yes they should. If they make a tip the other attachments bolt to the tip. You’re welcome.
@chrispchicken313Ай бұрын
@@TheMitchForrest thank you 🙏
@TrigmentsАй бұрын
Should I get this bike or stitched 360
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
Either would be sick. Similar builds.
@novendra_Ай бұрын
Does Quickshifter work?
@TheMitchForrestАй бұрын
Yeah, but my finger on the clutch works better.
@Flametux2 ай бұрын
Love those dunes, go there all the time. I gotta lose some weight, you're making me jealous how fast you go up on a sand knobby lol
@TheMitchForrest2 ай бұрын
I need to get back down to that weight myself 😂 dunes are always a good time!
@user-wl4yd6oh3c3 ай бұрын
Husqvarna ktm is the best
@michaelwalas59484 ай бұрын
In all honesty it doesn’t surprise me that there’s that much discrepancy in the times.. with more practice on both bikes you’ll improve your times massively . You need to look more in advance for each corner as well as out of corners to set your body positioning up 👍🏼
@chrisulmer6944 ай бұрын
*You went WAY too fast showing how to put the straps on.*
@johnbishop19114 ай бұрын
Back in the 70s they had motocross races there. My Dad talked with the local land owner about having them. Now that part of the original track is fenced off.
@TheMitchForrest4 ай бұрын
That would have been awesome.
@therawlifefamily5 ай бұрын
Me in the orange shirt @ 0:13
@riders.oregon44745 ай бұрын
That gate dropped right after you pulled up. Not much time to get ready for the launch.
@kjacob8365 ай бұрын
Quick lil lap times here lol
@MountainMXOfficial5 ай бұрын
Would a 250 or 350 sxf or xcf have enough power for the dunes?
@TheMitchForrest5 ай бұрын
350 does in Idaho. 250 does at sea level in Oregon or ca.
@greatfallskam5 ай бұрын
Do you feel the Leatt Z-Frame knee braces offer the same quality protection to knee tendons and patella area like some of the higher end knee braces? Any pros and cons? Price seem to good. Thanks for great video. Kam
@TheMitchForrest5 ай бұрын
I never wore any of the other to be honest. And now I just wear knee pads and strengthen my knees and legs in the gym. 🤷🏻♂️
@user-qe5qs5vq9c5 ай бұрын
Just an observation pro rider seems to be using front brake and open A rider seems to be using his rear brake which reduces momentum in the turns.
@rtimetoride76456 ай бұрын
I understand your advice, but fourth gear on a second gear trail. You must be out in a wide open desert, not in the trees cause that ain’t gonna happen.
@lukereilly49636 ай бұрын
greatly appreciated. I think you should do b class and c class rider comparisoins too. Personally I am just not graduating from c class and competing in a and b class. I would be going about as fast as your vet rider in this video from the looks of it.
@RandyMangumTannerMangum_6116 ай бұрын
Perfect dirt!
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
So good!
@jonathanwalsh37716 ай бұрын
What frame rate are you filming in? 24fps with horizontal stabilizer?
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
2.7k 60fps. Regular hypersmooth, no boost or horizon leveling.
@roostafish9616 ай бұрын
I’m surprised at how much the pro rider was seated. Simply awesome how he erases the sand sections.
@rowantrefz89066 ай бұрын
Cool loop you got there!
@bcamcam26 ай бұрын
As a fast c rider this is how fast I feel when racing, then I watch the video back and realize just how slow I am...lol... Especially one race with the NHHA pros when they came flying through the back of the field and making lines out of nothing to get around the slower riders..
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
I feel you. Their lines and speed are amazing
@gbtrails5886 ай бұрын
nice video. (the pro on a 450. a class A on a 300 and vet on a 250) Be cool to see want time difference with the vet on the 450 and pro on the 250. threre's a difference between feeling fast and being fast. wondering if the 450 is more efficient in the sand for the vet. or if it applies. Everyone pushed it, thats cool to see. safe crashes are good!
@gbtrails5886 ай бұрын
also have to ride them different and a ton of factors. but would be interesting.
@abpob60526 ай бұрын
For those who want to go faster, try this. Shift your bike up to a gear that is difficult to pull. Use 4th gear on 2nd gear trails. Then concentrate on keeping the bike from stalling and riding in a way that keeps it in the power. You will find you have to ride much smoother, choose very different lines, and you will go much faster without any real difference in effort. Side benefit...your suspension will feel much more compliant.
@gbtrails5886 ай бұрын
thats true. but they had a lot of sand. sometimes not even shifting. using clutch and ride position. might need to shift down too to go faster.
@abpob60526 ай бұрын
The answer is they all have basically the same speed. The difference is the desire and willingness to go full out and for how long. I'm 58 and can easily run with 30+A, but I don't want to. The risk of crashing, breaking something on my body, and months of recovery just isn't worth it. So I ride in the B or C class and put on occasional bursts of speed where I think it is safe. Otherwise I cruise at just under whatever speed keeps me on 2 wheels and out of the trees on that particular day.
@goinhot91335 ай бұрын
Eh, corners is where we lose our time to the pros. It’s a little easier to go fast in a straight line.
@eastman9226 ай бұрын
Nice! I’ll be down there this weekend
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
Have fun! Unfortunately I can’t make it.
@ShaunSavage-kl9pd6 ай бұрын
I've been riding since 1982. Not very good at motocross but off-road I shred. Make a track with trees in it.
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
So much fun.
@Stroopwaffe16 ай бұрын
Technique is the main thing but race IQ and fitness are important, but racing will make you fasterthan someone who just rides around a field, i raced 7 years from 9 to 16, i went to a 5 day kawasaki uk training camp when i was 9 then a couple of years l8r to Heron Suzuki training camps sand track days and hard pack days, Technique was thebasethen fitness and of course actually racing 40 other riders in races, nothing isbetter than racing.
@anonymousanonymous83066 ай бұрын
That 2 stroke really struggled to make traction and drive. Ib ride a 300 in tight woods but I really prefer a 4 stroke on the open loose stuff.
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
I do as well
@tjjohnson41856 ай бұрын
I don't really care so much about the times, what stands out to me is how good some people are at finding traction in the loose stuff and how much that translates into an easier overall ride. My hats off to you all, great vid!
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
Thanks man!!
@tomdoe42956 ай бұрын
The information I gleaned from the video relating to the difference in speed between differing skill levels of riders was not as obvious as to who was having the most fun, and that was the third rider because he was on a 2 stroke, and fun is what it's all about, right? :)
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
Dirt bikes = 😁
@michaelh20346 ай бұрын
It depends. Some of the amateur riders are just as fast if not faster (especially on their "home" track) but usually they can't keep it up for as long due to conditioning. Off road/woods is another thing entirely.
@CP_1046 ай бұрын
The "A" rider is pretty slow. There's no way that he is familiar with that track. GoPro videos can be deceiving...
@gbtrails5886 ай бұрын
go pros cant be trusted lol
@lukereilly49636 ай бұрын
yeah exactly. looks slow on camera. get out there and look at your own videos, that's when it will look super slow. I do not intend to insult. just a lot of video playback shame experience
@dr.hugog.hackenbush94436 ай бұрын
Looks like I could actually use 5th gear on my CR500 there...
@81806346 ай бұрын
As a 40+ rider myself (very nearly 50+), I believe the word "spirited" describes the pace I like to keep these days. Younger me preferred not to hit the ground, but older me really really does not want to hit the ground! It's amazing what age does to our risk/reward balance.
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
100%
@PA-Tammy6 ай бұрын
@60 and female "Old lady bones" I just stopped hitting the ground like I got on my bike one day and said today is the last day for that and it was LOL
@Krawl9136 ай бұрын
You guys are all ripping. I’m surprised how that 300 struggled so hard bottom to mid in the sand. Those 4 strokes just do really have advantage for us old guys.
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
Thanks! He’s been playing with gearing and gear selection a bit to try to make it run how he likes.
@Foxtrot19676 ай бұрын
Was the 2-Stroke at a disadvantage on the sandy track?
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
Nick still prefers the 2 stroke. Carter and I prefer the 4 stroke. Not sure that it’s really a plus or minus either way 🤷🏻♂️
@GRAZINGARIZONA6 ай бұрын
Fun to watch video, thanks for posting it. The fast guy just carried way more speed everywhere but especially in the higher speed stuff when the sketch factor went up. Good stuff man.
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
👊🏻👊🏻
@tbird475tjk46 ай бұрын
Hard to compare since some intermediate riders are right with the very top pros and first day out of B they are competitive, no true scale to measure by
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
All 3 of us win our perspective classes 🤷🏻♂️
@fcanderson48836 ай бұрын
Good idea for a video and since it was filmed in cold riding conditions you all should have set your rebound-readjusted from probably warmer conditions Nick yes two-stroke versus four-stroke but better line Choice and then also stirring the gearbox a little bit more but most importantly he needs to adjust his suspension or get a new shock and he will do a lot better he was hesitant in specially the downhill sections thru the bumps and the ( harse V's, washout, ditches, transitions), which you could tell affected his line Choice and then of course Carter from his shadow he was standing up a lot more than you and Nick but of course the Shadows weren't there later in the day, when you took your laps. So Overall good video it can be a good training tool for other Riders to how important and beneficial proper suspension setup is in cold weather vs. hot weather conditions also hard-packed vs. sandy conditions the right suspension setup is key to become a smoother faster Rider., reduce arm pump and less fatigue,and riding style standing up more vs. sitting down especially in sand sections better. control, smoother, faster - Winner....
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
Great input
@scottbrown81426 ай бұрын
Back in the day, all out buddies would start at a trail point would send the C guy out wait 2 min then B guy take off and so on. I remember one time taking off and our fast guy was last to leave. He caught me and I was yelling you cheated leaving early until a minute later I was all by myself again haha
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
100%. We did that a few times. Fun to see how long you can hold each other off
@bighaasfly6 ай бұрын
Ain’t that the truth! Feels like they’re cheating then they just ride away while you’re doing your darndest! 😂
@scottbrown81426 ай бұрын
@@bighaasfly haha yep.
@bencampbell61736 ай бұрын
3rd bike sounds weird 😜✊🏻💨
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
lol
@tankeater6 ай бұрын
I'm a 100% Disabled Combat Infantry Veteran and I still ride (I'm a stubborn SOB). I'm 36 years old and never raced, but have rode Glamis, Ocotillo, and a lot of SoCal hills since the age of 5... Is it bad that Mitch is a little slow for me at points and Carter hits some corners like I would strive for on a pinITtoWINit lap??? LMFFFAAAOOO 🤷♂️ I weigh 180 and run an 8.8-10.3 compressive spring (rated for 200-230) on my 500 EXC. A new friend was shocked to hear iI run such a stiff spring. The look on his face was EPIC 😂🤘
@Tumid16 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in how many days each rider has on this course....is it one your's "home" track... was it the first day there for anyone? Familiarity can make a huge difference in addition to knowing what's coming up, terrain, suspension set-up, pacing & many other variables.
@TheMitchForrest6 ай бұрын
First time for Carter (pro) and myself rider 2. Nick, rider 3 has ridden it a couple times. We all had rode 90 min+ on the track before filming the lap times. Hope this helps 👌🏻