I am addicted to the way you design factories

You like to build big factories i hear instead of using modules. Thats fine. But aren't your getting to ups slowing down due to all the cacuations? This is the main concern for me to later update to quality. To go for speed instead fo quantity to make sure I can comfortably grow and not see ups drop. I have played with a bunch of friends on SE map and we hit ups cap pretty soon (w/o too big of a factory) and it wasn't pretty. After that this "too much stuff" is number 1 concern for me (and my PC is ok!). THanks!

could you please make chapters in your videos and mark the bits where you ramble on for minuttes, so they can be skipped :) (14:00)

i´m smelling some strong antipasta vibes right here... Please watch "300 - red sauce on pasta" to fully understand my response to that 😄

im going to go fucking insane it takes an ss every min for the first screenshot or so then it goes batshit insane and takes one every second and clutters the screenshot file

sussed? among us?

legendary stuff is amazing, but in my opinion going to hard for quality before you unlock legendary is kinda pointless. very expensive and you rly need a lot of resources to burn for it to be worth it. personally i would only recommend using quality modules in your mall, and you just use some extra quality building you get. its enough for space ships, rest can be done when you get nice mining productivity, other productivities, and quality miners/ pumpjacks. my only exception from that was rolling a bunch of times to get rare mech armour and weapons. those extra inventory slots help a lot.

very neat factory, but one note on upcycling/ recycling iron plates. its way more efficient to craft plates into gears first before recycling, that’s one more step that has a chance to quality up the item(or productivity if you want simpler setup), even more noticeable for copper sice copper cable would be crafted with quality and productivity in EM plant, but its a bit redundant due to how easy it is to make and scrap quality LDS from foundry.

Me after hearing 9:00 🤢🤮

At least the +20% and +40% can be converted into nice, clean +50% and +100% if you're using legendary prod mods ( +30% becomes +75% which isn't as good with belt related shenanigans but it's way better ( *7/4 vs *13/10 )

copper wires on belt is a felony,someone call the police!! ^^

Great video! I only recently launched my first rocket and watching the whole process from a different perspective really helps.

Just discovered your channel as I'm back at it with Factorio again. Refreshing to see a channel that actually makes an argument about what and why they love this game! I don't see most of the critique here as valid, OP makes a point from their aesthetic grounds (beauty in numbers etc.) and well, if this game ever was an artform Bigfoot is an artist. I'm well into building my base mostly with assembly machine 1 and steel furnaces myself this time (my reasons are mostly to keep it simple and easier math), though I need to reconsider how I lay out my belts after I've been indulging into these fantastic base builds!

I really only use balancers to correct for flow discrepancies that could easily make some machines have to work much harder than others. That way I don't end up having to deal with machines backing up when the machines that do less work run out of available materials and process stuff much slower as they wait for overflow of needed materials. I'd rather have the output slow down for everything and only have to use trains to bring in more resources instead of being forced to always find a new resource to deal with a bunch of machines that are running low on resources while still having availability in my current ore patch.

You will probably get better ideas when you learn the tech tree better, but you kind of have the wrong head on here in that there isn't one dominant strategy that is clearly better. Even assuming your preferred megabase playstyle. You might consider building smaller starter bases for example on each of the planets. Rockets are a lot cheaper than it seems like you realize. At least if your goal is just burning through research until you can build a "proper" base. The bases I built were probably 1/2 to 1/3 the size of yours, and (not counting base building time) I burned through the research on all of the planets except aquilo in about an hour each.

I dont know how you feel about this, but you can also direct insert things into the rockets, and they will launch if something in orbit requests what they hold.. the only things you can't direct insert are rocket fuel, blue circuits, and lds. This is particularly useful for throughput because you can just set up enough rockets to launch to fill any request and let rhem fill up basically. Best use for this for me has been for exporting the nauvian sciencee from vulcanus to nauvis using 5 rockets at the end of the vlock i make each science in basically

Do you need every tier of quality for each item? For example a 3 dot oil refinery.. It's not used as an intermediate, so why not aim for only the 5 dot refinery? My approach to quality has been to not get bogged down with it too much.. I build everything I'm aiming for with standard ingredients until I get the desired quality. Anything of less quality than what's desired gets recycled (with the chance to bump up a quality level) and then re-crafted to try again for a higher quality. If you're aiming for legendary quality, then brute force has been the way to go for me. The more materials you throw and the problem in the shortest amount of time the better :) For that reason Vulcanus with an infinite copper and iron supply has been the best place for the most common items. Having said that, what you built is very impressive! You're next video can't come soon enough for me :)

The quality mall had one small detail that bothered me, which was that solar panels, accumulators, and speed modules (and all modules) can be made in EM plants. They take more space (being 4x4 instead of 3x3), but they let you get 50% prod on otherwise unprodable recipes, making each item 33% cheaper, and it has 5 module slots instead of 4 letting you use an extra quality module (or an efficiency module to save power if you don't want to change the quality ratios). Quality science is generally not very useful and is mainly something you'd do because it seems fun and interesting. The main practical reasons to use quality science are throughput limitations, since it lets you effectively fit up to 6 times as much science on a segment of belt or on a rocket, and for green, purple, and military science, which all have unprodable ingredients that could instead use quality modules at the cost of making speed beacons less effective (and logistics more complex, but you're already dealing with that), which makes the quality modules effectively act like very bad prod modules, which are still better than no prod modules. Agricultural science appears to be a tempting to get in quality, but in practice, you need _very_ poor latency between science production and the labs in order for the limetime extension from quality to trump the traditional extra output from prod modules.

I did notice a similar thing to you: normally focused entirely on crushing science in vanilla 1.0 before even bothering with certain things like power armor. But in Space Age I use a lot of the lower tier stuff a whole lot more. I think if I start a new base in space age I am gonna rush the rocket silo to get white science. Because bots are significantly less useful in Space Age until you unlock logistics chests

next video: why i dont use logistics and construction robots

skill issue

Lemme save y'all some time. Focus on legendary quality 2s on Vulcanus before rare 3s on Fulgora. Dew da math. Also do nothing but legendary quality 3s in a cryo plant and that's like 50%+ quality per roll. Perfect for say up and down cycling batteries for legendary iron....

40:20 It costs way more than 6 times! You only use quality science to use redundant items as their ingridients instead of trashing them.

27:00 You can recycle fruits with recyclers having quality modules. That way you can increase fruit quality while also reducing fruit quantity.

Neat little tip to make space travel easier - if you set up all of your planets with an impossible / unrealistic cargo count (for example 10,000 blueprint books) then it will never auto-travel and you can just one-click to whatever planet you want to travel to

I love the stage when you’re playing and then the second part of the game starts playing map view and bots. The new planets have made it 5 loops of back to square one

Happy New year bro I hope you continue this series

Always a great time when you upload!

I mostly did quality on Fulgora, short of a single circuit powered machine on Nauvis that would upcycle finished items throgh a recycler until quality requests in a constant combinator were satisified. If I were try quality on Nauvis, I'd probably try and prioritize all my resources to going to non-quality essentials like science and rockets, and only play around with quality for the excess.

You should turn these into blueprints

There is no wrong way to do stuff in factorio, but the ways you can do stuff has multiplied by a ton in space age. That made it a lot more interesting to my who likes to change the way i do stuff very often and doesnt really calculate stuff, I can see the headache it could bring to someone like you who likes to have stuff all set up and calculated.

I've landed on normal only until all tech (I.e. aquilo) is done before jumping all quality levels and aiming at legendary directly from normal. the middle layers feel like adding too much junk into the system. I'm worried about resources, post aquilo tech, resources are mostly limitless (practically speaking) so I'll burn through all the middle layers and upcycling when needed and just keep legendary.

Legendary science is not worth it. The amount of items it takes to get legendary compared to normal science is more then 6-fold. To get 1 legendary iron it takes way more then 6 normal iron. Only reason to go legendary science is post endgame, when the throughput of the hub starts mattering. So please don't worry about quality science yet.

Sorting quality has been a challenging aspect of my Space Age playthrough too. Things get jammed up too often and it's hard to get ratios well enough. I've determined that I only need to do quality on Fulgora, but as needed on other planets. Generally I just avoid it now.

Love the time lapse stuff cause seeing the base develop before your eyes is awesome instead of jump cuts

I do disagree with this video, but it's an interesting perspective, which is cool

0:20 as a wise engineer said "if its stupid and it works, it aint stupid"