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@jake-rz2fk Күн бұрын
the ultrex on our boat is 7 years old and it is starting to delay when i hit the pedal, and it seems like more of a jump when it finally goes then a smooth take off
@moynaghbassfishes3818 4 сағат бұрын
I wonder if you have water in the motor housing.
@jake-rz2fk 15 минут бұрын
@@moynaghbassfishes3818 if that were the case wouldn’t our trolling motor stop turning on/ working period
@steveclark2325 3 күн бұрын
If you’re casting at fish you need a long leader, if not your bait is not getting above the grass
@moynaghbassfishes3818 4 сағат бұрын
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@genelemon2698 3 күн бұрын
Jim I love ya man and I hope all your fishing dreams come true. Tight lines and never lose hope
@moynaghbassfishes3818 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much!
@TeamJesusOutdoors 3 күн бұрын
I fish St. Clair fairly regularly, and I typically run a bit longer leader out there, for mainly 2 reasons. A longer leader often keeps the bait above some of the shorter weeds, and I believe that smallies commonly feed up on schools of bait.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 3 сағат бұрын
That seems to be the consensus among those commenting here.
@TeamJesusOutdoors 3 сағат бұрын
Good luck, my man!
@HellaBass 4 күн бұрын
If you watch the final day live, most all the top finishers caught them strolling a minnow not a dropshot
@moynaghbassfishes3818 3 сағат бұрын
Something happened with the dropshot bite. Other competitors I talked to after the tournament agreed that the dropshot lost effectiveness from practice and through the event. Why? Not sure.
@HellaBass 3 сағат бұрын
@moynaghbassfishes3818 I saw the the same thing first few days 80% off bass would eat the dropshot, but afternoon of first day they wouldn't hardly look at it I assume angler pressure, because I talked with guys that areas to themselves and they caught them good on dropshot but they weren't the right size
@wezalfish 4 күн бұрын
I am from the Great lake and Lake St Clair area. And I started a 2 foot leader last year, and noticed a significant difference in the amount of bites I've been getting. Just like a jig and minnow you want to get that bait above the fish as much as possible!
@moynaghbassfishes3818 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@sledfam3659 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for not being totally anti-FFS.... I'm 60 live one hour from st.clair. My wife and I are just starting to dedicate time to this lake. We are getting older. Technology is not as easy for us. But FFS is awesome. What takes these kids 1 hour to learn takes us days.😂😂 But I'm determined to learn it. Remember this tech was engineered by 25 year olds. Us old guys will get it. Like you said, figure out how to use scout.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 3 сағат бұрын
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@luckyleelopez3147 4 күн бұрын
Thanks bud. I had same issue. I have Been you tube surfing. For video on this . Much appreciated
@moynaghbassfishes3818 3 сағат бұрын
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@gabrone1 4 күн бұрын
Gets it above the scrub grass!
@moynaghbassfishes3818 3 сағат бұрын
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@troutheadadventures6521 4 күн бұрын
It is really common to use 1.5 ft to 3 ft drop shot leaders for Smallmouth in the PNW. Shorter leaders are used for beds and Largemouth. Vary the leader length.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 4 күн бұрын
Seems I'm the last to know on this one! Dang it.
@donkimmel9375 5 күн бұрын
It's funny when I learned to Carolina Rig when I lived in Georgia and fished West Point Lake, then I moved to North Carolina and it had not caught on much. I did learn the Carolina rig was nothing more than a Fluke or Flounder rig they used on the coast of North Carolina and was carried over to Bass fishing. And now the Drop Shot took over and the Drop Shot Is an upside down rigged Carolina Rig...
@moynaghbassfishes3818 4 күн бұрын
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@donkimmel9375 5 күн бұрын
Its like when I started Carolina Rigging we used Ron Savage pre rigged worms back in the late 80's. Later on I took that leader length and basically used a 30" leader and if I had grass I go to a 40" leader to get the bait to float on top of the weeds. At Lake St. Clair I had a 16" and a 24" leader on my drop shot and both my pros were tossing long leaders like 24" and longer...My fish all came on 24" leaders...
@moynaghbassfishes3818 4 күн бұрын
I'm the last one to know this about leader length it seems. LOL
@johnrecchia8731 5 күн бұрын
Really appreciate your candid review of it all. Best luck to you going forward. Sounds like you dialed in pretty well, all things considered.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@shad-fishy-kitch 5 күн бұрын
I fish the areas you are talking about all the time… 14 inches is a minimum in the summer. Maybe in the spring I might go down to 10, but 24 is normal and 30 or more is “long”
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
I wonder why this longer leader is preferred.
@shad-fishy-kitch 5 күн бұрын
@@moynaghbassfishes3818 I would guess clearer and warmer water lends to the fish being more willing to chase fish up in the water column. Also I believe if they are feeding on emerald shiners or alewife, they are focused higher in the water column
@michaelbirr4040 5 күн бұрын
one last comment every major bait company is trying to mimic the Deps Sakamata shad ? you have billy rub baits just saying there is a reason they have not been availble to the public for 2 plus years
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
I better take a close look at that bait.
@michaelbirr4040 5 күн бұрын
go back and look at the master Martins when he broke down in Detroit at the miracle mile i will think you will see a connect to what you are wondering about just saying..
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Okay
@michaelbirr4040 5 күн бұрын
go to a pool and see what a longer leader does your 7 inch is dragging mud at 30 feet suspended fish longer leader keeps it off the bottom no secrets go to pond or pool see for yourself
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@rickvann3489 6 күн бұрын
I use a 30 inch leaders down to 10 inches my shortest. The reason being is I can suspend it over top of the bass or if bass are relating to the very bottom I lay down my flatworm on the bottom and never lift my rod tip. Goby never leave the bottom more then inch or 3. It is a must to leave rod tip just above water level when fish are bottom related. Got my asz waxed by not doing this. There is an art to drop shot fishing for sure
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for the advice!
@davidfuller4984 6 күн бұрын
Great video
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@samaxe3489 6 күн бұрын
As far as leaders length you might be a little late to the party... I guess I wasn't surprised I have about two feet of leader also. I do spend more time trying to learn on you tube than actually fishing so I'm no expert that's why I'm watching your channel.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Judging by the comments, I am indeed late to the party.
@johnm2617 6 күн бұрын
Thought rule of thumb was cold water - short leader ? Hotter water longer leader? I'm not a drop shot guy * very rarely * never had much luck on it here in PA << Peace man 😮😮😮
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@jeffreyjensen1553 6 күн бұрын
Only one way to find out Jim! Hook the boat up and go try it out
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Indeed!
@undergroundbee 6 күн бұрын
The answer is YES
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@JBTFISHINGTV 6 күн бұрын
I feel like it is a secret. Well, was. Hahaha I appreciate you sharing your observation. I plan to try it next time I am out. Thanks.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@chrisduffy2737 6 күн бұрын
Perceptive of you. Perhaps the reason I don't care to watch tournament videos is the pros tend to hide what they're using. In addition, they don't talk water depth, water clarity, water temperature, angle of the sun, and so forth. All I get to see is them hauling in fish. I don't need that. I want information. I need help. I need to know what they're thinking.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@muskybites505 6 күн бұрын
I always use 2’ drop leaders. And I fish Green Bay plenty. When you cast a drop shot your bait will be much less up than your leader length because of the angle of your line. And shiners are preferred as a higher calorie prey. Big ones know that…but green pumpkin still gets eaten best. Or black. Ever wacky rig on a drop shot?
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
🙂👍 On a rare occasion I rig a dropshot wacky.
@DRDROP-fj4bo 6 күн бұрын
I have no experience with northern lakes or smallmouth I have heard them talk about 2 ft leaders for years in the clear waters. Here in Texas my idea length is 8-10 in. You go over that the bites start dropping off for me. Fish probably have no problem seeing a bait on the long leader in those lakes..
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@Ashtenlynch 6 күн бұрын
Heck , I didn’t even think 2 foot was that long of a leader. I throw a 2 foot leader around st Clair/Lake Erie but when I get in gin clear water, I’ll throw a 4 foot leader. I’ve caught tons of fish on both
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Interesting
@manonamissionstudios9440 6 күн бұрын
My brother fishes out of the back of my boat with a long dropshot leader. He generally throws it into the weed edges here in MN so it's off the bottom quite a bit. He catches good ones on it. He also uses a slightly larger bait profile. It works for him!
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@samuelschult985 6 күн бұрын
Jim your observations are dead on the cat is out of the bag 👍 👍 👍
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@cgraz3383 6 күн бұрын
Question I have is were they casting to/staying off the fish or dropping to them and if so what would be an average depth? It would make a lot of sense to use a longer weight to hook length if you were staying off the fish considering the angle of your line at distance effects how high your bait is off the bottom.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure they are casting to them.
@academicmailbox7798 6 күн бұрын
At some stage in all of this, you are no longer fishing a drop shot rig, but rather you are fishing with a version of a Carolina rig.
@academicmailbox7798 6 күн бұрын
The only difference being, as Frank Scalish noted lately, guys who try to whack fish on a Carolina rigging are only wasting time and effort (the large strike serves only to lift the large Carolina rig's egg sinker off of the bottom and drop it back down again). So with a drop shot rigging with a longer leader, what you realistically are doing is fishing a Carolina rig. Where the plastic bait or lure on the Carolina rig has been made buoyant enough, so that the Carolina rig's leader enables the bait to float upwards two feet from the bottom.
@academicmailbox7798 6 күн бұрын
What would happen for example if one was to Carolina rig a balsa crank bait lure ? Well my hunch, and I've really only listened to Matt Stefan talk about it, is you're crank bait spends a lot of time trying to rise back towards the surface (even if the surface happened to be 15 or 20 feet above the bottom). And what you've got now is something a lot like a drop shot system with a long leader.
@academicmailbox7798 6 күн бұрын
In moving water fishing we call this a split shot rig. Where the split shot is crimped on the end of a long leader, and we insert dropper hooks and baits at various points higher up on the leader system. So that these insect imitations present to the fish who is downstream of the angler, already positioned at various levels in the water (effectively different heights away from the bottom). Of course, what anglers in that trout method discover, is at times the fish change preference for the height off the bottom they are prepared to feed at. They call it 'high stick' method too, because anglers raise their rods higher up, so as to straighten the line and make it vertical.
@academicmailbox7798 6 күн бұрын
The reason for that is, if you do not 'high stick' (if the leader simply sags into an arc shape that goes from the angler across the river, the leader catches more water pressure, and the baits move in an unrealistic way below). Plus, as the line sags into that arc across the water, the baits all end up at the same depth (one loses benefit of showing fish a choice of baits at a choice of depths). Hence the need to hold the stick higher, maintain a vertical line down into the water, and display lures at a choice of depths, in as slow and realistic way underneath the water as possible.
@academicmailbox7798 6 күн бұрын
Because chances are, if all that works the fish might move itself sideways from it's location to feed on your artificial baits, if their presentation can be controlled and slowed down enough. So casting angles (upstream, across and downstream), and angle of the line itself in relation to the flat river bottom are all things we can control in this modified form of the drop shot.
@keithrobitaille3958 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely leader length up to 3foot
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@brettturner5780 6 күн бұрын
Have you experimented with longer drop shot leaders for LMB on clear lakes also? I know SMB will generally come up further for baits but on highly pressed waters with lots of people using drop shots, sometimes baits and leader lengths can set you apart. Thanks for sharing this video!
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
I'm gonna have to experiment more with this.
@stevesteve4350 6 күн бұрын
My opinion heck yes it makes a difference. Did the top finishers leave that note out on purpose? Absolutely!!! I like a short leader though. Definitely not 2ft. Good video. Good for Jay. I like him. He's quiet and not flashy. Lets his finishes do the talking.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
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@JamesBondDZero7Mi6 6 күн бұрын
A jig/minnow is more versatile, especially when you're trying to find the correct depth, action, etc. Once you figure that out, you can go to the drop shot and hover it where they want it. The top 10 finishers were all live-scoping which is no surprise. Joe Bauer Fishing KZbin channel had a breakdown of the recent Bassmaster Open. I believe he's a guide on Lake St. Clair. It's worth a watch. My experience with walleye is that they rarely go down to get a bait so if you're too deep, it's almost impossible to catch the more active fish. Just an amateur's 2 cents.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Thank you
@jannyday1250 6 күн бұрын
Were you fishing grass bottom?
@stevesteve4350 6 күн бұрын
Good question.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 5 күн бұрын
Intermittent grass/sand
@Basspundit 7 күн бұрын
Gull Lake has been super impressive for the last 3 or 4 years. I heard it slowed down there a bit last Fall, but it is obviously still teeming with bass.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 7 күн бұрын
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@StephenByrd-tg7dm 7 күн бұрын
Where’s Gull lake?
@moynaghbassfishes3818 7 күн бұрын
It is located in north-central Minnesota, by a small town called Brainerd.
@donkimmel9375 8 күн бұрын
Great job Jim, you were dialed in for sure catching that many weighable fish during the tournament...Thanks for the run down on your day ...Best Wishes Big Fishes...
@moynaghbassfishes3818 7 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
@rickvann3489 8 күн бұрын
I would have thrown that chatter bait and a poop bait.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
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@JimGLopez67 8 күн бұрын
Good job Jim , Awesome rebound , we live and learn . Get some rest and hit the reset and get after it . Good Luck Buddy
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
@stevesteve4350 8 күн бұрын
42 fish for 70 some pounds that's blasting em in my book. Way to go man.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
It was a lot of fun for most of us.
@larryknoob9798 8 күн бұрын
Thumbs up I hope you had fun
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
Most everybody had a lot of fun catching tons of bass.
@clintmock5615 8 күн бұрын
Michigan or What gull lake?
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
Minnesota
@tracyhein3724 8 күн бұрын
I like the format here and with MLF, but would like to see top 5 count. Results could be drastically different. And since this isn't televised they won't need to cater to keeping the viewers attention.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
Having every bass count is strategically more challenging and is simply more demanding of each angler. Having competed many times now on the Champions Tour, their format has made me a much better tournament angler even in best 5 events. It would be nice if there was a sub-prize for the best 5, like there is for big bass. Champions Tour does have a sub-prize for the best three.
@DennisMorgan-ls8sc 8 күн бұрын
Love the reviews, you did good and caught a lot of fish. You are a neko master. The tackle and lures are always helpful to your thinking. Do you ever start with topwater early or turn to that for bigger bites and to cover water? Chatterbaits in the weeds are tough to beat......
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
That topwater bite is extremely niche specific. It wasn't set up very well for our tournament.
@joepworther2284 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review, Jim !
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
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@romaloboda2280 8 күн бұрын
Thanks.
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
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@barrykern4065 8 күн бұрын
Wish all tournaments would addop that format weigh and release
@moynaghbassfishes3818 8 күн бұрын
It certainly is better for the bass, instead of being hauled around in livewells and eventually being relocated.