How many indigenous do you think were taken during the development of the LDS in the southwest ?

Ask yourself one question then why were there some Pharisees there who heard the same message and said they thought they were drunk also how did Peter get up and speak multiple languages or dialects at once what would that have sounded like and yes there are lots I don't think it's possible to count how many examples of the gift of tongues in a sense of you speaking people outside hear this weird gibberish sound but the other person understands it it's called the gift of interpretation God uses this as a tool as he sees fit I think the real question is what would a person get out of for faking it and yes there is a personal prayer language If you actually study your Bible they're different examples of unknown tongues unknown languages praying and unknown languages and multiple church letters and it's not just Acts that's just the one that people like to bring up the most I think everyone should read all the epistles in their entirety before they make a decision or not they may be shocked also if you study church fathers like origin Ignatius polycarp cyprian and you read in-depth not just a glance I think people will be very shocked at what they find you could actually trace accounts from first century all the way to John Alexander dowie the person who started the apostolic Catholic denomination which was a Pentecostal break off of the Catholic Church in the late 1800s

Buddhist here. Quaker, Mennonite, Orthodox and Ethiopian 👍 Not to categorize but theosis is where it’s at. Form is empty Emptiness is form

The west has gone the way of Sodom, Gomorrah, Pompeii. That notwithstanding, there's no need to romanticize the history of Christian marriage. In the OT, King David committed adultery with Bathsheba; in the NT, Herod Antipas illegally married Herodias. Christ Himself sternly warned - the people - about adultery in thought (Mt. 5:28), and in Orthodox Tsarist Russia, husbands get drunk and beat their wives _all the time._ Fact check it if you like. I prefer the Roman Catholic view of marriage: it is a sacrament and a *vocation* (between a man and a woman).

Maybe I am I alone in feeling this - but why there is something unsettling / uncanny about all of this California / new North America orthodoxy? I cannot explain what is wrong with it exactly, but it gives me this weird feeling, like something is off. Just cannot put it into words. Like there is a bit of the American psychosis baked in it, I do not know how to say it really. Other orthodox communities do not have this vibe.

Why this make me wanna cry

I like orthodox but can not get behind the idea of becoming a god. Its just not true.

"Hey 'Father', how do we avoid demonic possession?" "Simple. Don't enjoy anything ever! "

God, and Jesus, are not the same person, according to the Bible: Genesis one: 26-27 Genesis 5:3 Exodus 24:9-10 Exodus 33:9-11 Ax 7:55-56 Matthew 3:16-17 John1: 18-19 Matthew 26:36-56 Luke 23:34 Matthew 27: 46

All of these Mormons are seething at the fact they aren’t Christian. But muh great apostasy cope.

Its interesting because i do know the bible not perfectly but probably better then the average laymen and then i also know history also, better then the average protestant it has nothing to do with my heart. Which is why i know about the gross idolatry and pagan mixture that is in most churches. Orthodox catholic and protestant alike, let alone cults like the LDS. I pray for the coming of the man-child church for then i know my lord is coming, in truth his hand is in the lock. May we be ready.

Birth- giver.

That's right! If anyone doesn't know of it....look up 'The Apostles Creed' or The Nicene Creed.

I do believe speaking in heavenly languages has been grossly misrepresented. Now, tongues for intercession, like any other gift can only happen if you are sprirt-filled after you have accepted Jesus as your Messiah. I must clarify that you can be spirit-filled and saved without this sign (there is a protestant sect that believes otherwise to thier shame). I was granted this gift of intercession when i was spirit-filled at the age of 5. I intercede and labor in private in my heavenly language by the moving of Yahweh's Holy Spirit, as is the way the Bible puts forth. I am sure there are pretenders as there are with anything. But speaking in heavenly tongues for intercession is real and beautiful, just like any of the other gifts, and should not be feared.

I'm a protestant and like Orthodox Christians, my favorite thing about them is their reverence for Christ

Tell me you don't understand purgatory without telling me you don't understand purgatory. The arrogance is wild here

That first time, i saw Isaiah's vision of worship in Heaven being played out before me. My immediate thoughts were "Glory to God, I'm home".

I’ve never understood the trinity. First of all it was voted into effect hundreds of years after Christ’s death, that’s weird. Second it claims all three are actually one when multiple times in the NT, Christs baptism or the transfiguration to name just two we have all three in different places. Lastly Christ tells the apostles to be one as he is one with his father. The apostles are not literally one, as Christ is inferring he is not literally one with his father

WOW

Yet He tells us to ask Him for stuff

What happened to the forgiveness, is that not what its was all about, the gospel, redemption? When God becomes all in all something thats a mystery right now will happen but the cross, is that not what it was all about.

New International Version “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. New Living Translation “Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. English Standard Version “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. Berean Standard Bible Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. Berean Literal Bible Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and it will be opened unto you. King James Bible Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: New King James Version “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 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Young's Literal Translation 'Ask, and it shall be given to you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you; Smith's Literal Translation Ask, and it shall be given you. Seek, and ye shall find. Knock, and it shall be opened to you. Catholic Translations Douay-Rheims Bible Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you. Catholic Public Domain Version Ask, and it shall be given to you. Seek, and you shall find. Knock, and it shall be opened to you. New American Bible “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. New Revised Standard Version “Ask, and it will be given you; search, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened for you. Translations from Aramaic Lamsa Bible Ask, and it shall be given to you; seek, and you shall find; knock and it shall be opened to you. 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How did Christ teach us to pray? Did he say to pray to him? NO HE DID NOT!! It is the Father that we pray to and do it the name of Jesus Christ.

I am from Orthodox country. Orthodoxy is from the depths of hell (except maybe the Greek church). You got no idea what you are doing, you are just trying to appear "cool".

Theosis

The unorthodox ones are missing the point that the Mother of Gods grace comes from God. She is the gift of God, Christ adores her. And she just takes us more and more close to God. May lord have mercy on us all🙏 May Theotokos save us🙏❤️

This man is in unbelief....."orthodoxy" has taken his mind hostage....does he sound more like a doctor or scientist...or is he speaking like a spiritual man operating in faith? .....

He is either lying through his lips, or he is ignorant to the true teaching of the lds doctrine. Watch "thoughtful faith" or "ward radio", If you dont care to go to and lds church to learn what lds believe. If you only talk to 18 year old missionaries than ya there kids and dont know a lot themselves. How about dont bull kids and learn from really strong believers in the faith instead of anti believers in a faith before criticizing them, but it makes you look like you don't know what you are talking about and kinda dumb.

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Please cite chapter and verse with those names. I can't find them.

I don’t know… I’ve always been told that if we venerate icons it’s because they’re like windows open to the Kingdom, so in this aspect them being 2D is quite important. And kissing a statue would feel… Weird, to me. Having statues as decorations, sure, no problem at all for me, but it’s a typical catholic thing to only see icons as decorative objects, while they are so much more… At least 2D icons, I guess.

I am a Catholic, and a very traditional one. It is nice to see a point where we agree. I also think the charismatic movement is dangerous and this includes often those in the Catholic Church. It is sad to see so many well meaning people led astray.

meta doesn't mean change - metanoia means "go beyond mind" - or "go to the big mind" - or less literally, perhaps, "go to the nous".

God bless the HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH. 🔑⛪️🍷🍞📖🔥🕊🙏🏻

some Orthodox here thinks everything in the world HAS TO worship in one two very specific rites belonging to specific regions otherwise they aren't Orthodox. Get off of your high horse and have some humbleness in life. Not only is there not a single priest that would cherish such idea, what you are saying goes extremely against the early Church. For western orthodoxy, I think Anglican architecture could be used as they preserved the church rod customs further and still have churches that make use of them. Icons of western style (pre-renaissance) could be utilized. I am unconfortable with the Sanctuary being out in the open to that degree. Other than that, beautiful, May God bless you.

Thanks Fr, for sharing.

The data I've seen shows that Orthodox membership in the US is actually declining. It definitely feels like it's growing but I think that's mostly online

The mormans/Latter Day Saints, Jehovah's witnesses and Seventh Day Adventist's are all heretics who corrupted the Teachings of Christianity. They are modern day Heretical sects.

I am surprised petet understood this he was called dim a few times

So if you believe Christ is not god…you’re not orthodox Christian?

Amen! Orthodoxy is for the whole person.

Hence: “God is great, God is good, let us thank him for our daily bread. Amen” “Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep, if I shall die, before I wake, I pray the Lord, my soul to take.” It’s about gratitude. 🙏 😊

"the gospel By which also ye are saved, [believe that] Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins ..., through the forbearance of God; Romans Chapter 3:25

I'm going to be blunt - the church (Orthodox or Catholic) did to Christianity what McKinsey/Deloitte would do if they took over a popular local Mom and Pop shop.

I also wonder if they use the tlm?

Are Christians who believe in a doctrine that renders half the Bible nonsensical, Christians? Yes, the trinity doctrine is completely nonsensical. The difference between Mormons and other Christians is Mormons believe the Bible while the others do not. How many did Stephen see when he looked into heaven and saw Jesus standing on the right hand of God? One or two? If you say one, you don't believe the Bible. See Acts 7:54-55

So western rite does not commune with east?

That’s the flaw in orthodoxy: it isn’t adaptable. Paul became a Jew that he might when a Jew; he became a gentile that he might win one. What’s a trip to be is that God literally expelled demonic spirits tormenting Saul when David played the harp. So what if “men created them?” Men created the icons you have in the church, the candles you light, and the building you guys worship in. There is a reason why instruments have the ability to create melody. These earthly realities that reflect heavenly realities. They have their origin from God.

Scriptures > traditions “Praise Him with trumpet sound; Praise Him with harp and lyre. Praise Him with timbrel and dancing; Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe. Praise Him with loud cymbals; Praise Him with resounding cymbals. Let everything that has breath praise the Lord. Praise the Lord!” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭150‬:‭3‬-‭6‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

I am a Protestant Christian, but I have had discussions with LDS members. My understanding is that LDS People believe that Lord Jesus Christ is not GOD in the flesh, but instead they believe that Jesus is the "spirit brother" of Lucifer. LDS People also believe in "exaltation" or "eternal progression"; they imply that human beings can eventually achieve "Godhood" in heaven and that God did not just create mankind in His image but that God was also once a man who become became "exalted". LDS members seem to imply that men, angels, and God are essentially the same species, which is NOT what traditional Christians believe. As a Protestant Christian, I do not believe that Lucifer and Lord Jesus Christ are *"spirit brothers."* I believe that Lord Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh, which is part of the deity of Christ...meaning that Jesus is eternal, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, and immutable. Jesus is worshipped as God because the *Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit are all the SAME God.*