I think your going to like it If you have an S or like the tighter spacing your going to be really happy with this premium pad Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Oldo8 сағат бұрын
What is great about this is that it's in the NOIR layout instead of VEWLIX which I despise since bottom right button is too far for a normal pinky to comfortably reach on vewlix. Much easier to get to everything on react. Any idea where to get alternative keycaps for it btw? the 16's keycaps have an outer rim that gets caught on the inside of the rings.
@drjones6945 сағат бұрын
Here's a link to the smaller and larger keycaps I use on my ringed pads I had a similar issue with 1 switch but thought it was just shipping I pulled the switch out and reinstalled it and it went away but I've seen others have this issue and I hate seeing it because the pad is really nice and I dont want people to get a bad thought on the pad when I think it's a manufacturing issue Hope it helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment KeyCaps 20.2mm - Small 25.3mm - Large s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_De4Z0z3
@shorteststraw41710 сағат бұрын
thanks doc, sold me on this as my first leverless.
@drjones6945 сағат бұрын
Nice!!! Love the model T Great pad and so many customization options Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Alex-vr9vh11 сағат бұрын
The alice keyboard looks good. Which keyboard is it?
@drjones6945 сағат бұрын
Thanks thats the Keychron K15 Max I recommend the Max model over the others as it has 4 modes to support 4 devices at once 1 on USB adapter others wireless and its flat with the Gateron switches Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@caheme198415 сағат бұрын
And is this on tournament legal
@drjones6945 сағат бұрын
Each tournament is their own thing You will have to get with their rules. Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@caheme198415 сағат бұрын
Can't wait till my ultra arrives tomorrow got delayed I own the t 16 thinking that the smaller button layout will help with imput speed
@drjones6945 сағат бұрын
If the T is too big for you as in wide spacing and large keycaps your going to love the M Ultra it will be the tighter spacing you've been looking for Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@SaxandfifthsКүн бұрын
Amazing video, man. You just made me cancel the order for the R16, which I made, literally, 10 hours ago, so I can order this. I just subscribed. I have one question for you, though-- I want to get some translucent buttons for it so can you tell me what sizes the buttons are? I have seen some whispers but I'm mouth certain.
@drjones6945 сағат бұрын
Thanks much appreciated Glad it helped I'm going to forward you to the Haute42 Discord link in the description. They have a switches and key caps channel that has all the exact details and alternative keycaps and someone may have posted it there or you can comment there not in the general channel and they can give you what your looking for Hope it helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@the-tech-jerryКүн бұрын
Looks sick, when is this coming out?
@drjones694Күн бұрын
@@the-tech-jerry It's out but goes in and out of stock Here are the links I have X Series amzn.to/4hwSyaU X Series Module - Low Profile amzn.to/4hbKYm9 X Series Module - WASD amzn.to/40K2W9z X Series Module - Joysticks amzn.to/4aD00z6 Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@the-tech-jerryКүн бұрын
@@drjones694 Weird I could not find it on Aliexpress
@darrelthorburn56089 сағат бұрын
Hey do you know if the booter5 is compatible with this?
@the-tech-jerry9 сағат бұрын
@@darrelthorburn5608 Ya, its compatible but only with PS5
@studivan2 күн бұрын
The Haute42 P12 Pro 30th aniversary edition, same size as this one but more features and it matches the Ps5 30th aniversary controllers
@drjones6942 күн бұрын
Facts, the new switches come stock and are so nice and the foam to keep the sound down and make it comfortable is so nice Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@DelayYT1823 күн бұрын
so did you just add the custom artwork to your order cause where you select artwork when ordering a f1 controller it will say your artwork if you select then scroll down it will come out as 109 dollars
@drjones6943 күн бұрын
@@DelayYT182 yes you make your artwork before and when you place your order you'll add the artwork file to the order and I believe it's $10 extra or so and it will be sealed to the glass If your getting a F1 I would consider the F4-S split design Its nice but so many design options you'll find what you like Hope it helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Alex-vr9vh3 күн бұрын
How is the layout and size compared to r16? Im using r16 right now and one thing I don't about it thats the button sits a bit high compares to "normal" leverless. But I do like it have more traditional size on buttons. How does the m ultra feel in height on buttons? is it easy to sweep finger across?
@drjones6943 күн бұрын
The large M Plus and M Ultra models are basically the same size as the R and T. The M Plus and Ultra are bigger but not by much in use compared to the S or M lite The M Ultra has the LP - Low profile switches they sit about as high as the rings with no switch installed on your R. Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@notbriann3 күн бұрын
Good review, using the paper to show the scale is genius I already ordered a P12 pro and I won’t be surprised by the size now when it arrives LOL
@drjones6943 күн бұрын
@@notbriann Thanks much appreciated 🙏🏿 Glad it helped Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@caheme19843 күн бұрын
Great detailed review no fluff or rambling great job brother 👏 👍.
@drjones6943 күн бұрын
@@caheme1984 Thanks much appreciated 🙏🏿 Glad it helped Thanks for watching subscribing your comment
@slicksmokegaming98574 күн бұрын
I got the Haute42 r16 black model off amazon that says ut works with ps5. I was able to access the web configuration lage but under inout mode i see everything listed ps3. Ps4 xbox acceot ps5? Can you give a step by step explanation on how to get this thing to work on the ps5 or even a tutroial vid man? Also where j. The configuration portal can you update the firmware??
@drjones6944 күн бұрын
Here's a couple videos that will get you all set. Their short and to the point. I will 2 more that will go over how to use the controller fully and the web config page as well Hope it helps, links to everything in the description of 2 the quick start guide Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment 1 - How to connect kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6CVpICae910fNEsi=Cs3VxlLFkDsNmGU0 2 - GP2040 Controller Quick Start Guide kzbin.info/www/bejne/nl7YnqpnitarjZIsi=f5J6CT-0pUkSmNvI Extra that will explain in more detail Full Walkthrough and Web Config Walk through How To Original Start Guide 3 - Part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6elmKCYnJd0Y6csi=b7hU1leTU546RD2Q 4 - Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHeWiaWQm6t-l8Usi=KA3pLQA-bv0Jwxgg
@Ymyeh-lr8wj4 күн бұрын
I picked up a Cosmo X M16+ about two months ago. A month before that, I got a Haute42 T16. Two months before that, a Haute42 M16, which I foolishly thought was big. And about a month before that, a Haute42 G16. Man, this company has been bleeding me dry. At this rate, I could have just bought a Kitsune. There is no way I am getting a fifth one. Seriously.
@drjones6944 күн бұрын
@@Ymyeh-lr8wj And then 3 months something new comes LoL They have definitely started 2025 off strong and with the shadow Hunting switches and new M Ultra for people that like smaller buttons and closer spacing I feel your pain lol Can't wait to see what else they have coming this year Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Scaranubis5 күн бұрын
Damn that thing looks nice. And they dropped it right after I got the t16c lmao.
@drjones6944 күн бұрын
It is really nice and a nice alternative to the M Plus But if you like the T16 layout and its not to wide and they key caps are not to big for you Then your all set you wont want the M Ultra The M ultra is for those that have the Haute42 S or M Lite and like the small key caps and just want a large frame and premium build If you like the T16 you have then you would want the M Plus Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@biggz-uk5 күн бұрын
Someone buy this man a tape measure
@drjones6945 күн бұрын
@@biggz-uk Need more super chats tough in these review streets lol I try to use practical things around the house to help give people around the world that gave never used a leverless pads before get a good clue of what the pad will feel like in person Everyone has a USB connector in their house somewhere these days so easy reference lol Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@ameersher5 күн бұрын
Do you need to buy the adapters for compatibility with console?
@drjones6945 күн бұрын
Yes links to everything you need in the description The Cosmox Haute42 Booter 5 is the most compact or the Mayflash Magic boot works great too Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@richg44595 күн бұрын
Can you please review DOIO HITBOX KBGM-H02?
@drjones6945 күн бұрын
That looks pretty cool a lot like the Haute42 R16 but metal DOIO makes nice controllers with great build quality I'll try to reach out Good find thanks Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment doioshop.com/products/hitbox-gaming-keyboard-kbgm-h02?VariantsId=10714
@joesalman68926 күн бұрын
Yo drjones, i got an i ssue w my R16 usbc port and wanted to know how to fix it
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
I would recommend joining the Discord, link in the description I have seen posts of people repairing various parts of their pads or going to cel phone repair shops to repair their pads Search on the discord search box and also enter a support not general post and someone that has an idea might be able to reply and help also Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Kiryusolosfax6 күн бұрын
I rlly hope I can get it for my birthday with a ps5, try playing Fortnite on your Nintendo with it
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
We played mostly on Nintendo Switch and this controller does not require an adapter on Switch it pairs up directly to the Switch which is nice a good Pro alternative On the PS5 it will require a Brooks Wingman FGC 2 adapter and does add more complexity to the experience after more testing I noticed if I walk away for 10 minutes to eat and come back sometimes reconnecting to the PS5 can be a headache trying to get everything to repair. But turning on playing with no breaks it worked fine from my testing Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@ciscorey65206 күн бұрын
I'm really hoping those are 25.8mm caps. From the looks of it, it seems like the up-button is 25.8mm and all the others are 23.5mm-pretty much the way it is on the M Ultra. I REALLY REALLY want the option to have them all be 25.8mm. This would be my end-all-be-all pad.
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
They are the smaller key caps and 1 large on the bottom It is very much like the R16 without the left pinky from my couple hours of initial playing so far. Haven't done the full 10 hours yet and I'm hoping the LP low profile modules will have large key caps all around but we'll see when it arrives Links to everything I found in the description I like you hope they have a large key cap all around model like the T and M Plus For my long fingers and hand spacing it would be really nice I do like the split in the middle though Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Gato-g3x6 күн бұрын
I hope they will make m ultra and m-lite with 12 buttons layout
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
Good idea they did with the M Plus That would be nice to see on the M Ultra as well I really hope they release the M Ultra and M Plus in the M Lite Gold it looks really nice in person Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@juchunkura6 күн бұрын
How much was it on amazon?
@ciscorey65206 күн бұрын
$189.99
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
Links to everything I've found the controller and modules in the description. If you search Amazon they disappear when they sell out so that should help you find them Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@AssistantProfessor6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the overview. So if I understood correctly, I can't use Brook FGC 2 as a passthrough solution to play my Haute42 on PS5? I also need to connect a PS5 controller? Question: Do you envision this being addressed with a future update from Brook? It's not an elegant solution. Thank you.
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
I may not have said it right Using the passthrough port at the time of this recording You can use on PS5 the Mayflash Magic S Ultimate Brooks Wingman FGC 1 and all the booter devices shown LInks in the description On Xbox the Brooks XB3 I was able to mix and match adapters and booters using the hub and make it work on Xbox and PS5. Sometimes it wouldn't recognize on plug in. I would just unplug and plug back in and it would work no issues from my testing Xbox taking the usual roughly 10 seconds to recognize the adapter The PS5 Wingman FGC 2 from my testing only works at the end of the cord and not in the passthrough port at the time of this recording Hope that makes sense Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@AssistantProfessor6 күн бұрын
@@drjones694 Thank you for your reply.
@venpogi34866 күн бұрын
why is the RS button looks submerged?
@RadhiSghaier6 күн бұрын
I think he forgot to install a switch there He must've been planning to replace that switch before filming
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
I have long fingers I remove the bottom right switch on almost all my pads because that's where my thumb rests and I hit it accidently all the time lol I do about 10+ hours of testing and get comfortable before the review and forget to put it back a lot of times after for the video Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@sardaomalandraj6 күн бұрын
Is this the same layout as the U16? Looks like it
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
No. The U in use is basically the same layout as the T and M Plus. In use this is more of a S or M Lite layout Here is a video that gives side by sides Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3m0n6Smos6ekKs
@sardaomalandraj6 күн бұрын
@ thanks for the reply. It seems to me they might not be soooo different
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
@@sardaomalandraj Its a pretty big difference from a leverless perspective. If you have a T M Plus or U you have wide keycaps and wide spacing all around. The U keycaps appear small but they sit inside a Ring. The ring is basically the size of the T M Plus keycaps so even though your touching a small key cap your spacing and play is that of a T or M Plus The S is tight spacing with smaller keycaps all around with 1 large on the bottom. The M Ultra is the same and plays like an S just layed on to a large frame like the T or M Plus for better lap play that so many have been asking for. As the T M Plus and U are too wide for some people. In use its a big difference If you have them side by side and played an hour on 1 and an hour on the other you will notice your fingers being closer together and more cramped or wider apart and to wide based on your hands and the comments I receive and my own use Hope that makes better sense
@sardaomalandraj6 күн бұрын
@@drjones694 thanks for such a complete response. So, the M Ultra I theory is a little bit smaller in terms of layout than the U? Closer to a Sanwa 24mm hitbox style than a Kitsune, for example? Thank you
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
If you have a Kitsune The T M Plus & U I would image are made to feel more like a Kitsune Large key caps all across and wide spacing all across The M Ultra is made for those that want a tighter feel and tighter spacing and smaller key caps all across except the bottom button
@FS-zt6tm7 күн бұрын
dang, I went with the grey m-lite and kind of regretting it with how good that gold looks. I like my gaming stuff low-key though so the grey might be better for my style. My S16 was a great gateway to the leverless style controller but I feel like it's time to upgrade to something of better quality. Had my eye on the M16 but the M-lite just came out and is a bit cheaper on aliexpress so I went with it instead. Glad to hear that the button layout is pretty similar to the S16 so adjusting to the M-lite should be seamless for me. Will be looking forward to your M-lite review and comparison to the S16, hopefully it comes out before I actually receive mine. Also, are you going to be testing the new shadow hunting switches?
@drjones6946 күн бұрын
Thanks much appreciated Yes the Shadow Hunting are really nice. I dont want to over hype it because if you only have 1 pad you wont notice But you have 2 pads. When you play on the Shadow Hunting for an hour and go back to the stock Reds / Crystals you will notice something is different or not as snappy as the Shadow Hunting or my other favorite switches links to everything in the description All switches are good but for my hands and play style GET THE SHADOW HUNTING if its in the budget lol Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@ab_ria7 күн бұрын
Love seeing these review videos. I got into hitbox/mixbox controllers a year ago when I got the G16 and been addicted to trying out controllers that have a similar setup. It'd be cool to see you do some gameplay testing in your review videos and would love to see you make a review on the Mustfun board, it's like the B16 except it has a clear acrylic shell!
@drjones6947 күн бұрын
@@ab_ria Nice !! I'll have to look into that pad and thanks for the feedback I'll try to add some gameplay in the future I'll look into that pad and vendor The market has grown so much in the past year I love to see where things are going Can't wait to see what 2025 has in store Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@HiTekNomaschenko8 күн бұрын
Can you do a live stream test of this controller please on PS5 for FPS games?
@drjones6948 күн бұрын
@@HiTekNomaschenko sure I can play some call of duty on it Good idea thanks Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@ShadowsCozyInn8 күн бұрын
9:29 - GOD SENT! TY!
@drjones6948 күн бұрын
@@ShadowsCozyInn Thanks much appreciated 🙏🏿 Glad it helped Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Chris_Da_Prince9 күн бұрын
That’s pretty cool! I was the Rajin Hwoarang player in all blue fighting you in the genmanji temple like a week ago. Nice feng player!
@drjones6949 күн бұрын
@@Chris_Da_Prince Thanks much appreciated 🙏🏾 GG.s Hopefully we play again in the future Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@firekungfuhero11509 күн бұрын
The nicest thing about the extender is that it can protect your converter from hitting anything if you have that on!
@drjones6949 күн бұрын
@@firekungfuhero1150 Facts!! this extender the CHEATBOX Footsie and the Heroic Designs all have their own characteristics that make them fun to use Or provide different features Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@bryanr1009 күн бұрын
That is...really cool, now if you have something like the brook wingman(or other adapters that arent as small as the booter 5 or magicboots) and you dont want it wobbling while you game, this might be a solution
@drjones6949 күн бұрын
@@bryanr100 Facts!!! That's a great point Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@LegendariTrini1110 күн бұрын
Hey bro..between the Guile Keys n the R16..which you prefer ?
@drjones69410 күн бұрын
Trini !! Going to brain dump on keyboard so here we go... lol The R16 started this design for most of us so I would imagine in 2025 their will be updates to the body / frame. The R16 Black is already showing updates to the frame but you cannot change the art work While Duelpad Zen and Guilekeys GK16 / 21 saw the flaws in the R16 thin frame and updated their design to be just as thin but more firm and sturdy using a firm wafer in the middle The R16 creaks more than the GuileKeys GK16 / 21 or Duelpad Zen but plays the same I added a piece of 2mm or 4 mm EVA foam on 1 of my R16's to test and it made a nice difference and if that matters to folks worried about creaking will help with that my nephew has had his R16 no updates since launch 6 months ago with no issues but something you will notice side by side in hand Spacing widest to tightest with rings U16 widest R16 next Guilekeys GK/GF 16 next Duelpad Zen tightest R16 has the left pinky that none of the others have if thats something your looking for GuileKeys and the Duelpad Zen have the built in menu button to change settings on the fly no one has and both have the updated lighting system with lights on the frame and lights on the button that the R16 doesnt have and are really nice features So which of the 3 is better R16 GuilKeys GK16 / 21 or Duelpad Zen None The R16 doesnt have as many features as it came out months before the GK and Zen But given they all have different layouts and spacing its a tough decision. If they all had the same layout and spacing then the Zen or GuilKeys would win just because they are updated versions of the R16 in features But the left pinky and spacing on the R16 is a pro to some or the menu settings on the fly, new light system,firmer build quality and tighter spacing on the GK and Zen are a pro to others that I get comments from Tough decision I know and A lot to read.. I know If you catch me on live on a Sunday I'll hold them up and show next to each other Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@LegendariTrini1110 күн бұрын
@drjones694 yeah I feel you with the R16 left pinky finger button..I use it for DR in Sf6 and triple Kick in X-men vs Street Fighter (Capcom Fighting Collection) I'm honestly thinking of getting the nee Victrix leverless but just wanted your thoughts on these here..thanks for your reply bro...blessed day
@CrueltyFreeD11 күн бұрын
Have you noticed a difference in latency when using it wireless?
@drjones69411 күн бұрын
@@CrueltyFreeD plays great from my testing Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@sardaomalandraj11 күн бұрын
Can anyone assist me on getting bottom measurements to produce a bottom foam padding? Thank you
@drjones69411 күн бұрын
@@sardaomalandraj you should be able to find them in mm on the website or discord Links to both in the description Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@Encurable12 күн бұрын
i have no clue but my hautepad just wont let me use RS or LS anymore, anyone know why or a full restet because it was working one day then the next day just changed
@drjones69412 күн бұрын
I would recommend Flash Nuke and Reinstall the latest firmware its easier than it sounds you will need a PC / Mac / Linux box Link below That should get you back up and running Also I have a link to their discord in my Haute42 videos There is a support channel not the general channel that always has people online that can help in a bind to support sometimes live support Hope it helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHa7h4lve5d8g8k
@Encurable12 күн бұрын
@@drjones694 yh I got it to work again after reinstalling the firmware. It's weird though because 3 days ago i was on the latest patch because I updated it the same day I got it. Guess a new update was out or something
@Encurable12 күн бұрын
@@drjones694 thanks for taking your time to respond though. and fast I appreciate it
@kisame00413 күн бұрын
This was my first leverless ever, it's great for the price and quality, I liked the buttons, they're very quiet with good sensitivity and decent hand space. Unfortunately I had to return it due to the arthritis in my left hand, it was just too painful for me to keep using it. My other small personal issue with this leverless is that on Tekken 8, I was not able to map the very top 3 directional buttons into actual attack input buttons instead, it would have made my finger placements way more comfortable due to how small and close the buttons are, but that's just me.
@drjones69413 күн бұрын
I'm sorry to hear about your hands I can imagine that was tough finding a good controller and having issues with your hands and having to send back You can RePinn the buttons in the web configurator and make custom layouts It comes default Left Down Right on the top right But you can remap those pins to whatever buttons you like I wish you sent this comment before you returned it You hold Start and connect to PC / Mac / Linux Go to Config > Pin Mapping You press the pin viewer button Then press the button you want to remap it will give you the pin number and you can set that button to whatever button or function you like then you save it and restart the controller to make custom layouts Hopefully you find another pad or controller or box that works better for your hands I can imagine the frustration Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@kisame00413 күн бұрын
@@drjones694 Thanks man! I actually purchased this because of your previous GK-16 review and I appreciate the button map info, hopefully others come across this, that have has the same issue as I did. After many controller reviews, I ended up getting the basic XBOX series X/S controller, it was a gamer changer for me, I switched from the PS5 pad for fighting games. Probably the best D-pad I've used, it gives me a precise directional clicky feeling like a 8 gate arcade stick and the mechanical buttons are very clicky and responsive compared to the PS5 mushy D-pad and buttons style. Plus it fits my hands like a glove. I still made sure to get that warranty tho, all pads crumble sooner or later pretty fast unlike sticks and leverless.
@drjones69413 күн бұрын
Here's another pad that was recommended last summer I have it but forgot I had it lol I havent had time to review it just yet but the price is really good and it comes with extra parts in case a part breaks. I bought it for $30 on AliExpress something that might help as well Original Betop BEITONG USB Wired Gamepad Arcade Fighting Joystick Game Control For Android TV/PC/ Steam,Street Fighter,Tekken 7 Color: C3 With silicone set s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_oBVpENT
@kisame00412 күн бұрын
@@drjones694 Oh wow thanks! I thought this pad was impossible to get, I heard nothing but praise of it, Im definitely got to get this. A review of this would continue to bring more eyes to it.
@ВоробьёваАлександра-е5ф14 күн бұрын
Will it work with iPad or android projector?
@drjones69414 күн бұрын
The firmware on this pad is GP2040 which most of the newer pads have been using lately. GP2040 DOES work on Android GP2040 on iOS (iPhone / iPad) I'm not sure I haven't tested that yet Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@twofu96714 күн бұрын
great video man! when comparing r16 vs u16, which one feels more sturdy to you? (ex. any creaking?, build quality)
@drjones69414 күн бұрын
R16 creeks more than the U but... R16 started this acrylic top ring attached to top design. As far as in my testing and what I've seen and as their 1st attempt in this design and coming to market 1st from my knowledge the creaking is a thing you will notice. But it plays fine and I prefer the R over the U because of the way I play and the materials each are made of. You can add a slice of adhesive EVA foam from Amazon $10 for a pack that will go away as it will support the base more keeping the thinner acrylic layers flat and together. The U is a plastic version of the R. No creaking wider button spacing, no left pinky but louder as made of plastic compared to acrylic wafers layered together. If your a masher when things get tough like me lol. You will feel the impact hitting the base more again because the plastic base is more firm than wafer layers. But in use the U feels sturdy and fine and like a controller if that makes sense and plays great. Both play great and have their own style. When it comes to other versions of the R. Now other vendors are making this same style they updated the creaking with firmer updated build. You would be looking at the Guilekeys GK-16 / GK-21 or the Duelpad Zen. Both feel very similar to the R16 with their own style and updated build quality. But remember these pads came out after the R16, same design style and similar layouts but they have a firm wafer in the middle that makes it not creak and feel more sturdy. I would not be surprised if the R16 v2 gets this internal wafer update in 2025 as the competition and things get more defined. My nephew liked the R16 when he saw it. I picked one up for him around June 2024. He is still using it in 2025 and has no issues. So long reply apologies typing on PC, I hope that makes sense and to answer your intial question :) R creaks more as it was the 1st to try this design. The U doesnt creak but is a different layout and if you mash will feel harder on impact when you hit it. Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@twofu96713 күн бұрын
@@drjones694 Thank you for the detailed response, it's reassuring that you can fix the r16 creaking. I love a sturdy build so I hope the u16 and r16 gets a thicker update this year. I'll stick to my AFS until the next lineup, I feel like they're so close to a slam dunk in terms of price + build quality
@AndreyOkhrimets14 күн бұрын
Thx for explaining bro. bought zen 16 after haute waiting it delivered
@drjones69414 күн бұрын
@@AndreyOkhrimets Thanks much appreciated 🙏🏿 Nice!! Glad it helped Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment