083 - Yugoslavia Joins the Axis Powers. and then they don’t - WW2 - March 28, 1941

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@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 4 жыл бұрын
NOTE BY INDY: I researched and wrote this episode in January. Since then I have done deep research on the fighting for Greece and Crete, as well as the Barbarossa planning. I can now say unequivocally that I do NOT believe the actions in Yugoslavia had anything to do with Hitler changing the start of Barbarossa. I hope everyone is doing well and staying safe in these tumultuous times. Indy was meant to fly back to Stockholm after a very full week of shooting, but hiss flight was changed to an earlier time (which they didn't tell him), so now he's 'stuck' in the studio in Bavaria. He hopes to be able to fly back soon, but until then we're writing and shooting a few more episodes for you. We hope we're able to bring you all some distraction, relief or perspective. Stay safe! Cheers, Joram *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban.
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 4 жыл бұрын
Poor man, stuck in Bavaria, what can he possibly do there ;-)
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 4 жыл бұрын
I havent watched it the episode yet, but why was the start date changed if not because of what happened in Yugoslavia? Ever since I read the rise and fall of the third reich I thought that was the case.
@QALibrary
@QALibrary 4 жыл бұрын
if I was Indy I would not go back to Sweden - looks like they total botching what going on in the world (ie everything open and people greatly infecting on another and no handwashing!!!!) and stay in Germany for a few week - well 6 months
@marks_sparks1
@marks_sparks1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Masada1911 because the Russian rivers and their flood plains in the Ukraine and Belorussian regions were still at Spring thaw levels and this left the ground unsuitable for fast armoured warfare. Hitler and the OKW staff planned for a June start date so as to allow the ground dry as much as possible. The Yugoslav and Greece campaigns had no bearing on the start date decision. Ref Hitler's War; Irving (1977)
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 4 жыл бұрын
marksandsparks1 I appreciate you taking the time to answer but I really don’t consider David Irving a credible source. However Ill look into what you say. Thanks so much. :-)
@andy_4966
@andy_4966 4 жыл бұрын
And here, We can see Hitler's subtle thinking regarding Yugoslavia. "I have decided to destroy Yugoslavia" Very subtle. 3:25
@lorenzodimaio6672
@lorenzodimaio6672 4 жыл бұрын
That "scene" couldn't have been scripted better!
@Porkeater2610957
@Porkeater2610957 4 жыл бұрын
Serbs proving once again to be the stupidest of Slavs, falling for British infiltration like that, which cost Serbs over one million Serbian lives, Serbs west of the Drina river reduced from being 1/3 of the population of CRO& B&H in 1941, to being 1/8 today.
@YAH2121
@YAH2121 4 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzodimaio6672 The joke was good, the delivery and timing could've been tweaked
@enderman_666
@enderman_666 4 жыл бұрын
Señor Donald Trumpez Serbs were a plurality in Bosnia up until the 70's, so we’ve got the communists to thank for that. And Serbs were never a third of the population in Croatia. We were a majority/plurality on nearly a third of the territory (Northern Dalmatia, Lika, Kordun, Banija, Eastern Slavonia and smaller parts of western Slavonia), but never more than 1/4th of the population. Sticking with the fascists would’ve saved us from the genocide in WW2, but the communist repercussions would’ve been far worse.
@bosanskislavonac
@bosanskislavonac 4 жыл бұрын
Why to bow to a Germans or Italians? Better to die fighting against this self called "master race"... Slav but not a slave!
@inxendere
@inxendere 4 жыл бұрын
"Did you destroy the Italian Navy?" "Yes" "What did it cost?" "Like 3 men and a plane"
@j.chiari
@j.chiari 4 жыл бұрын
It was certainly crippling, but was only 3 CAs in a large force
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm, check it again, it wasn't even close to be the italian Royal Navy, though of course it remained crippling and decisive event (the italian Royal Navy then would get basically destroyed later in the war). You don't have to pull stuff from your arse or forge happenings to grab likes.
@inxendere
@inxendere 4 жыл бұрын
@@dusk6159 LMAOOOOOO
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@inxendere Are you good my guy?
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Garratt They always need to be actually true and funny though
@perfectlyfine1675
@perfectlyfine1675 4 жыл бұрын
British: 3 casualties. Italians: 3300+ casualties. At this point even joking about Italian military incompetence feels wrong. It's just sad.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly Fine Standard issue when the enemy has carriers and you don’t (yes the night action was at close range, but that was set up by carrier attacks).
@rodrigomoreira1596
@rodrigomoreira1596 4 жыл бұрын
@@bkjeong4302 I feel like the lack of radar in italian ships is the biggest disavantage they have, they are fighting biplanes which can be dealth with with anti air machine guns present in their ships
@mutantmacrophage6653
@mutantmacrophage6653 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great example of how powerful technology can be. The Italians literally had no chance because they had no radar (only optics). They failed to see how important it was. Just like how when the Mongols under Genghis Khan & sons stole and incorporated Chinese siege technology they were able to conquer impenetrable Arab/Ismaili/Assassin fortresses.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Anderson Actually even with radar the Italians would still be at a massive disadvantage due to lack of carriers. Good luck attacking an enemy carrier that vastly outranges you.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 4 жыл бұрын
Mutant Macrophage Not as much of an issue as them not having carriers or night-fighting doctrine. (Compare with the Japanese, which did have radar but only on their newer capital ships, but still did better than the Italians because they had carriers and were trained to fight at night). Not having carriers is what put the Italians at a massive disadvantage, and the lack of night combat doctrine solidified it. They would have lost, radar or no radar.
@speedydb55
@speedydb55 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavian Coup: "No, we're not going to join the Axis!" Hitler: "So you have chosen death..."
@gintautassickus6390
@gintautassickus6390 4 жыл бұрын
3:17 I will now quote Adolf Hitler."I have decided to destroy Yugoslavia"
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 4 жыл бұрын
"It's treason...then."
@erikthomsen4768
@erikthomsen4768 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavian partisan: “Over my dead body.”
@dimitriosdrossidis9633
@dimitriosdrossidis9633 4 жыл бұрын
@@ghostrider.49 for one, it is stupid to assume, that you would have been save even If you accepted Hitlers request. Do you really think, that after italy and your other neighbours wanted territory from you that you could Just stay neutral? Let alone, that this was a possibility, considering how many neutral nations had been invaded already? Also, say what you want, but any yugoslav that opposed the Nazis, who btw. saw the Balkans as an inferior Race, was right and Just in opposing them. It is better to have suffered under the right decision, then to have prospered under the sacrifice of all human values! Oh and don't forget, the tension in Yugoslavia, would have happened in a form, even if you didn't deny the Axis requests. Wheter it be, because Bulgaria supported groups in north macedonia, croatian fascists who wanted Independence or some other foolish reason. You might have the luck of seeing things in hindsight, but don't think that cooperating with the fascists was ever a good thing!
@KiNGGAMESgr
@KiNGGAMESgr 4 жыл бұрын
glory * , not death
@lord_of_fhazard
@lord_of_fhazard 4 жыл бұрын
Germany: "So you're finally gonna join the Axis?" Yugoslavia: "Well yes, but actually no."
@eliegouttefarde2410
@eliegouttefarde2410 4 жыл бұрын
germany : Ok fine welcome !
@mnemonija
@mnemonija 4 жыл бұрын
@@eliegouttefarde2410 We really weren't motorized enough to go tell Hitler in Berlin what we thought, we needed them to come to us.
@p.s6742
@p.s6742 4 жыл бұрын
*Have I ever told you the theory of yes or no???*
@irishpoacher917
@irishpoacher917 4 жыл бұрын
Damn it! You beat me to it!
@Porkeater2610957
@Porkeater2610957 4 жыл бұрын
Serbs proving once again to be the stupidest of Slavs, falling for British infiltration like that, which cost Serbs over one million Serbian lives, Serbs west of the Drina river reduced from being 1/3 of the population of CRO& B&H in 1941, to being 1/8 today.
@ThePinkus
@ThePinkus 4 жыл бұрын
Indy: "...subtle nuances..." Me: "Mmm, even possible!?" a second later... LOL!
@cerealkiller7143
@cerealkiller7143 4 жыл бұрын
I did not wait to see the quote, I had already lost it when he said ''subtle nuances''.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 4 жыл бұрын
@@cerealkiller7143 Yeah, Hitler wasn't really a nuance kind of guy.
@bruhmoment8204
@bruhmoment8204 4 жыл бұрын
Paul: *makes Yugoslavia join the Axis powers* Peter II: “I’m going to do what’s called a pro gamer move”
@bruhmoment8204
@bruhmoment8204 4 жыл бұрын
Dejan/Дејан Kojić/Којић Fair enough, but he must have had to have had some British sympathies (which he did) to be put on the throne by the officers
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH 4 жыл бұрын
Peter II slept through the entire coup and woke up to hear on the radio "his own" proclamation in support of the coup which was read by a young naval officer who had a similar voice. And that was the first time he heard about it.
@zaikolebolsh5724
@zaikolebolsh5724 4 жыл бұрын
Young kings being used to justify coups, sounds almost like a tradition of monarchies as a whole
@Porkeater2610957
@Porkeater2610957 4 жыл бұрын
Serbs proving once again to be the stupidest of Slavs, falling for British infiltration like that, which cost Serbs over one million Serbian lives, Serbs west of the Drina river reduced from being 1/3 of the population of CRO& B&H in 1941, to being 1/8 today.
@eltoro10-v5t
@eltoro10-v5t 4 жыл бұрын
@@Porkeater2610957 Serbian Troll...
@Sweet_Pup_g
@Sweet_Pup_g 4 жыл бұрын
Go to Hitler quote: "I have decided to destroy [Insert Nation-State Name]."
@user-bz1od4yc5r
@user-bz1od4yc5r 4 жыл бұрын
"I have decided to destroy Germany." -Adolf Hitler, 1933
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-bz1od4yc5r "The German people have proved unworthy of my genius." (Thought process, c.April 1945)
@itsjustmint5211
@itsjustmint5211 4 жыл бұрын
“I have decided to destroy this mustache’s reputation” - Adolf Hitler, 1933
@cv4809
@cv4809 4 жыл бұрын
"I have decided to destroy the popularity of the name Adolf"- Adolf Hitler, 1945
@sohi7431
@sohi7431 4 жыл бұрын
"I have decided to destroy London" -Adolf Hitler, 1940
@thetsarofsalt2485
@thetsarofsalt2485 4 жыл бұрын
The Serbians always know how to make a grand entrance into world wars!
@wytebeats5030
@wytebeats5030 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahah so underrated comment xD but true indeed.
@georgefrancell5178
@georgefrancell5178 4 жыл бұрын
They know how to make grand exit's as well. "Oluja 95". ZDS
@wytebeats5030
@wytebeats5030 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgefrancell5178 what about Posavina 1992
@wytebeats5030
@wytebeats5030 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgefrancell5178 or cleaning rats on Kosovo since 98'
@georgefrancell5178
@georgefrancell5178 4 жыл бұрын
@@wytebeats5030 Elaborate.
@abdulmasaiev9024
@abdulmasaiev9024 4 жыл бұрын
"The Italians though have been making offensive moves of their own this week, at sea" - Huh, really? "W-well, trying to" - Ah, yes, there it is.
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 4 жыл бұрын
Poor chaps. They certainly were trying. Sometimes the war at sea has been scarce in this channel (understandably, with so much to cover) but the Italians managed to have their share of success at sea. The big picture was still against them, though.
@TheBreadB
@TheBreadB 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Hitler said the process of signing Yugoslavia's acceptance to the Tripartite Pact was like a funeral rather than a banquet.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
Probably they did not want to but signed as it was the pragmatic thing to do.
@vlrk.8211
@vlrk.8211 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnightofAges Ah yes, the famous lie that Britain paid for the coup. Do you by any chance remember a tiny little thing called The Great war prior to the events at hand? Do you by any chance remember that Serbians lost a 1/3 of its population fighting the enemy that now held an 'open hand of friendship'. The people are not fucking stupid, they knew Germans hated them and they hated Germans probably even more.
@jovangasovic8922
@jovangasovic8922 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnightofAges Lost in male populitaion from 18 to 55 years old in Serbia in First World War was 53%.
@vlrk.8211
@vlrk.8211 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnightofAges Streets were packed with people. Do you honestly believe an entire nation would side with the people who they fought against 20 years ago? From people who have done unspeakable crimes of humanity over them? They were obviously led by belief, not by what was strategically better at that point. Clearly might be hard for you to understand their actions, but we both know that they picked the right side and that's not because the Allies won, but Nazis were simply evil. Serbia had 4.3 milion people before the war, after the war ended they had 3 milion, you do the math. That's a fact, feel free to check up.
@sockaccount8116
@sockaccount8116 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnightofAges you doubt 1.4 Million Serbs were born in 4 years, but you don't doubt 2.4 million Serbs were born in 10 years? Maybe Serbs don't live only in between borders of what used to be Kingdom of Serbia in 1911, and you don't know to use stats (because territory changed in 1918)? Statista obviously did not count Serbs in Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo and Vojvodina in 1911, which were not a part of Kingdom of Serbia, and more people lived there than in the actual Kingdom. And Ferdinand deserved what he got, he could've picked some other vacation spot other than recently annexed Bosnia (out of which nearly the half of the population are Serbs), so fuck that guy
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia: what happens when the moral thing to do and the pragmatic thing to do are very far apart.
@overlord4404
@overlord4404 4 жыл бұрын
the thing is making the pact with axis would only delay the inevitable hitler wanted slavs dead or culled
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 4 жыл бұрын
@@overlord4404 They had no good moves to make in the moment, certainly.
@goranmarinic2923
@goranmarinic2923 4 жыл бұрын
@@overlord4404 That is absolutely right!
@photoshopschool9205
@photoshopschool9205 4 жыл бұрын
@@overlord4404 You've been indoctrinated well I see. Sincerely, from a fellow Slav.
@overlord4404
@overlord4404 4 жыл бұрын
@@photoshopschool9205 bwahahahahah ok then tell me what is general plan ost
@echo_9835
@echo_9835 4 жыл бұрын
Mustache man: "I am going to destroy Yugoslavia." Historians hundreds of years later: "What does it all mean?!"
@djuradjuric7161
@djuradjuric7161 4 жыл бұрын
@Chalk O'holic And yet the 40 years of communist rule was the best and most prosperous period the region has seen in its entire history. It's not a misguided dream when it was in fact a reality. The dream was crushed because few rich criminals decided to carve up the country and divide its people.
@sasacvetkovic6796
@sasacvetkovic6796 4 жыл бұрын
@Chalk O'holic just watch the movies on you tube: Weight of chains I, II and part III...
@djuradjuric7161
@djuradjuric7161 4 жыл бұрын
@Chalk O'holic False, communism brought development. Until then Yugoslavia was a poor peasant country with no industry or economy worthy of speaking about.
@djuradjuric7161
@djuradjuric7161 4 жыл бұрын
@Chalk O'holic I don't know man. Capitalism thrives only in places where there is a capitalist core, that is centre of accumulation of wealth which then gets redistributed by the government in order to bring its own development. In order for such accumulation to happen exploitation of lower developed but rich in resources countries needs to happen, these are called colonies. USA, because it didn't see conflict on its soil during ww2, could play that role for the entire West, but at the expense of Africa and South America. Socialist countries had to develop themselves by themselves because they practiced anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism, so you can't say for certain that if there was no the Socialist bloc against which Western capital unified itself against, that the same kind of development would've occured. History thought us, both through ww1 and ww2, that these capitalist nations in order to safeguard their interest would go to war if it was deemed necessary. I mean, just look at the our current political climate right now and the rising tensions between USA, EU, UK, Russia and China, who are all capitalist cores of our world. I'd sincerely recommend you actually read Marxist literature but I somehow believe that you think that it is beneath you. Either way, "Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism" explains exactly why capitalists global system must inevitably lead to economic crises and eventual conflicts between great powers. History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes, and a lot of things are rhyming right now with what happened in 1920-40 period.
@djuradjuric7161
@djuradjuric7161 4 жыл бұрын
@Chalk O'holic Haha, very funny. Christian fundamentalists and marxists are exactly the same because they read books and shit. Come on dude, I'm actually trying to be sincere on internet and you give me that bs? It's also Lenin, not Marx.
@KarlB591
@KarlB591 4 жыл бұрын
Plutonium eh? Probably just some scientific curiosity, doubt anything of note will come of it.
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 4 жыл бұрын
the're going to fade into history so hard, they should have named the element after themselves so they could be remembered
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 4 жыл бұрын
Atom baby, little atom bomb, I want her in my Wigwam, she's just the way I want her to be...a million times hotter than TNT!
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 4 жыл бұрын
Nagasaki gets a cold chill, for no apparent reason
@jeremysmith7176
@jeremysmith7176 4 жыл бұрын
It's only named after a planet named for a god of death. What could go wrong?
@thisnicklldo
@thisnicklldo 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, they've bumped a handful of neutrons into a few nuclei and detected a few atoms of a new element - hardly the basis of a realistic manufacturing method. It will be decades, if ever, before there's any quantity of this stuff on the planet. Seaborg should stop playing around with his zonked-out friends in California, and do something serious for the upcoming war effort - like concentrating on the realistic possibilities of acoustic plane detection systems.
@void_wyrm
@void_wyrm 4 жыл бұрын
People on Belgrade streets were yelling "Better war than a pact, better the grave than a slave", well mostly Serbs were yelling that. Really suprised that the comment sections isn't bad and not filled with arguments that have nothing to do with WW2 (*cough* 90's *cough*)
@peterjerman7549
@peterjerman7549 4 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair. The Kingdom was kind of united. However next week it will be a bloody comment section, as next wekk Croats and Macedonians betray their kinsmen, Serbian officers get drunk, while Slovenian soldiers die defending their country.
@gregorstamejcic2355
@gregorstamejcic2355 4 жыл бұрын
Vlade, I think every left-leaning yugoslav was chanting that. My granma (with her sisters and mum) did, and she was slovene. But of course ustasha and the like didn't.
@Gonzalouchikari
@Gonzalouchikari 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterjerman7549 when the ustacha come, the shitstorm will explote.
@peterjerman7549
@peterjerman7549 4 жыл бұрын
@@LoFiOAS1S it's recorded history mate. Btw communists organized anti-protests screaming "Long live Stalin and Hitler:
@LoFiOAS1S
@LoFiOAS1S 4 жыл бұрын
@@agandaur88 chetniks fought against ustashe idiot, but it is hard to explain to you when you do not know shit and learn from youtube and partisan media and books, so stfu
@paddywall8531
@paddywall8531 9 ай бұрын
subtle nuances of the coup... "I HAVE DECIDED TO DESTROY YUGOSLAVIA" Lmao great one.
@oneofmanyjames-es1643
@oneofmanyjames-es1643 4 жыл бұрын
"Alright, I'm heading out" I dunno about that Indy
@KIM-JONG-UN-84
@KIM-JONG-UN-84 4 жыл бұрын
One of Many James-es enemies!
@doudeau1988
@doudeau1988 4 жыл бұрын
If the Greeks ever doubt how much the Serbs love them, let them only remember what they did for them on the 28th of March. Still a better love story than Twilight!
@Arhiroukounas
@Arhiroukounas 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia had teritorial aspiratons in Northern Greece before WW2,a slogan used in the Yugoslav Army was ''As Mars Solun nas'' (or something like that,i don't know how the correct serbo-croatian spelling is) and ofcourse there is the creation of SFR Macedonia and the promotion of Macedonianism after WW2.But these fact were put under the carpet for various reasons,before WW2 because of Bulgarian irrederism,after WW2 because of the Cold War etc
@leksmanx1072
@leksmanx1072 4 жыл бұрын
@@Arhiroukounas We had no territorial aspirations in northern Greece.After WW2 as you probably know partisans with help of Soviet Union established a communist government.Tito created SFR Macedonia in hope that communists in Greece(after they win the war) would join Yugoslavia.Thankfully they lost.
@lorenzodimaio6672
@lorenzodimaio6672 4 жыл бұрын
@@dejankojic4293 Hitler could have taken Moscow already in september 1941, even starting in june 1941, but there was something called "Red Army" that blocked them and threatened its flanks in Ukraine. I'm not a soviet fanboy, just realistic. You should also remember that Hitler would have postponed the invasion due to bad weather in may 1941, the terrain was still not suitable for his motorized units, this way he would have lost momentum quicker than he would have if he started in june, when the climate had been good for several weeks.
@zorankonstantinovic3779
@zorankonstantinovic3779 4 жыл бұрын
@@Arhiroukounas - You are new born star of diabolic.
@lovablesnowman
@lovablesnowman 4 жыл бұрын
@Вишеслав. "western media" criticised you in the 90s because you were conducting a genocide...
@nickproduction5865
@nickproduction5865 4 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather fought in east Macedonia. When the Germans started pushing he went to hide in the forest and after 1 month he returned home. One day when he went on a train 2 people form KPJ (Communist party of Yugoslavia) called him to join the partisans and he joined. He fought the Germans for another 4 years and survived.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
A significant part of the Yugoslav army, though defeated, was not taken prisoner, and made it to the mountains, still carrying their weapons. This was part of the developing guerrilla nucleus.
@MacakPodSIjemom
@MacakPodSIjemom 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't he fight Bulgarians, actually? Because Macedonia was taken by them.
@nickproduction5865
@nickproduction5865 4 жыл бұрын
@@MacakPodSIjemom He fought mostly Germans because the part that he was defending was invaded by Germany but he fought the Bulgarians while he was a partisan. Edit: basically a German division
@MacakPodSIjemom
@MacakPodSIjemom 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickproduction5865 Well, anyway, one can never tell the story of WWII in Yugoslavia in few sentences, there were so many sides in this conflict. My grandfathers (both of them) fought as members of JVO (Yugoslav Army in Fatherland), and they fought Germans, Italians, Tito's Partizans, Albanian Ballists, Muslim militia… you name it...And most of those sides had no real ally, so everybody were for themselves, and often changed alliances.
@nickproduction5865
@nickproduction5865 4 жыл бұрын
@@MacakPodSIjemom That's true, well tribute to the ones that fought in WWII and lost thier lives on whichever side
@philipjooste9075
@philipjooste9075 4 жыл бұрын
Little known fact is that South African forces deployed their own locally-developed early warning radar system in East Africa in late-1940, (at least 12 months before the US had anything operational) and a further 3 along the Suez Canal during mid-1941.
@ZackMarrs556NAT0
@ZackMarrs556NAT0 4 жыл бұрын
Tag for info
@philipjooste9075
@philipjooste9075 4 жыл бұрын
@@ygma1460 Sure.There are many sources on-line - just search "Radar development in South Africa". To make a long story short, secret information about "R/DF" was given to all 4 Dominions shortly before the war since Britain was in no position to provide radar sets; and they were told to come up with their own solutions. Jan Smuts, prime minister and minister of defense of SA immediately saw the benefits and appointed a university professor who, in a matter of months delivered a prototype for testing. After some improvements, an operational system called "JB1" was sent to East Africa to provide early warning of Italian aerial attacks. Incidentally, South Africa deemed this so important that an entirely new branch of the military called the "SSS" (Special Signals Services) was established, separate of the army, air force or navy.
@philipjooste9075
@philipjooste9075 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZackMarrs556NAT0 The most recent from a magazine article: m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/sa-radar-sector-has-marked-a-major-milestone-in-its-history-2015-03-06-1/rep_id:4433
@jamieosullivan2684
@jamieosullivan2684 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the little countries out-develop the big boys
@BIGCAM5000
@BIGCAM5000 4 жыл бұрын
'The subtiles nuances' Outstanding once again. Thank you for the great content.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 4 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@febobebo9634
@febobebo9634 4 жыл бұрын
"Better the war than the pact, better the grave than a slave" "Bolje rat nego pakt, bolje grob nego rob." That pretty much tells you the mentality of the nation.
@UrosKovacevic91
@UrosKovacevic91 4 жыл бұрын
​@@KnightofAges Austro-Hungarians? Oh right, they love German boots, I forgot, its freedom to them.
@ViktorVilicic
@ViktorVilicic 4 жыл бұрын
@AmeriKa1050 You seemed like a reasonable, if ill-informed person in this debate up to this point, but outright denying the holocaust is unacceptable. I will remind you that this channel forbids holocaust denial, and if you continue with your position you will be reported.
@comradepatrick9167
@comradepatrick9167 4 жыл бұрын
@AmeriKa1050 oh i saw u on many videos before, you are fascist
@comradepatrick9167
@comradepatrick9167 4 жыл бұрын
I am from Serbia, and i HATE chetniks, i hate them to death, but i hate ustashe too. They are all fascist morons and they should be removed from Earth.
@vanjamenadzer
@vanjamenadzer 4 жыл бұрын
@Вишеслав. Why do you keep arguing with a persona that denies Jasenovac?
@jamesebola1250
@jamesebola1250 4 жыл бұрын
Smallest book ever written: "Italian heroes of WW II".
@Krustenkaese92
@Krustenkaese92 4 жыл бұрын
8:00 "The Italians have been making offensive moves of their own this week ... Well, trying to." might be the best TLDR for Italy during WW2
@lhaviland8602
@lhaviland8602 4 жыл бұрын
Wait for 43. They get WAY worse.
@SP-rt4ig
@SP-rt4ig 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, Serbia had suffered enough during the first war.
@emilianozapata2530
@emilianozapata2530 4 жыл бұрын
@Лука 310 preziveo bih i da me Zuhtijom zovu,medjutim ne znam da li bih mogao ziveti sa tolikom ljudskom glupscu 😆
@canthama2703
@canthama2703 4 жыл бұрын
What a freaking bad week for the axis...that naval battle was incredible. Thank you Indy and WWII crew.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting how a week-by-week perspective changes it. The overall tendency is to think the Germans had things all their own way until about December 1941, and the Japanese the same until mid-1942. Whereas week by week they both had things go wrong. It is also clear here that the Japanese were encountering frustration in their "China Incident". They had overrun much of China but were stuck in a war of attrition with long-term prospects poor. Probably one reason for the increasing role of the Japanese navy and a search for alternative targets.
@aspenlovelock8115
@aspenlovelock8115 4 жыл бұрын
Coup: * happens * Hitler: 🤔 I truely am stuck for ideas, whatever shall I do? Oh how difficult it is for me to decide.
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 жыл бұрын
The only causes worth fighting for are lost causes sometimes. Especially against unspeakable evil.
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 4 жыл бұрын
Hardly an apt parabole considering that just about 80% of Yugoslav resistance was focused on waging war against other ethnicities in the region rather than that "unspeakable evil".
@hanzup4117
@hanzup4117 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping up with the uploads whilst we're all in isolation. Love you, guys! Stay safe! Tom
@mrhippo6040
@mrhippo6040 4 жыл бұрын
Hitler: "i have decided to destroy yugoslavia" Yugoslav partisans:" so you have chosen... death"
@momcilogavric4930
@momcilogavric4930 4 жыл бұрын
😁😁
@arianmartic7965
@arianmartic7965 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much 😂
@mrhippo6040
@mrhippo6040 4 жыл бұрын
They liberated most of the country by themselves www.google.com/search?q=yugoslav+partisan+territory&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjryfb_sr3oAhWHtqQKHYTTBYoQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=yugoslav+partisan+territory&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIECCEQCjoECAAQEzoCCAA6BAgAEB46BAgeEApQ4xBY3DNgmzVoAHAAeACAAYADiAGOG5IBCDAuMTIuMi4zmAEAoAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=qmF_XuvMBYftkgWEp5fQCA&client=ms-android-samsung&prmd=ivn#imgrc=Z8g7A7LVuodVmM&imgdii=k5sFbMGH0riEyM
@ThrowawayModeller
@ThrowawayModeller 4 жыл бұрын
@@hatsuhioki9361 except the Yugoslav partisans are the only European partisan force which liberated their own country with very limited direct allied assistance
@mr.pickles6158
@mr.pickles6158 4 жыл бұрын
@@hatsuhioki9361 chetniks avoided fighting if not necessari, because they didn't want civilians to suffer more than necessary so they didn't attack Germans as much they went for ustashe and there flowers Muslims .
@christianlibertarian5488
@christianlibertarian5488 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being around at that time. The war has been going since 1939, but lately it has been an African war, and a stalemate in Greece. Really, at this time, small scale. One would have no idea that the colossal blood was in the future.
@Dustz92
@Dustz92 4 жыл бұрын
Well this is kinda the point were the thing starts to grow
@eesmaaura4961
@eesmaaura4961 4 жыл бұрын
@Nub93 which is why its infuriating when people try to revisionist WW2 as "Europe War" It was called World war for a reasons every continent in one way or another are effected in population and resource even South America.
@mnemonija
@mnemonija 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the French, Belgians, Dutch, Czechs and Polish are really enjoying it. Especially if they happen to be Jewish or Gypsy. Not to mention the Chinese in a desperate fight against the better armed and armored Japanese.
@Colonel_Blimp
@Colonel_Blimp 4 жыл бұрын
Christian Libertarian I assume from that comment that you are an American.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 4 жыл бұрын
@Großösterreichisches Reich Germany started bombing with Guernica. The rest of the world took notice. Japan was also indiscriminately bombing cities in China in the 1930s. The British actually held back from bombing German cities at first, not out of humanitarian concerns for German civilians but because they didn't want to provoke reprisals. Obviously that policy changed pretty quickly.
@Bullshlaha
@Bullshlaha 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy and World War Two crew! Over the past years I have suggested numerous improvements for this and The Great War channel, and I have seen you implement not just that, but more! It is really great to see you guys do all of this work, and now the statistics are also pumped to a new level. I just wanted to give you some feedback - the Italian naval battle statistics with present, lost and damaged vessels was great! It really helps to see exactly the impact of the British attack! I really loved the way you decided to ease our understanding.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 4 жыл бұрын
The Nigerians and crossing massive distances in little time, name a better duo.
@MikeJones-qn1gz
@MikeJones-qn1gz 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Baxter they know the way
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 4 жыл бұрын
Anakin Skywalker and Sand
@CovfefeDotard
@CovfefeDotard 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Jones Uganda 🇺🇬
@AlanDeAnda1
@AlanDeAnda1 4 жыл бұрын
Pancho Villa and Chihuahua
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
Covering impressive distances, with few if any vehicles, and I doubt whether there were good roads in that part of the world.
@glypnir
@glypnir 4 жыл бұрын
If you think of it as Serbia instead of Yugoslavia, the coup makes perfect sense. Especially if you reflect on World War 1. In general, a smaller nation that keeps getting taken over by large neighbors has disagreeable alternatives of resisting or collaboration. Also there are accusations that German versions of World War II are full of “they foolishly refused to surrender, so we were forced to attack them. Fortunately Germany seems to still remember the eventual consequences of attacking Serbia. For the record, I’m Anglo-Swabian. No Serbian ancestry that I know of.
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 4 жыл бұрын
9:58 that is a REALLY good diagram for battles!
@DrVictorVasconcelos
@DrVictorVasconcelos Жыл бұрын
FYI, deuterium (symbols: D, ²H or H²) is just a heavier hydrogen (¹H or H¹) due to an extra neutron. It features in D₂O, heavy water (which Indy mentioned during the B. of France). Note the difference in use of superscript (atomic mass) vs. subscript (quantity).
@prdude1234
@prdude1234 4 жыл бұрын
3:31 Hmm, very subtle indeed. I wonder what he means by that.
@nesa1126
@nesa1126 4 жыл бұрын
Just a little help for you Indy: Š in DuŠan is not pronounced as S, it is like Sh in Shon. All the best and thanks!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@albatros280
@albatros280 4 жыл бұрын
What does 'Shon' mean? xD
@nesa1126
@nesa1126 4 жыл бұрын
@@albatros280 It is name XD
@albatros280
@albatros280 4 жыл бұрын
@@nesa1126 Možda si mislio na Shawn ili Sean. 😆
@nesa1126
@nesa1126 4 жыл бұрын
@@albatros280 imas ime Shon www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/shon/
@umjackd
@umjackd 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the Italian Navy, at some point I'd love a special episode dedicated to the concept of "fleets in being." While naval battles are thrilling of course, I would love some attention to be thrown on how sometimes naval power is best used by not using it, and just tying down resources for "just in case it gets used."
@James-ip8xs
@James-ip8xs 4 жыл бұрын
Really like how you show zones of control, for example how Italy lost influence in the agean and Adriatic due to naval losses. Really helps to understand the constantly changing balance of power.
@THANAT0S_
@THANAT0S_ 3 жыл бұрын
12:41 Indy: an element has been called after Uranus Everyone: *WHEEZE*
@callmecait
@callmecait 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Not a single soul: Jens: Kermit Of Arabia
@pgtv14
@pgtv14 4 жыл бұрын
"Fine. I'll go, but I am NOT talking about politics." 3 beers later: 3:17
@joshuasharpe8047
@joshuasharpe8047 3 жыл бұрын
3:31 Me, after getting plastered on vodka
@merdiolu
@merdiolu 4 жыл бұрын
A few notes about Naval Battle of Cape Matapan (a battle I enjoy studying a lot since it was a classic battleship action supported by air assets) Italian Navy Commander in Chief Arturo Ricardo objected sailing against enemy due to lack of air cover for Italian Navy and lack of fuel for his ships. But under pressure from Berlin and from Mussolini and German promises of air support he agreed to go offensive against British shipping traffic in Eastern Mediterranean under Admiral Ricardo Iachino with Italian battleship Vittorio Veneto along with eight cruisers and twelve destroyers left Adriatic Sea on 26th. Royal Navy Mediterranean Fleet was actually warned that Italian Navy headed by battleship Vittorio Veneto would sortie on Allied troop transport route on Eastern Mediterranean and RN Mediterranean Fleet commander Admiral Admiral Cunningham (probably one of most resourceful and aggressive British admirals of his era whom one describe as "Nelsonian") itching for a fight , got early warning because RN Intelligence and ULTRA decryption of Italian wireless codes from Bletchley Park deduced Italian Navy sortie plan correctly. Cunningham tricked all Axis agents and Axis symphatising Japanese consultate in Alexandria by going to golf club in evening in sight of everyone then , getting out from backdoor , boarded to his flagship HMS Warspite and sailed to meet the incoming enemy fleet. When first cruisers of Rear Admiral Henry Pridlam Wippell's engaged with Italian battleship Vittoro Veneto and his battlegroup they did not suffer any damage but then Admiral Iachino's Italian fleet came under sustained air attack from no less than British aircraft carrier HMS Forbiddable (Cunningham was using RN tactic of "Find, Fix and Strike" He found the enemy and now fixing it by slowing down with carrier borne air attacks). Realising that enemy carriers are prowling his fleet Iachino turned his fleet to return to Italian mainland. But one Royal Navy Albacore torpedo bomber (a version of Swordfish) torpedoed Vittorio Veneto before shot down by AA fire and another Albacore torpedoed and damaged Italian heavy cruiser Pola. Vittorio Veneto was a fast battleship (Italian battleships were faster than their counterparts usually) and escaped but damaged heavy cruiser Pola with two other heavy cruisers Fiume and Zara along with three destroyers left behind as escorts. On night of 27-28 March , Cunningham's surface ships (three battleships HMS Queen Elizabeth , HMS Valiant and HMS Warspite plus five cruisers and nine destroyers approached left behind Italian ships at night and blasted them with aid of radar and night fighting tactics (which RN was throughly trained) Fiume and Zara were sunk under heavy gunfire of RN battleships. Pola was boarded by Royal Navy crews (who found the Italian heavy cruiser half deserted , Chinati bottles rolling everywhere. Most of remaining Italian crew had found officers liqour storage and in riotous mood) British boarding party captured important intelligence documents and materiel plus a few Breda AA guns onboard Pola then after everyone was evacuated from doomed Italian cruiser , Pola was sunk by torpedoes. Two more Italian destroyers were also sunk and third one escaped damaged by gunfire of British ships. All Luftwaffe air attacks on Cunninghams fleet failed (two German JU88 bombers shot down) Cunningham's fleet rescued and captured 1.000 Italian naval personnel from sea and then actually sent a radio message to Italian naval command to gather up remaining survivors and where they can be found then they returned to Alexandria unmolested. After the war Italian naval officers were annoyed that British actually used radar to track and attack their ships in night since according to their quote "Marconi had been an Italian" Cape Matapan had been worst Italian naval defeat in 20th Century. Italian Navy was not all demoralised but Italian performance in both Taranto attack and Naval Battle of Cape Matapan made Hitler and German High Command consider Italian Navy quite unreliable and useless from now on. This negative impression of Italian Navy would have fatal consequences for Axis invasion plans of Malta.
@gwtpictgwtpict4214
@gwtpictgwtpict4214 4 жыл бұрын
Minor correction, the Albacore wasn't a type of Swordfish, it was a separate design intended to replace the Swordfish.
@mutantmacrophage6653
@mutantmacrophage6653 4 жыл бұрын
You need to use way more paragraphs. Without paragraphs and line breaks it is quite difficult to read walls of text like this.
@merdiolu
@merdiolu 4 жыл бұрын
@@mutantmacrophage6653 OK I added some paragraphs
@mutantmacrophage6653
@mutantmacrophage6653 4 жыл бұрын
@@merdiolu Nice. The last paragraph is still too big in my opinion, but it looks much better.
@jamieosullivan2684
@jamieosullivan2684 4 жыл бұрын
Mutant Macrophage stfu
@csalerno7472
@csalerno7472 4 жыл бұрын
Eh Plutonium wont have any impact what so ever in the future.
@planescaped
@planescaped 4 жыл бұрын
Might be able to run my barbecue off it.
@thurin84
@thurin84 4 жыл бұрын
maybe they can use it to cook their catch after their next fission trip.
@kingusernamelxixthemagnificent
@kingusernamelxixthemagnificent 4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the leader of the Croats, Vladko Maček, actually joined the new government by Dušan Simović and he will refuse to accept to be the leader of the Axis puppet state. However, before the coup I believe he supported Yugoslavia's entry for the same reason Paul did.
@edwardgarea7650
@edwardgarea7650 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic site. Excellent history and a larger than life host who clearly knows his onions and informs us without crossing the lines and being obnoxious. And he’s not just covering the Yugoslav crisis, but also filling us in on what is going on elsewhere during that week. By the way, love the retro outfit.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for this comment! Made our day!
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 4 жыл бұрын
6:10 that might be a problem if Erwin "fighting is sure to result in victory so I must fight" Rommel decides to attack. Has the Australian division been given radios yet? or are they still using heliographs to warn of troop movements?
@attilakatona-bugner1140
@attilakatona-bugner1140 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, pigeons will do fine
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 4 жыл бұрын
@@attilakatona-bugner1140 Cpl Baldric: ''Dinner is served in the Officers Mess Tent , Gentlemen. Tonight we have Squab au Vin..."
@marmotman151
@marmotman151 4 жыл бұрын
Sun Tzu said that!
@docvideo93
@docvideo93 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia: We join the Axis Also Yugoslavia: No we won't Yugoslavia: Yes, we will! Also Yugoslavia: No, we won't! Hitler: I'm going to pull this car over and teach you a lesson!
@Blazo_Djurovic
@Blazo_Djurovic 4 жыл бұрын
Also, even if the pact held... I wouldn't hold out hope Yugoslavia won't have been partitioned or broken up regardless by it's "Allies" in order to feed their Axis Pact sempais. Plus Serbs were DEEEFINITELY on the Hitler's To Do LIST given what they did to Austria-Hungary during WWI no matter the pact. This just moved us to the top of the pile.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Silently puts gun on table: THE FATE OF YUGOSLAVIA
@Perebynis
@Perebynis 4 жыл бұрын
Hitler: "I´m going to destroy Poland." - "I´m going to destroy France." - "I´m going to destroy Great Britain." - "I´m going to destroy Soviet Union." - "I´m going to destroy Yugoslavia..." - What a strategically versatile chap he was.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
Not terribly constructive, was he?
@nickwilcox92
@nickwilcox92 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen this segment a bunch of times, but it gets me every time. "We can try and figure out, the subtle nuances, of his thinking, concerning the coup." "I have decided to destroy Yugoslavia."
@maciejniedzielski7496
@maciejniedzielski7496 4 жыл бұрын
Poland (west Slavs): We are very rebel against Nazi Germany Yougoslavie (south Slavs) : 02:19 Let us introduce our rébellion.
@whocares317
@whocares317 4 жыл бұрын
Russian View of the world : X Slav, China just Asian Slavs
@davethompson3326
@davethompson3326 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this fascinating coverage of the war in China, as well as the East African Campaign Despite a fair amount of reading Military History , I knew minimal amounts about either and am motivated to read a lot more The lack of general coverage of the latter is quite shocking given the enormous successes and was clearly motivated my "other factors" at the time Bloody well done to those Colonial troops for showing how to fight a war of manoeuvre
@kolomaznik333
@kolomaznik333 4 жыл бұрын
Small mistake: Peter II was already king since 1934 when his father was assassinated in France. But because he was minor, regent (unlce prince Paul, tho closest adult male-line relative) ruled in his name.
@Pt_Lacky
@Pt_Lacky 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine being an Italian sailor at night, and at 300 yards, you just see a searchlight and then a barrage of 15 inch shells is fired at you?
@VedranCro
@VedranCro 4 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that war between Japan and China was one sided in Japanese favor, but this weekly episodes changed my perception of that war theater. Thanks WW2 crew and Indy :)
@bingobongo1615
@bingobongo1615 4 жыл бұрын
Vedran Vrhovac Its s flaw in western history understanding. Japan is often portrayed as Nazi Germany in Asia which is complete bogus. Japan was a country torn by an ineffective government where half longed for peace and half wanted somekind of war to make the country stronger but there was never any clarity or plans on what to achieve. The only times Japan was effective where at the beginning of the war when everyone was in favor of punishing the Chinese and then after Pearl Harbor in taking the European and American colonies in Asia. In between and afterwards Japan had no clue what to do. Not even the ideology was coherent or strong enough (many Japanese even fought in the Chinese civil war on both sides after the war). So it was a completely chaotic system of conflicting interests(not wanting to go in the zaibatsu here as the third faction) that somehow fought wars they didnt believe in or had clear goals for. That doesnt excuse the many atrocities but comparing that to the single minded ruthlessness of Nazi Germany is insane.
@erich2432
@erich2432 3 жыл бұрын
Japan didn't really conquer China. They got bogged down and couldn't advance towards west. Even the official result is a stalemate. China actually did 30% of the job against Japan in Asian front.
@kslatter1168
@kslatter1168 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the ominous foreshadowing of the bomb.
@milos4616
@milos4616 4 жыл бұрын
Peter II is The King since 1934, the year his father was assassinated, hence Prince Paul was regent in 1941
@davidl2684
@davidl2684 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your work Indy and crew!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 4 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure! Cheers!
@laservision9754
@laservision9754 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of when the allies helped Poland and Finland... and then they didn’t
@stephen1137
@stephen1137 4 жыл бұрын
Because they couldn't.
@JoeSmith-sl9bq
@JoeSmith-sl9bq 4 жыл бұрын
Where did the Polish government in exile go when the abandoned their country? From where did the Polish army continue their fight against Germany?
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 4 жыл бұрын
@THE DARK SENATOR They went to war as promised, at great cost to themselves. That was meant to be a deterrent to the Germans, it just turned out Hitler was in irrational war-monger who couldn't be deterred any more than he could be appeased. And no one expected Poland to fall as quickly as it did - partly because no one outside the German and Soviet governments knew that the USSR was going to stab Poland in the back.
@JoeSmith-sl9bq
@JoeSmith-sl9bq 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnightofAges Exactly, and they were allowed to stay after the war.
@JoeSmith-sl9bq
@JoeSmith-sl9bq 4 жыл бұрын
@Puyuan Liu They were made into a Soviet client state, because the Soviets won the war and Britain was in no position to do anything about it. Did Poland go on a suicidal charge against Germany when it absorbed the Czech republic? Big nope, it even took some land from the Czechs. Nations have to think of themselves first and foremost, Britain committing suicide in a war against USSR would help no one.
@TR_Conqueror
@TR_Conqueror 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. One little and seemingly unimportant coup in Yugoslavia (which did not change the fate of Yugoslavia in the end) had saved Moscow later that year by delaying Operation Barbarossa unintentionally. Harsh winter settled in and allowed Soviets to take a huge breath. When you look back in the history and see how seemingly trivial events had caused huge differences in outcomes, it makes you think...
@stanabgd
@stanabgd 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually correct picture of 27.03.1941. coup in Belgrade. For me, as a Serb, it's not important if cuop had any effect on delaying "Barbarossa" or not, it's only important that Serbs said "No" to nazism and saved their honor. Big price is payed for that, but it was right thing to do, and, after all, it was par excellence serbian way!
@phoebecooper5558
@phoebecooper5558 4 жыл бұрын
Small side note. Part of HMS Valiant's crew at the Battle of Cape Matapan is a young Greece born Midshipman, the future Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell Ай бұрын
He mentions that in an older video
@corporalpunishment1133
@corporalpunishment1133 4 жыл бұрын
Chilling! Hearing the name Plutonium sends a shiver down my spine. Amazing channel!
@user-cs6bg4zp5q
@user-cs6bg4zp5q 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I have watched from your channel. It was very interesting in general and not to mention since my family and my people are from Yugoslavia. It hit a certain personal point. Yes we do not care we will revolt even if the entire planet is against us. It is the principle that matters. I have subscribed. When I get some free time I will start watching this whole series from the beginning. Well done mate. Amazing video! Keep up the great work!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to the channel
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 4 жыл бұрын
So here i am, part of the "Howd you comment before the episode released" club.
@spartacus-olsson
@spartacus-olsson 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! And thank you! Especially in these trying times.
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 4 жыл бұрын
@@spartacus-olsson Thanks. Ive been a patron for quite a while now since im finally making enough money to justify giving 3€ a month to a channel that cant rely on the already near nonexistant ad revenue of KZbin because KZbin seems to think that history shouldnt be talked about on its platform.
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 4 жыл бұрын
As a fellow member of the group and proud recipient of some of those comments, welcome to the Time Ghost Army
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, it really means a lot to us! (Capnazrael your next comment will be your 200th!)
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo You guys keep track of that? XD
@ivefabris7690
@ivefabris7690 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact regarding the battle of Cape Matapan. The heavy cruisers the Italians lost are all of the same class, there were five of them (Trieste, Trento, Pola, Fiume and Zara) all named after the cities Italy got after WW1 as reward for joining the Antante. In the battle they lost Pola, Fiume and Zara, the three cities/provinces Italy will lose after the war to Jugoslavia, while both Trento and Trieste survived the battle and both cities remained part of Italy,. Some will say destiny.
@mattosullivan9687
@mattosullivan9687 4 жыл бұрын
How about giving some folks credit for doing the right thing knowing they could die for it. Defying Hitler when you knew you were surrounded took guts
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 4 жыл бұрын
Hold on just a minute. Being politicians and army leaders, they were by far the least likely to die under Hilterite occupation. Ever since Poland it had been well known that it was the civilian who bore the brunt of everyday terror-the civilian who had no say in the matter to begin with. What they did was basically Lord Farquaad: "Some of you may fail but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to accept".
@mattosullivan9687
@mattosullivan9687 4 жыл бұрын
@@yarpen26 You make a fair point. However, Hitler took it really personally when defied and some really bad things happened to those how defied him
@HappyPuppy82
@HappyPuppy82 4 жыл бұрын
Guts we always had. Wits, not so much. On top of it - Germany did remember WWI and probably thought "Oh no you wont again..."
@gandhiindia1685
@gandhiindia1685 4 жыл бұрын
Only the leaders who would not fight on front line. The poor soldier who would gain nothing from winning ir losing. How can people not realise this. War only good for rich people and control freaks. Should of avoided the war in 1939 by giving Germany her lands back..
@richardlinter4111
@richardlinter4111 4 жыл бұрын
Plutonium's discovery was one thing, but the Frisch-Peierls memorandum of March 1940 was an even more significant milestone; it clarified that an airborne Uranium bomb was not merely feasible but more or less certain to work.
@creatoruser736
@creatoruser736 4 жыл бұрын
To elaborate on the "Hitler having to postpone the invasion of the Soviet Union in order to subdue Yugoslavia changed the outcome of the war" theory, he had already been considering delaying the invasion from May to June because the spring mud would have made rapid advancement more difficult, so a May invasion was infeasible anyhow. Even so, the Germans were too exhausted and overstretched to have taken Moscow by the end of the year. So none of this "one month early and the Soviet Union would have been defeated, but wasn't because of Yugoslavia" stuff.
@Southsideindy
@Southsideindy 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, read the pinned comment.
@eagletanker
@eagletanker 4 жыл бұрын
People useally forget that the muddy season is twice a year. I think if they went in May, the red army would be more disoriented, but would quickly regain their footing like we saw during the operation. I also think they would have gotten stopped farther from Moscow, Leningrad would have not been as strongly besieged, and Rostov on the don might have be reached.
@creatoruser736
@creatoruser736 4 жыл бұрын
@@ВукВуксановић No, it didn't. There was no possible way for the Germans to have taken Moscow in 1941. Reaching it and capturing it are two different things.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
@@eagletanker Weather in May can be unpredictable in European Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. People sometimes wonder why they jumped off on June 22, but Napoleon crossed the Niemen on June 24, 1812 when he invaded the Russian Empire. There may well have been climate reasons for him not going earlier. There was a substantial Polish contingent in his army which was more familiar with local conditions than the French were, and he may have acted on their advice.
@axchen
@axchen 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy, I've noticed thus far that while the inner workings of Germany and Britain have been talked about, and even China, not much has been talked about from the Japanese prospective, even though a lot of stuff has been going on behind the scenes. I want to recommend a great source to you, The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945 by John Toland. He goes into great depth on what is happening in Japan before and during the war, as well as their motivations as everything is from the Japanese prospective. It paints the picture of how the Japanese talk themselves into thinking they have no other choice but to attack the United States. It also talks a lot about the Japanese ambassador who signed the tripart pact and talked with Russia and his motivations. Matsuoka, the one who arranged a lot of this pre-war alliance, basically thought that he knew America, and that the only way to get the Americans to see you as equals was to give them a punch and show you are man enough, and that the pacts with Germany and Russia would also soften the US resolve against them; spoiler it did not.
@serbianbro5322
@serbianbro5322 4 жыл бұрын
"Bolje rat nego pakt Bolje grob nego rob"
@radicdenis
@radicdenis 4 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, it's what the Yugoslavian people were chanting during the coup and it means: "Better war then the pact Better grave then a slave"
@dinoslav9056
@dinoslav9056 4 жыл бұрын
haha Serb na bizantinskom jeziku znaci rob, serbulja je roboska obuca....lazete lazetee srbiiii
@radicdenis
@radicdenis 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinoslav9056 u Vizantiji su se govorili latinski i grcki, nisam siguran sta je "bizantinski" tako da ne znam ni nazive obuce. Pozdrav
@lakiog1938
@lakiog1938 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinoslav9056 a to ko te je lagao odma da ti da pare.
@RavenioTheHatamoto
@RavenioTheHatamoto 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, cracking the enemy cipher really gives a huge advantage.
@jackjordan3441
@jackjordan3441 4 жыл бұрын
You can thank the Poles for that. They captured the first Enigma device.
@Knihti1
@Knihti1 4 жыл бұрын
"It's old Austria-Hungarian imperial network..." So railway track gauges in Yugoslavia dont match either Austrian gauges or Hungarian gauges?
@medievalkotor4500
@medievalkotor4500 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia: Sometimes we are too few to win but never too few to fight!
@oskarrasmussen7137
@oskarrasmussen7137 4 жыл бұрын
Japan: Man, who knew that invading a nation that is vastly larger and more populous would be this difficult?
@cv4809
@cv4809 4 жыл бұрын
Also Japan: Lets start a new war with another country that is vastly larger, more populous and more industrialized
@oskarrasmussen7137
@oskarrasmussen7137 4 жыл бұрын
@@cv4809 Spoilers!
@kingsofserbiangameplay1623
@kingsofserbiangameplay1623 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia: I'll be your friend Germany: nice Yugoslavia: (coup) Germany: *bruh*
@WHickox83
@WHickox83 4 жыл бұрын
"...having spent the winter bombarding uranium with deuterons..." We all have our hobbies.
@rwh-fr4zs
@rwh-fr4zs 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you guys do entire one and two hour episodes. You're really good at documentaries.
@stevebarrett9357
@stevebarrett9357 4 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall, from watching your series on The Great War, that the Austro-Hungarian railways were a hodgepodge track gauges and rolling stock. It is my perception that this is pretty much the railway system that was inherited by Yugoslavia. If my memory is correct, I am wondering if there is any information about whether this hodgepodge was converted to a single gauge compatible with the rest of Europe between the wars? My inclination is to believe that only major arteries would have been converted if they were. Whether or not they were converted, I would think the Yugoslav railway network might have had difficulty supporting the logistical needs of the Wehrmacht even if the coup hadn't happened. As an aside, I hope everyone with the Timeghost team and their family and friends are successfully weathering the covid-19 storm.
@gardreropa
@gardreropa 4 жыл бұрын
I agree; I believe the Axis needing Yugoslavia to join them just for its railways (still shoddy, to use mild terms, in all the ex-Yu states in 2020) is a gross oversimplification by the TimeGhost team; at least we were taught when I was a kid growing up in Yugoslavia that Hitler wanted his Balkan rear secured before attacking the USSR so no British advances into the "Europe's soft underbelly" (Churchill) were feasible...
@geoffreylee5199
@geoffreylee5199 4 жыл бұрын
From sources used by The World at War in the Imperial War Museum, Barbarossa was to happen in early May. This action delayed the start of that operation to the end of June, too many weeks later. Good clip.
@xaviersaavedra7442
@xaviersaavedra7442 4 жыл бұрын
“A COUP ON THE DAY OF THE TREATY SIGNING?”
@LeutnantJoker
@LeutnantJoker 4 жыл бұрын
I've read more recent historian oppinions that the weather which was non-optimal for air operations in Mai, an delays in refitting outfitting the troops , especially the newly created Panzer Divisions, were more of a reason for the delay until June than the Yugoslavian operation. 2nd Army was doing most of the heavy lifting on that, and it was not involved in the opening stages of Barbarossa, only arrived later in time for the battle of Kiew.
@baseddepartment285
@baseddepartment285 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone who reads this comment keep in mind that Germans and Italians sent 100,000+ troops to Yugoslavia in 1941-1944 to fight against partisan
@draganmarkovic491
@draganmarkovic491 4 жыл бұрын
Not only partisan ...
@baseddepartment285
@baseddepartment285 4 жыл бұрын
@@draganmarkovic491 sorry I don't know how I forgot them
@michaelvoorhees5053
@michaelvoorhees5053 4 жыл бұрын
Germans had small garrisons in Yugoslavia until the Red Army came in 44
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
Tito's Partisans were the only guerrilla force significant enough to be regularly mentioned during Hitler's daily situation briefings. Other guerrilla and partisan forces were mentioned but only during unusually high periods of activity.
@markoskejic5028
@markoskejic5028 4 жыл бұрын
Chetnics were fascists aswell.In that time they were burning my grandfather's villags here in Dalmatia,Croatia..
@bgdancer100
@bgdancer100 2 жыл бұрын
Indy: "The Italians, though, have been making offensive moves of their own this week at sea." Admiral Andrew B. Cunningham: "And I took that personally."
@ThrowawayModeller
@ThrowawayModeller 4 жыл бұрын
So, it begins. Yugoslavia is the headline of the video. I hope the WW2 team is ready for the biggest comment section offensive. Expect fierce comments from ALL sides and many of them. Keep a level head and I wish you the best of luck o7
@coolmkdmacedonia
@coolmkdmacedonia 4 жыл бұрын
Hitler: i have decided to destroy Yugoslavia. Tito: hold my Cohiba Esplandidos
@Mitchmeow
@Mitchmeow 4 жыл бұрын
They named their new element after that new rock floating around way out in space, thus naming their new nuclear bomb ingredient after the god of the underworld. How bout that
@frankwhite3406
@frankwhite3406 4 жыл бұрын
A most interesting episode indeed. The Italian Fleet were at a huge disadvantage Not having Radar fitted to their Vessels particularly in night engagements at this time of the War with the RN.
@draganmarkovic491
@draganmarkovic491 4 жыл бұрын
Better war thаn pact,better grave than slave!
@kamilkrupinski1793
@kamilkrupinski1793 4 жыл бұрын
I feel you. I`m from Poland.
@rruizanimations1
@rruizanimations1 4 жыл бұрын
Than*
@draganmarkovic491
@draganmarkovic491 4 жыл бұрын
@magicblanket I don't think it really changed anything, common people was really against that pact, Hitler really hated Slavs and Serbs especially, because of Gavrilo Princip, his allies in Croatia wanted to kill Serbian population, I feel like in that stage everything was allredy set... I think that organizers of a coup didn't expect that Paul will sign that agreement because they have said that if he signs it they will execute a coup. There is a quote from Vladko Macek who said that that coup was the only coup in history which was announced and later executed... And when you say coup it sounds scary but in that coup only one person died and it was by accident...
@eltoro10-v5t
@eltoro10-v5t 4 жыл бұрын
What about nazi puppet Nedic's Servia?
@draganmarkovic491
@draganmarkovic491 4 жыл бұрын
@magicblanket Yes but there would be uprising in Yugoslavia anyway, maybe chetniks wouldn't revolt but even that is debatable but communist would. It is hard to compare Italy or Hungary with Serbia or Yugoslavia, they didn't have sense of loyalty towards the allies like Serbia did nor they had that level of distrust with Germans.... For sure it was smarter for Serbs to join the Axis but it was pretty unrealistic...
@ChallisVenstra
@ChallisVenstra 4 жыл бұрын
Very foreboding Indy. You really know how to set that hook. Love every second of it.
@alcaulique8358
@alcaulique8358 4 жыл бұрын
I find the behind-the-scenes fight for the atomic bomb between axis and allies to be very interesting. It defines the world we lived in after the war. Plus there is a lot of fantasy about the state of German's research. I would find a mini-series (like you've done about nazi on crack) about this topic most interesting.
@johanneshstrup4898
@johanneshstrup4898 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Hard work you put into these videos!
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding 4 жыл бұрын
Yuguslavia: I am joining the axis. 2 days later. Yuguslavia: I am leaving the axis. A few days later Yuguslavia: I am being invaded by the axis.
@baa0325
@baa0325 4 жыл бұрын
10 days later still: can I get a mulligan on that?
@davidrodriguezgonzalez3938
@davidrodriguezgonzalez3938 4 жыл бұрын
12:37: "back in 1789 a element was named after uranus" Indy absolutelly killed me with that
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 4 жыл бұрын
In the Battle of Cape Matapan, the british battleships got to point blank range and then all at once turned on there searchlights (prince Philip being one of the searchlight operators on the battleship Valiant) and within three minutes 2 cruisers had been destroyed. Really showing the advantage radar poses at this time.
@stc3145
@stc3145 4 жыл бұрын
They were only like 7-9 Kilometers away. That battle was a turkey shoot for the British
@shaniamonde7341
@shaniamonde7341 4 жыл бұрын
I have heard tales that someone had 'forgotten' to tell HMS Formidable (the carrier) to leave the line of battle before this, and she ended up using her 4.5" dp guns in direct fire against the cruisers... before someone noticed and ordered her to retreat! Not entirely sure how true this is, but it certainly fits the 'glorious cock-up' style of the RN :)
@josephbischoff2469
@josephbischoff2469 4 жыл бұрын
The Keren Road asked for the manager of the 5th Indian division, "Are you attacking me?" I'm dead laughing.
@lenini056
@lenini056 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no, it's the balkans!!! *sounds air raid alarm*
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