$1,000,000,000 Game That No One Has Ever Played

I just don't get it, this is what is considered super hype gameplay reveals in the play to earn/crypto/nft gaming space. A pre-rendered trailer and it has people trading a token for $1000 each with a market cap in the hundreds of millions.
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[@MarkM430]

Pre-rendered footage is today's version of the box art of games in the 80's. Market the fantasy, not the game. Beer has been doing it for years in advertising.

[@gamerguys392]

Atleast i get something from beer, a buzz, relaxation. Not to mention something tasty to drink

[@oxymoron02]

Pre-rendered footage is also today's version of pre-rendered footage in the 90s.

[@origamisteve]

Yep Beer is pure garbage.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

See Atari 2600. Superman is about a dozen square pixels, including the cape. Dragon is a pixelated duck.

[@olddrunkbastard1825]

@@origamisteve sorry to hear you've been drinking piss bro

[@Coffeepotion]

This looks to be an auto battler where you pitch your NFTs against each other. Probably 100% pay2win and barebones in terms of features.

[@ashwinnmyburgh9364]

This is 100% what I expect of NFT/Crypto games. They will all suck, if they ever get released.

[@JoshuaSouthgate]

Human evolution led to this lmao

[@KaijuAKD]

Looks like "Pokemon NFT"

[@edredrhg6910]

@@JoshuaSouthgate yeah, this could be the part that fails to survive

[@mitrovarr]

That's exactly what I was thinking. There's clearly "gameplay" (in the largest quotes I can possible imagine) in those videos, but there is no player interaction. The camera movement isn't suitable for player control and there isn't a menu up, so there's no way the player is controlling anything. It's clearly an auto-battler. The graphics are nice, but it's a pointless waste of any talent anyone's putting in to the project.

[@Velarieth]

"In most of these crypto games, the majority of people don't care about the game. They see it as a vehicle to make money. They don't care if it comes out. They don't care if it's good. So long as the token 'moons.' And that's why this industry is an absolute joke to me at the moment." Perfect summary.

[@bradbecker8982]

So instead of bashing the idea of blockchain gaming due to the lame opinions of the majority, it’s probably best to be objective and look at the full impact. More money can be made off of a fun game. Blockchain gaming companies have massive incentive to put out polished and enjoyable games. Let’s wait and see.

[@bradbecker8982]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 EA has to pay a lot less employees to do physical jobs if they utilize a “DAO” token model.. and they’ll have to chase demand in order to stay competitive. If people want to be able to buy groceries with the things they earn while playing games, and I think they will, EA will have to adapt and stay state of the art. People will want gaming to be more fulfilling, especially the competitive gamers imo. I wish I could have sold many of the BoE items I gained from rare MMO’s drops over the years. Would’ve been nice to have the option for all my hours grinding to actually be able to pay for my life to a degree. Seems like this will bring more people into gaming and grow the audience overall. Many adults refuse to game because it seems like a waste of time, but I think blockchain solves that.

[@bradbecker8982]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 we will see, the market (and regulators) will decide. Take care

[@TheGoreforce]

my father during thanks giving, I gave him that warning, and to make sure they are short term investments. Though he turned 60% on these investments.

[@zodiarkful]

@@bradbecker8982 normal game companies have the same incentive because more people that plays more money you make, and yet... here we are... unfinished/unpolished games at launch, more money in advertising than in the game itself, pay2win absolute trash, etc...

[@lesarch]

“OMG, did anyone say “crypto”??? I MUST HYPE THIS.” Anything with crypto has just become hype to the point of looking insane. An insane cult.

[@scartissuefilms]

You're in the cult. They've broken out. That's the difference.

[@Sorrowdusk]

@@scartissuefilms Cult of the Unbelievers

[@Thor-Orion]

The cult of the hype beast.

[@franciscoramos2365]

@@DanielDroegeShow ohhh people getting payed for working playing crap games, to receive 10% of what they produces from speculation and making the owner of a digital coin Very rich, they must be so smart by being on the most obvious pyramid scheme.

[@franciscoramos2365]

@@DanielDroegeShow the player are not, the players are the base, the developer try to Control the coin price and How much you van earn because printing money only makes inflation and that Will Destroy the coin value, i dont hate these games and dont hate the piramyd scheme i Just enjoying It in others layers of the piramyd, i dont play the games but i but the coin in the begining If the price goes up its a Win If the game flop Sad day but until now its a 4/2. Now i Will give you advice If you start to turn your hobbies and things you do to have Fun in work these things start to lose mean and turn then in nosense .

[@maxposti3540]

7:38 You question their competence but not only did they manage to revive one of the greatest mathematicians of all time, they made him art director!

[@halogamers18]

Grant Warwick.

[@thehappypittie]

L0L! i came to the comments to see if anyone else noticed Von Neumann there too

[@asdfghjkl900321]

It's almost like these scammers are taunting the gullible people out there for amusment or to see how far they can go. There was another nft play to earn prject where one of the developers was literally Ryan Reynolds with his name and actual photo among the developers.

[@dinorahbarbosa3927]

Lmaooo von neumann?

[@JimberinoILV]

@@asdfghjkl900321 Genuinely curious how you feel now that you were proven wrong and all that's left to release is the open beta? I mean the game is pretty much finished at this point and while it's not amazing it's not terrible and I don't see how it was a scam or deceptive etc?

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

As an update, the coin is currently worth $39 in 2023 (from over $1000 in 2021)

[@MouseSPAL]

I think we're in the honeymoon phase of crypto games. It's like when games started getting crowdfunded and anything with a pulse and a sandbox survival aspect could get funded.

[@kayshinonome535]

Earth2 doesn't even have a pulse

[@Turano71]

crypto games/coins are all scams and only the gullible will buy/play these games and coins

[@smatchimo645]

i think you're living in your own little universe, normal people don't play this trash :D

[@MouseSPAL]

@@smatchimo645 A lot of it is trash. The big problem is that crypto games don't know how to monetize themselves. Take for example the Play-2-Earn moniker that so many are quick to slap on their game. It makes no sense because there are going to be 2 groups of people, the investors and the players. Investors boost the economy of the game by bidding up the price of NFT's and the coin behind the game, while the majority of players, especially those from low income countries, will invest nothing into the game and only take value out of the game by grinding currency and then selling it. Crypto games really should have started at the simplest point with a normal game, and skins/equipment that can be bought and sold for crypto. Instead so many of them focus on over complicated economies that don't cover up the fact that the gameplay is lackluster.

[@TheJimmyCartel]

Yup, peak play-to-earn degen shit 6 months ago when you left this comment

[@lycrus8515]

I absolutely love the pre-existing footsteps the character steps into when walking on the sand. Such trailers have such obvious signs of being absolute amateur work, and people don't realize it. It is actually quite remarkable how exploitable illusions of people are and how much money you can make from that

[@kwisclubta7175]

No, no, you don't understand! The existing footsteps are actually a symbol of predeterminism, which is a major theme in the game's story, probably 🤣

[@lycrus8515]

@@kwisclubta7175... I fear that there are people out there who would actually defend it exactly like you just stated. That.. that scares me :D

[@Sabamonster]

As an artist and human being I am ashamed to admit that I didn't even notice the pre-rendered footsteps prior to reading your comment. Not that It makes any kind of difference to enormous red flags I'm already seeing mind you, but still. Good eye.

[@NaudVanDalen]

One detail is wrong = even a child could make it.

[@jagodaduda2976]

@@NaudVanDalen It's hardly just one detail that's wrong here.

[@christianstonecipher1547]

I love how one of the listed Co-Founders is someone who died in 1957 (at 7:37). Von Neumann was an influential mathematician who worked on the Manhattan project and started field of cellular automata to name a few of his many exploits. Admittedly, the twitter link takes you to Grant Warwick who is the actual art director but I just find it strange that they would make it so obtuse to find the actual name of their art director to the point of impersonating a famous mathematician.

[@EU-Cyan]

I was about to say, I can't be the only one who fucking saw that xD

[@lucasmartins2969]

These people dont want a game, they want the new bitcoin to expeculate on and try to make money over nothing, and the fact that they are trying to get into the game industry is annoying and frustrating

[@Diverscody]

I see your point and everyone in this comment section and it really is sad that the majority is just in it for the next meme coin to go to mars. Im not invested in this game but the other side of me really wants a game like this to actually deliver one of these days. It really would be a dream come true to be able to actually have ownership of skins, gear and other assets in a game with real value and a market place ran by the players. Ive spent loads of money on in game purchases in the past whether it be clash of clans, hearthstone, or buying loot crates knowing in the end that i will never see that money again.

[@GirlfightClub]

@@Diverscody you seriously don’t think this is a real game? 🧐🤨🤣 wow

[@BigHalfSteps]

@@Diverscody You're delusional if you think you can put stock market in a game. If the game is not about gaming/playing and having fun, it will turn into bunch of people trying to pull the strings in the background and decide what goes ham and what goes bam. You literally want a game where people take other peoples money. Ownership of games belong to the Publisher, and the Publisher wants to earn money. Giving it to people only allows unresponsible people to rule over others. Dont spend money if you think it's wasted, because the Publishers would do ANYTHING to make the price go up so you pay more for things you desperately want. Sounds like stock market? Because it is. Monopoly kind of. And you just want one bad thing exchanged for another bad thing.

[@tymaguire4175]

@@BigHalfSteps you have no idea what you are talking about. So many dumb people it's so funny to read how behind people Im the revolution of crypto. It's sad you don't see the potential of what's coming maybe one day you'll come around

[@jonathansoko1085]

@@Diverscody What you state as things that would be a dream come true, are the exact thing i dont want. We all know where this is going, and its in the dumpster fast. This cant work, itl always be fringe.

[@minkailulamin1304]

I’m so tired of crypto games and I have not even played one yet.

[@thewhatwhat12333]

why would you want to

[@scartissuefilms]

I'd recommend experiencing and understanding things in life, then making your own judgement rather than letting other people decide what's good and what's not.

[@Stalkerfan498]

@@scartissuefilms Implying any life experience at all would not scream that these things are massive scams

[@minkailulamin1304]

@@scartissuefilms Not sure what life experience has to do with judging games that look extremely bland, unfinished and borderline scammy.The only thing these games got going for them is “play as you earn crypto” and quite frankly I personally just want to play games for fun. Cheers.

[@danver8433]

Crypto gaming is like the new cancerous trend like zombies and battle royals

[@AlLarabie]

HAHAHAHA.... The photo of the Von Neumann guy is John Von Neumann, a Hungarian-American mathematician, who dies in 1953... Co-founder and Art Director eh!?!?!? Nice to see they're employing Ghosts... LOL

[@truckerallikatuk]

You gotta admit, his pay requirements fit right in with what they wanted to pay.

[@beek-art]

Nah, its Grant Warwick .. the founders are Kieran Warwick, Aaron Warwick and Grant Warwick.. do a bit more research u might get a bit better informed than just watching another ill informed person make a video about it.

[@schmdchrs]

I mean, he wanted to remain anonymous for a while. But it's Grant Warwick.

[@Morphologicallyy]

@@beek-art how about you go on the website and check yourself? There is no Gran Warwick shown as the co-founder but John Von Neumann, Al Larabie is right and you are wrong, which is funny since you acted oh so smart and informed

[@shabimtwitchtv4861]

@@Morphologicallyy He revealed himself not too long ago. The website is yet to be updated :) Von Neuman is Grant Warwick, one of the best CGI artist in the world and a brother to the two co-founders. Come to our discord we will answer any questions you guys might have.

[@xXbaker1025Xx]

As [hopefully] everyone knows, there are no "devs" in these projects with real experience since the leads/founders aren't looking to create a product, they're just trying to make a quick buck

[@JimberinoILV]

Genuinely curious on what your thoughts are now that most of the game is out and the full game launches in late June?

[@TheJungaBoon]

The only thing I expect from a game is to be fun for a brief moment in my life. No amount of cryptocurrency can ever amount to the feeling of hanging out with some friends over some pizzas while we play some games on a Friday afternoon. And at the end of the day, that's what it's about. That human connection that the metaverse seeks to eradicate.

[@FoxyCAMTV]

Games are just like any other hobby where you spend some time on them.I play games every day but not all day.

[@JimberinoILV]

Illuvium isn't a play to earn game it's a win to earn game. There's quite a difference because one is sustainable the other is a ponzi scheme.

[@Rorther]

If most people play a game just to "earn money", not to "have fun" it's a fail as a game. And won't last long. Companies limit the supply, so price can rise up, and they sell it on the market and profit, so price is still high, and rising. Market cap, is often a lie, and doesn't represent the real value of it. But it hypes people.

[@tubularmonkeymaniac]

Games are made to entertain and make money as a consequence. The idea that you can create a game without having fun as the core tenet has already failed. 99% of the support crypto games enjoy is confirmation bias for people hoping to make money.

[@andresk4694]

I disagree, nonetheless a p2e game will then fail as soon as you don't earn from it (because who is insane enough to play a boring game that earns you no money). The preceeding is why a lot have done poorly lately, but at the same time many stay afloat because of investors who are stuck with NFTs they hope will rise in value again at some point.

[@blackroberts6290]

@@andresk4694 there is a 'bias' about that where someone wont care about the dirt a **game** had because it **might** be a success

[@halogamers18]

@@andresk4694 Illuvium won't be axie...you basically just described axie lol. Illuvium isn't even being made with earning as the core tenant either. If you all joined the discord and asked around and such you'd at least know that, minimum.

[@gerbo8018]

@@halogamers18 so we need to go search every corner to find shit out ? damn their marketing is bad.

[@mbarker_lng]

Its really amazing what a few artists can now achieve with rendered cut scenes. When I first got into games, there were still text-adventures in the bargain bins :| Anyhow, you are right- very little of this appears to be actual gameplay. Even the 'arena' could just be a render- some of the characters are just standing still in an animation loop.

[@Valkier_Kato]

Zork was one of my first introductions to gaming. I miss text adventures.

[@Siegmernes]

Text adventures are still around. They've mostly moved to mobile. Stuff like "Life in adventure" "The great tournament" a lot of the "Desire games" or "Choice of Games" and my favorite "Magium" On PC I can recommend the "Sorcery!" series and above all "Warsim: The Realm of Aslona"

[@joostdriesens3984]

I'm 100% sure the arena thing was not gameplay but just a renderend cut scence, an impression of the game would look like.

[@studiesinflux1304]

3:02 I still don't get the 100% pre-rendered averts... if I want a whole experience of pre-rendered graphics and curated audio, I'd watch a movie.

[@kwisclubta7175]

I'm with you all the way. That being said, there aren't enough good CGI movies out there. I wish we could get more serious animated movies. The kids movies are great- I love watching them with my daughter and nieces and nephews- but what if instead of yet another attempted live-action Dune, they did a big-budget animated film? I digress.

[@hanszieten6288]

Yeah man, It even annoys me on steam when you’re browsing the store. You click on something thinking you’ve got some amazing 3d space game and then when you finally find the gameplay, it’s some lame top down mobile game or something.

[@kwisclubta7175]

@voltaicbore03 I haven't actually seen the movie yet; I'm waiting for it to release on Blu-ray. I read all the books and, considering the difficulty others have had bringing it to the screen over the years, it seems like it would have been the perfect candidate for an animated film. I'm thinking of rare movies like 9 that are computer animated but intended for a more mature audience. I hope we see more of that in the future. But yeah, I'm excited to see the movie and it's a challenge to not give in and watch it in shitty 1080p on HBO Max. I've been waiting a long time for it and I'm not about to spoil the experience.

[@kwisclubta7175]

@@hanszieten6288 What, do you not have a phone?

[@schmdchrs]

The game is an autobattler like TeamFightTactics and the like, so all the battle board stuff you were watching IS what the game will look like as the battles are essentially pre-determined once the "draft" is over and the board is set.

[@Dubstepconcept]

Trying to win an argument with a smart person is difficult, trying to win one with an idiot is next to impossible. I’m picking up what you’re putting down my dude, thanks again for the quality content. Cheers!

[@lairizzle]

Do not have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

[@Evermore098]

sometimes fans for nft and crypto remind me of Flat Earthers....Just give up trying to explain anything

[@Insan3Mach1ne]

its like the patrick and man ray meme

[@andresk4694]

Meh

[@scartissuefilms]

@@Evermore098 It's the other way round. It's not the crypto people that are losing here, it's you. You're the one getting scammed, but you just don't realise it.

[@madmartigan9720]

Gather influencers in a group that will buy in early, hype up the price and proft at the end. It's nothing new in crypto world.

[@LunaPPK]

Yeeep

[@GreatGodSajuuk]

@@zeening These dipshits just rebranded casinos (except with no regulation) and then they go about spewing bullshit about how this is "the future". And it's a perfect scheme because people that buy in are either dumb marks who have no idea what's going on or assholes who prey on them, neither will stop shilling it because they either don't know any better or it would hurt their bottom line.

[@thebattlebro3090]

Honestly from the trailer, looks like a spiritual successor to spectrobes' combat. Given how hungry people are for that archetype to be resurrected, I can't blame them for ravenous hype despite the low chance of a proper delivery and decent product.

[@linkesocke4533]

I don't think people are hyping this for the gameplay. They are certainly hyping it for the crypto stuff. I don't know that game you mentioned. To me it looks like a mix of Pokemon and Anthem. I'm sure there is a market for that, but the crypto stuff may hurt the game more than it helps because of the bad rep crypto/nfts are getting from all the shady projects and scams.

[@colinbright1520]

a lot youtubers with high subs will have had money thrown at them to promote the game . glad we have a few honest tubers like you mate 👌😎

[@KiraTV1]

[@kutayumutdincer4272]

@@KiraTV1 hey kira, I'm planning on making a KZbin channel where I promote quality indie games of various genres. Rougelike, RPG, FPS, Hack-n-Slash, etc. No NFT/Crypto based games will be allowed AT ALL. What do you think?

[@kutayumutdincer4272]

Btw, I GENUINELY want your feedback.

[@halogamers18]

lol, he is clueless on how any of the process around Illuvium has worked. He said himself he did little to no research... don't applaud his lack of effort. He made a bunch of stupid assumptions and if he had done ANY sort of research period he would then have had much more to say, and he would understand what's going on with the token price, etc.

[@gerbo8018]

@@halogamers18 If i need to do research to find gameplay footage in a gameplay footage showcase ... maybe the issue is not on the person but on the footage.

[@DrelvanianGuardOffic]

The trailer gives me the vibes of an ad you'd see on facebook, where the game turns out to be a low quality ad-riddled paywall-riddled Dota Auto chess clone.

[@Jiraki_the_Wingless]

Love how, in your intro, as you are talking about games that absolutely didn't deliver on anything they promised you show pretty much purely Crowfall footage lol.

[@drdabsmore945]

Crowfall, eh? I'll have to check it out, sounds juicy.

[@Jiraki_the_Wingless]

@@drdabsmore945 It's certainly something. I had a LOT of fun playing it, but as time went on the issues became worse and worse. It became a chore to play, so I moved on. Maybe I'll revisit it in a year or so, if it's still around!

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

To be fair he showed Ashes too. But to be double fair…not much with this game is available right now lol

[@N00bie666]

in fairness, crowfall was a definitive flop. released to 3K daily players that climbed to almost 6K im a week or so before they decided to hide the player count out of shame.

[@Jiraki_the_Wingless]

@@N00bie666 BIG flop! I had the momentum and energy of a large guild to carry me through initially, and it was a TON of fun at first. But eventually even we just got bored with it and mostly left for different pastures.

[@Khandrake]

after seeing the bits, even the "gameplay" bits do seem more like proof of concept prerendered sceneds

[@nyyfandan]

I will never understand how adding this crypto stuff to the games actually make it better. It seems like it really never improves the game at all. Therefore, that just pretty much makes them all a scam in my eyes. They're not making these things because they want to make the best game, they want to make the most money for the least amount of work.

[@davoodoo8042]

I have a theory, dont think how crypto makes game better think how adding game makes crypto better, thats all that is.

[@tg7837]

@@davoodoo8042 What are you going on about? Atm crypto is a big game to influencers and every stupid sheep is being played by them.

[@tylersanchez7153]

I think they're currently dog shit, but down the line we will get projects actually worth playing. Also I'd keep in mind the people who live in less fortunate countries that make more money playing games than they do going to work, like the guys that sell gold on RS from Brazil. This could potentially open up more opportunities for the less fortunate in a real way.

[@nyyfandan]

@@tylersanchez7153 but in that situation you're describing, the actual game part of it isn't even necessary. You mine crpyto by playing the game right? And that's how these people in impoverished countries can make a living? Your computer can also mine crypto while you are not touching it or using it, just in the background, the game isn't even a necessity there.

[@tylersanchez7153]

@@nyyfandan no you're not necessarily mining crypto by playing it. But the items in game have real world value by being NFTs.

[@friendlyspacedragon7250]

Did you notice the Ubisoft financial thingy for their investors they put out? They're planning on focusing on play to earn model with a lot of the favourite words like blockchain and NFT thrown in.

[@XraynPR]

Ah, the great future where the big companies also involve crypto/NFTs ... I'm sure the quality of games will only rise /s

[@ricks5756]

I'm from the future - the token price has crashed and no game is publicly avalable yet.

[@TomLiberman]

It's pump-and-dump and a lot of influencers are getting paid to pump. That being said, it's not my business how people spend (give away) their money. Keep up the good work, KiraTV.

[@andresk4694]

Really, well that is a long pump without a dump

[@silverfox9107]

@@andresk4694 fanboy alert

[@sy-ky_buddy4603]

BOOM Exactly what i thought!!! This is a pump and dump in game form

[@scartissuefilms]

@@andresk4694 They're characters, aren't they? Reality just passes them by...

[@halogamers18]

@@sy-ky_buddy4603 So, if you do even a shred of research you can see this is literally impossible to rug pull. But sure, believe what you will.

[@LupinTelegar]

Thank you Kira, another great and informative video looking into this sector of the industry. Some people get excited by the smallest of possibilities (it does look good IF you believe this is how the game will really look), and now with crypto you've got the speculators. It looked like a small amount of actual gameplay in there, but I agree it doesn't look like the game you'll actually get if it gets made. I appreciate you putting these vids out and trying to educate people on this issue.

[@michaelnapper4565]

I had no idea this sort of thing existed, but I have a gut feeling that it's going to hurt the gaming industry. Probably already is.

[@shadowingyou]

Love the new style videos coming out! I hope they are doing well to continue

[@azinyefantasy4445]

From on gaming channel. The game is rock paper scissors with elements added so even if the opponent is your opposite if you have the right element you can still win the fight. Creatures can be merged and rated as normal, rare, and legendary. The game's focus is for you to play it 24 hours a day to be the the first 10 to 25 (actual tokens not released) rare/legendary nft token owners.

[@inecronomicsi4285]

More like rock paper scissors lizard Spock But yeah 🤣❤️

[@gerbo8018]

so basicly pokemon ... but the creaters are nft's ?

[@azinyefantasy4445]

@@gerbo8018 creatures and no. So far monsters can be 2 elements but seem to only have 1 attack

[@gerbo8018]

@@azinyefantasy4445 right ignoring pointing out of a spellcheck error. 2 elements on a creature check same as pokemon. Only 1 attack ? well some pokemon only have 1 attack when you capture them ... you learn more later on right ? Still seems more pokemon then anything else.

[@halogamers18]

@@gerbo8018 I mean it's definitely similar in the regards that you're capturing illuvials and battling them, different in literally every other way.

[@Sylphritz]

Funny how they called this a gameplay video but not a single UI element anywhere to be seen.

[@halogamers18]

Intentionally left out, It's also a gameplay reveal trailer, as in this is what gameplay looks like. UI isn't done yet most likely considering it's early alpha.

[@Mickey-wh4di]

"It lacks substance" is a good summary not just for crypto games, but for the entire cryptospace.

[@XeroXenTruSin]

Kira: "and i say to myself... mentally of course, I'm not that far gone, YET" Me out loud: Hooo, heh, we for sure are... also me: ....fuck

[@piprod01]

I speak out loud all the time. I don't think there is anything wrong about it

[@flynngames4703]

@@piprod01 depends. Does any respond? 😉

[@gerbo8018]

@@flynngames4703 the response only becomes an issue if you start losing arguments.

[@narenchinnam4252]

I saw the trailer and immediately thought it looks like a e3 trailer with 5 seconds of gameplay. Doesn't inspire much confidence, I still don't understand the hype for this.

[@shabimtwitchtv4861]

On the Illuvium channel they have a second video with the gameplay they used in their trailer. You as a player will be able to download the file with the fights, and move the camera around with great rendered quality like they did! check the fights out as well! 100% gameplay.

[@adr4122]

same even in the second video it doesn't show how it's played just a description of the genre and some animation of a fight on a board

[@coderpup4639]

There is nothing wrong with talking out aloud to yourself, it's a great tool for helping to organise and remember your thoughts. It's a stigma that really needs to stop.

[@KiraTV1]

It was a joke mate.

[@coderpup4639]

@@KiraTV1 I mean no hate in any way, I'm aware that it was made as a joke, but the implication of the joke is to talk to yourself would be crazy/mentally unstable. I just don't believe that mental health sould be used as a butt for a joke and wanted to point out the stigma.

[@KiraTV1]

I have mental health problems and have or see no issue making jokes about it so I'll almost certainly continue to do so. Covering your issues in cotton wool and not allowing them to be a joke is more likely to contribute to stigma of mental health than making light of it in my opinion. You're entirely free to disagree but it won't change what I do or say just so we're clear.

[@DM01710]

great video , appreciating your work!

[@draconicfeline6177]

I love your bgm, enjoyed the video - well spoken as always, but sound tech was top notch.

[@AericWintershard]

"Game first, crypto second" - I had this exact thought the other day. And I don't even think the "right" concept of implementing crypto in a proper MMO would be that hard. Just tie the in-game currency to whatever crypto you want to have, and possibly have the ingame items be NFTs that people can trade freely, but make it so that the wallet has to be tied to the player account. Granted this would probably have whales come and pay to win the entire game, but on the other hand, the players who are there for the game would have a viable way of trading their ingame assets for actual money if they so desired. Of course, I could be talking out of my ass, and something like this is insanely hard/impossible to pull off, but I can definitely see it working, especially if the people that are actually playing have more pull on the value of the crypto than the "investors".

[@Bogster13]

I mean yea you can, but I always circle back to, what problem are you solving with blockchain and crypto in this scenario that a real money auction house and a server ledger doesn't solve to the same degree, and doesn't require exponentially more hashing power to keep the transactions going. Like really all these crypto games are just in it to pump the value of the crypto, the "game" is just a nice piece of marketing and is a secondary concern. The Game is just there to try to pull in ppl not interested in crypto in inflate the market cap.

[@floyddominique3731]

@@DanielDroegeShow genuine question : did you really earn money from thousand of hours playing MIR4? if you did how much?

[@cristofervidre8378]

@@floyddominique3731 the game has less than a month or at most two months. So it is imposible to put thousand of hours I. The game. Now remember undeveloped countries has an exchange rate that makes 100 dollars per month already good money.

[@floyddominique3731]

@@DanielDroegeShow ic

[@MrMariy0]

"Just tie the in-game currency to whatever crypto you want to have" - You don't understand crypto at all. It's not that simple, not even close.

[@T0MW0ZZER]

From watching your videos, it seems that the developers of these "games", are targeting the crypto market more than the gaming market. I just hope that regular game dev companies don't lose sight of their target audience of people who actually want to just play the game

[@eriksmith2411]

Great video points well made as always -- congrats on the new house!

[@sebastianc9716]

What helps a lot with echo in an empty room and costs almost nothing: Tape some empty carton egg-packages, the part that holds the eggs not the cover, to the walls.

[@kwisclubta7175]

Oh Jesus lol! If I was a constant creator, I would prefer to deal with the reverb than to have a bunch of taped-up egg cartons on my walls! There are much more aesthetic, but still relatively cheap options. Besides, I think he was pretty clear about the reason for the bad audio being that he just moved and hasn't got all of the furniture in yet.

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

7:50 I have little trust in anyone who calls the "Unity" engine as "Unity3D". The latter is a tentative compromise because the "Unity" domain name was not available back in the day.

[@poexix9263]

Not to defend the guy or anything, but calling it Unity3D somewhat acknowledges the fact that the person has known about the engine for a good amount of years as it was called Unity3D back in the day.

[@legendarydragoon]

I understand your sentiment, but as someone who has worked in Unity for over 9 years now, I sometimes still have to refer to Unity as "Unity3D" in certain job search sites or career pages because of the annoying ambiguity with the name Unity. There are other things in the software development sphere that uses the name Unity, such as the Microsoft Dependency Injection framework. Unity3D is the quick way to specify that I have Unity engine experience. 😅

[@AlexcendreM]

You're good and patient to cover all these "projects". I like your videos, I've learned a lot about this world that I know nothing about and that I was avoiding as much as possible ("Games" + Crypto/NFTs). Games are great because they stay games. When you involve money, things changes and you lose a lot of the "soul" that make great games what they are. It's ok if some people want to involve real money or crypto in some games but it's never done in an honest and transparent way and that is what bothers me.

[@algi1]

Crypto bros first ruined the GFX card market and now they expect gamers to welcome them in the gaming community.

[@wbkxx]

Very fair view across the madness. In the mainstream video games industry there have been a lot of AAA games people moving into this space this year behind the scenes. With Ubisoft's announcement even more will now. So I would expect to see a glut of NFT stuff in AAA games early next year. I don't think it has to be something bad though. As there is a lot more space to experiment with these mechanisms in a player positive way, as opposed to the video game skinned f2p loot box slot machines. Of course there is going to be a lot of that too, especially as it is a low bar to move those mechanics across.

[@tutmasterjay4233]

Really enjoy your content on all varieties of games you cover. On the whole blockchain crypto related games, I'd give Lost Relics a peak. Game is in what it looks like really early alpha status but they do have a playable game, very raw but can kind of see what there going for, dungeon crawler with blockchain items (There using Enjin for there blockchain loot). Be interested in your view of the game. Keep up the great content.

[@w0ngky]

Only average thing about Lost Relics is you will be grinding for months for (possibly) anything. I guess they made it possible to earn shadowstones for free and you can buy blockchain items with that but its still a huge grind. If you enjoy it, then who am I to stop you.

[@migueltucabron]

They are directly competing with Path of Exiles and Diablo. They might have a game but it doesn't compare well to their competitors. Also keep in mind that PoE is designed to bring people back every season.

[@teirdalin]

The vast majority of players of Crypto-Games are just third world country employees being paid by a random crypto-bro to gather crypto for them.

[@Thedownliner2015]

The common thread between these trailers and actual gameplay is they both follow the Mobile App route where very rarely anything you see in a Google Ad on a mobile game ever happens in that game they are pushing you to download. Now in a functioning advertising space that could be construed as false advertising but this is Google we are talking about and if it makes them money they don't care. If I were to guess then 9:31 is the entire game. The rest is just cutscene.

[@JordonBeal]

Wait… did they really, like, actually list Von Neumann as art director? Von Neumann the physicist who came up with the self replicating space probe idea? The guy who died in 1957?

[@NobodyHere951]

Congrats on the new house, bro

[@KiraTV1]

thanks dude

[@inurabera]

They are just going for the 'gameplay reveal' that DICE/EA use!

[@egemenozan5641]

I am having anthem flashbacks after reading this comment

[@LocrianDorian]

Not even; those are proper companies with a proven track record, so you know whatever trailer they put out is actually a project that is being worked on and is completely legitimate. You don't even get the comfort of knowing the game will actually come out with these overambitious titles by devs with little to no experience.

[@inurabera]

@@LocrianDorian yeah, my comment is mainly tongue in cheek, no matter how unwilling they can seem to be to show real gameplay you know there will be something there in the end, good or bad. Waiting for Battlefield 2042 with more than clips has been rough!

[@mattpeters4700]

Grats on your move mate. Hope the new place is a nice upgrade.

[@LocrianDorian]

There is no doubt that none of this is gameplay, not even the part that looks less like a trailer. That is -at best- a vertical slice of how they would like the gameplay to be when the game is done, but at the moment we don't know if they will ever be able to deliver on that. It isn't impossible, but not likely either.

[@IkarosTypeAlpha]

reading about the game, it sounds interesting. However, anything involving crypto in the gaming space is automatically a red flag to me. I wish this shit didn't need to infest everything. It's getting obnoxious, especially with how hard people push it

[@Stalkerfan498]

@@DanielDroegeShow Good idea. Now go invest literally all your money and lose it. Or maybe spend it all on lottery tickets. Same thing really. Like they say, "YoU CaNt WiN If YoU DoNt PlAy!"

[@Stalkerfan498]

@@DanielDroegeShow "Ya, cause I take financial advice from people in youtube comments." Says the crypto shill in the youtube comments lmfao

[@Stalkerfan498]

@@DanielDroegeShow Because not investing in shitcoin is the equivalent of walking on bad ground without shoes. lmao, good cope buddy. I got a bridge in brooklyn to sell you as well

[@Stalkerfan498]

@@DanielDroegeShow lmao I can hear the golden stick sliding up your ass from here. Not my business how you decide to get scammed, but you're really huffing the copium hard over your precious scam coins getting shit on.

[@asteranx]

In addition to the jetpacking segment that was mentioned, I'm willing to believe that the footage involving the two sided board/arena with all the creatures fighting is possibly actual gameplay as well, provided the game is an autobattler. This wouldn't be out of the question, as autobattlers are popular these days and offer an easy way to have multiplayer interactions without actually implementing a real time server architecture. You take snapshots of a player's board layout, and send that out to others who want to challenge them. The original player doesn't need to be present at the time and the server doesn't need to deal with turns or anything, so it cuts out a lot of the problematic bits of the server architecture. I'm basing this mostly on how repetitive and disconnected from one another the animations were in these sections. Of course, it's up to the developers to demonstrate that this was the intentional interpretation and verify what parts are or are not gameplay. Until then, just assume everything has that 'Not actual gameplay footage' message at the bottom.

[@kingdude2089]

Half the game is collecting illuvials in the open world (think monster hunter stages) and the other half is an auto battler.

[@KiraTV1]

As stated in the video if you compare the footage of the arena fighting with that of the other "gameplay" video they posted the following day, which is also in this video as footage, they look drastically different quality wise. Looks like it was still rendered footage in the "gameplay" trailer to me.

[@asteranx]

@@KiraTV1 That's fair. You can never really tell these days and without more specific confirmation all bets are off. On my end I was chalking up things like framerate and quality differences to the battle arenas being quite small, and the exploration segment being more open and not as well optimized. The two sequences may have also been recorded on different hardware or during different stages of development. My opinion was mostly based on the camera work looking programmatic vs authored, and interaction between entities looking generic vs situational. I find that moreso than graphics quality these days, those two things are very difficult to get right in a dynamic gameplay situation and can't be solved just by having a faster computer or downloading the right asset. So when I see one scene with properly framed camera shots, well timed cuts, a character that's reacting to elements in their environment, and some degree of narrative pacing cut to another scene that's a slow circling pan at a fixed height where the same character from the first scene is repeating the same animation on a loop, the second one definitely suggests 'gameplay' to me when compared to the first.

[@Junch]

This is a great investigative video. Keep it up.

[@RedX1II]

THANK YOU for this video! Finally somebody that has been echo'ing the same sentiment I've been sharing with my friends!

[@sneakypeteog9968]

Lmao my friend and I ( he has made his own game before ) talk about this game all the time and point out "red flags " almost as a pass time ... Lol you can't even say I'm a hater cause I staked a nice chunk of ETH ... So if anything I'd love this thing to blow up ...just seeing the red flags ...and yes even in the " discord" lol they just link alot of assets that an intern could whip up in a few hours

[@Thor-Orion]

4:18 look at how her running motion interacts with the environment. Clear sign that this vertical slice isn’t even polished or fully put together. Honestly it does look really cool, but it also looks FAKE.

[@halogamers18]

1) Not fake. I assure you. The discord has a longer video of more of the overworld. 2) It's early alpha, it will be done. It's obviously a work in progress.

[@Thor-Orion]

@@halogamers18 fair enough, but just personally I wouldn’t release something that looked like that, and I’d be wary about investing in something like that.

[@Evermore098]

I know what, I am going make a game that is a crypto farmer where you just play as a miner mining rocks all day I bet it sell like hot cakes

[@UmbraWeiss]

Not a bad idea actually :))

[@Evermore098]

@@UmbraWeiss yes see, smack rock turn in rock get coin ........(buy my 1000$ pickaxe) if you want to for faster rock smashing

[@zh84]

Watching on 13th November. The illuvium token is now trading at $44, in other words, it's fallen about 95% in the last twelve days.

[@silentsage2462]

Crypto prices predominately follow the trend of BTC. You must be new here

[@Knightik1]

Even when you said that you will be having the video playing in the background, it took me a minute to realise you ment what was already playing ...

[@joshk5206]

That was a pretty video. WOW made pretty videos a long time ago too, like many, many gaming companies. Not, of course, at all representative of actual gameplay. So we learned they can make pretty videos. To me the videos only serve as smoke and mirrors and all I want to see is the actual gameplay with any game. I know every game can make a pretty video already.

[@EckosamaGhostTsushima]

you definitely should cover this more. There are two sections, the exploration is that one where you are in the air, and the auto battler is the pokemon battle section. the rest, which is alot is prerendered. to be honest if they have cutscenes, i would like them looking prerendered like thta. also the high marketcap is huge, because it is a metaverse style token with a very very small amount of tokens. its math

[@halogamers18]

I think you meant, the high cost per token is huge because it has a very small amount of tokens.

[@peedlejaydle]

No worries about the sound, it was more than fine. Hope and pray that your new house will feel like your home very quickly, take care and stay safe

[@SuperSylar]

Cue that Regular Show scene where Mordecai and Rigby look back and forth at a game box art highly detailed and the actual game being 8-bits graphics, and saying they look exactly the same.

[@KairosObj]

There are suckers for everything. Couldn't be me.

[@UpusCumupus]

You tell people they're going to be apart of something huge and are going to make a lot of money from it and they'll literally do anything even if that means dumping their entire bank account on a random project that doesn't exist. Doesn't matter how basic, outdated, & unoriginal the product or idea is.

[@TensaZangetsu1200]

It'd be fun to see an update on this, maybe in the second channel.

[@piskipa]

Token went from a peak $1800 to $77 today, big yikes.

[@McFox111]

I went and talked to the Iluvium dvs on twitter. As far as I've been able to piece together this is going to be like tft or a tcg but with NFT pieces. So they are taking the beautiful balance of an auto battler and ruining it with TCG p2w bullshit. The dev who replied to me kept saying, well TCGs like Magic do it so why can't we? Ignoring the fact that the biggest thing that limits Magic's appeal is the large cost of entry. Yeah game is gonna fail.

[@acetown2263]

Did you make the move to Canada? Or just a new house in the UK? Was wondering with the last vid, sounded like you were recording in an empty room xD

[@Remixersoloman]

I agree on the trailer. Looks like just that jetpack part and the parts where the monsters are standing still cycling attack animations look like a normal game. Still some very impressive assets and graphics for an NFT game, but judging by the basic looking battles it isn't mechanically something like Axie.

[@fantom_j8452]

It's so early in the space but Ubisoft is building on the Tezos platform for whatever that's worth

[@hadjinim1609]

So... this is a trading card game with an added 3D-story & discovery aspect? And the cards are NFTs?

[@Believeinapathy]

Its an auto-chess like game with open world discovery aspect where you catch the pieces you use in the "auto chess" game, which are nfts.

[@Mike-qx2iy]

auto-chess combined with basically pokemon, it's honestly not a bad idea for a game just sketch af

[@iv4nx3]

it's FOMO bro, everyone wants to get in as earlier as possible, in hopes of making money of people entering later. it's very simple actually. They latch to any NFT game that shows a glimpse of possibility of success.

[@halogamers18]

Fomo hasn't even begun for illuvium. Literally in it's infantile stages, hasn't even been under development for a full year.

[@thenintendobros9918]

I'm not a cryptobro, and don't even have anything crypto/nft related. But i do think the CONCEPT of a game with nfts is cool. Either purely cosmetic (i.e. tf2/rainbow 6), or a trading card style game

[@stealthysaucepan2016]

Yeah. We already see csgo, one of the top pc games having a player driven marketplace of skins that has huge community's just around the skins alone. NFT's are like the evolution of this

[@kevinb9830]

The fact all those yt channels with hundreds of thousands of followers are bigging this up should tell you everything - they're in it for the hype and short term money gains for themselves.

[@woobaiii]

Sounds like someone missed the boat

[@Bobbystheboy]

🤣👍

[@TheVenhammer]

All these crypto enthusiasts getting excited about a game which basically looks like a shitty version of autochess or team fight tactics. It’s amazing how the promise of easy money can make these people act like absolute idiots.

[@shabimtwitchtv4861]

The autobattling part is only for the fights, there is a whole other metaprogression outside of the fighting it self. The overworld to be explored, the armor and weapons to be crafted, the resources to be mined, the market place to be played! In many aspects this game is deep and we hope it will be fun! If you genuinely would like to know about illuvium, the discord is the best place to start.

[@Ownage4lif31]

Nobody is excited for the actual game. They're just here to pump their bags and then forget about it when they sell. This is crypto. Don't think all the comments that say it's going to be good is actually them caring. Right now the trend is metaverse and gaming because of Facebooks recent announcement. Once this game is released it will probably dump. Forgot to mention, that's if it ever gets released.

[@TheVenhammer]

​@@shabimtwitchtv4861 Tell me something, how is any of that supposed to contribute to the main part of the game, the autobattling? The whole point of an autobattler is that all players start out with nothing and draft a team of characters, adapting to enemy teams and the options they're given. Open world exploration and crafting contribute nothing to that, unless of course people who gather/craft more have advantages in the autobattler, which will ruin the whole point of the game to begin with. It honestly sounds like the devs googled a bunch of popular gaming terms and ended up with "autobattler" "open world" and "crafting" and are trying to bait people into thinking this is an actual game when they in fact have no idea what they're doing. Please tell me how open world is in any way supposed to contribute in a meaningful way to a drafting game.

[@TheVenhammer]

@@Ownage4lif31 You're most likely right, this is some of the most vapid shit I've ever seen, it's honestly really sad.

[@Ownage4lif31]

@@TheVenhammer and that's why the stock market has big requirements. In crypto, anyone can make anything. There are no rules, so you have projects like this. But in the end, every crypto project is a joke and brings no value to the real world. It's all just one big pump and dump on people.

[@relevanttangent8442]

The gameplay bit reminds me of being a vanilla Wow hunter but with more than one pet pulling aggro.

[@CRoddiee]

Can wait for your video next year playing this😂😂😂

[@Dekaku]

Plot twist: Illuvium is just a reskinned Anthem. You wondered why Anthem was abandoned? It wasn't. They just reworked it to look different and add nft to it.

[@michaelkenner3289]

Please do not give BioWare ideas.

[@ianirwin9480]

I'm waiting for Star Citizen to announce the introduction of NFTs

[@tylersanchez7153]

Gratz on the new house! Papa out here making moves

[@Sollace]

9:29 That view. That view right there gives it away. The game looks like it's going to be a suped up hearthstone clone. Losts of cinema graphics, then the gameplay becomes a top-down board game/battle simulator. Calling it now. This is going to be released on mobile, like another Raid Shadow Legends.

[@screwthenet]

The game looks great, and the actual gameplay is exactly what they promised and were showing previews of. Check out their discord and make a decision for yourselves folks.

[@bleekcer]

Hi! Where can I see the gameplay?

[@Stalkerfan498]

Cope harder on that wasted investment crypty

[@JamieCrannell]

When the gameplay is so polished that it is mistaken as pre rendered cinematic.. and it's still in alpha.. Mwhaa! good stuff.

[@joostdriesens3984]

I looked at the official trailer. There are a lot of positive comments, but it's all very static with few variation, likes and replies. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the comments are fake.

[@Always.Smarter]

a lot of very important points here that I wish blockchain devs would understand. you should do a video with On Chain Gaming or The Defiant!

[@andrewbrock3675]

I'm just tired of the mmo players. Say they want something new, but if a game is proposed that's in any different from wow people freak out. I hope all the shit ass new world bugs and shit is them having to scrap the game they wanted to make and re start so the casual andys didn't get killed while cutting logs. We don't deserve good games.

[@thetruestar6348]

Yeah WoW has hurt the genre because it taught people to play MMOs wrong, they think you HAVE to hit endgame and grind the game into dust in the first month

[@darkcloud9053]

Yeah cause we all know hardcore MMOs are the biggest right?

[@andrewbrock3675]

@@darkcloud9053 my man,you could like, go play one of the many, many not hardcore and established mmos already on the market?

[@Sk1ndredd]

Bro, this isn’t even a game. There’s no argument here.

[@andrewbrock3675]

@@Sk1ndredd I'm just talking in general.

[@tymaguire4175]

Man this video is picking on the actual legit crypto game that is coming out soon. Your misleading people in this KZbin video. If you want to see what's going on join the discord and see for yourself

[@toddtaylor6506]

Bizarre time to be alive ... video game industry is being taken over by people that don't want to produce games and people that don't want to play games .....

Now, ILV is down to 50-60 $. It dropped 95%.

[@tymaguire4175]

I don't get why people are against sharing the wealth and success of a game. Instead of company's earning all the revenue everyone can have a piece of the pie. It's not something thats hard to understand crypto decentralises the wealth to everyone that participates we should be accelerating this space so we can all benefit.

[@zzHirozz1]

I usually like your channel, but dude wtf was that about illuvium ? looks like you speak with 0 preparation and with 0 research ! they have leaked since weeks the gameplay inside unreal engine ! and it s the same. there is several leaks you can find just taking 1 min to go to the discord, and once again it s inside the unreal engine, actual gameplay. so critisism is good, but it s better when based on fact rather than just "I think this is not real and not what your going to have ingame" but of course you can not take time to get info, and just camp on your "personal thought", you re free to do that ! but you loose a lot of credibility and that s sad As I said your content are usally great

[@alpaca4682]

Yeah man. I like his content. But this... I wish he had done some due diligence before making those assumptions/criticisms.

[@zzHirozz1]

Oh actually I ve seen your answer on Kieran tweet, you actually don't even accept fact and want to discredit the work done just not to say you were wrong ... I l unsubscribing, really pathetic way of reviewing things with fair eyes.

[@SaindonJ]

He miss the train and now he cry while trying to brainwash people with him.

[@alpaca4682]

I liked this guy because he actually does his research. But man, I lost all respect.

[@1wk407]

thanks for the regular sanity checks, it seems like the state of things just keeps getting wilder

[@Vladdie777]

Congrats on the new house bro