The Price of A Kickstarter Scam

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This is the story about Dreamworld, from beginning of the project until today. There is still no resolution or end in sight but the story is an interesting one. Let me know if this is something you enjoyed since it took a seriously long time to make and research.
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[@KiraTV1]

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[@Amateracu1991DFFOO]

I heard it had graphics that can only compete with high end pc game graphics and a very engaging gameplay !!! Can't wait to play it !

[@Germanssuchti]

fineee i make another acc:)

[@BigHalfSteps]

@@Amateracu1991DFFOO No, it has console graphics. PS2 console btw.

[@GenBumbleBee]

no.

[@DD-fs7pg]

Yikes

[@mpazinambao2938]

I've never met anyone who was happy to hear someone's music blasting out in a public area.

[@danielc9967]

Agreed, it might even be illegal to do it in some situations

[@danielc9967]

@Mcillsonn I see, but its still a bit weird when I see people playing music on the streets.

[@danielc9967]

@Mcillsonn You know that is entirely different, playing an instrument in public is quite commended and even entertaining , but blasting out music your speaker is just weird when you could easily use a headset.

[@manfredflyingcircus1232]

Proves the guy is an absolute naive moron

[@elliottvaughn700]

I don't think I NEED to subject random passerby to my love for Eiffel 65's back catalogue, thank you very much!

[@AnythingGaming3214]

I love how he puts the breakup of his relationship in the tralier for the game.

[@leroyrooney1412]

It's a classic American reality tv trope, some unrelated sob story to make you feel something for the character. I remember noticing this when US Wipeout aired in my country, the Japanese one was just straight to the point, the US one would single our some contestants and be "aww well my mother passed away earlier this year, that's why I'm here"

[@bigbearkat2010]

@@leroyrooney1412 honestly with us Wipeout, I always thought their shtick was finding out some random personality trait of the contestant and running it into the ground

[@bro6568]

That trailer was fkn awful 10:35 he is SO FAKE 🤮

[@AwesometownUSA]

@@leroyrooney1412 “so what made you want to try out for american voice singer idol?” “well -the money- I mean, so my sister is disabled, and was diagnosed with cancer, and…”

[@mattd6085]

@@leroyrooney1412 The bloke looks like he'd have "made in the US" on the bottom of his foot. The creepy pearly white perfect teeth, the industry standard haircut and facial hair, the godawful accent, the godawful movie grade over acted emotions, he is the typical yank through and through. I hate it

[@BeauSeverson]

I always love when Raid is the one to sponsor videos about terrible games that scammed a lot of people out of money. Feels like a sort of good fit.

[@gworfish]

They show other Devs how to do it right.

[@CallMe6]

😂 it's cause they spend all their funding on ads. I tried the game. I hate it. But lots of people like it. To each their own I guess.

[@vinterfe1558]

Much as I dislike Raid, at least it actually is a game that you can realistically play. It's generic, boring, fantasy-by-numbers, and a huge financial sinkhole for users...BUT if you didn't care about that and just wanted something to play on your phone, it is a realistic option.

[@BeauSeverson]

@@vinterfe1558 my main complaint is there are much better mobile games that are not financial sinkholes for users and actually respect their time, but they usually cost a dollar or two and people for some reason have an aversion to paying up-front for a good game, and instead want to bleed out the money long-term for microtransactions that generally work only to make the game merely okay.

[@DarkLumiya]

@@BeauSeverson can you name those games please? Been looking for decent mobile games for awhile, I don't mind paying upfront for them if it's a one time purchase.

[@mklptrk]

"A dam built by rats pretending to be beavers"... the absolute cheek. Well done.

[@Ramsey276one]

Excuse meWUT XD

[@PlanetaJuegosPC]

Zachary: "Dream World is the last game you will ever play" Me: "Is that a Threat or a warning?"

[@kungfuvoodoo9889]

I take it in the same vein as when a girl tells a guy she's not attracted to "I would only date you if you were the last man on earth"

[@Reac2]

Once you play it you realize there is no future in video games and you just stop playing them altogether

[@jakzine540]

He is a disgrace to all Zacharys in the world, including myself. The Council of Zach shall ban him soon.

[@elliottvaughn700]

Yeah you'll just lose any and all interest in games for the rest of your life from the trauma.

[@bruhbruhman349]

That has to be the dumbest statement ever lol

[@ginyumusic]

love the fact that nightmare world was made out of spite and is already looking like a proper project worth keeping an eye on!

[@emikochan13]

It's a shame that the better it gets the more expectations might get placed on it. I really hope they can keep up, when I think of nightmare world I can hear the distant horn of the hype train :P

[@15redleg]

@@emikochan13 Well, now its something we care for and want to make it the best possible game we can!

[@emikochan13]

@@15redleg Yeah I hope so! Patreon funding is transparent too :)

[@15redleg]

@@emikochan13 Well, be doing that way down the line just yet. For now, we are going to work on the game with zero budget till we prove ourselves at the vertical slice

[@qu0dlb3t]

This is like that movie "catch me if you can"except it's "catch my poop".

[@cartoonjohnstudios]

“I got hit by a taxi cab twice! Clearly it was the earbuds fault!” How much you wanna bet this dude was just jaywalking straight into traffic without looking where he was going?

[@JohnSSSSS]

"jaywalking" is an anti-pedestrian slur

[@Rawn_Rap]

​@@JohnSSSSS dog, what

[@JohnSSSSS]

@@Rawn_Rap The word "jay" used to describe someone who was stupid. The automotive industry made up the term "jaywalker" to refer to pedestrians who tried to continue walking in the road after the introduction of cars.

[@WhiteMisteryWeed]

I doubt he even got hit once. Seems like a lie to sell his crap.

[@archonwarrior9146]

@@JohnSSSSS well and it's a total fit because it simply is stupid to run onto a road you know cars drive on. They can't just stop in an instant like a pedestrian could do when for example checking the road for traffic before crossing it.

[@Morbacounet]

I feel bad for the ex-fiancé. She was manipulated by that guy, probably berated on a regular basis and after she finally dumps him, she's dragged in his scam. Talk about being humiliated publicly.

[@KirstenMarie_MS3]

I do, too. She has a KZbin channel of her own and, when she mentioned how he lied about the engagement ring being fake, everyone latched on to that, calling her a gold digger and other names. There even were a few guys, in Josh's Comment section, of the militant Red Pill variety spewing their confirmation bias all over. They were completely ignoring the deeper issue at hand, being the violation of trust. And, apparently, *she* had been supporting him with her successful modeling career. Which seems to track, since waiting tables usually doesn't pay a living wage these days.

[@fc7307]

@@KirstenMarie_MS3 If he had told her the truth in the first place then it would have been fine.

[@brunomenezes9011]

@@KirstenMarie_MS3 I can't get over the fact she, a beautiful and professionally sucessfull woman, almost married that psychopathic failure. He's so stupid he didn't even give the importance she deserved.

[@TheVenhammer]

@@KirstenMarie_MS3 That doesn't surprise me at all that they latched onto that, and completely ignored the real problem which was the lying. And these guys wonder why they can't get girlfriends.

[@obsidiack1489]

@@KirstenMarie_MS3 Totally agree with this, if she was supporting him financially and couldn't afford to buy a nice engagement ring because of it, she would definitely understand if he proposed with something cheap without lying about it. It didn't seem like she cared about the ring itself anyway, just the fact that he'd lied about the price/quality, which I feel anyone would be annoyed about even if it wasn't an engagement ring

[@Wisznuification]

I love how this people start they own company and immediately call themselves CEOs. And they always have to give some kind of motivational speech on how much they value creativity and other buzz words.

[@justinwhite2725]

I'm a CEO by that standard. I'm a game developer with a registered business and haven't released anything. Lol.

[@Guhonter]

It's like Only Fans Whamen calling themselves Entrepreneurs.

[@itemushmush]

the music behind his announcement video was absolutely on point for these types of "ceos"

[@azynkron]

It's the 'murican way. It's not what you do, it's what you say that counts.

[@masstv9052]

@@justinwhite2725 If you have a registered company, but no revenue, do you still need to file yearly with the IRS? Does it cost you money yearly to keep a registered business, even if you're not selling a product, and therefore have no revenue? like is there a benefit to keeping a registered business, if your not selling anything?

[@peterpike]

Core Aegis is definitely the kind of product thought up by the guy who always answers his calls at work on speakerphone.

[@Saraieth]

Nothing screams credibility when the "serial entrepreneur" has to work as a waiter to make ends meet

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

He can't make his money all at once, hence a "serial" entrepreneur, one money at a time.

[@xxskizzumxx]

Love when he said his fiance left him after he lost his waiter job.......smart girl

[@Recursively_]

“Serial entrepreneur” is just a red flag in general. It tells me they think too highly of themselves, have no focus, and can’t stick with anything (thus the “serial” part). Not suitable as business partners or for personal relationships imo

[@stormthrush37]

20:47 It's always a good sign someone is trustworthy when they pivot from "I got lied to" to "you didn't deserve the thing I got you."

[@Hyperdeath.Kisses]

Right?? It’s like “You know, you’re right! I don’t deserve to be given a fake ring and then be gaslit for calling it out! 🤠”

[@Tall_Order]

I still laugh when I hear that guy's crowd funding video. >My Fiancée left me. [SIGH] >Then my dog bit me. [SIGH] I made that last part up, but he may as well have said it.

[@russianbot3967]

HI IM GARRISON

[@Jabarri74]

I'm sure the dog is one of the 7 coders they are 'paying'

[@Trafulgoth]

He's one broken truck away from a country song.

[@medea27]

@@Trafulgoth LOL I can imagine the dog howling in the background as one of his backup singers

[@jenkins80526]

That was a corrupt little man lying and trying to sound believable. It's a tell.

[@Pterosoftstudio]

It breaks my heart as a game developer to see a lot of great games on Kickstarter unable to raise the funds they need and then see this crap raising 200% of their goal in 9 hours. - Jan

[@Ramsey276one]

Sex Sells Scams Snares Shit Stinks D8

[@6vitamin]

Idk if they did though. He had his family pay into the kickstarter to make it seem legit.

[@legojay14]

Luck plays a huge factor in the ones that werent paid by family. People like this idiot are a dime a dozen. That's why people associate Kickstarter with scams. But for every scam that succeeds. 100 fail without anyone noticing

[@MrMarinus18]

I would love to see another site rise where there are contracts to be made, maybe call it Indielaunch or something. That they take a slightly larger cut of the investments raised but provide the service against scammers or breaking promises. That to use the site you have to sign a contract to keep your word and to keep the goals and if you fail you are liable.

[@psims7342]

@@6vitamin i hate the americanism "he had his family" or "he/she had them do XXX) no, he didnt HAVE them do anything, he probably asked them to do it and they may have agreed but for him to HAVE them do it implies that they had no choice

[@BloodEaterGamesStudio]

It still amazes me to see so called indie developers releasing builds like this on the back of hugely successful crowdfunding campaigns and then you get legit indie teams struggle to get any kind of traction. Love your videos man, keep up the amazing work.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

Scammers can promise anything they think will gain attention, actual indie devs have to temper their promises with reality.

[@masterblaster2678]

And they have to live with the publicity of kickstarter projects usually being scams and fakes. If someone paid for a project like this and saw that it was a scam, they will probably not want to back another game after because of the anger at the money they threw into the void. Scams hurt the credibility of actual indie game devs. It sucks.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

@@DAMWOKE the one in the video...

[@masterblaster2678]

@@DAMWOKE Late reply, but Undertale is the greatest example of a successful kickstarter game. Its community may be shit, but it's obvious that it was made with love and care when you play the game itself. Good ol' Toby also released Deltarune's first two chapters for free as a sorta gift to the community, and has been an overall chill guy all around, I haven't seen any negative thing circulating about him, ever. He is at the greatest heights of his fame, which is when celebs start doing and saying awful crap because the fame got to their head, but Toby's always been humble.

[@Simon-xi7lb]

@@DAMWOKE can you repeat that in coherent english, please? thanks.

[@mcstark2700]

I can't believe this guy's investment pitch is 'I'm incapable of crossing the street without getting run over'

[@jimjones9631]

"I got hit by taxi cabs twice" Kira! We solved the case.

[@onistgaming5177]

I really love how he blames the headphones before considering he might just be dumb… if it was actually true I mean lol

[@Onus6688]

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! 😂

[@justinbowman1342]

And then the taxi cabs left me....

[@Nuffsi]

@@onistgaming5177 you could say his common sense... left him

[@FirstWizardZorander]

@@justinbowman1342 *sigh*

[@ShadowReaver573]

Honestly this whole fiasco has made me curious enough to see what I can make videogame wise as a solo developer with no prior experience using Unity and some KZbin and googled tutorials to educate myself. So far I got movement that works with keyboards and controllers

[@Theundeadleader]

Self learning is great and just a few youtube tutorials will get you further than Zach lol

[@monkeygrenadier3579]

That's like 10% of what Dreamworld has.. Keep it up !

[@raistlin69AZ]

I've heard Unreal Engine is especially accessible when it comes to scripting these days.

[@mtucker6784]

@@raistlin69AZ this is true.

[@devantetoppin7879]

a single person can actually make a surprising amount these days especially if they use an established engine like unreal or unity just look at Bright memory for an example. That said it's all about being practical with the scope and scale of your game. outrageous tech defying never done before scale MMO? yeah you aren't gonna pull that off ever. Chess game? yeah that's something one person can pull off for example.

[@JemyM]

The salespitch for Dreamworld is already realized in Second Life, which is fully playable, with a free client, a huge community and very active.

[@whawhawhawhaaaa]

For all it's issues Second Life is also probably 10x better than Dreamworld would ever be.

[@Sham_Seer]

" Not to worry. They added doors!..... The doors of course did not work" beautiful summation of most of the video.

[@TheKindKitten]

Thanks a ton for mentioning Nightmare World, Kira. That was really nice of you! ((HUGS)) -Lore writer from the team. x

[@TheKindKitten]

((HUGS)) also for everyone that reads this and wants hugs :3x

[@oliver_twistor]

@@TheKindKitten Thanks for the free (and covid-safe) hug, mate! (hug)

[@GoldenEmotions]

(hugs) Hugs are always welcome! Keep up the hard work. :D

[@TheKindKitten]

@@oliver_twistor Your name seems familiar...I think you commented on a few of Callum's videos? I suppose the hug would be as covid safe as possible since I've had my two jabs, haha XD

[@TheKindKitten]

@@GoldenEmotions Welp, now I'm blushing. Thank you though! X3

[@andrewhaines90]

The money falling out the book during the sponsor bit at the start... so damn good haha. Grats on a 100K btw, massive well done :)

[@KiraTV1]

Thanks bro!

[@javierkiman8302]

Liking something from irrelevant videos that do not make your mind better in positivity is surely going to be wrong. Generating more hate, could be generating more kinder motive, yet Caucasians don't know what to study because its not there for them so these people become jealous and also bring on faults on to themselves and offspring. Yet in the future, this can keep going onward, what a pain.

[@TheShadowOfZama]

@@javierkiman8302 Your comment was hilarious. I do not know what you just said funny man, but it's ridiculousness has managed to amuse me for a few seconds. You tried using google translate did you not? Hahaha.

[@Dilligff]

@@javierkiman8302 The comment you presented forth seemingly is something of a useless diatribe as it is inherently unclear what the intent of that given statement was supposed to mean, being that I am caucassian, and such a given state of skin tone should be irrelevant under any circumstance unless related to picking out what type of SPF to use, it still has little to do with what you are saying which is to say I've no clue what that is.

[@ingamingpc1634]

@@javierkiman8302 dude you think you could explain this better I Tried reading this and you killed about 10% of my brain cells those brain cells are dead now and I want them back

[@larunasoftpaw570]

No matter how many times I hear this story, the fake diamond ring just blows me away every time. Like wow. You know that the type of guy who tries to pull that off is going to curse everything that he touches. I’m SO glad she got out of that relationship, I know what it’s like to be in a horrible, manipulative relationship like that so I know how hard it is to leave.

[@futonrevolution7671]

I liked how her video ended with showing off the diamond ring that she bought herself. The "maybe, *you* were struggling, but, I was doing fantastic, THANK YOU VERY MUCH" part was my favorite, though.

[@larunasoftpaw570]

@@futonrevolution7671 the story of how he tried to lie his way out of it is a textbook example of a manipulator. First he tries to lie more. Then he tries to deflect the issue with a dash of negging. "Why do you deserve a diamond? Why should I buy you a real diamond?" Just ignore that I lied, it's YOU who's the problem!

[@User0000000000000004]

Also, the public marriage proposal is a crappy thing to do to your beloved. It forces her to say yes because it would be cruel to turn you down in front of all those people. So she'll accept at the moment but it's about as solid as that diamond you bought. Some men...

[@heatherangel9700]

@@User0000000000000004 Yeah, unless you have already discussed marriage and know that the person is going to say yes and that they're ok with public displays, public proposals are super manipulative. Either the person says no and is the bad guy for publicly humiliating you, or they say yes and tell you later that they didn't mean it, in which case they are the bad guy for leading you on. There's no way for the person being proposed to to decline without being turned into the villain.

[@User0000000000000004]

@@heatherangel9700 In what way is what you said not EXACTLY what I said, but with more words? Pfft. Women. Am I right?

[@hunter_theo1208]

"They added in a fog to help performance, but since it didn't actually remove any far-away objects, all it did was make the game run worse." I'm genuinely shocked there is someone on this planet that is actually that inept.

[@andrewsisson6536]

That was my favorite Raid Shadow Legends spot by FAR! Getting that paycheck while winking at the audience, that's how you do it!

[@zersch.]

I'm following like five channels that are always covering this game and you've all merged into one justice filled entity in my headcanon.

[@acousticabuse6953]

You a Chris Morrison fan

[@subway7008]

idk about you but every time i see someone with their music on full blast from their phone or a jbl box or whatever walking around town i think to myself "what a well adjusted young man, i admire their caution for road safety"

[@whawhawhawhaaaa]

Imagine getting hit by a car twice due to your own negligence and instead of evaluating whether or not you should be listening to music while running since you clearly cannot handle it or just looking both ways before crossing the road, you decide to strap a speaker to your chest so you can make it everybody's problem.

[@yukonflat5468]

Even though I watched all these videos alrdy and find the situation fascinating, this recap is like watching an old favorite movie over again. You laugh and cry at all the same parts of the movie doesn’t matter how many times you seen it. I’m happy for Kira and all the success he has found keep up the great work.

[@Aybo1000]

That raid shadow legends segment was fken gold. I usually skip but you said it was going to be good and you weren’t lying.

[@namelessentity5851]

I remember someone else using the term "serial entrepreneur" and it always struck as sounding like A: someone who comes up with a lot of cockamamie ideas, doomed to fail. Or B: a fancy way of saying 'grifter'.

[@KnakuanaRka]

Yeah, you wouldn’t keep bouncing from one project to the next in series unless they all kept failing.

[@derp195]

“I don’t know how to look both ways, so I blast my music in public.” I’m hard of hearing, so I can’t hear cars coming anyway. But that’s what your eyes are for.

[@Irrelevant94]

I died laughing when I heard people could unban themselves by changing their name.

[@amakono7738]

CONGRATS on 100k Kira knew you could do it! Knew you had it in you! And you are worth it! So glad I didn't get sucked into this scam and I'm really sorry for the people that did and hope they get their money back. :(

[@NONOOBZ4EVR]

A Cereal Entrepreneuer & a Soup Star is a match not made in heaven, but perhaps made in a bowl

[@TheLargeHardonCollider]

LOL, I loved the Raid ad, for the first time in a very long time I actually didn't skip thru the ad part to get to the content. Already love your dry humor, 30s of it just dripping with sarcasm was legitimately funny. I hope you still got paid man, and fuck it, if you can take more money from them while secretly mocking without them noticing, do it.

[@NthreeE]

Best showcase of an Ad I have ever seen. Showing it off with a big "meh" attitude lol

[@oliveryt7168]

Watch Spoonkids RSL ad XD

[@pagannova3621]

I love that you're covering Nightmare World, too. that's how great that little project is, compared to Dream World

[@mikewebsdale4777]

I appreciate your channel! I love your thorough research and painstakingly accurate descriptions. This video, though very informative was exhausting to watch. I can not imagine the effort and energy you put in to make such a complete examination, trying to be clear and factual when it just deserves ripping apart in flames.

[@rattymenace]

Great summary! I've been following this story for a few months and it is crazy how many issues have been cropping up

[@gypynkt]

37:45 @KiraTv The itch average duration thing is even funnier actually, because it's not itch measuring how long people are playing. The developer sets that duration in the metadata from A few seconds over About a half-hour up to Days or more. So them not knowing how to properly set up their itch page results in the average session showing up as 'A few seconds', as that's the default.

[@someonesomeone529]

Your take on the raid shadow legends was the best so far. You get the sponsorhip, they get their ad through our skull, no bullshit, no pretending like something just because you get paid to do so.

[@conservovirtus5796]

Yeah, it was funny, but Raid is a garbage game, that steals ideas and passes them off as their own.

[@alanrcastro8580]

correction: the second best one. No one was able to beat Internet Historian so far

[@biggestfan.]

Don't you disrespect the Internet Historian like that!

[@CathrineMacNiel]

@@alanrcastro8580 hey have you heard of raid shady Legions?

[@jorgicostava7217]

I've been urinating blood ever since that dark hooded man threw my dialysis machine out of the window, but I got 50,000 silver in RAID: Shamu Largess with his special code so it is totally worth it.

[@OminousToast]

People stop at the intersection with me too. That's because people don't usually walk in to traffic.

[@asteridshydrangea-jt2hf]

Come, let's be fair. Maybe Zach was just used to people plunging into traffic to get away from his dazzling personality at any cost.

[@BriarLeaf00]

Having just got into the mmo side of KZbin there really is a core group of people making very critical arguments and advocating for better games in the genre. I've got to say as someone just dipping thier toe in its quite nice, cheers Kira.

[@KiraTV1]

Glad to have you dude

[@SoundBubble]

Loved the Raid segment, actually made me laugh. Glad sex-dungeon Kira is a proper reoccurring character now

[@Bladderfishy]

The scam of this game doesn't disturb me as much as the fact that people were taken in by that knob. The fakery in him literally *shines*. And the fact that such a beautiful girl had a serious relationship with him ... My faith in humanity will never be the same.

[@WOLFPARANORMALUK]

She comes across as shallow as him to be honest

[@del4668]

Its not surprising that a narcissist is able to albeit temporarily attract a god looking girl. They are really good at quickly making friends/relationships.

[@Bladderfishy]

@@WOLFPARANORMALUK That's probably true. But given what she said, she does seem to value honesty. Which he obviously doesn't.

[@xaIlGG]

@@Bladderfishy And how would you be able to infer that from the information presented?

[@Bladderfishy]

@d R When did I say she was a good person? That's utterly irrelevant unless you believe men totally overlook a woman's looks when judging her value. No such man exists. You give this comment 6 months after the video launched? Get a grip, man.

[@tjmarx]

Dreamworld is a major amusement park in Australia that has existed since 1981 and owns the worldwide trademark. It's owned by Ardent Leisure, which is a division of Macquarie Bank, which according to their website are the world's largest infrastructure asset manager. They might be unhappy with their brand being used by this random game.

[@erinjordon829]

It's really easy to not do work if u don't know what you are doing. But it's crazy they'd rather put more effort into lying than just doing the work

[@ffurg8914]

Edit:@Micheal Kenner you're right Skiazos did changed his mind, shout out to him for having that strength of character. For the algorithm Also Callum deserves so much respect 1)He changed his mind when new information was presented, cause it seems like most people don't get you can do that. 2)When challenged he showed his massive set by starting nightmare world Also to that point you don't need to be an expert in a subject to tell when something is impressive or totally fucked. If I see a car in a tree, clearly someone fucked up, that's human error. I don't need to be an F1 driver to see that.

[@CallumUpton]

thankyou!

[@ingamingpc1634]

@@CallumUpton dude it took massive balls for you to say you were wrong don't change that kind of bravery is what we need in these trying times

[@michaelkenner3289]

Callum made nightmare world but the person who changed their opinion drastically was Skiazos. Am I missing something, otherwise you might have mixed two people up.

[@KnakuanaRka]

@@ingamingpc1634 What was he wrong about?

[@multirampage1]

41:33 "There isn't a single city in existence on earth that is less densely populated than the Dreamworld one" Inb4 Zach tries to fact check you pointing out Pripyat lol.

[@NautilusGoose]

0 in Pripyat but 500 people living in the exclusion zone which is pretty badass

[@ypsawbones3646]

@@NautilusGoose Yep there actual stalkers there Heck the scientists look like the ecologists

[@AreGeeBee]

@@NautilusGoose I bet it's very peaceful out there

[@hingeslevers]

Lot's of animals!

[@FercPolo]

"When I would stop at an intersection, you know, for cars and red lights, I would notice other people stop too! I figured, it must be my speakers playing the most GENERIC of hiphop!" - CCO Wulf.

[@brandon351smith]

My favorite part of the Kickstarter pitch video: **Upbeat piano music playing in background ** -pauses- "Aaaad my fiancee left me" **upbeat piano music resumes** Oh and... also, If one gets hit by a taxi cab ..twice....I'm not entirely certain wearing headphones had anything to do with it..

[@miklov]

I really enjoyed the high information density and linear story telling regarding this project. Thank you for covering it!

[@DonutGod69]

Mate, you got the best damn content on this site. Love your humor. Love your delivery. And I thought I’d never say this, do more sponsors! I loved that part… and I usually skip those!

[@jwhitely7]

Currently listening to this with Shokz bone conduction headphones which let me hear this in a machine shop and also hear people and things around me as they don't cover my ears.

[@justintabatabai8063]

I don’t play MMOs I just come here for the Kira stories. Thanks Kira

[@KiraTV1]

you're welcome dude

[@zealous404]

I've watched like Elyria stories from few content creators already but still going to watch through this one for sure x)

[@mikhailelizarov702]

Thaw was the best Raid Shadowlegends ad which I've ever seen. Please, keep doing it same way with other sponsored projects :)

[@KiraTV1]

Haha thanks bro, will try my best

[@Oriaks]

Watch Internet Historian's ads. They are hilarious.

[@Reac2]

You clearly have not seen the Internet Historian Raid Ads

[@mikhailelizarov702]

@@Oriaks I just did. Although it is funny, yes... but the way that youtuber communicates is not my cup of tea at all.

[@mikhailelizarov702]

@@Reac2 I just did. Although it is funny, yes... but the way that youtuber communicates with the audience is not my cup of tea at all.

[@morphman86]

As a software engineer who has tried game development plenty of times, i can tell you the two roles are very different. You need a completely different mindset. It is like asking a traditional French chef to design a McDonald's ice cream machine that doesn't break. Both roles are within the same general category (programming or food), but deal with vastly different challenges.

[@Trigg3rHippie]

Zack has too much crazy in his eyes, the giggling lunatic.

[@DemmyDemon]

Excellent summation, thank you. Hopefully Raid will let you be creative with the ads, as that makes me *not* skip them. I'm here for you and your content, not ad copy, but if you put your own spin on the ads they'll actually end up in my ears, and I'll be entertained by them. Cheers.

[@mkam9193]

>"hey sorry guys im making less content from now on" >releases hour long video following day

[@foxonoxengames757]

Great video man! 👍 You always cover the facts and everything so thoroughly. Great work man! Seriously! Cheers mate! 🍻

[@waberoid]

So being a game dev student. We are encouraged to use asset store items, ONLY IF we are running out of time or if we lack the people or skills to make those items. A lot of devs, mostly indie will do this, especially if it's just one person. More experienced people, will only buy asset store items for the code or blueprint and frankentstein a game using that, while making all their own models, particle effect, etc.

[@BlueEternities]

The definition of a con job. Props for finding it. Your research just proved what is already obvious to those of us wise enough to recognize the skeeviness emanating from this guy. You've truly done the internet a service. Good day sir.

[@StrahhbreeFox]

That Raid advert had me buckled 🤣👌🏻 Brilliant! And thanks for keeping us all updated on the scam artists of MMORPGs. I haven't played them in years but still watch your channel because I enjoyed them and your commentary is amazing. Keep up the good work! More funny Waifu gameplay pls 🥺🤣♥️

[@lorddrayvon1426]

To be fair to the ream, there is actually a city in the world with less of a population than Dreamworld. It’s called Plymouth, the legal capital of the island of Montserrat that has been completely abandoned since 1997 because it was destroyed and buried by volcanic ash.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

That promotional video is just hillarious "we added features every week" No, what they did was talking about adding features and writing them down every week. Nothing was added, as there was nothing to add it to. It's called procrastinating and I did that with much friends just as much, but we never thought about ever getting it into a game, our thoughts usually started with "wouldn't it be cool if..."

[@zvexevz]

oh man that Raid ad was hilarious. it's amazing that you were able to get paid for running a parody of the game that makes it look like the piece of shit it is. that's an accomplishment. I'm super happy and proud of you that you are able to get the income you need while not sacrificing your integrity one bit.

[@Vatayah]

Honestly i feel bad for backers that this project is still "developed"- now they have to endure them trashy asset flip updates. But ey, ez content for our fellow creators.

[@kagari1426]

It's sad but the cesspool that soulbound made would be worth playing over this

[@RyanBurnsRed]

I don't. Tons of people gave warnings about this scam the moment it appeared on KS. Anyone that backed this with or without doing research deserves it

[@danialyousaf6456]

Don't feel bad. There's tons of games out there and these idiots think that an idea is worth spending thousands on ? Not to mention an idea conceived by two people with no real experience in game development. I'm kinda considering doing something like this myself just to see who gets baited.

[@lemonybiscuits4824]

I feel sorry for the ycombo investors. 😁

[@jinxsoderling1399]

nah idiots who put money into projects without doing their background checks or any other form of check... idiots dont deserve sympathy

[@Unchainedful]

What was crazy about dreamworld was, by all of it concepts and gameplay, we already had a game released that was exactly like it, it was called Project Spark. Project Spark was exactly how Dreamworld was explained and shown. They could learn from Project Sparks failure and take a different turn on it.

[@Mywk]

And here I am playing Craftopia which is literally a game with "all other games" contained within, certainly not perfect but at least it's no "Dreamworld"! Thanks for this amazing recap Kira, keep it up.

[@Killdust99]

“More concerning than when I had to freeze my Sperm” -me who knows nothing about Kira: I’m fucjing sorry what

[@AwesometownUSA]

_spawn point: rich parents_

[@joshmarshall7610]

Awe, so sad, he lost his job as a waiter because of covid! When NYC started shutting down I lost my entire business! You don't see me trying to scam people out of their money! I really don't like this guy!

[@parallaxoldchannel]

The dude showed up at her modeling event to propose to her just like a manipulative person would BECAUSE she would most likely not turn him down in front of all of those ppl. What a punk.

[@nothobbesmufc949]

lying about the ring.....then gaslighting her....guy's a real pos.

[@Xemnin]

I love the lack of self-awareness this guy has leading him to repeatedly running into and get hit by traffic.

[@ShiKageMaru]

What kind of idiot runs into traffic just because they have earbuds in? It's still a street and that's where cars live.

[@machomandalf7932]

The amount of investigation you do for content on these videos is staggering. Well done!

[@johgranger1304]

I love these videos. I'm learning so much about what NOT to do... although a lot of this is "common sense". Always surprising how much money they manage to get with nothing to show.

[@T-rev33]

Wow these guys need to be held accountable. I've never heard of this game but that is just downright a scam. No two ways about it

[@dawson70]

I had a short lived job selling vacuum cleaners back in the early 90’s working 10+ hours a day. I only got paid if I made a sale, which only happened once (about $100) in my 2 weeks working there. Gas money, what’s that?🤔 They had some of us putting flyers in mailboxes while the rest responded to the suckers, err potential customers, that called back for a free in home demo. The company also offered a free 35mm camera for letting people like me demo the “best” vacuum cleaner ever invented. After the demo, we gave them a $1 camera that wasn’t even capable of taking a picture as compensation for their time. Keep in mind, this was during a time before cell phones as we know them today. Having a decent camera in the family was something that a lot of people valued, and was possibly the reason why weird uncle Bob came to all of the barbecues .😃 My long-winded story is to point out that scammers have been around forever, and these guys aren’t all that impressive, yet they’ve managed to make far more money than I did as a vacuum cleaner salesman. I guess I can somewhat respect the hustle since I have nothing to lose on this one. Dreamworld is not a new scam, and I honestly believe that karma is a thing they’ll have to deal with eventually. Thank you for doing your part in warning good people about giving straight-up scammers their money.👍

[@mebenn15]

You know I wear headphones all the time and it never prevents me from LOOKING BOTH WAYS BEFORE I CROSS!! But that's just me. lmao

[@Samantha360]

A Dreamworld ad was sponsored on this video 😂

[@KineticCode]

Girl leaving you because the ring is fake seems like a bad foundation for a marriage! Lying about the ring after she finds out is so much worse!

[@JACKBOOT12]

16::30 So essentially the turned the promise of a game in to a pyramid scheme I am mad and yet I am impressed since this is a completely new one for me

[@jackwb97]

You took the words right out of my mouth, rabbit hole is the perfect description for this absolute farse of a 'game'. Just how deep will they go? It just keeps going. Dream world are the embodiment of bad press can indeed be bad press. Edit: also the 20's falling out of the book f'ing killed me hahahhaha

[@kungfuvoodoo9889]

This has been a wild year in the MMO genre, I was starting to feel a bit burnt out on the WoW drama but at least this shitshow has continued to be extremely entertaining.

[@sneakybawls]

It's like going into Best Buy to buy a TV and being told you can buy a box that they aren't obligated to supply with a TV inside. And by buying the box you forfeit any chance at a refund for an empty box. How are people still backing this?!

[@killerxzone24]

I usually skip sponsor segments, but this one is brilliant and worth the watch! I had a good laugh thanks

[@davidshaw7549]

“Much like a dam built by rats pretending to be beavers…” Incredible analogy.

[@kwisatzhaderach1458]

It always makes me laugh when children call themselves a CEO

[@fightfan9739]

Anyone that pledged deserve to be scammed for being that stupid, I feel for those poor saps That dude has groomer vibes

[@DetectiveSiesta]

Come back to these videos and just wonder why developers don't just state they are inexperienced, new inspiring game developers. I guess they wouldn't make as much money in the short term but in the long term would develop a small community and eventually be able to monetize the game

[@ApeOfMyIdeal]

Watching this video on March 19th, 2024... And the first ad it shows is 2½ minutes of Dreamworld. KZbin AI seems to have developed a sense of irony.

[@p1zzaman]

So a software engineer, who worked at google and facebook as an intern, and then only 5 years as an actual full time engineer knows how to create a world that would scale with millions of players. Hmm... here I am an engineer in the Bay Area and Silicon Valley for 15 years, and I have no idea how he will achieve this. And seems like the guy doesn't know how to work with the Unreal Engine.

[@vizthex]

the fact that the game looks terrible is laughable as well. I made a damn good looking scene in like 5 minutes in unreal - the engine can do all the heavy lifting for you. now granted a single scene is harder to do than the various "worlds" they have, but still.

[@byrontait2690]

Kira I love your content it has opened my eyes to how much video game scams are out there and has made me not trust devs of any game until I see proof

[@EinheriV]

Good work on exposing and covering these scams.