$1,000 Snap-On Drill vs World's Strongest: Bosch, M18, Flex, DeWALT

[@jhansen6180]

Torque Channel is the thorn in the side of marketing departments everywhere!!!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

In this case i think we just accidently helped bolster some marketing claims, which per channel rules means we get 40 lashes with a strap wrench or have make another stun video video :D

[@hcgtiger4724]

Or great marketing if you sell good tools honestly

[@markk3948]

​@TorqueTestChannel your channel is top notch. Thank you gor all your hard work. Did you make a hole hawg video?

[@Redrickson1]

​​@@TorqueTestChannelou and project farm are always like that. Lol. Not sponsored, and quality, honest content.

[@jamesbynum3123]

Seriously. Imagine their R&D/marketing meetings: Exec 1: we're going to call this new impact The Milwaukee Killer and we'll market it as a 1000 ft lbs. Exec 2: don't forget about the Torque Test Channel. Exec 1: ...damnit.

[@gamerguy2159]

"If the tool has a turbo button, I'm gonna press it." -TTC, 2023

[@ol_brendo2350]

i want that on a sticker for the toolbox

[@rods333]

Flex has a turbo button

[@FoxBox923]

I want this on a shirt!

[@KRRZ350]

Vtec kicked in yo

[@andrewnel3945]

@@rods333that means I’m gonna press it

[@BoschToolsNA]

So cool to see PROFACTOR Hammer Drill/Driver come out on top! Thanks for sharing this awesome test.

[@mrbigberd]

You guys need to bring back 36v.

[@dellusionportland8867]

It is so cool indeed. Let's go Bosch! 💪 I love Bosch!

[@dellusionportland8867]

@@mrbigberd They don't have to, because they are getting the same 36V equivalent power out of their new 18V batteries System. I have tested that to prove that. So no need for that. Plus 18V is general market voltage for cordless tools.

[@mrbigberd]

@@dellusionportland8867 You can't beat the physics. Increasing power requires increasing ampacity or voltage. Getting that 2000w with just 18v means you require around 100 amps which simply can't be delivered effectively. This is why 8 or 12ah batteries offer better performance. Even then, windings that can consistently handle 100 amps must be quite large and heavy. This is why Makita introduced 36v (40v max) and DeWalt introduced flex 18/56v (20/60v max). A 36v system can deliver the same wattage without stressing the cells as much and at just 50 amps allowing more compact motors. Double up your batteries for 72v and you can deliver that power in just 25 amps which means you can make stronger motors for things like cordless table saws or routers.

[@dellusionportland8867]

@@mrbigberd Right! True what you say and their 18V batteries Profactor Batteries outperforms the 36V. Much respect

[@user-ii8dz4vu7n]

That Bosch looks like the ultimate metal drill! I know about half a dozen people who have broken the small bones in their hands because they were drilling steel and the drill smashed their hands into something. It's no joke and imo every drill should have that feature, like how almost every grinder has a kickback brake.

[@Factoryseconds123]

Most grinders including several in Milwaukee's FUEL line don't have kickback control.

[@SuperSecretSquirell]

A guy at my last job had to be put on light duty for a week because his SO drill caught while drilling through the thick aluminum of a tarp box, twisted his wrist and elbow, and tossed the box off of the table it was on. It pissed him off and made our tool guy take it back. 🤣

[@yorselrus1996]

The 18v Metabo HPT 4 1/2 grinder does have kickback control

[@QuockhanhPham20]

i think there is some model also have there kickback control not only bosch And Yup , having it is a good idea for protect ourself from being twisted hand

[@joshuaking34]

Any DeWalt with the Perform and Protect logo has a kick back brake.

[@romandaniels1389]

Worst injury of my life was from a drill’s kickback. Was holding it kittywumpus because I’m left handed, it kicked at thigh level and spun round and slapped my jewels. Swelled up to twice their normal size, spent an hour vomiting and 3 hours in ER. I couldn’t walk for days. I’m going to buy that Bosch, thanks for the bad memories but positive solutions ttc

[@deidjera]

Become a tradesman they said, it will be fun they said.

[@JUICYLED]

Reading this brought tears to my eyes ouch

[@stephenbridges2791]

That Bosch is the one to get. Surprisingly affordable, as well.

[@tjthrash0143]

That bosch is amazing. I want. Not just for the torque but the cool and useful angle finder. That would be so very helpful.

[@essentials1016]

Yeah, i've been using it for a couple of months and it's amazing. The angle controll is really useful.

[@dellusionportland8867]

@@essentials1016 It is very useful.

[@bmw128racer]

$972... The Apple-priced drill from Snap-On. Just plain nuts. 😵

[@Utuber-x44]

The brand with an apple like following.

[@bmw128racer]

@@Utuber-x44 In other words, lemmings.

[@gbeving3167]

Oh, and the warranty sucks

[@riba2233]

great testing as usual, thanks! just a note, bosch does make a 6ah pack with 21700 cells, they just call it 5.5ah for legal reasons (99wh pack limit). They also have a regular 5ah pack with 18650's, idk if it is available in the US though :)

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We never get anything cool :(

[@riba2233]

@@TorqueTestChannel :( I would like to help you but unfortunately can't ship batteries at all :|

[@macvos]

True, although they somehow seem to limit voltage to keep the total capacity below 100Wh. This means the extra power of the 3Ah cells is lost (it performs practically identical to the 8Ah pack with 4Ah cells), although lower maximum voltage means lower wear (and therefore probably better longevity) and probably better temps. They are also roughly 30% more affordable than the 8Ah packs.

[@riba2233]

@@macvos I am not sure if they limit the upper voltage level, or if they limit the discharge level. They also rate it higher than their 8ah model (1800 vs 2000w, although it is probably a bigger difference in real life). Even if they do limit the charge voltage, 3ah cells still have much lower IR and can provide more current so can give more power even at lower voltage level. And you don't have to limit the charge voltage that much to lose 0.25ah per cell :)

[@macvos]

@@riba2233 interesting. Here in Europe they rate the 5.5 Ah and 8 Ah the same, although initially they did rate the 5.5 slightly higher. I've seen someone measure the 4, 5.5, 8 and 12 Ah batteries on the German Bosch user forum. The 5.5 and 12 Ah did have comparable (lower) internal resistance compared to the others, indicating higher power compared to the 8 Ah pack. If I'm not mistaken however, he found out they limited upper voltage.

[@marcuszettergren8885]

We use that Bosh on more things than we should, mainly cause it is silent in a workshop environment. Bosh may be kinda meg where impacts goes, but man. Their drills and Miter saws are second to none. Check out their huge miter that you can shove against the wall. Crazy practical

[@dellusionportland8867]

I have that saw. It is a peach of a Miter Saw, quality

[@aydngulgun8936]

This is the GSB model with hammer drill mode and there is the GSR version that is just the dril, not a kombi. Also, Bosch has 5.5 amp/h batteries as well.

[@reignreincarnation5531]

I'm buying all the gsb brushless model tho.. but i was blur enough to have bought the gsr, so bought the gsb one afterwards.. good stuff

[@Nascar995]

I use this Bosch profactor drill on the daily at work and my Milwaukee-die-hard electrician coworkers have ALL been super impressed by it. Thing kicks ass, but is suuuuper heavy whivh over a full day’s use can cause some serious fatigue.

[@mrbigberd]

In the nicad days, 18v and 450 inch pounds was top-end. Today, I can get 300 inch pounds from my 12v drill. I use that for 90% of jobs. When I need more power for a few holes, a little extra weight isn't that bad. The real tragedy is Bosch abandoning their 36v lineup. Higher voltage allows smaller wires for the same output reducing overall weight.

[@bensmith6051]

Why people still purchase Snap-On cordless tools, is beyond me. Those loyalists are explained by having more money than sense.

[@Skelf71]

Well that confirms what i have seen! I've had the Bosch drill for about 6 months, its insane with a 6 or 8 amp battery!

[@tharedpotatowwhale]

I am a plumber and switched from a milwaukee gen3 to a Bosch Profactor. I use to to drill holes for pipe, drilling concrete for toilet flanges and it will do everything you ask it to do, its an absolute beast. It is a heavy drill and Ive leaned into it by just running a 12 amp battery with it everywhere. It is my favorite tool in my kit and it is the best bang for your buck you will find on the market.

[@thatguythatdoesstuff5899]

I'd love to see cordless circular saws tested for power output.

[@masonkaye5]

Same I really want to know the power of the 6.5in vs 7.25 in class

[@TorqueTestChannel]

It requires a different dyno motor, I only know that because it's currently a project

[@domfijac]

​@@TorqueTestChannelCome on, maybe a drive shaft guided by pillow bearings into the same test jig?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@domfijac It doesn't end up being an issue, just some lathe machined parts and a different battlebots motor. Circ saws makes power through a different RPM range, so you need a motor tailored to match that.

[@Pinz314]

Thank for testing the Profactor! Been using it a couple months and absolutely love it! That being said, you might have a same experience with the Bosch 12v die grinder, i feel its more powerful than my Hazet air one. Use the Bosch with 6 Ah batterys it eats the single row for breakfast. 😅

[@ToyotatechDK]

That SnapOn looks like it´s made 30 years ago in Tibet...

[@WhyFacetattoos]

There is no fucking way im paying 3x as much as a DeWalt dcf900 for a hammer drill from a monk LMFAO. Snap on is tripping and criminal to charge that much for a drill

[@m3chanist]

Haha, exactly, by Playskool. images-worker.bonanzastatic.com/afu/images/4caf/9308/35d9_13149527642/__12.jpg

[@A6Legit]

Itd be cool to see different installation drivers compared. I know Bosh, Milwaukee, and DeWalt have models. Bosh has two versions i believe

[@danrutkowski6295]

It'd be wicked to see some of those stud and joist drills compete as well as the cordless mixers like the DeWalt DCD130! I use that bad boy with an 8 in earth auger in the summertime to help the missus with her garden :)

[@bigboxes]

Very cool story. Just what I needed. Another tool that is super useful. 😛

[@tylerboyer2006]

It would be cool to see a battery adapter to run more amp hours on the SNAPON! Even if they won't make one :(

[@itsunoshiyuga]

get a BiTurbo bosch angle grinder.(15amp) :D i have it with x-lock system and it's nuts :D

[@KHALABEEB]

Id be very interested to see these battery adapters (Dewalt battery on Milwaukee tool etc..) tested. I've heard that some brands electronically limit the tools, and that using the adapters circumvents it?? Just curious. Thanks ttc

[@ronblack7870]

every time i try an adapter say 20v dewalt to old 18 v it fails. usually on a grinder. the internal solder joints melt. if using an official dewalt adapter it just stops working permanently as well.

[@amateurmountainradio]

@@ronblack7870which brands of adapters have you tried?

[@bluegizmo1983]

One thing that really irks me about these battery powered tool companies is, they all seem to intentionally make one or two killer products that outclass the other bands, and then they half ass the rest of their product lines. This is a problem because we all like to stick to one or two battery platform so we don't have a dozen different chargers with a dozen different battery's that each only work on one or two devices in our inventories!

[@scubasteve3032]

The ole bait and switch routine.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Hey man maybe they are all just doin' their darndest okay? :P

[@1schlom]

As someone who is married to Dewalt, it appears just imo Milwaukee would have to be the most consistent brand in terms of qaulity and durability. I think Dewalt is awesome too but it's all over the shop and a mixed bag😂😂 I bought into dewalt recently for nostalgia sake and also because everyone at work has Milwaukee... including everyone elses brothers sisters nephews cousins dogs uncle.

[@shadygunshow]

Not makita. They pour r&d into their tools and then everybody else comes and copies them. Just like Bosch, I’d say everybody tries to copy Bosch the most. I think they invented sds, and starlock, and x lock, and those installation drivers im pretty sure, and just lots more crap.

[@sage5296]

they probably aren't half assing it, it's more just that they aren't making it their primary R&D effort perhaps. These things surely aren't cheap to design

[@Seadalgo]

Congrats on 300k, well deserved

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Hey thanks!

[@riba2233]

@@TorqueTestChannel what I though you hit 1M already haha, how is this possible :)

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

​@@riba2233Lots and lots and lots of fanboys with their fingers in their ears and hands over their eyes, who don't want to know their tool box isn't the be-all end-all they've hyped it to be... 🙉🙈 That's my guess lol

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE We def lose quite a few subs on day 1 of some vids, but overall we are well above far beyond anywhere we thought the channel would go. So I'm more than pleased with 300K, it's immense

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

@@TorqueTestChannel That's hilarious, in a sad way 🥴 I can appreciate not wanting to become a sub, but to know what a channel is about and THEN decide "they betrayed me by... by... *_telling it like it is!!_* 😭😭"... makes ya hope those people don't have to make any life or death decisions ever! 😒 Anyways, we're all super please with what you're doing! Been with ya since you were at 90k, working at breaking 100k! ❤️ _(don't know how many came over from my post in AvE's comments [the original gas-powered impact], but I know many of them are here _*_now!_*_ 🤘🤘)_

[@caseyt8447]

YESSSSSSS, Thanks for testing drills!!!!! I use these alot for power tapping at work

[@vidpromjm]

Snap On 2 yr warranty on a $1000 drill😢 vs Bosch 6 years on a $200 drill😅. I think warranty terms should be an included metric in TTCs rankings.

[@mediocreman2]

Agreed. But yhat's only part of the equation though. The biggest part of a warranty is how likely you are to get approved for repair or replacement. Combine that with customer service, how long they take for repair or replacement, ease of submitting the claim or dealing with a local shop, how close those shops are and how many authorized repair centers there are etc. I can submit a claim to Milwaukee and send it off and they'll even fix stuff that wasn't even broken. With Ridgid I need to register the tools within 90 days to get their lifetime service agreement and who knows what they will approve. It would be hard to really compare without testing the claim process but I agree it is an important part to consider. A 90 day warranty from harbor getting is pretty bad.

[@H1zN]

@@mediocreman2 If you have the 36 month BOSCH Full Service, your device is normal in 3-5 Days repaired or you get a new device. And if you need a replacement device in the mean time - you will get one for free - at least here in europe (Germany, Switzerland, Austria)

[@vidpromjm]

Bosch warranty in Australia is 6 years on the tools and batteries which is unusual to say the least. Our consumer protection legislation is also quite strong so not much wiggle room for manufacturers to deny claims.

[@PhillyFixed]

So basically, Bosch needs to make a Profactor Freak.

[@robertcasey3528]

That's what I've been saying. I've been hoping for new improved impact driver that can match well with the drill.

[@dellusionportland8867]

Yes, i agree.

[@superspeeder]

TTC, given the effort and expense you’ve put into these testing rigs, I think it’s high time to get a proper lathe-turned shaft to hook your drills up with. Eliminating all that added motion will do three things: 1. Transfer power more efficiently, 2. Look far more professional, 3. Any motion left in the system will be a result of runout in the tool/chuck. Awesome testing as usual!!!

[@DmnkRocks]

Bosch makes (at least for the Euro Market - Here they're called ProCore - or Amp-Share) a 5.5A Battery (Only for shipping reason, as it sits right at 99Wh) - it has the same Cells as the 8Ah - but with lower capacity. They also perform almost identical to the 8Ah - and has the same weight. Also - Bosch puts a Coating on their Motor-winding that will burn off the first few times when under high load - nothing to worry here ;) Thanks for the Video - as always

[@donalexey]

I don't think the rating with 4 Ah batteries should matter. We all know that 1 row 21700 or 2 row 18600 is safe to use up to aprox. 700 Watts. That is why Bosch is shutting down the tool to save your batteries form earlier failure. Milwaukee, for example, does not have this type of control (at least in 12V tools) and sometimes batteries are hot to touch.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Agreed

[@gbudning]

Your experimental rigour and thoughtful analyses make this channel an incredible reference, but it's your one liners that keep me watching. Thanks for your amazing work!

[@JeffB1961]

1330n is on my to get list . i already have their profactor impact , 7 1/4 18v saw , 7/8 18v sds and standard impact . and i have 2 8amp batteries with 1 4amp and 2 2amp so i'm good . i'm just a DIYer now with a small side job here and there but i used top build for a living and my dewalt 20v stuff has consistently failed me so no more yellow for me . thanks for all the effort you put into these videos and thanks for sharing your results , jeff

[@skibum1610]

Ngl, I love how far this channel has come! Remember watching from the beginning and happy to see it's gotten so big and always improving testing. Great Job!

[@robertcasey3528]

Bosch has been expanding their North American tool lineup with their more powerful pro factor line up as well as drywall tools, hand tools and even outdoor power tools.

[@sterling1395]

I love your videos! Thank you for keeping up with them!

[@kylefowler5082]

I noticed no one in the comments seemed concerned about the Bosch drill smoking when being pushed hard. The ShopToolReviews channel did a review on the Bosch drill about a month ago and it smoked when being ran to it's limits. I wouldn't want a drill that smokes haha. I know the ranking charts are just a guide and some brands are playing dirty to win so personally I think the XGT Makita really wins. It's so powerful but stops before damaging itself. A well designed tool for sure

[@engineer_alv]

I did notice. But honestly both ShopToolREviews and TTC's drills were working alright and did not smoke afterwads even with more demanding tasks. Any other video I've seen of this drill hasn't brought any smoke at all. It doesn't speak wonders about that particular unit purchased/received but it could be something as trivial as some excess of grease they put in the factory. I would, though watch out closely within the next few weeks just to make sure it doesn't do that again and if it did would just have it replaced per warranty.

[@thechad7803]

That Snap On looks like it was made in the same factory as Warrior from Harbor Freight

[@ywe3]

The fact it has no frills or thrills and still costs almost 1k...that's should tell you how regulation kills industry.

[@omarkhan9966]

There's a sucker born every minute. Someone will buy the Snap On.

[@engineer_alv]

the Snap On reminds me of a Mexican company who sells Masterforce (Menards) power tools, they just re-paint them red slap a new logo and charge 2x to 3x what Menards sells these tools for. And they still justify their outrageous prices calling their repainted Menard's stuff super heavy duty like if they could compete with Milwaukee, DeWalt or Bosch. But since most people from Mexico have never been into a Menard's they have no clue they are buying prosumer grade power tools at premium tool prices.

[@ywe3]

@@engineer_alv i mean in terms of quality my snappy wrenches cannot be beat and if they are theyll replace em...but i would NEVER buy their power stuff

[@engineer_alv]

@@ywe3 agreed. They're tried and true as long as manual tools are concerned

[@djroskedjroske]

Thanks for testing Bosch. Hi from Serbia.

[@84Itsjames]

Would be great to see the new German Metabo drills tested as well. Would be interesting to see if you get similar results to the angle grinders. ie, exceptional performance.

[@rich8037]

I watch this channel as much as anything to admire the engineering and imagination you guys put into designing and building the testing apparatus. Hat tip! In terms of tool performance, it seems to me the main takeway is that you get an impressive amount of tool in your hand with these modern battery drills.

[@DMSparky]

@8:15 in the construction world sometimes we have no choice and it isn’t always practical to have a right angle drill with you everyday

[@KennyMinigun]

7:35 you can get more performance from that Bosch drill if you use 5.5Ah or 8Ah (double layer) batteries. The drill is marketed "Biturbo" motor and Bosch say that it can consume more amperage than their basic 4Ah ProCore battery can provide (Thus enhancing performance when connected to a bigger battery). The 5.5Ah battery is the same size and weights the same as 8Ah battery, so there is almost no sense in getting the 5.5Ah battery (maybe except for the shorter charging time)

[@elmadicine]

love to see the dark blue tools getting a W in the big boy categories, I really like their 12v line of products for household/light duty tasks

[@scottlamp3097]

I have been using the hammer drill version of that Bosch drill for a few months now. Drilling holes in concrete, mixing masonry, mixing drywall, running the tongue jack of my job trailer etc. only one minor complaint so far: the gear selector is sometimes hard to switch between high and low gear. Other then that it is as advertised. I do have several other drills for lighter duty jobs, so the size and weight are not a factor at all to me.

[@racer311990able]

Awesome testing guys! Kobalt XTR is the one I am curious about.

[@zackreuter6344]

That accelerometer powered anti-kickback feature is worth the price of the drill. I have a version of this drill that's several years old, and that one feature has saved me a lot of pain. Another thing about Bosch cordless tools that doesn't seem to ever get mentioned is their batteries seem to last forever in terms of cycles and surviving jobsite abuse. The Bosch 18 volt line really is industrial grade stuff. It's my main cordless line, and I've had excellent results with it. Love the channel! You guys are having way too much fun.

[@oddojaggins]

I'd like to see tests on makita LXT drills, especially the subcompact XFD11. I've seen huge differences in performance between 2 and 6 Amp hour batteries and you can hear it in the tool as wel

[@HeebzMedia]

For mechanics I believe the drill driver is more useful then hammer drills. For 1 they’re normally shorter. 2 there’s no concrete on cars. I would love to see the Dewalt dcd 800(i could send it to you) tested against maybe flex and makita’s compact models. Love your videos. Your awesome. Thank you!

[@richardkelleher1711]

congrats on 300k subscribers!!!! Question, how does the Snap-on warranty compare? Will they replace it if you burn it out? Should this be a category?

[@A6Legit]

5:26 Damn thats awesome. Ive always thought a round/bullseye level would be great in the back of a drill so you can get straight vertical when drilling holes. A digital sensor light makes sense and could be expanded to confirm X and Y axis square. May need offset for the chuck angle but id love that feature.

[@shadygunshow]

Craftsman drills had a surface level on them 20yrs ago

[@A6Legit]

@@shadygunshow Nobody does it anymore though. Wonder why? Seems like a good idea to me

[@shadygunshow]

@@A6Legit I dunno, I didn’t really use it except for my first couple of months. I actually drill at angles more than anything and just follow my bit by eye. Actually I do almost everything either by eye or with my laser level. No bubbles for me

[@A6Legit]

@@shadygunshow I drill by eye because it's my only option lol, it's usually good enough. Theres been times where I'm off a few degrees and it turned out to be an inconvenience. Particularly when installing hardware.

[@greentjmtl]

I'm sure it's already been accounted for. You use the battery/base to set the reference angle (doesn't have to be flat), and it shows the set angle relative to reference. It's not drill press precise though, the light shows green within a few degrees of set angle.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Love my dewalt hammer Drills and my xgt makita been using them way more then my Milwaukee these days

[@nismomike3182]

Would love to see some compact and 12v drills also

[@hazza2247]

i don’t know if compact drills exist

[@TheBostonstapler]

id be curious to see inside the drills how well they are made. I found that all my milwaukee tools that failed was due to a failure in the bearing. they are small!! I have 2 broken hackzalls, one m18 fuel and one m12 fuel, same bearing failure. I have a fuel grinder with a seized bearing. And you cant just replace the bearing, they are part of the motor. So yes maybe other brands are smaller, but at the cost of long term reliability ?

[@BobBenz55]

Nice….. I’m a massive Bosch fanboy 😁👍🏼

[@i_know_youre_right_but]

These snap on fan boys will never admit they’re being conned.

[@NONO-hz4vo]

I am not a Snap-On fanboy but the argument they have assuming they are in a shop where the tool truck stops by all the time is that they can hammer their tool and if anything goes wrong they have a new one that day or the next no questions asked. If you are on job sites and have to find a truck and don't know him personally you might as well get something for 1/3 the cost.

[@i_know_youre_right_but]

@@NONO-hz4vo I’m from the UK and have friends who say some parts take weeks, up to 3 months for the snap on dealer to get for them. Also, not sure how it is in the US, but I’m 99% certain that power tools don’t have a lifetime warranty?

[@user-oy4lk7fd9w]

Are you kidding? That's the only thing they talk about

[@SinisterShivers]

@@i_know_youre_right_but no lifetime warranty but a lifetime flat-rate repair. 120$ and the total tool is redone or replaced, not bad for power tools.

[@russellpottenger8584]

@@SinisterShivers Also, you can factor in buying a snap on tool at reduce costs on the secondary market (EBay) I just bought the Snap on bare tool for $225.00 shipped knowing that for the lifetime I own this tool for just about $120.00 as you mentioned, this tool will be refurbished to new standards no questions asked. Bottom line if you shop and buy wisely sometimes paying for a little bit more for a premium tool is worth it if you factor in the service of the tool. My .02

[@RandomGuy-qm3mg]

If your in the Bosch line the occasional free one or two batteries with purchase promotion is a pretty sweet deal.

[@emil2rs1]

Would be great to see a Fein tested, more specifically the ASCM 18, lots of RPM (400 - 3850), descent amount of torque 45Nm soft /90Nm hard, 4 gears, and a removable chuck to make it really short. I have one and it's great, but would be nice to see it tested against others. Just don't test the electric clutch, it horrible ;)

[@macvos]

They're probably very refined (or should I say reFeined? Shoot me, I'm a dad, so I'm now allowed to make bad puns), but purely based on rough power I expect them to perform well but not groundbreaking.

[@emil2rs1]

@@macvos Yeah, I'm not expecting them to be the best torque wise, but they have a lot of interesting features that some people (myself included) might like and therefor choose that over another stronger drill. The quality on the proper German made Fein's are also some of the best out there.

[@jesse33hdz]

When can you guys check out the metabo hpt 36v drill?

[@masonkaye5]

Would love to see kobalt xtr tested with 8ah xr battery the thing is an absolute monster compared to my old dewalts and Milwaukees

[@shadygunshow]

Kobalt? Hmmm. You were using brushed dewalt and milwaukees weren’t you? Gotta pay attention to the fine print bubby

[@masonkaye5]

@@shadygunshow no

[@dariusjonsson2358]

Batteries do make a huge difference. I put a 12ah battery on my Hercules 1/4" hex driver (looks ridiculous) and it actually busts off lugnuts of passenger cars super quick when its not hitting its over-current protection.

[@shadygunshow]

It’s in your head buddy. I haven’t heard of any 1/4” impact driver getting a boost in performance past a 4ah battery and the difference between 2ah and 4ah performance-wise isn’t that big.

[@dariusjonsson2358]

@@shadygunshow No its not it couldnt break lug nuts off with the smaller battery and it can with the big one. pretty clear evidence that a thirsty motor will cause a lot of voltage drop under load without enough cells.

[@shadygunshow]

@@dariusjonsson2358 what size battery does it NOT take these same exact lug nuts off with?

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

New sub here , thanks for having instrumented tests, next to Project Farm " We are going to test that" ,you have an awesome channel , really detailed with no bias.!

[@AndrewStrydomBRP]

Would definitely be interested in seeing some german metabo kit on the dyno, I would lend you my BS 18 LTX-3 BL Q, and I could lend you my Mafell A12 too (all mafell's drills are rebranded metabo) but the return shipping from the UK may be cost prohibitive.

[@seymoarsalvage]

Would like to see more Kobalt stuff, there XTR batts have 21700 cells, for "cheap"

[@theoldironqueen8224]

Don't you have the 5.5Ah Bosch ProCores in the states? Because I only use them exclusively, they contain the same cells but are limited to 99Wh so you can ship them without hazardous materials label in planes and stuff. They have the same output as the 8Ah❤

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We do not :(

[@riba2233]

they have higher power output, 2000w vs 1800w as rated by bosch (bit less in reality though)

[@macvos]

They don't use the same cells. The other ProCore/ProFactor batteries use Samsung 40T 4Ah cells. The 5.5Ah pack seems to use 3 Ah cells (probably 30T ones) voltage limited to 2.75 Ah. These cells are more powerful, but the voltage limit also limits power, making them perform practically equal to the 8Ah ones. The lower voltage does mean battery wear should be lower, as should temps.

[@theoldironqueen8224]

@@macvos I didn't know that, interessting, I thought they use the same cell with a limit in software because they wanted to avoid the 100wh shipping restrictions

[@macvos]

@@theoldironqueen8224 they do, but they start with 3Ah cells, not the otherwise used 4Ah ones

[@fuloplehel]

I have this bosch drill, and it's a great tool. In Europe is marketed with biturbo brushless motor. But the pro core 4Ah battery is not enough for this tool. The angle detection system is a great feature. The kick back control can be disabled from the interface.

[@ThatKid2Diesel]

Your videos are awesome. I need to look back. I've been watching for a while, but wonder if you have ever done a video on the affect of using battery adapters. I see them so much, and actually have a couple because I'm in the Ridgid line of tools, I have one to be able to run my Ryobi sprayer and pole saw, and one to run my milwaukee m18 tools as well and not have to have the tool brand battery, be able to use the Ridgid batteries I already have.. Just wonder real world testing how bad it hurts the tools performance.

[@Silverado58]

I love this channel❤ where do I go to look at the shirts? Is that on Etsy?

[@sorenludwig3978]

Over 40 nm without kickback control is a bloody wristbreaker.

[@wayne-oo]

Great test

[@raybod1775]

Maybe adding points to tools with extra features?

[@nickmagma7745]

I´d really like to see the 12v tools tested. Mainly the drivers and drills

[@LARULES100]

Those tools are Bichh weight.

[@toma.cnc1]

I have the older version of the Bosch, and a lot of broken drills, despite the "kick" protection ! 8.4 and 10.5mm ones, not 3 or 4 or 5... I really refrain from using it as i have several more of less powerful ones. Mine says 63NM of torque.

[@ContraVsGigi]

The new ones even allow you to dosable the kickback or set the sensitivity.

[@smartperson325]

DeWalt really needs a new top of the line hammer drill. Their current two models are outdated bringing good power but are way too big and heavy. They have the tech and showed it with their recent compact drills being some of the best in that category. I don't even want much more power they really just need to shorten their new drill a bit, make it lighter and add anti kick back and some other features would be a bonus.

[@jamesgeorge4874]

Mmmm TTC content after lots O beer, please and thank you. And as a 30 year auto tech,.I stopped buying S/O impacts since 2015. No bias, I'm an idiot.

[@DavidWeinberg-cm9xd]

I'm wondering what my OG 28V Milwaukee Hammer drill rated for only 600 inch lbs. would do against the competition? It's a real arm breaker? I purchased it 20 years ago, as soon as it was available at Grainger for $600? I used the crap out of it almost every day, worn the thing out, but still was usable? Sold it after 17 years of hard use, even drilling out 3/4" x 6" concrete anchors daily? Sold it at a pawn shop for $125?

[@georgeferlazzo7936]

Hello again, Torque Test Channel Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Question for you, Have tested cordless screwdrivers I'm looking for one to remove/installed screws. And have the ability to prevent over torque? As a Aircraft Mechanic. I maybe working on a wing. That would have a lot of screws. Again thank you 😊

[@AngelMartinez-ey3hu]

So 2 things, I would love to see a video on right angle (hole hawg) drills including both the super hawg and regular hawg from milwaukee and flex. Second, this drill is awesome, I only have milwaukee drills, but I'll definitely buy an adapter and put some high output batteries on it!

[@iiiiicp]

talking about mud mixers... there is an idea for a torque test (Dewalt Dcd130, milwaukee 2810, etc..)

[@douglashaight24]

I’m not sure if you have already, but you should do cheap and affordable drills like black and decker, hart etc

[@Beaches_south_of_L.A.]

This was a great episode.

[@gregerledung1449]

Hikoki DC36DC would be interesting to see. On paper its on pair with the Bosch

[@engineer_alv]

It is not available here yet. Only the DV36DA with Metabo HPT branding

[@backwoodsbrooksknives4625]

I'd like to see the tests with the new DeWalt dcd800 or dcd805 so maybe a compact drill comparison.

[@bdkj3e]

I saw a guy using a Milwaukee hole hog with a "custom" 9" hole saw bind up and hit him in the chest knocking him right off the top of a step ladder, hated using that thing.

[@tumelin]

Have you tested any of those drills with their largest batteries available since several seem to really favor larger batteries (flexvolt 15 amp hour, m18 12.0 etc)?

[@goncalovazpinto6261]

It would be nice to see the performance of the Bosch with the 12Ah battery! Also, would love to see the Fein ASCM 18 QM and the Mafell A18 thrown in!

[@SDSWrath004]

Those are pretty crazy results. Great video.

[@yodasbff3395]

Another great test, thanks for sharing.👍

[@TomsTimmervan]

Would be interesting to see the german metabo and mafell as wel, but i live in europe so sending them would be too expensive i am affraid.

[@adampetten1009]

Just ordered a Bosch 1330 drill, been wanting an excuse to try the Bosch for that drill, x lock and amp share program... hopefully the amp share keeps on sharing. I bet the Bosch would outlast that flex too, I feel the build quality is higher

[@Dravus-xs1bu]

Nice video as usual. Have you guys tested the Metabo HPT DV36DA yet? Just curious.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

No sir

[@bahadryldz2346]

Yeni çıkan hikoki dv36dc modeli var kesinlikle test etmeye değer 100nm yumuşak tork sunuyor kesin ilk sıraya yerleşecektir

[@LORFCASTER]

Wonder what the bosch would have rated at with the 3 row 12ah 21700 pack. O_O Also, i have heard bad things about the accuracy of the angle light on the bosch ( heard its good enough but not precise ). I dont understand why no tool company puts a bubble level on the back of a drill.

[@hermanbril2682]

Nice! I do wish sometimes to see a Festool included😞 Love the video's!

[@tonio172]

Bosch does a 5.5ah procore battery with 21700 cells, they also make 5ah 18650 and 6ah 18650 here in europe. We can also buy the 12ah procore 21700 cells

[@olgajoachimosmundsen4647]

Bosch did use to sell a 6ah battery 18650 and also eneracer 6,3 20800, and 7ah procore 21700 cells. The latter two were experimental I think, before profactor

[@engineer_alv]

Bosch still sells 4Ah, 5Ah, and 6Ah batteries with 18650 cells worldwide. It's just that they passed out these in North America once the CORE batteries were released. Also, that Eneracer 6.3Ah was sold in North America as a 6.3Ah CORE battery back in 2017 or so. It was discontinued a couple years ago, though. Its price was not competitive against the 8Ah CORE batteries.

[@sakogu]

Id still like to see the hole hawg and superhawg, other hawg like offerings It would be great to know if the size and weight are worth it on those, they are also popular high priced offerings from most manufacturers for the most part anymore.

[@RyanHipp]

Thank you for pushing me over the edge to move to Bosch from Ryobi as my upgrade brand.

[@drshadowfan96]

The idea of mwo kind of cuts out gearing from the equation right? So a 7amp mixing drill and a 7 amp hammer drill should both be high 600- low 700s regardless of gearing?

[@frankmontez6853]

Let's face it all these tools are pretty close to each other and will suit a DIY needs fine but maybe a pro needs more .. Yeah thought Bosch was largely ignored by YT videos thought it was darn good . glad someone finally put it to the test . Kudos to you 👍👍

[@petertorregrossa4447]

Can you do some dyno runs with impacts using battery adapters and cross platform batteries 18-20v to see if you gain or lose any power?

[@HeyMikeFalcone]

What does difference would the hammer drill function have on these tests? Have you compared them? I’ve searched but didn’t see one. Thanks!