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Buying a used bike, or want to talk bikes for a good hour. Good times, come along!
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[@damnbikerw5043]

Damn! I’ve been buying bikes for nearly 40 years and as I watched this video, I originally expected to pick up a tip or two, but instead, I am wowed by how much I learned from Chris during this video. Thank you very much sir!

[@UpAllNight91]

Ohh nice! Glad to hear it didn't disappoint!

[@tndeere2]

Excellent info. My son bought a 2023 Husky 150 in 2023. Had 70 hours on it. if the original owner had said it had 25 I would have believed him it was so clean.

[@UpAllNight91]

Yes Sir, thats the best way to buy them! Good find

[@tatewilliamson7931]

Man I watch your channel a good bit. I’m so glad I found your channel as I work on bikes also. But this is jacking my sleep schedule up!😂 always great videos.

[@UpAllNight91]

Thanks! LoL. Jacking your sleep up 😂.

[@tndeere]

When you ment someone has been inside the engine and not all mechanics are good mechanics, think you are talking about me LOL!! Being a Life long Rider at age 57 and having 3 adult sons who have ridden since they were 5 we have purchased lots of bikes some good some not so good. I usually can tell in a couple of minutes by talking to the owner if I'm going to buy it or not.We did buy a 05 KX125 with bad crank seals and the owner said he thought it had some carburator trouble.Feel like he was honest just did'nt know.We got in it for $1500 and after a full rebuild on the engine and a complete frame off build turned out to be great bike.Was good expierence for me and my son doing the frame off replacing all bearings and seals,sent cylinder off for new nika-seal coating,powder coated the frame ,new plastics,tires and some other goodies. Still have it, runs amazing and has been a great bike for us.

[@UpAllNight91]

LoL, Thats good times! I too can usually tell within a few minutes too and a quick glance at the bike. Thats a good story on the KX125 and cool its still around. Good stuff. I do know when people sell a bike not running sometimes they really dont know and are guessing whats wrong with it, I probably should have mentioned that but thats surely true and I go into the deal with that in mind and its all on me since I'm the one planning on fixing it. 👍

[@joelatkinson2080]

I guessed higher on all the bikes that weren't yours because I think it's a good idea over estimate the hours rather than underestimate on any used bike and I guessed lower on your bike with 300 hours because they are so well maintained and didn't look like it had more than 150 hours. Great video, lots of good information.

[@UpAllNight91]

Thanks Joel. I agree, better to judge higher than lower to be safe.

[@FarmFlying]

Incredible depth of knowledge about bikes.

[@UpAllNight91]

Thanks!

[@NastyNaz1000]

Love your videos keep them coming 💪🏾

[@UpAllNight91]

Thanks, Will do my best!

[@danielyoungblood101]

Thanks for the tips!! Great video!!

[@UpAllNight91]

Thanks Daniel!

[@falcorcrow]

great video. thank you sir!

[@UpAllNight91]

Your welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@keithdaviau7582]

Good points sir

[@UpAllNight91]

Thanks!

[@michaelgarland579]

This like my bike i bought it used yz125 2003 an when my mechanic fix my gears under cuted them he found the bike was missing a lot of washers an a few other things now we fix all that its good but u never know what ur getting i got mine on Facebook

[@UpAllNight91]

Yup. Both of my bikes where found on facebook.

[@rockman49er]

Lol I got a small yard so I put 52 teeth sprocket on my kx250 and that helped alot because mine was setup for track has a fmf fatty 😮

[@UpAllNight91]

Yes sir, Why not take her out to a track or riding area?

[@matzmonkey88]

Sick vid boss. I got a pretty good deal on a yz250f the other day, only downside is the oil drain plug threads are completely gone. Planning on doing timesert… any recommendations on best way to keep shavings out of the motor? I’ve heard compressed air through fill cap and super grease the tap. Whatcha think?? Timesert best fix?

[@UpAllNight91]

Hello. I honesty don't have any experience repairing threads for the drain bolts on dirt bikes. On my own bikes I have never stripped them, and on customers bikes if its stripped out I usually only suggest replacing the case. I usually suggest that route because it seems most drain bolt thread repairs leaves the bike with a slight oil leak, and or it doesn't hold and last long. But I do like the compressed air idea to push the shavings out.

[@matzmonkey88]

@@UpAllNight91 The compressed air worked really well and the timesert deal is perfect so far, fingers crossed. I’ll report back if it leaks lol. Ty man!

[@matzmonkey88]

@@UpAllNight91 also for reference, the drain bolt that came out is a m10x1.25 and factory I’m pretty sure it’s m10x1.5… ding dongs just threw it in and cranked it haha 🤦‍♂️

[@UpAllNight91]

@@matzmonkey88 Right on. Hopefully that does well for you. Will surely save you a ton of work changing out the cases.

[@danieldemayo6209]

Just bought a bike. Wish I saw this first lol some common sense stuff but def things I wouldn’t think of. Thanks

[@UpAllNight91]

Yes Sir!

[@danieldemayo6209]

@@UpAllNight91 I was told, and the odometer says, 1500 miles and 80 hours. It’s a 2012 KTM 300 xcw completely stock (except for protective stuff), but somewhere along the way I feel like something isn’t adding up lol. I paid $4300 so I guess will see. I’m going to check the bolts on the cylinder tonight. That’s such a simple thing I didn’t even think of! Tell the chickens I said hi.

[@UpAllNight91]

@@danieldemayo6209 I sure will! Hopefully its only and a true 80 hours

[@MrFPSWisconsin]

That first yz125 had at least 75!!!

[@UpAllNight91]

Yeah, I agree its somewhere up there.

[@MountainMXOfficial]

After watching the whole video imma guess the KTM 150 SX has 130 hours, 85 hours for your yz125. Thanks for the video!

[@UpAllNight91]

Your welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@bryantew2078]

I have a 2023 rmz450 and I was wondering how many hours should I go before I do a top end? and also how many hours before a bottom end ?

[@UpAllNight91]

Hello. 100 hours for a 450 is good and safe for most. If the rider is very fast or works the motor very hard than that can be shortened to 60 hours. I would suggest a new timing chain too at the same time. The crank can live well over 200 hours if not riden hard and taken care of, however if its being used for track use with big jumps then 200 hours is good for a crankshaft to keep the bike good and safe

[@keithalexander36]

Great...now there is going to be less used bikes under 25hrs for me to buy. Good job drying up the good bikes on the used market. Be safe guys and dont moto junk.

[@UpAllNight91]

Better yet go buy a brand new bike to add more fish in the lake.

[@user-wd2xj5gm6c]

In your professional opinion, my son has a brand new 2024 kx112 he’s only ridden it 7 hours. And the gear oil is milky Water pump shaft seal leaking into gearbox?? Idk any other way it could be milky

[@UpAllNight91]

Hello. Yes if the water pump impeller seal goes bad coolant will get into the gear oil and get all milky. So strange for a bike with only 7 hours but I guess anything can happen.

[@user-wd2xj5gm6c]

@@UpAllNight91 yess but I didn’t lose any coolant

[@UpAllNight91]

@@user-wd2xj5gm6c Ok. Sometimes it doesnt take much coolant in the oil to make a milky mess but to be safe maybe drain the oil and get it all cleaned out. It can take a few oil changes to get all the milky stuff out so just use cheap oil for the flushing. Then see if it becomes milky again. Sometimes water can get in the motor through the vent hose if the bike was riden through creeks and water holes, so that could be all it is. But if it keeps happening then surely just replace the water pump impellar seal.

[@user-wd2xj5gm6c]

@@UpAllNight91 yes thanks for the advice Drained it 3 times and ran it in between changes Changed it one more time and it has not gotten milky yet and he rode it hard all day

[@UpAllNight91]

@@user-wd2xj5gm6c Sweet, sounds like you will be good to go.

[@MrFPSWisconsin]

I bought a 2023 YZ250FX in December. I got it used, guy said he rode it once around the house. Hooked into the ECU .01 hours, and it looked like it. 7600$. Bought my 2019 YZ250 for 6k last year 1.2 hours on the meter. Both of these bikes had stock tires with all the nipples, even on the middle knobs of the rear tires. These deals are out there. I will not buy a used bike with more than 5 hours on it again. Been there done that.

[@UpAllNight91]

Right on! The newer the better for sure!

[@Shreddylife]

I agree with most of what you explained but why not ask the seller to do compression test or test it yourself when inspecting the bike? It just saved me from buying a warn out banshee and the seller didn't even realize the compression was low, true or not. I could hear it while it was running in the video he shared and noticed the bike was smoking more than normal... I respectfully explained I was not looking for a bike I was going to have to rebuild right after purchasing it and he understood. He said he planned on rebuilding the top end and relisting the bike. If I didn't ask him to test it or did the compression test myself l would have screwed myself over. So I highly disagree with not doing a compression test while purchasing a used 2 stroke. That tells you a lot about what condition the top end is in.

[@UpAllNight91]

Even a banshee, the compression can be felt at the kicker lever with your hand. When doing a compression test on a 2 stroke, how fast its kicked can very the reading significantly. I can get about 150 pounds on a 250 smoker with my foot, the next guy might only get 120, and if I put a drill on the stator nut and spin the motor quickly it will read 220. So I feel its pretty pointless when a quick feel at the lever with my hand tells me all I need to know. This is why I suggest being familiar with what your buying. This video was primarily for track riders on track bikes. On a track bike I expect a top end to be done right off the rip anyway. The main thing is, is the bike truly a low how bike or is it a high hour bike. I would rather buy a low hour bike with low compression than a high hour bike with great compression. Personally. Because I will be doing a top end right away anyway. I can bring compression back, but I cant lower the bikes overall hours.

[@Shreddylife]

@@UpAllNight91 I get that but compression still gives you a good idea on when it's time to do a rebuild imo. That's why you test it multiple times and take the average psi from kicking it over like you normally would. This has been a rule of thumb for me for years and it's never failed me while buying a used bike. Which I have bought many and have raced many used bikes while growing up. We never had the luxury of going to the dealership and buying brand new bikes when I race lol

[@UpAllNight91]

Exact compression can vary depending on how fast it is kicked. The biggest threat isn't low compression, its breaking a piston. A piston ran too long can still have great compression right before it gives up and breaks. For this reason I suggest doing a top end right away even if the compression is good. I'm not so much worried about the rings, I'm more worried about the piston.

[@Shreddylife]

@@UpAllNight91 That's why you kick it over at the same pace and get an idea where the compression is at lol I agree with tossing in a new piston if you buy a used bike if you want peace of mind but I have purchased plenty of used bikes and ran the them for a lot of hours and never had a piston just break out of no where. Have you?

[@UpAllNight91]

In my early days, oh yeah broke pistons. Today no, I do a top end right away. I do repair a lot of customers bikes with broken pistons though. I have one here right now actually. Kx112. 50 hours on the stock piston, it gave up and is stuck in the crank

[@MrFPSWisconsin]

First ktm - 25, second ktm - 85, third ktm - 150, your yz 125 - 65, your yz 250 - 75, your wife’s yz 125 - 75

[@UpAllNight91]

You guessed the KTMs pretty right on

[@malikedwards2180]

Now im convinced i got shafted on my supposed 30 hour yz450f. The ecu hours does not match the wear on the bike.. scumbags

[@UpAllNight91]

Crap, thats a bummer

[@malikedwards2180]

@UpAllNight91 thanks alot for the video but.. I'm really going in equipped with the knowledge you shared next time I buy a bike. I'm telling anyone I can to subscribe to your channel

[@UpAllNight91]

@@malikedwards2180 Thanks man, Appreciate it!

[@UpAllNight91]

Appreciate the video suggestion as well!

[@connorwilson8078]

Rule number 1 : don’t buy a used bike 😅 People do not sell bikes when working well. They either get sold not working because they’ve fucked it , or if they do they get rebuilt just for selling it,buy a cheaper new bike , buncha shot boxes People always say you should worry about this or should know that, not true. Just change oil regularly and look after it and you won’t have a problem , only risky if you’re driving miles from home with no van etc

[@UpAllNight91]

My next bike will be new, treating myself. But I have saved a lot of money buy very low hour bikes throughout the years and so far its went well. You just gotten make sure they are very very low hours and taken care of.

[@bradley7723]

Excellent advice to follow. It's tough nowadays buying a quality used bike with the amount of flippers on the market. Myself I've been lucky enough to have over a 20yr friendship with my local dealer. There has been many times when someone's bought a bike and traded it in with virtually no hours on it because it was to much for them or not to their liking and my dealer would let me know about it and give me a great deal on it knowing that I'm a repeat customer. On another note Beavis has now got a big head after having a video about him 😂 and is strutting into the shop like, look at me I want more screen time and I'm willing to get it by any means. Watch your ankles if I don't get it. Again great video. 🏜👍

[@UpAllNight91]

Thanks and Right, flippers always make it hard, grabbing the good deals before we can get there. Beavis lol, we picked him up a couple new girlfriends, hes one lucky guy!