1.19 Skyblock: Automatic Deepslate Farm (Episode 47)

Automating a potion based deepslate farm
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[@avocado1st]

I'm pretty sure it's because of y

[@HenryWeese]

Interesting, but does this explain how 3 or 4 blocks are able to be transformed if it's only down to a one block "rounding" error? Genuinely curious

[@BisUm3]

trunc(Y-1) .. round(Y+1)

[@avocado1st]

@@HenryWeese It's seems intentional. It expands bounding box of the potion entity by 2 up and down (on y axis) and by 4 in xz. So you get a box slightly larger than 4x2x4. Then it converts all blocks with coords >= truncated lower bound and < untruncated upper bounds. Also I think that position of potion when hitting full block from above is not an integer, but slightly above (if it was exactly at the grid there would be no issue with truncating).

[@monkepog3236]

hey ilmango, i wanna say this series is absolutely amazing and i appreciate that you are continuing your hard work despite some people not liking creative content. you are the youtuber and you can make your own decisions, if you decide that working in creative then survival is the best for your and less time consuming do that! it also means you will get more time to play survival and more time to edit rather than messing around with farms in survival that haven't been designed. good luck with the series ilmango, loving it so far! edit: many people love watching you design farms in creative, don't let the negative thoughts get to you. keep up with the great work.

[@jamess.7811]

"you are the KZbin"

[@MrCimik]

I'd also like to add that the thought process of designing the farms is much more interesting to me than the actual building part.

[@yt.personal.identification]

I agree totally. I may choose to do it differently, but watching the whole process is quite refreshing when compared to the typical video watching someone build something designed off-screen.

[@JacksonCantSing]

Agreed same same same ❤

[@tlarsen1221]

​@@yt.personal.identification that's why I watch guys like mango and gnembon because they explain WHY a farm works. Not just doing block by block tutorials

[@ergomate9092]

The issue with the deepslate generator might just be down to timing. The splash potion might land while the lower layer is in motion, stopping them from converting.

[@RobertHarris1]

He would’ve picked that up in creative

[@danielngmoen3901]

could the problem be the velocity of the potion? Since the potion brewer was built on top of the stone generator with no distance it doesn't get time to accelerate much

[@lindleya]

that was my thought as well. in the test world there was a few blocks between the soul sand and the stone platform, but in the skyblock world it was right on top

[@bluesillybeard]

It could also be a weird numerical accuracy bug, but velocity sounds more likely to me.

[@mikaelforland]

So I know splash potion gives a bigger effect on mobs if you hit them directly and less if it land on the block next to it. Maybe height and speed gives off a bigger splash radius.

[@XenophonSoulis]

Velocity is the first thing I thought too

[@Cyberguy42]

That's my guess too: the potion's velocity determines how far it travels between ticks and therefore how far it can penetrate the stone before the collision is detected. With the large drop height, the potion apparently has enough velocity to carry it far enough into the upper stone block to affect the block layer below. I just realized that this is also the reason for some problems with one of my item collection systems! The important part is that the system relied on a tripwire to detect falling items. It worked perfectly creative, but not when I built the collection system a few blocks lower in survival. The items must be going straight from one side of the tripwire bounding box to the other without ever actually entering it.

[@UGAlawdawg]

Ilmango, I loved the time-lapse cold open. This series is day one KZbin content for me. I don’t even play Minecraft anymore. I just appreciate quality content… and this is it my friend. Keep up the great work.

[@odrag.29]

I would like to have more use of the "useless" potions like we had with dirt to mud.

[@JACKHARRINGTON]

In vanilla, yea.

[@lacrimursus8727]

@ilmango The conversion follows the same area of effect rules as thrown splash potions - the affected area is a rectangular prism 8.25×8.25×4.25 blocks surrounding the point of impact. (The fractions rounding off are why the effect is directional.) This means using splash potions from a dispenser could actually convert two different streams of stone (above and below the dispenser) but I wasn't able to figure out any way to make that design actually work, I couldn't fit two stone generators close enough together.

[@ilmango]

I guess the rounding is the reason why it doesn't work in the negative values for the double layer. thanks for the insight

[@lacrimursus8727]

If you fire the dispenser inside a solid cube of stone, it will convert a roughly 9x8x4 area surrounding the dispenser with a single potion. I think you may be getting diminishing returns from trying to aim the potion so carefully. On my world I just gave up and oriented the machine so that I only had to count to 8 when firing (because I couldn’t figure out counting to 9 in redstone binary lol)

[@millinoid2151]

If you use the alignment mechanism from a dropper while pushing a 4x9x4 cuboid into a 5x9x4 cuboid provided the orientation is correct and with the right timing I think a 9x9x4 conversion would be possible to automate… Basically sandwich the thick potion in the direct center of the blocks with perfect timing No easy feat but a fun challenge i kindof want to mess around with

[@thefack149]

I was thinking subchunks, but with your avatar that close to the action, it shouldn't matter. That said, rounding negative numbers could definitely change things. Love the series

[@ninjmaster5609]

does this mean if you throw it perfectly you could get a sphere

[@oussamaokbi]

I just be sitting here watching thinking to myself : "What the hell kinda game Mango and the scicraft server people play?" Like seriously, my man has a bespoke design idea for any random freaking build he thinks of ready in his brain that he either adds on or completely revamps. This is by far the most impressive series from a creative redstone standpoint to the point where any single episode could have a build another youtuber would stretch over a whole season of content . Everything you do is honestly impressive mango you trully are an inspiration!

[@theaureliasys6362]

Ok. Lemme get this straight. Mango spends a lot of time to align potions but then only goes for 2 players instead of 2 and 7/9ths layers (ie, two full layers, and the top most only the outer lanes that guaranteed don't interfere with the option) Redstoners and optimization properties.

[@hellterminator]

Yeah that was a weird one. All he had to do was put in three pistons to pull a block out and to the side, the push it back in after the conversion. _Much_ simpler than the potion aligning.

[@TMinusRecords]

2:30 Always appreciate the music sync

[@CaiGwatkin]

Thanks to the massive render distance and the casual flying around, this world feels so amazing. Having understood the massive effort to get to this point and everything along the way makes it very impressive

[@my-king]

Ok, I'll grab some food and be watching in a min. You made my night Ilmango!

[@NinF37]

I know it’s dumb, but it would have been cool if they did this but with infested stone, to give the silverfish spawner a use

[@reedworsham5643]

a potential way to allow for the 4 layer design to be simple and reliable would be to just not push any deepslate into rows where the snow layer could be affected, and just accept the loss of ~11% at most of the theoretically possible output of a more complicated farm.

[@danielngmoen3901]

from the intro alone I crave snacks because I know it will be a banger

[@mippymagic8317]

"And put a dispenser here" nice subtle tf2 reference, "put dispenser here" -heavy 2007

[@danielsmith6494]

ilmango - while you were attempting to build a two layer deepslate farm you in fact ended up building a 2 for 1 cobbled deepslate and smooth stone farm! glass half full. Thank you so much for a great episode and series.

[@morphyox6453]

It is nice to see you struggling too. I often break my brain over stuff that doesn't work after following a block by block tutorial of some simple farm...

[@Nevir202]

Enjoyed how as he was whacking the endermites, some of them flying off to the right made it look like he was sorting them lol.

[@habretho]

The creative segments were great in this one, I love the troubleshooting of these farms. I always learn something new about the game and it's mechanics as well as here some cool insight into how to align strange entities. defiantly keep it up! love this series, thank you :D

[@krizi8032]

Maybe it doesn't work because of the travel time of the potion? I don't know if it accelerates when it drops down but maybe it only converts one later because it didn't build enough speed to get to the second layer before disappearing?

[@laurier9436]

To make your deepslate converter 3 layers, you could use a piston system with honey/slime blocks that move diagonally (forward 1 block, down 1 block), moves the blocks on the side away, and you figure out the rest.

[@phantombyte00]

I wonder if the stone gets converted to deepslate by using the lingering splash potion, by pushing new stone blocks under the lingering potion hitbox to see if they get converted. Although it is incovenient to get lingering potions, this would be a nice reason to farm the ender dragon for lingering potions : )

[@stevejohncockram]

It doesn't.

[@sebastiangrau8409]

Lingering potions don’t actually make the effect clouds for potions with no effects

[@lacrimursus8727]

Requires neither lingering nor splash. In the vid mango even shows right clicking stone with a regular thick potion and getting an empty bottle back; all the mod looks for is the effect of a thick potion on a stone block. Regular potion -> targeted block, splash potion -> regular vanilla splash potion range

[@phantombyte00]

​@@stevejohncockram Thanks!

[@phantombyte00]

@@sebastiangrau8409 Thanks for the info!

[@mrkaro7468]

Love the intro time laps.

[@NumericFork]

To fix the farm, you could remove a single line of stone (and the stone generator for that line) so the potion falls one block lower.

[@phantombyte00]

Possible workaround for the second layer not converting to deepslate: removing the entire middle row where the potion drops. Leave a block where the potion would drop to see if both layers get converted. Maybe add a snow layer or two like you showed when converting 3-4 layers. PD: I noticed that on the creative world there is an obsidian block behind the soul sand (minute 23:51) and you don't have it on the survival world (minute 26:38), I don't think this is the issue but I it could be worth the try

[@dx8pi6o48]

Song at the start is Backseat Rider by Lupus Nocte

[@MindlessTurtle]

Cool trivia on the origins of the thick / mundane potions.

[@konto-fu9tq]

i appreciate the commitment. i would 100% just turn on the stone generator and place a dispenser hooked up to a clock next to the blast chamber

[@geoffdavids7647]

To increase the efficiency while keeping simplicty down, you could have sacrificed one line of the block, and pushed in four layers of stone in two chunks either side of the block. That would have meant you could have a stationary landing spot for the splash potion in the middle.

[@johanottoson1373]

Yo mangmang you forgot the episode nbr on this one, it’s 47! ;)

[@akshatchheda1102]

love how you use the non vanilla mechanics and still manage to create an automatic farm out of it. Wish these mechanics were in vanilla tho. especially the autocrafting one

[@TobiasAG]

Mango you should choose another chunk to build because the new farms are blocking the view of it. Maybe restore a chunk close to your new storage/base!

[@billleiker5314]

I'm like the intro music today. Well done as always!

[@GoozyaStudio]

I like how you yeeted those endermites in the beginning :D

[@kadenvanciel9335]

Mumbo after seeing the conversion of stone to deepslate: Hold my beer.

[@hellohi2516]

If you want to fix the one layer issue with the survival farm without much alteration, maybe you could remove the upper row where the potion falls to get it back to 2 layers.

[@paulelanjikal9710]

Haha at 24:56 "The timings are not working anymore", I noticed that you didn't make any timing mistakes, you just forgot to take out the stone block you had used to trigger the observer earlier... was fun to notice the mistake early on and then watch chaos ensue :DD

[@BasilWallace]

I feel like with white concrete unlocked you've reached peak Mango

[@TheCatAliasTNT2k]

Nice idea using the bubble column. If you want to do three layers, it might be able, if you use iron bars for the "empty block". You just need to take them out (they do not conduct redstone signals) like the podzol earlier and reuse them (make a "closed circuit" for iron bars using block conveyors).

[@Heyght]

Ilmango just created a new minigame: Whack-a-endermite

[@mrbusch9126]

For your Sugar Cane Farme You could Use your simplified Baboo Farm Design and build a 5, 10, 15... wide Strip. No roof needed it never gows to high. Just a 5x64 Strip might be enough. For Rockets. I don't know what Raids it might have. But it would be intressting. I'm not finished with mine in Singleplayer. I just need to build up a good colection System. Maybe I just put Hopper Spam under Mud. I'd like to See some smaller farms that are easyer to recreate than the huge ones in Sicraft

[@gavin5410]

imagine if you could smelt any item in a furnace, but if it wasn't the right type of item for any recipes it made a "pile of burnt trash", that's essentially what the useless potions are

[@zer0701]

"Fully automatic diamond farm - it's always good clickbait" lmao, good one

[@newtonthenewt1400]

The 1 layer could just be because of velocity of the potion or rounding error, or something like that. Also, with the idea that you could get an extra layer by having a 1-block gap not being feasible, you could just have a one-row gap on the top layer which would add an extra 72 deepslate blocks per potion. However, having that gap may interfere with timings of course.

[@Alanhallow]

You can get 234 blocks converted with one potion if you don't use the center piston of the top layer to push the stone. Or even 306 if you don't use it without top 2 pistons and the snow layers.

[@MugooMeister]

your farm caught on fire at the end Love your stuff btw. absolute life saver

[@pumkin610]

5:22 wish mojang would add this in lol

[@grahamerwhamer]

The beat in sync with the item frames rendering

[@iIO_OIi]

I remember that cobwebs used to slow down thown potions, then there was a change that made them break on cobwebs, and now they just pass right through unaffected, huh.

[@roscocsa]

I always get a bit of a chill when he says It could get a bit complicated.

[@busy_beaver]

You can try pulling 2 blocks from below the platform so that the potion would land 1 block lower. Maybe this way the second layer will also be converted.

[@baumeseins]

I assume with an increased drop height of the potion it would be possible to convert two maybe even three layers. The falling speed of the potion presses the effect further into the blocks. Probably depends on the collision detection, similar to Doc's arrow railgun on the HC server, shooting through massive mountains.

[@hitclub-F4]

ILMANGO MEANS BEST CONTENT EVER ❤❤❤

[@fallbrookastro]

automatic diamond farm will be huge talk amongst the 4th grade classrooms

[@techhead1304]

I don't know what's happening with the second layer, but the simplest way to do three layers is probably taking an entire row out of the top layer to let the potion drop, would give another 72 blocks per potion. I'm aware this makes the merge even more complicated though if you're doing three. Taking a row out of the top of two layers might be easy though, if the current issue is based on where you built it and you don't want to move the whole thing. I'm really not a redstone expert but I don't think a gap will break the merger. But if both layers need the same amount of blocks for the merge to work correctly, 72+72 is still more than 81+0. EDIT: 81+72+72 might also be an easy converter (but hard to merge).

[@flipoftheforce3277]

Love all your content and this series! I wish people wouldn't complain and just let you enjoy yourself...slowing down the upload rate and ruining it for people like me who play minecraft like you and enjoy every aspect of your video content. Keep it up Mango!! 🥭 🥭 🥭

[@mistabibi8696]

SOOOOOOO DOPE ilmango is the best minecrafter BY FAR

[@jakeknelsen1570]

Best skyblock series ever

[@piotroszust-pisnicki211]

the potion might be trying to convert the soul sand , so you might have to put the brewing section up a block

[@kraken2623]

Maybe move the potion machine 1 block higher? Could be the soul stone block stopping the extra layer from being converted plus the extra bit of height for the potion to drop

[@hdskbdjsksndjssm]

i was expecting phantoms to interrupt him throwing ender pearls and here they are

[@iIO_OIi]

Lava adds a lot more burn time to the player per unit of time you spend in it than fire, I think soup fire has something similar going for it, or maybe that's just more damage.

[@jin99softhejins85]

Finally after starting the series when ilmango was at ep 40, I have caught up

[@2000Meilen]

Regarding the Sugar Cane farm you mentioned at the end, you could use a farm made by Mumbo Jumbo 9 years ago. It would be a nice contrast between all the custom made farms that use new blocks like the target block, sharp timings, and what not; and then there's this chonky brick from the pre-slimeblock era.

[@diegomelgar5866]

We all watching ilmango making another cobblestone farm Ilmango thinking about making another cobble farm so he can build the world

[@levywin]

when you had your timing problem at 24:56 , I think the timing was right and it was just due to the block of Stone that you forgot to remove.

[@ZetherothMTG]

One way you could have simplified the 4 layer system would have been to just removed the entire column down the middle, and put the snow there. You would the get 288 pet potion with only slightly more effort

[@sweepingpage1845]

When you get bored of this, you should start a tick warp challenge, where you have to beat the game while running tick warp the whole time.

[@Robstar0]

Three layers might not have been too difficult: With a sticky piston (two actually) you could remove that one block (one up and one to the side), then splash, then place the block back. I mean, besides the fact that in the skyblock world it wouldn't have worked anyway.

[@v0id_d3m0n]

Maybe the lingering potion would affect incoming stone as well because it lingers

[@NsGaming21]

bro that intro never gets old

[@pies32]

mango! please add these videos to the playlist!!!

[@ilmango]

just did. It was much better when youtube had an option to do it automatically.

[@pies32]

@@ilmango Thank you!! Also I love your videos, been a longtime viewer. Amazing work on the skyblock!

[@sherpajones]

You could do 3 layers if you had the splash potion drop where there was a row of stone missing. Just omit a 1x1 row of stone generation on the top row.

[@minercraftal]

One double piston extender pushing down the center stone can make it double layers, like lmango’s video cus he shows a lot of stuff that I don’t even know about 😂

[@chaoswarriorbr]

RNG, position, orientation, the enemy/friend of redstoning, "destryoing" patience for more then a decade. At least the problem solving can be fulfilling, though many people might at some point just go "unga bunga, pick smash blocks easy".

[@nickiosaurus6130]

I love the videos first off*, I like the isolated farms running into the blast chamber, but would it be possible to drop the potion from the same place as the TNT in the blast chamber? You could maybe get a reliable 3 layers?

[@arthaiser]

having a lot of deepslate in vanilla is not excuse for it not to be renewable. look at sand, there are plenty deserts in a world, finding sand is not the issue, the issue is having to mine it and destroy the desert when there could be a way to make it renewable. (and yes, there is duping, but i mean an actual intended way) they did it so well with the basalt thing using blue ice... i do prefer if they used other mechanics, like the one used here, i think is great. by the way, two things about this design. one is, maybe is only converting 1 layer because there is no space between the soul sand and the stone now? in creative you had air at the top. the other one. the four layer converting method, maybe you could make that possible "easily" if you simply forget about the row where the potion lands? i will try to explain myself better. you have 4 layers of stone in 9 rows and in one row you punch two blocks, then you put some powder snow and then the potion hits there and converts everything right? the issue was to actually push everything away and then punch other 2 blocks... but what if you simply leave that row as the "converting row"? you dont push that middle one, you push the other 8 rows, which are 4 layers deep instead of pushing 9 rows of 9 deepslate 2 deep for 162 deepslate, you would be pushing 8 rows of 9 deepslates 4 deep which are 288

[@gtbkts]

Thanks for the awesome content!!!

[@veryblocky]

Would you consider designing the deep slate convertor to just leave the row with the hole in along, so you still get the 4 layers, but just miss out on the 36 blocks in that one row? Or you could even push the bottom two layers of that row out too, so you only lose out on 18 blocks.

[@sunbr0547]

14:47 Could have removed a whole line of blocks instead of just one block and get 234 blocks per potion (and no need to remove blocks in the middle - you just don't push them there Same with 4 layers of blocks - but you make a 3-deep trench losing 27 blocks and having a total of 297 blocks per potion

[@onfireasnotredam8942]

14:53 I've have gone for removing an entire line of stone with a flying machine in order to obtain the three layers. I'm not an expert, prove me wrong if it is

[@Reevin]

Hey ilmango. I was thinking about your deepslate setup. The only difference you didn't mention between your creative and survival builds was that you were replacing all the deepslate with a command rather than the smooth stone generator. I don't know if that was the cause but it was another difference. I just can't see why a rounding error would go from 3-4 layers to just one.

[@nram3930]

Opening track is fire.

[@gissoe]

Good music in the start

[@JMW1906]

Maybe the farm is rotated. My only guess is that the potion hits the soulsand block for some reason and thus does not hit the lower layer of stone.

[@benjaminknight8041]

Great episode! Love seeing the cogs turn, it'd be less fun if you just showed the end result, I like the scientific method!

[@Veptis]

Its been a whilw since I have seen an episode of yours (really bad with my watch later lately +10 months) ... But man - your music choise is really great.

[@muscledeep]

noteblock casually going on fire lol

[@SpringDuckGaming]

Minecraft is mocking him during the creative part for not knowing that goats spawn on stone.

[@MichaelMSHuber]

For less effort with more layers just don't push blocks in the line of the drop, you would lose only 18 blocks with this. Or use push limit from the sides and a flying machine like the one from the podzol farm

[@Alanhallow]

Great video as always

[@dymonkeys7260]

Do you think that if you remove the right piston, it will create a channel in the surface of the stone, allowing the potion to fall one block further, and convert more stone?

[@loekiepower152]

Nice episode, but i’m just asking. Why does mango have netherite armor in the tumbnail?

[@ilmango]

I was testing something in the creative world in survival that required proper armour to not die immediately and later took this screenshot as thumbnail and forgot removing the armour. I don't have the netherite in survival yet and I quite often make thumbnails in the creative world

[@derderkommentierte741]

Nice Music at the beginning

[@dukeandnukem9654]

Thanks boss, I love these

[@cavemanpretzel9520]

If you wanted to be lazy and do 3 layers you could just have no stone generated on the top most strip where the thick potion lands. It would complicate harvesting ofc since theres now 3 layers to harvest but you wouldn't need to pull out any blocks. You might even be able to extend this concept to 4 layers by skipping the topmost two strip and having a half or 3/8 block which won't be destroyed by having blocks move under it.

[@xilluminati]

My man went to debugging mode in Minecraft

[@VaradMahashabde]

I dunno about why it doesn't convert 2 layers, but regarding 3 layers, isn't a piston extender simple enough that pulls out that block? You can just inject it back into the stream, maybe into the same hole if you delay a tiny bit, and have much higher block conversion rate.

[@yuvalorp]

You can generate the third platform without one row and get 234 blocks every potion