1 BIG Problem - Vosteed Raccoon Folding Knife - Overview and Review

Full review of the Vosteed Raccoon.
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[@vosteed_cutlery]

Thank you so much for your review and suggestions.😘 Since the release of the video, we immediately inspected the Raccoons in our warehouse. ❤And thanks to your suggestions, the lock strength has increased, however, that caused some button sticks.🥺 Since there is a cone-shaped slope in the contact area between the lock plunge and the corresponding area on the blade. In our cases, we have used lower HRC button steel (to absorb impact for the harder blade steel) with a deep angle (less lock stick while not as strong as full flat area) on the contact slope on the Raccoon. Some brands tend to use harder button steels and flatter slope.🙏 While each configuration has its pros and cons, because of the feedback from you and other customers here, we will definitely do more combined configurations (using axis lock and other locks) and to bring more choices for our customers. We love knives, and we love to learn and try new things.🤩☺Looking forward, we will continue to improve and optimize our product in the future and make a better balance among different perspectives.😊 Vosteed is a small 100% employee-owned company, all of my colleagues will do everything we can to make sure our customers are happy.🥰 As a new company, we have many things to work on, and we can’t say that our products are 100% perfect; however, we always strive to make sure that when things happen our customers and fans are well taken care of. On a personal level, I have come to know many customers, to me, they are more than customers and I will do whatever it takes for them.❤🥰 All of my colleagues stand behind our 100% satisfaction warranty program, if a product is defective or has a workmanship problem, we always issue a full refund upon receiving the returned item.🙏 Thank you so much for keeping us honest and letting us know how we can improve. You guys are the best. :D I wish everyone a wonderful and blessed day. 💖☀🌻

[@chiefelephanttuskbong8081]

Hi Vosteed, you guys are doing some great things and I'm excited to see what the future holds, I don't personally own a Vosteed knife yet but I plan on changing that soon 👍

[@knottheory79220]

This is how it's done. When they were new companies both Spyderco and Benchmade turned out some products that in Sal Glesser's words were "pretty rough". I am now more interested in Vosteed products than I was before for sure. Gracefully taking valid criticism isn't as common as it should be.

[@1990turboDSM]

You guys rock. Very humble and I appreciate that. Great people that make great knives

[@macmccartney5760]

Don't use all axis locks please. Ther pretty good . But not all of us like them. A good button lock is my personal favorite. Love my hogue ex 01 , ex 03 and ex 05. All nice strong button locks, loved them way before the button lock faze That started recently

[@macmccartney5760]

Is your trek lock stronger?

[@g.dilla.]

Yeah, I think the validity of light spine whack tests is overlooked as “abnormal use”. Personally, I gashed my hand pretty significantly a few years ago when I was cutting through some thick cardboard that had packing tape on it. The lock failed when the blade got stuck in a cut and I began pulling the blade out. Granted, it was a liner lock in that case, but it failed under “normal use” and only moderate negative pressure. Since then I’ve appreciated the idea of spine whack testing, lock strength tests, and other reverse pressure tests just a bit more.

[@metal_complex]

YEP this is exactly why a light spine pressure test is valid. What I don't like is people swinging it like a baseball bat into a solid surface as a "test". Glad you said something 👍👍

[@g.dilla.]

@@metal_complex Well, hold on there… what if you’re stuck in a batting cage and the pitching machine gets taken over by rogue A.I. and starts pummeling you with baseballs? I bet then you’d wish you had a triad locking knife on you to start repelling the baseball attacks of Skynet.

[@metal_complex]

@@g.dilla. LOL

[@experienceprecision5406]

Definitely not odd use. Makes it damn near a slip joint but your not expecting it so makes it terribly dangerous 👍

[@HighCRI]

Like a lot of things, spine whack tests get a bad rep because of the some of the people doing them. It’s the folks that are pulling the knife 1-3 feet and slamming it as hard as they can 20 times to prove some random point about the Triad lock that make it look silly.

[@rjoshm20]

So I tested this on the two raccoon’s that I own to add to the evidence. One was rock solid, the other disengaged with minimal pressure. The one that failed is new and un carried. Also to note the more used one has noticeably deeper lock engagement. Perhaps some usage/breakin is required for the lock to set and stabilize?

[@17_plus_WON]

I agree, I bet the issue will resolve itself after breaking in a little. My son has this exact model in this video and despite trying very hard, I could not get it to fail. He's carried it and used it well. The knife came straight as an arrow and no issues whatsoever.

[@KnivesFAST]

Great video. Very well thought out and explained. I had just gotten a Valkyrie in last night so I decided to lightly try this and it failed almost immediately. And it feels pretty much every time I hit it lightly like you were doing. Very interesting. Thanks for the vid

[@shoua7]

I just tried this with my Valkyrie that I got yesterday, and there was no failure. I even started hitting it harder, and still no fail. Maybe I got lucky.

[@KnivesFAST]

@@shoua7 good. It seems like it's @ smaller percentage. Thanks.

[@P90Camper]

I got one today - and it fails with light force.

[@KnivesFAST]

@@P90Camper sorry to hear that

[@PR0MARK1]

Get the bar lock! just bought a green bar lock racoon with a black blade, and I Love it! I tried to make it fail like you did many times and it never did. Solid lock up. This isnt exactly a hard use folder, but i feel confident i could beat on it without it closing on my fingers and I have scars from other blades failing. This must be isolated to the button lock variant. Btw they now come with exta springs and they have moved the pocket clip back a bit to make it sit deeper.

[@neurodon178]

I don’t think spine whacking is the right way to use folders, it’s the firearm in the mud test for knives. With that being said, Vosteed has exceptional customer service, they should be able to help you out.

[@metal_complex]

I also don't like the spine whack test... But minimal pressure on the spine causing the lock to disengage isn't good. This could occur while cutting into dense/thick material and trying to remove the blade with force if it gets stuck.

[@neurodon178]

I just tested my raccoons, both passed similar test, it seems you got a defected one, Vosteed should be able to refund you. Like I said, their customer service is quite good, no big deal. Have a wonderful day and keep up the good work 👍🏻

[@xwestonx]

@@neurodon178 I did a similar test (multiple times now, both on cushioned couch arm and a cardboard box). Knives tested were a Vosteed Thunderbird, sencut watauga, protech Malibu, and a protech Mordax. The Vosteed was the only one that failed on some pretty mild taps.

[@joez2037]

Who else was thinking please don't cut your hand again while he was smacking that AD20?

[@metal_complex]

Me 😂

[@Seraph_888]

Can you do a Pyrite and Raccoon comparison? I know theses are generic knife designs but these two actually do seem very similar

[@ALtheSciencePal]

Lock failure on plunge locks can also be due to spring pressure. I had this exact same issue on my mini slim pickins. I took it apart and stretched the spring just a tiny bit. Problem solved.

[@RinEagle]

I just tested my Raccoon like this and it didn’t fail. I guess I got a good one?

[@BladeLabMiami]

Just checked mine and the lock does fail after a medium-strength spine whack. Not great, but it's not an issue for me because I don't cut stuff with the spine of my knife and I would never use a cheap folder for hard use tasks. Still, they should fix it.

[@danielcox5849]

Mine does the same but I’m not that concerned about it. It took a pretty hard whack. It’s rock solid with medium to hard pressure on the blade. Not ideal but it is not an issue when the knife is used correctly.

[@jsmis1]

I do have to say that I have this knife and carry it all the time. After watching your video I tried this and had no failure even after whacking it pretty hard a few time. Love this knife. Bummer that the sample you have did it. Maybe with the next batch they will get it ironed out. Happy mine does not slip.

[@the_bove]

Picked up a raccoon a little while back and never noticed any issues with lockup, but sure enough, a light little tap on the spine will definitely disengage the lock on this thing. That is unfortunate. Coincidentally I have the same issue on my Kizer original, which disengages even easier than the Raccoon. I don't typically use my knives in a fashion where there's any pressure to the spine side of the blade, but that is definitely something I'll be more mindful of after seeing and testing this for myself.

[@jaystavros7177]

I think Kizer is the manufacturer for Vosteed. Makes sense they'd both have the same issue. Do you plan on selling the raccoon?

[@edcgearpocketknife]

Spine wacking a knife is pointless. It’s like using a hammer backwards. The AD 20.5 has a different lock system

[@Salamando3D]

Knowing two of these knives can be disengaged in that way is a much higher expected failure rate than one would be comfortable with. I got a Pyrite over this, and I'm even more glad now. Would still like to have a Racoon eventually but not until this is addressed, and publicly, hopefully. Sure 'knife guys' can take it apart and probably rectify this, but they should be as reliable as possible out of the box for the every man.

[@jessiethedude]

Did you whack the Pyrite on the spine to check though?

[@maxlvledc]

10:39 Issue talk. I'll check mine when I get home.

[@malcolmholt2010]

I am very happy to say mine locks up like ft knox. Mine is from the second batch not sure if that would have been the reason or not. When I saw this I thought oh no don't tell me that! I immediately pulled it out of pocket and began knocking on it. Whew.... nothing happened and I knocked pretty hard. Dented a piece of oak wood I was working on so I am confident it is fine. Still just leaves that little bit of doubt in my mind though. I absolutely love this knife though has been my top carry ever since I got it.

[@jspiels9]

After watching this video, i tested this on my currently carried Kizer Cormorant (Knife Center exclusive 4V edition) and had the same results, with lock disengaging upon light strikes on a notebook pad... Any other button lock failures we need to test?

[@edwardjenkinson8948]

I went to the doctor once with a sore back, and when I moved a certain way and I said ouch he told me not to move that way, it cost me 125bucks to not move that way Lol 😂 Maybe it was made on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon just saying

[@goodnessgraciousitellya5004]

Thanks for sharing this info, you saved me $60. 99% of review of this knife are basically calling it perfect, but this is a major flaw!

[@drubytoonzoriginals]

Wow, thanks! I use my knives harder than that ‘whack’ everyday... good to know because this one was on my radar! Bummer... ☹️

[@jd4edc]

Just tested mine, I spine whacked it just as hard as you did yours, no issues here. Most plunge lock issues can be attributed to the spring.

[@PrecYsely]

Same , no issue with mine, definitely a spring issue if this is happening with others

[@13beggar]

I have seen this concern raised in couple posts other than yours. So, it does seem to be a thing. For what it's worth, I have a Racoon and though it never occurred to me to wack it on the back of the blade, I have tried it on my Racoon and it doesn't disengage. It feels very solid. Seems like more than a fluke, but not universal... not sure how helpful that is...

[@redrebelleader-7495]

It might be an issue with the lock design? I have a Valkyrie that has no issue with lockup…it’s a bummer a good looking knife has such a major issue.

[@HopsAndLead]

Moving forward, It'd be nice if they'd increase their production a LOT. Everything is out of stock except 1 knife and the only version I like is out of stock. Since the Thunderbird being out of stock (I said no to this design), I have purchased 3 other knives from other brands because they are OUT OF STOCK!!!!

[@LiquidRetro]

Not knowing the knife is out of stock everywhere and that color combinations exist, as well as the spine issue has been documented for a while feels lime this was a very much off the cuff review without much prep

[@grantrudolph1333]

I have just received my Raccoon and am happy to report that the pocket clip has been moved for a deeper carry and the lock is not disengaging.

[@hawkshadowoseanacy5171]

I have discovered what I believe to be a design flaw with a $400 Sandrin knife I purchased based on MC's video. I live the knife. I sent it in for service, with pics, they denied the part is having the issue, sent it back and have refused all attempts at contacting them. I'll put more details in my Instagram probably tomorrow if anyone has one their knives or wants to buy one so ppl can make up their own mind. It would be good to see if anyone else's is having the issue.

[@Foodiedad17]

That’s shitty for the price

[@not-a-raccoon]

I need one of these. For obvious reasons

[@9mmmike642]

Modern manufacturing absolutely can make 1,000 good knives of 1,000.

[@metal_complex]

This is kind of a bland statement. Can they? I guess. Is it always going to be the case? No. Absolutely not. Things are going to go wrong no matter how accurate the machines are.

[@JohnMeche]

You need to get your hands on the Vosteed Thunderbird.

[@Bloodgutsnbeer]

Tested my Raccoon after watching your video. It locks up solid. Thanks for the info.

[@NERDkingROYALE]

Just tested mine and couldn’t replicate the disengagement you saw, even with significantly more force. Still, should probably be addressed if it’s a frequent problem. I have had some issues with my pivot loosening with frequent use, which I imagine could result in a weaker lockup, but that’s easily fixed with some loctite.

[@jeffschoper4486]

Dammit!! I had been smugly thinking I knew better when people did not choose this as budget knife of the year. Just tested mine and it has the issue. I’ll be in the corner sucking my thumb for awhile… so close to gold, please fix this Vosteed and we can put this behind us…

[@ghettomonk79]

Pretty cool knife from Vosteed but I encountered the same issue pretty much right out of the box. Mine also had several loose screws. I really though about returning it. Instead I Dremeled out the lock notch on the blade a bit and added some Locktite. No more crappy/loose button lockup. Most people should just return/exchange theirs if it comes with the same crappy button lock issues. Watch out for the Vosteed Valkyrie also. My Valkyrie came with similar issues.

[@Robs_Nerdy_Knives]

Yeah, I just did, too not realizing how that might swing back. Ouch!! 🤕

[@bassassassinnn7459]

Sometimes I wish these companies would make some of their low end models with titanium scales. This thing would look SICK with a frag pattern. I love micarta though...

[@stevelewis7263]

Any knife will fail if abused, whether it be a folder or a fixed blade, and what annoys me with youtube "destruction testing" is why on earth would someone want to baton any knife through Elevator Cable, or a rifle barrel, or a piece of rebar, for goodness sake, 99.999999 % of people who find themselves in a survival situation and have a knife would protect it as it will save their lives, it's only that .000001 % would be so terminally STUPID would try that. I'm 67 yrs old and have owned many, many knives from cheap crap to mid-range priced knives, and I have NEVER, EVER broken a knife blade.

[@kerrykitterman4602]

I think a Lot of Popular buttons and liners would Fail this test .Kizer has excellent quality, obviously. Other raccoons may not Fail. But wow I'm disappointed 😥! I. Bet they make it Right .this is the third test I've seen. WOW. BAD NEWS Spreads Fast..thanks.

[@dubbayabird6680]

Oh MC,. never ever tell corporate America your ideas on quality assurance. (IE reality). You will be slapped back to their delusions really hard with their "quality assurance procedures" . Yeah I had to suffer through that garbage. (all ISO 9000 Derivatives) Sure some of it is useful, but it is insane to believe that it will produce 100% quality product.

[@decal1751]

Too bad that's a really nice knife especially for the cost I'm glad you made this video I was planning on getting one now I'll wait and see if they fix the problem! Thanks 🙂👍🤷‍♂️

[@ljaysperspective1775]

Well, that's disappointing, I saw this knife come up on a few reviews, and I was considering this or the CJRB Riff. I hope it's just a bad batch. I like this knifes simplistic profile. If I still move forward with my purchase, I'm going to have to test it, no matter the cost, I need a knife that works. Thank you for your review. It definitely makes a difference 👍

[@Kens_knives]

Hey MC just thought I'd let you know Demko 20.5 available in s35vn at DLT & Knife Center for the small sum of $250.00 dollars better go get you one! Lol !

[@marktheboss6441]

Unfortunately every manufacturing process produces a few lemons, A bad knife sucks, a bad car you really get screwed.. it's not unsurprising you've had a few lemons, you just handle way more Knifes then the rest of us.. that's I problem I could live with.. much love..

[@Don92595]

I saw that same Reddit post after feeling sad about missing out on the Racoon the first round and it made me feel better.

[@Robs_Nerdy_Knives]

EDIT & UPDATE: Basically, this is the result of my spring tension being too light. My Thunderbird works great and has a much stronger spring. I have since stretched out gently my spring on the Valkyrie and I do not have the issue. OLD: Crap… I just did this with the Vosteed Valkyrie, and it cut me pretty bad!! I was not expecting that!!!

[@rhyswilson7806]

Tried this with my Valkyrie right after this video and thankfully had no issues

[@scottyh.6992]

I just checked this on my Raccoon, fortunately no problems, mine seems ok. I have a Valkyrie on its way, I hope it does not have the same issue.

[@shoua7]

I just got a Valkyrie yesterday from White Mountain Knives, and mine doesn't fail. I even tried hitting it harder than Metal Complex and it stayed solid. Hope yours is fine too.

[@scottto7074]

Just tested mine. IT FAILED EVERY TIME. Just did more tests and it failed 13 of 15 times and I was also able to get it to fail with heavy hand pressure. Nice knife with a bad flaw.

[@Optimization_Coach]

I'd would like a larger version with bar locking system actually. Little small for my hands and I always run out of blade... lol!

[@the.shotgun.approach]

@Metal Complex Have you seen the video on KZbin of the guy with 6 Zero Tolerance knives fail in the same way as this knife? None of my ZTs have failed like that which makes me suspicious of this guy's video. Although, he seems honest. Wondering what your thoughts are if you've seen it.

[@littlerougue]

been looking to get one of these I might just go Pyrite and see if they get them tuned up a little better in a few months

[@aedelus]

Knowing about this, I still bought the WMK exclusive version. It is rock solid! I think this was an isolated issue, which they fixed, and if anything went overboard to rectify any future QC failures. Vosteed definitely listened, and I'm stoked to play with my Racoon.

[@NWEDC]

Yeah.... my Vosteed Thunderbird does the exact same thing.... which is why I don't carry it anymore.

[@donkeygepgep9030]

This is ridiculous. Who whacks the spine of an EDC knife? It’s not hard use. And it’s a budget knife. Please be realistic

[@lukepaulson3428]

I’ve had the same issue on the kizer feist and the artisan cutlery Ahab. Other than sending knives back is there a fix that can be done?

[@bogbel1]

Maybe button locks in general should be avoided. There are so many great tried and true locking mechanisms to choose from. Cross bar locks are similarly easy to use and all you have to worry about is the spring breaking and that's not much of a concern.

[@devon08059]

Just why do you measure thickness in 0.1000 that is the only thing that Bugs me others use both to measure 0.12 I have heard more of if you could do both measurements that would help.

[@Zaque-TV]

Must be Hella popular. Sold out everywhere so I hope they make more!

[@mikereese15]

Well now. I'm going to have to check mine when i get home. Disappointing if they are all like this. Need to check my thunderbird too.

[@IncredibleJim]

Mine has that issue also. At first i thought the same thing and people was being dramatic but yeah. I won't use it because of this flaw. Mine takes too little force.

[@windowbreezes]

if people have whacked the spine on their knife once and it failed...then continue to whack it to prove a point, the damage is done...it could have been fixed the first whack but that button hardware is compromised from repeatedly trying to break it.

[@metricaldimensions]

Do you test all your knives you review with this test? It does not bother me that much although it’s not good. I just can’t see a scenario where the way I use a knife this would ever be a problem. If you are beating on your knife get a fixed blade and have at it.

[@trocha419]

After my time with my Dozier I don’t mind blades sticking out. Just depends in the pants.

[@coreycorsani9540]

I tried this while watching this video. The knife folded and sliced through my knuckle. This sucks.

[@whatfreedom7]

Well that’s a no go. I wanted this knife for just a cheap work knife since I lost my delica. Definitely will have to pass on this one.

[@liquidcool99]

No issues with my raccoon! Other than the centering being a little off. I whacked the heck out of the spine, and not a problem…

[@jasonbyu75]

Is the ‘one major flaw’ the disengagement when you hit the spine? I don’t really want to watch for 22 minutes.

[@roberttaylor6030]

I wonder how many raccoons will get beat on because of this video. Probably every button lock owned by people who watched this gonna get the tap test.

[@jjmarcum7446]

It’s not just yours I’ve got two of the raccoons and both of mine has lock rock and will fail with the slightest pressure

[@danielsmit3524]

So sad, because the design of the blade is really good looking and I imagine sharprning will be a breeze with that generous choil.

[@ryansmock2717]

I really dislike that pocket clip position. I'm getting a little annoyed at makers not prioritizing the pocket clip and making it as deep carry as possible. I think the issue is the coil sping pressure. Get a stronger spring in that plunge lock.

[@TheSardonicAgnostic]

Nice review for sure, fortunately i just bought mine and it does not disengage, and i whacked the hell out of it.

[@larryborum5642]

I got mine to disengage but you really have to whack it.. Watch your fingers!

[@stevetqp9152]

Hey MC, nice review as always! I have a question...As I very recently acquired this button lock Raccoon, tested it as you did (gently on a camera case cube), and my copy did not exhibit that button lock failure, could it be that over the last 6 months since your review, Vosteed corrected the issue, and that it was only in an early batch? I certainly hope so, as this is one of the most robust, sharpest, most ergo-friendly EDC I have experienced! Not to mention the many "extras" that accompany it in a metal box. If they did fix that issue (which, to my mind, borders on a non-issue, because 99.99% of my usage involves pressure on the cutting edge of the blade, and very minimal pressure on the spine.), I think it's a solid EDC. Just my 2 cents...thanks!

[@stevetqp9152]

Update: Vosteed tells me that they endeavor to "make improvements with each batch of our Raccoon knives", so this implies that the "button lock issue" noted here has been addressed. From that response, it sounds like they're a company that listens to their customers, and strives to deliver a quality product.

[@cjenkins212]

I was told the vosteed Valkyrie does the exact same thing. Has anyone heard anything?

[@efm2169]

I tested mine out after I saw this video and luckily mine doesn’t do that and I used some force even.

[@mikereese15]

Mine is all good. No issues with that happening. So hopefully it is just a handful of people

[@xwestonx]

Just tested out my thunderbird which I haven’t carried much on the arm of my couch. Couple taps and lock failure. Pretty disappointing

[@xwestonx]

Just to follow up, my protech malibus or mordax do not fail under the same test with more force, so vosteeds response on that Reddit thread seems misguided

[@heatherhefner4408]

Tell me about it, I am still waiting to receive my Malibu replacement, the plunge thing on mine broke into two pieces after some light use. Kudos to Protech for sending me a new one though.

[@xwestonx]

@@heatherhefner4408 crazy about the failure on the Malibu, but protech has fantastic customer service. I have my biases though since I have more protech than any other manufacturer in my collection… that said my sencut button lock also doesn’t have the failure that the vosteed has, so seems to be specifically something vosteed is doing…

[@Knifedope]

Unfortunately, mine is doing the exact same thing

[@protoseries]

Don't know if it is just me, but the audio sounded a little off. Nvm it was me!

[@Oxydado]

Thanks for this MC. I was really excited about this knife. The lack of button stick the aesthetic of the knife, but sure enough… I barely tapped the spine and immediate fail. I’m bummed, but thankful and it’s going back… thanks again for the enlightenment

[@adbramsay]

Same with mine

[@slinginlead6647]

I whacked mine harder than i ever would normally, no problem

[@shrillyy1604]

my kizer chili pepper does this too, is there any fixes for it

[@Hungrybird474]

Maybe stretch the spring but I’d contact kizer for a refund or replacement. You shouldn’t have to operate on a knife to make it better

[@shrillyy1604]

@@Hungrybird474 yeah I’m stretching the spring but I’m kinda mad because I can easily break the lock with one hand. Lemme assemble it again tomorrow see if it’s fixed

[@anthonymarzi5943]

Mine holds up to the spin test don't affect it buttom locks are great

[@Foodiedad17]

Folks don’t realize, it’s one thing to spine whack the crap out of your knife, unnecessary…but mild or medium pressure should not cause your lock to fail. This means that a bad lock could fail during use while bearing down on your folder if you have to pull upwards or back at all to reposition during cutting or getting caught in material. The blade could then cut you pretty bad. It’s happened. I always check my framelocks for lock rock when I get them. I’ve had a lot with rock and lock slip. My Strider PT new gen is so bad that the lock fails every time. Bad luck with Reate 3-4 times this year. Bestech as well. I wouldn’t trust that in use. A lock should never push outward and want to open with minimal force on the spine. That’s improper machining and lock geometry. I had to quit the Vosteed Facebook group…some good people in there but it was getting sort of cult like. Too much group think. I don’t always agree with you. Nor am I always right but geez this is a new company that is learning with some good value products. There is too much I have to have what you have going around the knife community these days. Not enough thinking for yourself. If you think outside the box a little you are a dick or the enemy. It’s okay to have an opinion. Just don’t be dick about it.

[@Kiko_Collects]

Ya made me yell whenever you were wacking the Demko! Noooooooo!

[@Kris_Stiletto]

Wow! O will pay on that one. Thank you for letting us know. Great Video. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

[@billymoore4758]

Well that sucks it looks like a nice knife but I will have to pass on it till they fix it

[@Kris_Stiletto]

That one definitely needs a big Flipper to protect your digits... :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

[@charlescollier7217]

Important information, this. Thank you.

[@maranezzi21]

Would this happen if it was crossbar?

[@MrGreenLeaf420]

I just bought one on amazon to test this when new and after I use it a few months.

[@LarryGanz]

Last week I had a knife lock fail during a gentle to medium whack on the spine of the blade, and the blade bounced up into my hand and cut me. I got PTSD shivers watching you beat the Demko on that wood block!

[@lymedog3176]

One reason to not like button locks .. plus the possibility to disengage the lock when using the knife. I've had it happen multiple times with a kizer button lock. Crossbar raccoon is the way to go with micarta and 14c28n steel.

[@infidel24]

What did you do to you thumb? Hopefully it heals soon.

[@fd69]

Gloves wouldnt try that without Them .

[@pacoman5816]

Are you going to be able to test the newly released batch??

[@Huey4214]

After watching this video I tested all five of the button locks I own. A Civivi Altus, Kaiser Sway back, Sencut Watuga and a Boker Bluejay and a Pyrite.All passed . A racoon in on my list to buy but I am gonna get the axis lock model.

[@scottmeacham1738]

MC...open it. There could be lint or something with the micarta. Maybe it needs liners. What I'm seeing there wouldn't deterr me from buying that knife. I will Never be repeating that act with Any of my knives. Thanks for sharing this video with us!

[@philco6645]

How is this knife different/better than the Sencut Sachse or the CJRB Pyrite? The Sachse and Pyrite have the advantage of actually existing in the marketplace . . .