1 New AI vs 7 Old AIs

[@Watch-CaptainAlain]

11:24 - Tsar Konstantin invests his stone in walls for his domain’s borders. He knows the Mongols will strike from the East, and he must be prepared.

[@AzureDragon100]

This guy Total Wars

[@Alsborg]

Its necessary to protect the Border Line of the Map xD

[@DariDoraemon]

you all be knocking his doors once the Chaos comes

[@user-fp8xh7et6t]

He built those to taunt the enemy. He knows he can waste time and resources on the useless walls.

[@0079Matthew]

@@AzureDragon100 Try Crusader king 2. Genghis Khan is a nightmare.

[@frantisekvrana3902]

The Old AI builds walls, thinking it will help. And it does, as the new AI attacks the wall, when it could just go around.

[@adridell]

Then, who is the dumbest? The new AI or the old AI?

[@Dr_Weirdoo]

@@adridell new ai

[@thinkingmachine354]

adri dell “Who’s more foolish, the fool or the one who follows him?” - Old Ben Kenobi

[@luckguardian]

old ia "they call me a mad man.. " but they were right XD

[@Ratciclefan]

XD

[@rodrigo-vl7bi]

I'm watching a guy, watching a computer play a computer game, against other computers

[@Thomas-vn6cr]

Designed for humans to play.

[@Tichooon]

the future is now

[@ObviusRetard]

Drew Durnil!

[@wizartanimasyon5170]

And i'm reading your comment :D

[@Famousestephen]

rodrigo 😂😂😂😂😂lmfao

[@RexusprimeIX]

I love how the red AI put a gate at the border wall as well. Not only did it wall up the edge of the map, but it also put a gate there.

[@infantryhawk]

Just in case it needs to access the void.

[@justsomeguywithagasmask8203]

It actually makes perfect sense. You see, the Red heard about the great powers of Amon, so he is ready, if everything goes to shit, to try his luck and make a pact with Amon itself, but he build the walls as well because he dosen't want to risk Amon invading his kingdom if thr pact dosen't work as planned. It all make sense now.

[@13buthead]

future thinking, preparing for transdimetional attacks

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

It's because even old AI knows: AI will attack gates with absolute impunity, no matter what else is near.

[@numnut1516]

They know something we don’t.

[@DetectiveNyx]

SotL: yeah he just sent his archers to die under a town centre and delayed castle age to get out some feudal units he didn't use me, a player who can barely beat the AI on Moderate: an amateur mistake

[@Totherphoenix]

Yeah legit it's really easy to see peoples' mistakes when watching videos like this But the reality is that microing ingame is SO MUCH more tedious than simply thinking it...

[@ryanguybro6952]

Totherphoenix I think it was a joke

[@hohhoch3617]

@@Totherphoenix How is being called a buttplug an insult? Thought everybody liked to dive in between them cheeks and give em a good ol' clap.

[@hohhoch3617]

@@dadeee7776 Never said it was a man's ass.

[@Uniques97]

@@dadeee7776 Uh oh, time to talk your way out of this one :)

[@delarroque]

"This is such an ai army" Me: *hides current game screen* haha yeah, who would do that

[@22bmorse]

lolol right

[@daczito]

hahahhahhahahah

[@Floris_VI]

lmaoooo, so true

[@RottingCorpseBehindMcDonalds]

There's nothing wrong with that sort of army, just keep your cavalry separate so you can get to your opponent faster

[@JackKenton]

No matter how new and fancy the AI get's it still loves to fight gates, no matter the cost.

[@Handconnonierr]

I heard on TheViper stream then developers anounced then new AI can finally: 1. loor a boar, 2.get closer deers to ts with scout and 3.scout with sheep and scout with scouts for resurces. But when I saw what new AI explored with scout... mdems probably he had some other ideas in his mind (new AI troll? :D) ps. my idea why new AI is not aggressive - because let lower tier players survive. If he gonna drush with 4-5men at arms,scouts, archers/scirms+spiers, fast castle age knights,crosbows it can be hard for new players aka newbies. BUt in my mind its kinda bad, because your not ready for multiplayer. I played aoe2 almoust from beggining and never got 28-35 vil castle age etc.. ofc when i got my tactic( save some resources and slowly boom/save resources while build the walls) if AI rush me early i probably would check in google how to beat AI, would know about build orders etc. I was kinda okay even with 1v7 gold rush map (used ''pause'' sometimes when nessesary) pps. sorry for my kinda bad gramm :)

[@BaronPraxis8492]

I've noticed that it also has an insatiable lust for destroying outposts for some reason. Some things never change.

[@dafrandle]

@@Handconnonierr the AI was on extreme noobs don't play against that level unless they are masochists

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@@Handconnonierr Then again the EXTREME AI is supposed to be hard, maybe they should've just made the hardest level be extra aggressive

[@cassiolins1203]

@@Handconnonierr *lure the boar, not "loor"

[@resonanceofambition]

I don't know why but this gives me that sci-fi feel "7 ancient AI's trying to hold their own against this new generation killer." So cool.

[@JonatasAdoM]

Red's smart, while everybody's fighting amongst themselves they're walling themselves to survive when the dark lord comes from the dark lands.

[@catman1353]

is that a got reference XD

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@catman1353 A bit yes :) The comment comes with many references in it's curriculum.

[@vedrfolnir7936]

Did Red also make the dark lord pay for the wall?

[@TyranyFighterPatriot]

@@vedrfolnir7936 lol

[@manictiger]

@@vedrfolnir7936 And made a collection point for all the illegal dark ones.

[@ForumArcade]

Hey, if I was the wall-builder and I discovered a sheer drop into an inscrutable black void next to my village, I'd probably build a wall along it too. To keep my people from falling off, and to hopefully delay any eldritch gods or daemons which might therein reside from encroaching on our territory and stealing our sheep.

[@donxnik]

-The old AI builds walls, and I think that gives them quite a big advantage. Sees red building wall from other dimension attack -nevermind i said something

[@timovideogames]

comedy gold

[@noxy4966]

Red survived so the anti-dimensional border wall was a complete success.

[@Theonevidz]

donxnik that was fucking funny lol

[@SomalianDuke]

donxnik They be trying to hold out the mexicans from our world

[@resileaf9501]

Hey, don't laugh at the wall to the east. What if the Mongols invade?

[@o2Tenka]

"Gg man, it's ok" When you love a game so much you try to comfort the AI

[@SpiritOfTheLaw]

Hey guys, not so many videos this week because I've been knocked out with the flu. Feeling better now though, and happy to be back at it!

[@annasharky]

Good to hear you feel better.

[@roguetoa9787]

How are you grading all those math tests and uploading all these videos

[@ausarthevile7151]

Glad you are feeling better man, and I’m always happy to see a new video. Keep up the good work!

[@benperegrin745]

Missed you

[@masternobody1896]

Wassup

[@SehnsuchtYT]

Everybody gangsta until an attack comes from the void

[@Nebulon-B_Frigate_FTW]

Interdimensional feudal armies are no joke.

[@tubemankiwi]

@@Nebulon-B_Frigate_FTW ain't no joke* XD

[@Lele91pw]

You don't really want Ghost Leviathans swarming your base, I get it as a Subnautica player.

[@Rezzems-Requiem]

Not with that wall it wont

[@JesperSalama]

@@tubemankiwi ”are not no joke” would mean ”are a joke” (double negative)

[@HECKproductions]

the red wall at the edge of the map is one of the funniest things i have EVER seen in aoe2

[@effi6286]

The old AI: We have you 7 to 1 New AI: I like those odds

[@krankarvolund7771]

11:30 I don't know what's worst, the new AI attacking a wall that are not finished and could be bypassed, or the old one walling the side of the map while her first wall is clearly not finished XD

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

Old AI knows that AI always attacks gates first at any cost, hence the side wall with gate.

[@JonatasAdoM]

21:01 So many horns playing together it sounds like an orchestra.

[@GraveUypo]

at first i was like: "You're mad. It doesn't even stand a chance, it's gonna get destroyed. Should've started with 1v3". but it did much better than i thought. Maybe it can handle 1v5.

[@stefan_c.76]

GraveUypo I don’t know man. I mean it really fought against 5 AI’s, in the end. I think I’ve never seen the Huns (cyan) or the yellow to put up any fight at all. Excuse me if I missed it.

[@ITRIEDEL]

GraveUypo I tested this today actually and the new AI won. But there were a few moments where I thought it was done for. It just doesn’t give a fuck where it sends it’s villagers for resources

[@Bloody0range]

@@stefan_c.76 The problem with the Huns was that Bleda was leading them. And he led them to ruin.

[@stefan_c.76]

BloodyOrange heck yeah man! If only Attila was there, I have no doubt he would’ve beat the new AI singlehandedly

[@stefan_c.76]

BloodyOrange why have I read that in the Hun Commander’s voice?

[@anthonyelg9232]

Oh my god as soon as I heard that “Villager Created” sound effect: shhhh haaa, I was hit by a truck of nostalgia. My brain forgot that sound was lodged deep in the furthest reaches of my memory. That just reawoke something in me. Gotta go play this game NOW

[@duffin3503]

How was the session

[@tranqu]

Who else was blown away by the blue AI herding a deer to its town center? That's waaay next level, holy f. 4:49

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

I thought I was the only one to see that! It blew me away honestly

[@experttrack2543]

Me, man. It's AMAZING.

[@ahuzel]

Is very interesting to watch a computer do that, still that is a must in AoE1, you push your gazelles to your TC, then you lure the elephants, which are slower than AoE2's boar, somehow lol.

[@sgtpepper8581]

The Barbarian does better and it's harder

[@jamesstrohhaecker762]

When I saw that, i dont believe that!

[@handless7677]

Spirit of the law: describes something i do in the game, "that's such an old AI thing to do."

[@aemonblackfyre4159]

you just skipped over the part where blue lured a deer with god micro after they brought in the boar even saved the deer from going back

[@sinfulhealer2110]

yeah that shook me as well

[@thatpunkskater]

Came here to say this precise thing.

[@porcorosso4330]

@@RobustNut 4:45

[@jesusisking8502]

I thought it was Viper playing.

[@Truetobi91]

"You never know what's beyond your horizon" - Conquerors AI (2019)

[@vedrfolnir7936]

*Night's watch has left the chat*

[@jaybonn5973]

You really gotta take a minute to appreciate all the work that went into the architecture. How one make new buildings from an existing style that itself is never fully explained design wise I will never understand. Along with the animations for the destruction. I dont see enough people appreciating the small details and the other half of why this game is so good.

[@sinfulhealer2110]

Literally the sole reason I still remember and come back to AoE

[@mahatmaniggandhi2898]

half of the reason i love tgis game

[@resileaf9501]

Hey, don't laugh at the wall to the east. What if the Mongols invade?

[@Thescott16]

I just noticed that when you speed up the game the birds move at the same speed, but the animation is sped up. Looks kind of funny.

[@alanbareiro6806]

Bird: On which kind of caffeine are those people???

[@FloatingOer]

@@alanbareiro6806 Maybe that's the reason they never land, they are terrified!

[@ArtisanTony]

thats cause its fake

[@thinkingmachine354]

ArtisanTony since when did the birds scam? Nah, jk, I know what you meant lol

[@ArtisanTony]

@@thinkingmachine354 lol, my sense of humor is weird

[@chuckclift2018]

I wonder how the new AI was implemented. The previous one was just a hardcoded set of rules with very coarse control of the units. Maybe they implemented the CD version AI by taking their modern ai selectively dumbing it down in certain areas to make it more like the hd AI. That would explain it doing some "advanced" tactics like repairing its siege units.

[@torinjones3221]

Honestly I've never understood why the later AI never wall and in games like fortress/hideout etc actively destroy their start walls when they reach castle age.

[@EhurtAfy]

At least for hideout, deleting walls keeps players from walling their gates off, makes getting boars easier too. Looks like a easy, but not great solution.

[@charliecrome207]

ive never played age of empires or watched anything on this channel before but i watched the entire video. thats some good content.

[@Longknife]

"The old AI walls, and I think that gives them quite a big advantage." 11:20

[@alanbareiro6806]

They are not walling because of other players, but because the Earth really is flat and they are afraid of falling over the border of the world.

[@Sheevlord]

[insert a Trump joke here]

[@Mister.Weatherbee]

A yuge advantage

[@gomaashaban2933]

@@alanbareiro6806 Or the earth is round and someone can get to them from the other side😂😂

[@bryannguyen6246]

He's protecting himself from the illegals.

[@valmanway3800]

11:18 When you think Mongols are coming from the outside of the map

[@Rinchen8192]

11:25, that AI is playing Caesar 3 while every other AI is playin AoE2

[@jamesstrohhaecker762]

kkkkkk True

[@dogerio]

I don't understand

[@tomscorpion6288]

@@dogerio In Caesar III, enemies spawn at the side of the map. There are usually just 1-2 spawning points and you get several messages before you are attacked, so it's not that complicated to have it under control. The game offers mostly other challenges than fighting, although missions like Mediolanum or Lindum can get really nasty in that regard, particularly on highest difficulty.

[@dogerio]

@@tomscorpion6288 Oh, thats funny! Thanks for nswering though

[@hectorandem2944]

*B I G B R A I N™*

[@DirtyPoul]

It was awesome to watch you commentating on what the AI should be doing. I could imagine in 5-10 years time if someone developed an even better AI that also understands voice commands. Then you could have a veteran player direct the overall strategy to an AI that then micro-manages everything for the player. That could be quite interesting to watch. Then it really moves from being a standard RTS game where strategy + APM is king to a purely mental game like chess or go.

[@tomayto70]

That sounds so amazing, it could replace flirting with carpal tunnel by spamming hotkeys and being frustrated by pathing while fighting to actually feeling like a general calling the shots

[@EmilicoYamigos]

*Shows how superior the new AI is against 7 other older AI. *Actually worsens the opinion of the new AI when it sends its military suicide to enemy TC of an AI that walls the edge of the map. PE: also... Old AI (red): Fights till the end, even when his whole base got obliterated he still fights without surrendering. meanwhile new AI (blue) starts panicking and leting his vills get killed, then surrenders.

[@stefan_c.76]

Em1lic0! It’s not a shame to fear Genghis, man. It’s just common sense.

[@luckguardian]

dude red AI was like : WE WILL FIGHT TO THE LAST MAN!!! hahaha

[@notmenotme614]

The problem was blue didn’t finish red off. So red had breathing space to have a comeback and rebuild

[@fortunefed8719]

That was one of the annoying things about the old AI, if you destroyed every building, killed every military unit, but there was just a single villager alive they wouldn't resign.

[@almaster7457]

@@notmenotme614 You have no idea what you talking about. He didnt finish because he cant. Even if blue try to finish red,red just move to east more,where is 3 more opponents stay. Do you really think new Ai have any chance,when 5 Ai press on him? I still wonder,why some ppl just dont look around. Ai vs ai have too passive in offense play,which is completely different against human player. Still,when something come to ai territory,its starts to strike back,which will lead in fast defeat.

[@lonewolf025]

Interesting. Until this popped up in my suggestions I never thought of channels dedicated to AOE. After watching this and other videos I gotta say the effort and research put into these videos is really awesome.

[@arunababaginda4291]

It seems like you didn't notice, but Bleda the Hun was fk slinging, especially to red. That's why its score was so low all game. It blew my mind that the old AI can do this.

[@Nico-kd7uz]

Yeah old ai sometimes sling. Also is the game is ffa they used to offer alliance for some resources or ally eachother

[@951258tike22]

Your knowledge of this game is impressive. I've been playing it for nearly 20 years but in such a casual/make-your-own challenges kind of way that I never truly learned the competitive mechanics that are at work!

[@EliasPerez-cf5gp]

11:22 daut wall just in case

[@T2266]

daut confirmed.

[@Wildlander]

I never played Age of Empires 2 as a child, but I figured it was a very special experience from how many friends & people I saw singing its praises. This video was recommended to me the other day, and I thoroughly enjoyed the entire thing. The game itself seems very cool, and your commentary was fantastic imo. Your play-by-play really helped me understand what was happening & why it was important/interesting, and made this a really awesome watch. Hope you continue finding success with this excellent content!

[@Hamanuna]

11:20 My favorite thing from the older AI

[@Popebug]

Just in case someone invades from another game.

[@Hamanuna]

@@Popebug Specially Genghis Khan's Army

[@skycloud4802]

I used to like it on Black Forest when AI walls off a forest clearing that no other players had access to anyway.

[@Alkis05]

As someone who played this game back in the day, it is so cool to see that it is still being played. It must have been the first multiplayer game I played. We spent whole weekends doing death match championships of AOE II

[@sherifhesham3733]

Petition to have Spirit remake his intro in definitive edition.

[@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs]

Tell him, buddy.

[@hippocratesm.d.1543]

مصرى؟

[@PenciumBau]

Yes

[@planescaped]

Considering it is comprised of clips of footage from tons of different tests and videos he's done I think that would take a looooong time.

[@The666opal111]

no

[@minaxsocietas480]

The old 2000's A.I. building walls, was by far my favorite feature. I loved making scenarios in the editor, and it always helped, that I didn't have to remind it to build defences.

[@donmosquito7868]

I did this exact experiment but on regicide and I've come to a personal conclusion that the DE AI is affected by what civ it is playing. On the first game the DE AI was Bulgarians and it lost really early. Barerly had any units and it got overrun quickly. Lots of idle time. On the second game it was Spanish and it looked like the same thing as the first game would happen again but somehow the DE AI prevailed and it managed to get a good enough economy to start pushing back until it won.

[@fabriziocossio3336]

Civilization choise does affect which strategy it uses I have seen the new ai do a successful goth flood while on other civs it struggles to even get to castle age

[@ITRIEDEL]

Regicide AI sucks

[@sorrysren]

Nobody: The Trumpets: DOO DOOO DOO DOOOOOO

[@samueljett7807]

Those are horns not trumpets

[@dx_Rain_xb]

Town Centers: SHHHH HAAAA

[@Leonardodeboni0406]

When the horns of war never stop u know ir about to get screwd

[@HadouGun]

Red was expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

[@RodrigoRocha-of2xb]

but nobody expect the spanish inquisition

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

@@RodrigoRocha-of2xb except the Bulgarians apparently...

[@warbreakr]

4:47 look at how the scout magnificently pushes the deer towards the TC, beautiful

[@tvremote9394]

13:08 me when spirit uploads a 35 minute video at 2 am but I have final exams starting next morning

[@AHappyCub]

I'm gonna watch it, not gonna watch it, I'm gonna watch it, not gonna watch it,

[@wolfhill-194]

good luck

[@rentabledwarf578]

@@Tensku98 BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU END STAYING AWAKE ALL NIGHT And then you end up naked in some gypsie's home...don't ask.

[@WhiteboyUltima]

It's a shame you can't individually select the difficulty level for each AI player

[@games_bay]

this looks like ai torture mate

[@alex_zetsu]

One thing funny about the CD AI is if you hijack it for a moment in late game and order it to make villagers, if the extra villagers won't fit with its scripts, it will suicide them. I did some AI VS AI games and you can actually give commands (although the AI will usually override them) and at one point I noticed the AI had 380 food and wasn't making villagers. It had only 20 left after ran attack from the other AI, so I tried to see how it would react to this. If you do this in castle age when the AI tries to save up for Imperial, it just uses the extra villager. In this case however, it just suicided it. I find this strange since while the CD AI is very basic, I thought it would realize that it needed to farm food to sell for gold and I already watched it use the market to get gold in feudal age. It's fun to watch the CD AI in replays. One frustrating thing about it if you make one of them an ally is that it might wall off its base and leave the intended locations for the gates in forest... and it will only make those gates if you chop the wood away.

[@polakalbi]

"The new AI wipes up the floor with the Old AI!" The new AI: 13:05

[@AbsolutCHP]

Yup fortunately Skynet is far from being ready!

[@Furymgs3]

It's trying to lull them into a false sense of security. Definitely next level AI at play here.

[@planescaped]

Even the new AI isn't immune to a bit of herppa-derp

[@Fera-gr5mm]

Yeah even a single villager can easily kill any only-ranged unit

[@archangle2988]

@Honudes Gai GREETINGS PROFESSOR FALCEN. SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?

[@Skidwell19]

I think it deserves another shot. It lost its scout really early, which could have effected its choices later on. Ontop of this, most late game civs were in a relatively safe position. The huns would have been easier for the AI to go up against if it happened to spawn next to the ai, as it would not be as hung up on clutter like houses etc. Even if it actually ended up forcing red to resign, it might have been able to safely get the gold it desparately needed. I would be interested in watching another video like this.

[@Davion197]

I find this more interesting than watching actual players play...

[@golternator333]

Will be the future of e sports

[@happyfacesmanager4295]

Same, i almost let computers play rather than me and i watch them lmao

[@Davion197]

@i hate anime it is an ancient thing, a zoomer like you wouldn't get it. zoom zoom, little zoomie.

[@spacewargamer4181]

@@golternator333 AI League already exists in Starcraft 2. The one that I remember right now is called Deepmind.

[@solinvictus4367]

4:54 that is actually really cool. The AI scout cav is pushing the deer towards the TC

[@jaishkhan7442]

Damn i was waiting for the intro (after every fade)....

[@lucianoromero9643]

11:19 that AI had some PTSD from the fourth scenario of Atila.

[@eccentrichorse11]

Yeah that twist really screwed me up. I went from partying to resigning in under 5 min Luckily I had a save folder and was able to complete the second time

[@fafofafin]

Best comment right here

[@INRamos13]

The interdimensional wall is to defend from the Pac-Man strategy of going all the way around the map.

[@jdkomododragon]

"... so let's check it out." ::SotL theme doesn't play:: *weeps silently to myself*

[@ddenozor]

Red builds walls not to stop outsiders from getting in,but to stop his own subjects from running away when the war with Blue starts. Red villagers had to escape the other way where they were able to survive and rebuild. Genius wall.

[@Dj3ndo]

This was fun! Would like to see more of these with different setups/civs!

[@alexstauffer3359]

I have noticed the new AI isn't attached to lumber/mining camps like the HD version. However, it appears to have transferred that obsession to docks. I've seen up to 10 lined up side by side, occasionally blocking in some of the map has a bay with a narrow mouth.

[@franzluggin398]

I did the same test with two major differences: I picked Cumans for the new AI and increased the pop limit to 300 instead of 200, and the DE AI actually _did_ wipe the floor with the old ones. It wasn't even close. So they may not have lied when they said that's what they saw. They might just not have tested on the same map and rules setup as you. EDIT: Here's a screenshot of the timeline: drive.google.com/open?id=1ThJdrepTSRHHhYUTjeJnNVv6DUtlddD8

[@Manuel1995BEL]

Do you have the score overview too?

[@franzluggin398]

@@Manuel1995BEL The new AI had 50k military score alone, probably 70k total. The strongest CD AI (cyan) was at less than 19k, team average capped at less than 8k, I think.

[@whisperwalkful]

Pop limit being 300 is already not a 1v7...it's more like a 1.5v7 at that point. Unless all 7 AI also increased their pop to 300. Early Cumans are broken, let the DE AI try it again with the nerfed cumans. Also devs said "every single time wipe the floor" this is pretty absolute even 1 case would disprove the devs so clearly they are wrong.

[@franzluggin398]

@@whisperwalkful I do not need to prove anything to you, and there is no way one of us can prove to the other how truthful the devs were when they said what they said. To be honest, I do not overly care. It was an obvious marketing move during a convention that is obviously only there to build up hype rather than inform the consumer. I wish that that were different, but it is how it is. If you want to talk about my or Spirit's test game, feel free to, but please do not see me as your enemy. It was a standard game, so every player had the same 300 pop cap. I started recording this game after Spirit released his video, already knowing the AI would lose if not given more bonuses, so obviously I tried to tweak the parameters more in their favour. Doing the opposite would just have very obviously resulted in another loss.

[@Progeusz]

I think the statement WAS real at the time it was stated - but later the devs decided to update old AI and now it's much better than originally.

[@0range1968UK]

maybe 1 new AI + 1 old AI [so they can trade] vs 6 old ? thanks I enjoyed that, i played the original in Taiwan in 1995 and loved the AOE series.. i can't always game as i'm physically disabled -so it's nice to watch video's like these or on twitch.. thanks again 0range.

[@Sheevlord]

So, how many old AIs can the new AI take on at once and reliably win? 3? 4? This could be an interesting experiment

[@miguelzavaleta1911]

Agreed. From this video, it looks like it could win against 4 most of the time. We need more data.

[@raulbezerra1929]

2v6 maybe?

[@Optim121]

@@raulbezerra1929 I think the new AI would win a 2v6. Once it has a good gold income it's impossible to stop

[@ITRIEDEL]

1 vs 5 I did it just a few hours ago. All random. 200 pop.

[@ITRIEDEL]

That was just one time. 1 vs 4 reliably

[@xanadeboi]

Great Video! I would love to watch more of you on these type of real time comments about what's going on videos!!

[@TheDualnuts]

6:10 Maybe it’s just coincidence, but at the moment barrack and feudal age finished at the same time chills my spine somehow

[@ryugaminesatomi9683]

Same here

[@dwaynethart6527]

Hit the first hit on the barracks when you’re 60% of the way to feudal and this happens every time. A simple matter to program, and useful in game so you can drop the next building right next to it.... archery range, blacksmith, depends what you want

[@Alkhalim]

The new ai is pretty impressive. Did not expect them to perform this well.

[@noname-wo9yy]

I always found the old ai to rush at early castle age, once it threw that fairly large army at you it was basically done. The new one i feel just cheats it bring out lots of skirmishers/archers and starts to micro them away perfectly, even against mangonels which is just stupid.

[@mercenarymudcrab]

I remember that in AoC the AI would wall but not close gaps like when wood lines got cut later. The unofficial fan-patch back then fixed that but with the side effect that the AI would replace destroyed gates with walls - trapping themselves eventually inside their own base.

[@DamienGranz]

I know you're comparing the two different AIs out of the 3 or so made (between original, HD and this version), but I remember when this game was relatively new the AI would often just like, quit the game within minutes with some message like "All my houses faced east. No wonder thou were't victorious" or if they lost their first like 3 man-at-arms or whatever they made they'd decide they weren't coming back and quit instantly too, unless you put them on regicide so they had the king and felt they couldn't quit unless the king died. It's part of why they made an option in 3 to straight up disable the computer's ability to resign, as a compromise between 2's auto resign immediately vs. the first game where you had to *painstakingly* hunt down *every single* villager or building, the AI would run into the woods to hide from you. Or you'd roll up and find them just.. sitting there in their starting position. Like at least one was always like that, no matter what. You kind of always had to set the game up for +1 more AI than you actually wanted to face because one was always just going to sit there in the Dark Ages and if you're lucky they'd be chopping wood or digging a berry bush maybe, stockpiling 30 thousand food but not buying a single unit, but that's it. So the fact you had AI actually.. doing anything at all makes me think it's not the original version.

[@Zawazuki]

I just watched all of that. I loved the comparison, man! we need a 2v6

[@leifchipman5315]

4:44 WHAT!? Look at the AI lure that deer in PERFECTLY.

[@Dr.Kananga]

Red:"Yes, we build walls, we build them against darkness, against the unknown."

[@Ainsley_the_meat_rubber]

I see the definitive AI breaks when facing multiple players

[@stefani.5737]

You're listening to this with audio on right? Listen to all those "your shit is getting raided" warnings. I'd have caved a long time ago in its place :)))

[@Ahmed-kr2vx]

Man this was absolutely epic!! It was so intense and expert commentary! I didnt think i d be so engaged watching AIs play each other

[@iare19]

Red knew what others didn't: White Walkers are behind that wall.

[@kirkkipfer]

The blue AI was pushing the deer to TC at 4:45! Thats so cool! Great vid!

[@julianrodriguezadami6634]

Listening lets check it out and not being followed by your music it hurts man.

[@venderson7850]

You're right it's just not the same

[@Lockieez]

Probably did it because long intros can be a turn off for new viewers and there are plenty of them coming in with the release of DE.

[@mister420blazeit2]

@@Lockieez No.

[@julianrodriguezadami6634]

Its 10 seconds long and for me at Least pump up the attention.

[@27648281]

Lockie maybe he’s making a new intro for his new videos but it’s not ready yet?

[@grendo45]

4:48 look at the scout and the deer, wow, hes bringing the deer to the tc

[@Michael-wg1gk]

So how many old AIs can the new AI take on at once? I would watch all of those vids until we find a answer^^

[@Fawlker]

I'd say to try this again in a "2 vs 6".

[@miguelsilva1446]

it may have a chance against 7 still If it doest fuck up with the early archers again, or maybe just fast castles I did this experiment once with resonace Bot, and it beat the 7 Conquerors Ai, as Koreans, it was in black forest though

[@ITRIEDEL]

I did a 1 vs 5 old AI and it won. All random civs. A few times I thought it was a goner but it bounced back.

[@CrnaStrela]

1v5 or 2v8

[@ALE.9993]

9:50 That was actually a pretty smart move by the Conquerors AI, although I have a little feeling it wasn't their intention to lure their enemy.

[@TheCatVtuber]

Maybe 2 vs 6 will do it, since they have trade for the late-game. 1 vs 7 was a bit much.

[@MrAllan9]

This game will not die, I've been playing for 15 yrs and tried new games as well, but always come back to this one, mostly because Microsoft put the editor with the game.👍

[@MrMrdhmhtrhs7]

Why am i even watching this, i've never played any age of empires game ever

[@Jay-fs2nw]

You adding such great commentary to this really helped make this a great video!

[@palanikumar7877]

I guess you have to give it to the new AI for holding out 01:19 (+1Hour) against all odds. Also, I see the biggest problem at the early stage was it was not able to decide which one to attack, as you can see the units moving back and forth. AI has this weakness if you attack its town the entire attacking army will return back to defend its town.

[@whisperwalkful]

Actually holding out for 1 hr isnt impressive at all considering the old AI doesnt upgrade its shit, has no boars and just booms all the way. Basically the old AI's strategy is to leave alone for 30 mins.

[@Yawyna124]

@@whisperwalkful Uuuh, it was simultaneously coordinating attacks on two different opponents at one point and ended up with a score triple to any other opponent. It's pretty hecking impressive.

[@whisperwalkful]

@@Yawyna124 not very impressive when you consider the old AI is so much poorer. Forgoing boars and deer alone is a massive disadvantage.

[@Yawyna124]

@@whisperwalkful Mmm, no, still pretty impressive.

[@whisperwalkful]

@@Yawyna124 put it this way im not a strong player and i can easily cheese three CD AI. CD AI are unbelievably useless, You're only looking at numbers, but you're comparing five militia to one elephant.

[@princeimrahil6557]

This is absolutely fascinating. I love it when Spirit watches AI games

[@agentafter]

I miss the intro every time you say let's check it out

[@mothgirlenjoyer]

I have no idea why I'm here, what's happening, or even what game I'm watching but it's 3am so I'm interested.

[@phg3646]

That comment from the devs was a lie yep. It clearly meant 1vs7 and not FFA. The AI is better for sure! But there is still some room to improve of course

[@LaplacianFourier]

I really enjoyed this video. It was like watching a soccer game. Would love to see you do 1 vs 5 or so.

[@reformCopyright]

"My peasant huts were all facing different directions." That's the explanation the blue AI gave for why it lost.

[@chabri2000]

seems legit

[@UncleRob_2017]

Hey SotL, could you make a video about the various symbols each civ now has in DE2 (for example, the Japanese symbol is a chrysanthemum - the emperor's throne is AKA the chrysanthemum throne)? Having a history lesson about each symbol would be awesome and would help people remember them as well. Thanks in advance! 💜

[@vegannegan9652]

Spirit, can you do a video in which you compare Two-Man Saw vs Crop Rotation? I wonder which is better for your wood eco.

[@cherrydragon3120]

not sure if you're trolling… but crop rotation is for farms... wich is a food source. how does that affect your wood income in any way other then being able to produce villagers

[@joshuarothfus1912]

@@cherrydragon3120 The less often you need to replant farms the more wood you save. So both allow you to increase your available wood supply.

[@vegannegan9652]

@@cherrydragon3120 No it's a wood buff. Because reseeding farms cost wood. With Crop Rotation farms last longer so you safe wood.

[@RTB3550]

im pretty sure two man saw would still be better unless you have over a 100 farmers in a several hour long game

[@houndofculann1793]

@@cherrydragon3120 Not sure if YOU'RE trolling too when you didn't get what the question meant. Yes Crop Rotation technically just buffs farms but since the buff is for capacity instead of farming speed, in practise that means your food just costs less wood to produce. Hence, it's better for your wood economy. The food gain rate stays the same.

[@iforgot87872]

This is surprisingly fascinating.

[@archygrey9093]

Imagine if all 7 old ai just attacked blue with their starting scouts

[@resurgencegamer718]

I love your commentary on these A.I. games. All the good tips! But i especially like your comments when the A.I. does something derpy XD