2 New AI vs 6 Old AI

[@MeGustaR00sta]

Blue: “Sir, they have us outnumbered three to one!” Red: “Then it is an even fight.”

[@stylesrj]

To be fair, the Elites were operating the Covenant M1 Abrams compared to the T-34's equivalents the Brutes were using... so to the Shipmaster it would be an even fight.

[@johnpepper8603]

I just have to say first answer that came into my mind : Stupid rebellion then.

[@JonatasAdoM]

Also don't forget about my wood.

[@espi371]

All Barracks spam Gothic Champions, swarm their mongrel hives.

[@espi371]

*ALL UNITS*

[@Skaitania]

1 and 2: How I wish I could play. 4 and 5: How I think I can play. 3, 6, 7 and 8: How I actually play.

[@chrisgray8713]

@@topaz173 same :(

[@avwmedia3951]

Topaz even that Franks could destroy me easily by itself 🙂

[@v.h4001]

can't wait for the "2 spirit of the law versus 6AI" video

[@KleberDKurosaki]

I've seen that type of meme in other RTS game related channel =^)

[@MALEMization]

Spirit+TheViper+DauT+Fatslob vs 8 AI! (I forgot if a map can hold 12 players or not)

[@Kortexual]

I would guarantee the human players would wipe the floor against 8 ai. Spirit of the Law could probably take on 4 by himself lol.

[@MALEMization]

@@Kortexual Even the Elite ones?!

[@skumomcbee1255]

(slight reverb) Hey guys, I just cloned myself so I could test out the Definitive Edition AI, You can tell which one is the real Spirit because he's better, or..wait...

[@eccentrichorse11]

Frank Old Ai: Goes full on beries Spirit: Oh it is using the faster collection bonus Me: I dont think that was intentional

[@Kevin-wx7wu]

Yeah it's just a coincidence it happened to be franks, it always does that

[@m4st3rm1nd9]

@@Kevin-wx7wu True. It's just the default go to when you don't have sheep.

[@xarin42]

pretty sure spirit was aware of it too XD

[@Kevin-wx7wu]

@@xarin42 yes he should, he made a point of it in the old ai vs hd ai(huns mirror match) video

[@bruno-vs2cm]

Caloricsleet94 aoe2 definitive. Call me

[@ShadowChozo]

It took 20 years, but the AI finally learned to not throw whole armies into castles like the Somme was running out of fashion. Progress!

[@rainbowevil]

It now just prefers a light tickling from the castles, before running away again!

[@Toopa88]

@AlexNOSAM What's the meaning of that "computer science major"-term at the end of your comment? In case you used it to strengthen your "point": you didn't say anything technical.

13:06 If you look at the minimap, you can see that poor red sheep finally fulfilled her duty and was called back home. "And now her watch is ended." F

[@HeliosExeunt]

Good catch. I wanted to ask but saw this. Looks like the sheep actually made it all the way back too.

[@eclipsez0r]

It's an he

[@HECKproductions]

her?? no girls in the watch dude

[@kishi8774]

good one! i forgot about the sheep lmao

[@voxkine9385]

“It’s quite vocal about getting resources....” Yea, and the AI can go chop its’ own wood! Gave the AI 4K wood and it asked for more 2 min later...

[@Irondragon1945]

You dense madman thats not the kind of wood it had in mind.

[@cmbeadle2228]

@@Irondragon1945 dear penthouse, I didn't know it would ever happen to me but I wad astonished when the AI of Age of Empires made flirtatious advances towards me....

[@derpidius6306]

@@Irondragon1945 When they said intelligent AI was dangerous, this wasn't what I had in mind

[@caseblue2232]

There are never enough woods

[@nightmare4eVerr1]

These comments are what i love most

[@tvremote9394]

we all have a green ai in our personal lives - that nonchalant person who's utterly disinterested in what's happening around them, just want to focus on their own life without a care of anything else while everyone else is running around and fighting each other for success in life

[@stefan_c.76]

No need to worry about my username, that’s me.

[@belland_dog8235]

I mean yeah, that's pretty much what I do

[@LuckyAJC]

Meeeeeee

[@jonsnow3919]

“Green, green, what’s your problem green?”

[@nofanfelani6924]

They just want a quite peaceful life, sadly the game didn't let them have it.

[@SneedEnjoyer]

22:35 "Yea they gonna get through that gate in not too long" *AI just walks through*

[@cfv7461]

pal, what an eyesight

[@AortexSP]

Did he phase in lmao

[@dominikmagnus]

just passing

[@Sesshomaru474]

@1234 Blue: You saw nothing!

[@r1pp3rr0]

27:55 treb going through a closed gate because yes.

[@MrGollum1996]

Alessandro P. Wow didnt even notice it first time i watched lol

[@NicholasEzclapz]

Advanced *T E C H N O L O G Y*

[@mr.epigone]

22:35 a magyan hussar passes a closed gate as well. blue probably is wallhacking

[@varunmanjunath9123]

It is secretly a T-1000... *Trebuchet-1000* O_o

[@smansab59]

The cavalry too, when blue attacks gray's gates.

[@josueromerotorrico4453]

Cuauhtemoc did his best trying to carry all this noobs.

[@Im_pieta]

you could say he was doing his berry best.

[@ricardobautista-garcia8492]

yup.

[@nick0653]

The Eagle Warrior rush was one of the few times the new AIs had to fully break off their attacks to coordinate a proper counter for that.

[@ottomanpapyrus9365]

Here is what really impressed me about the updated AI: -The AI strategies include various rushes -Sheep scouting -Lures deer with scout - Will walk through holes in your wall to raid your town -go around your castle -Kite archers in groups What really took me off-guard.. is that the AI will send a villager to repair mangonels. I had to double-check that I wasn't fighting a human opponent While the updated AI still got some of the original AI's flaws (like still never walling and spastic against trushes)I never in my wildest dreams would have predicted such a vastly improved AI.

[@thompsonvac2896]

SOTL has such a buttery voice and I love it

[@ryankaiser2702]

Makes you wonder what he’ll sound like when he’s eating a steak

[@20the20]

for real, i just found this guy and i wish he would narrate all the games i watch

[@torinjones3221]

He talks to slow. I have go watch on 2× speed

[@derlou88]

Torin Jones he is talking quite fast and clear

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@torinjones3221 At leas you can speed, I can't slow down fast talkers.

[@FinetalPies]

Oh shit yeah the intro is back ;o; Worth the wait for that new DE footage. Can't wait to watch the intro build up over time all over again

[@arjunnava]

12:18 "Those walls. Thats some weird AI there.. its only going to delay" Me: Walls in front of villagers makes them feel safe and be more productive. dont judge ......

[@devangnivatkar2649]

I love it when the AIs ask for all resources simultaneously and it ends up sounding like 'fold please!' /s

[@benstephens4488]

Love the new intro can’t wait till you finish it

[@evvec1490]

isn't that Karambit intro version... Was use like 1-2 month Ago?

[@jcpkill1175]

@@evvec1490 You need to look at it again, and keep watching it. Over and over until you finally see it.

[@evvec1490]

@@jcpkill1175 what am i looking at? It Same as 1 or 2 month ago.. Edited* nvm

[@doodlestories3367]

it is beautiful

[@dark_mage2]

My favourite strategy of the new AI is the strategic sheep patrol. And I loll'd so hard when the frank AI stone walled his own lumberjacks. Whatever AI lacks in finer logic, it more than surpasses with multi-tasking and macro-management.

[@donxnik]

He knows something we Don't

[@Kasperskytron]

18:44 love that 40 minute imperial-age militia

[@johanbee8757]

Nice eye, took a while to notice it.

[@matheuswagner5198]

Took down a Onager by himself, true hero.

[@EdwardNavu]

Mungo the Mangonel meets its match... or is it?

[@dominikmagnus]

- Mom, can we have champions - We have champions at home Champions at home:

[@niccolom]

Blue: There's six of them and two of us. Red: LET'S GO MUG'EM!

[@zjoee]

VLDL for life!

[@TheGreenMittenz]

I kind of want to see a 1v1 of AIs each with a human "ally" that can only use the commands to try and direct the AI to victory.

[@schmid1.079]

That could be really funny. :D

[@SlyAceZeta]

That would be really cool!

[@HansLemurson]

it would be an RTS played with an RTS! o.O

[@ObviusRetard]

someone should make a map as a 4v4, with a player on each side in a big fortress but with no way to build units or get eco, and 3 AIs each which the players have to direct against each other

[@ObviusRetard]

@@DefineReality it doesn't seem like you have to tell the ais all that much, certainly much less than when actually playing the game

[@Walterion]

New intro in DE graphics! HYPE

[@Sunlight91]

I tested 6 vs 2 extensively with the HD AI and they always beat the original CD AI on pure land maps. It's different with water though where they tend to lose sometimes. The HD AI does especially well with ranged units, because they just send units into the general direction of the enemy and the range helps attacking actual targets.

[@Jonay1990]

Yet again, I'm watching someone watching a computer play against another computer...

[@DefineReality]

And that's not even including the fact that reality is simulated to begin with.

[@estebalstigopopoluz]

Hey man, i Read your comment on another video, funny running into you again 🙂

[@asjoowjcs9858]

Karambitcoin's value going down instead of up like the old intro lol

[@Acount1100]

Spirit, could you try out the new AI commands by doing a 2v2 where the human players are only allowed to feed and command?

[@roflswamp6]

That would be amazimg id place bets on that

[@aerismagia8058]

That’d actually be really cool.

[@VikingofZach]

dad got me on original aoe almost 15 years ago, havent touched it for almost 10 years. Watching one of your videos got me to get definitive. Great vids man.

[@nofanfelani6924]

Imagine trying to destroy a stone building with volley of arrows.

[@kcnq2245]

Imagine succeeding

[@smallpseudonym2844]

_"Not at the towers! Aim for the trolls!"_

[@AbhishekNag666]

Okay bloodseeker.

[@CrnaStrela]

*Obsidian arrows intensifies*

[@CongaYT]

8:46 Blue's getting so cocky, it's helping the enemy AI with their bear

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

1:25 The most important part of the video, in glorious modern graphics. Love it!

[@evanrudibaugh8772]

The handling of walls by both old and new AI is weird. The old AI never linked their walls together - they'd leave all kinds of awkward no-man's lands between their allies. The new AI still gets super hung up about encountering walls. It sometimes seems to mass archers against a fortified wall... that they can just walk around.

[@tvremote9394]

the de intro!!! love it! but please don't shorten it, bring it back to the original length :(

[@Progeusz]

I loved how Franks went from no-militia-drush to stone-wall-off-your-own-lumber-camp to 50-minutes-imp and finally no-bracer-cav-archers

[@Lunion4saken]

27:57 just a trebuchet sliding through a closed gate.

[@UltimateTobi]

*Gate is open for a sec* Trebuchet: Don't mind if I do. Edit: Oh wow it wasn't open indeed.

[@Infarlock]

Would love to see New AI vs New AI vs 6 Old AI 3 teams

[@xfi6658]

OMG THE NEW INTRO

[@Eidenhoek]

6:03 ELEPHANT MONK NEW UNIT YESSSSS oh awwwwww New patch: Persian war elephants can convert other elephants to the cause!

[@Daxter250]

22:36 huh?! how the heck was the cavalry at the right gate being able to get through? O.o btw. the old a.i. rarely slings. in fact, when they die they just give all their ressources to the next teamplayer.

[@BrownFoxWarrior]

12:03 Sounds like you said "evil warrior" But is it bad that I root more for the CD AI during these?

[@cfv7461]

bcs he tried to steal da sheep

[@Arborvitar]

subtitles said that too

[@guilhermesartorato93]

8:05 There was a Scot having fun with her sister behind the tree, and she was awaiting her time. Now I understand the importance of walling the edge of the map. * _The things that come from the dark void_ *

[@damiennixel925]

Early game red: Please stop bullying me with eagle warriors Late game red: I will destroy your bloodline with siege weapons

[@lit3plumber12]

I think 1v4 would be a tense matchup. Hope you decide to do more of these, I'm thoroughly enjoying them.

[@ejga]

Finally the intro :D ... I hope that it'll become longer as more games are played and more highlights get clipped. I'm glad about the supremacy villager, the demo-ship, the goth gameplan and the lightsabers (which last too little though). I still need a couple insane onager headshots and some nice micro (and a horse-moonwalk if possible). I'd also love some broken-Steppelancers and respawning Konniks clips.

[@Eon2641]

I feel like if the Franks had actually shown up the old AI may have stood a chance, those early eagles looked pretty dicey for a second but without any support they couldn't keep the pressure on

[@MrMaro1995]

Eagles were not Frankish. They were Aztec.

[@RikoZerame]

@@MrMaro1995 That's the point. The Frankish civ didn't throw any units out until well after everyone else was depleted. The old AI were all allied, so Tiger was saying that some support from the Franks would have let the Aztec Eagles Warriors keep up the pressure.

[@Binarokaro]

This series is so good honestly, I can't wait to see more

[@MakoWoman]

Awesome video! Cool to see an updated intro, and watching AI match-ups is really interesting!

[@someguy3987]

NOOOOOO shortened intro? I love your old intro and never skipped it ;_;

[@Wockes]

riot!

[@sgtvoro]

@@Wockes Must agree. We need the long one.

[@poioio96]

I'll go back to my 10 hours loop after the video Or before, as intro? 🤔

[@smkay6381]

maybe he is working on remaking the intro on DE

[@poioio96]

@@smkay6381 well, the Goth Gameplan has HD grass now, so sounds good :D

[@iltruval]

The intro is back! And it's more beautiful than ever! Also, great video, thanks for everything Spirit.

[@Elbow78]

Living for the AI vs AI videos

[@Tonixman]

Nice job re-creating your intro! Was not expecting that!

[@itsameearl]

One thing I learned from these videos that I could use against AIs is use battering rams.

[@CustardCream515]

I don't know why youtube recommended a channel focussing on a game I've not played in 10 years but boy am I glad it did

[@Soldier842]

Spirit, can you do a video on how strong “All Tech” would be if it were a civilization?

[@ThomasJProd]

Love the new vs old videos. I've gotten back into playing AoE2 again and I'm glad I did.

[@zagzeg]

Liked because you put the intro song back in, even though it should be longer.

[@blazedyoda8608]

It's really interesting to see you try and decipher some sort of meaning from the actions the AI do

[@dejandavis4806]

These videos have been randomly suggested and now I’m addicted

[@justrecentlyi5444]

Intro music! I'm so happy to hear it again :D

[@verinityvoid]

Came here cause AoE2 Definitive Edition videos were recommended to me, staying here for the diversity of content in relation to AoE2 (despite me only being familiar with AoE3). Also i would love to see more AI battles! These really fascinate me for some reason.

[@S4SA93]

Super satisfying commentating aswell, you have a relaxing voice, do some more videos like this :P

[@piotr7805]

The refreshed intro is neat, can't wait for more content ^^

[@mambojambo4870]

You updated the Intro with DE graphics, love it!!!

[@themitri8519]

12:51 the new AI is just like "I'm 15 moves ahead of you and everyone else"

[@xypezproductions5569]

Watched the 1v7 now this. I think it would be amazing with one where you did a 1v7 and 2v6 but where all the ai was the same exact nations/factions so that we can really see the difference in the ai. That way they have the same units stats and available buildings+ bonuses. What do you guys think? :)

[@stephenh9483]

I love Spirit's new intro so much!!!! YES

[@kgrgod]

Just what i was waiting for, ty

[@napoleoncomplex2712]

I seem to remember having an easy time with the AI in my first campaign in HD against the Huns. Until I got to mission 4... the first mission where the AI gets to go imperial. At which point, the AI started churning out wave after wave of paladins and crossbows. The HD AIs and later seem to get particularly vicious once they hit Imperial Age.

[@nathanbarnes8535]

If it's the 4th mission on the Attila campaign, it's because the Franks in that mission use Chivalry, a tech which increases their stable output by 40%. Means they can churn out Paladins at will. Ridiculous.

[@TheGeoCheese]

Nathan Barnes challenge accepted I say. I’ll just throw spearman at them! Look at them quiver in fear!

[@chrisdelzell8467]

@@TheGeoCheese *watches their archers 'quiver' in fear*

[@sherifhesham3733]

Oh my God he actually made the intro Thank you spirit ❤️

[@ToanTran-po8ig]

Lost track of what point the patroling sheep was lost

[@NotoriousPyro]

I done this myself with a ludicrous map. The battle raged on for ages as they all advanced to imperial age and all had relatively large armies. I'll try and get some time to replay it and upload it :)

[@Copperhell144]

New intro! Yay! It's somewhat shorter? Aww...

[@antoniojimenezpastor304]

As usual, great video! Always great to listen to you talking about AoE2 Btw: loving the new DE intro ;)

[@Ahmed-kr2vx]

Aboslutely loved this! you need to do more of these

[@theisgood0]

I like this experiment :) its a game I grew up playing so its awesome to see someone be just as passionate. keep up the good work :D great videos.

[@bravomike4734]

If the new AI is very aggressive with its scout, does it mean the AI scouting is aggressive or the top ELO players' scouting is aggressive? As well as going under the TC too much.

[@Dj3ndo]

Would love to see more of these with some different setups. I like it!

[@JonatasAdoM]

In the future AI will be unbeatable. Imagine being able to micromanage infantry, arches, cavalry and siege at the same time,, where the humans players are focusing on one army.

[@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860]

yay, definitive intro!

[@Stickyforbricks]

22:37 anyone else see the hussar run straight through the gate?

[@irbz2252]

id like to see tons of these, 1 old and 1 new as a team, 2 new 1 old against 1 new all else old, and even just doing it again but picking the civilizations and making interesting comps, i really like these ai battles.

[@Kevin-wx7wu]

Diet intro? I would like to see the definitive edition when a big video drops

[@TheFaqvideos]

Hey Spirit! As a suggestion I was wondering if you could do a playthrough of the campaigns I'm sure a lot of people would enjoy your commentary on them and maybe some trivia of the historical events being depicted.

[@dmitriycapasso305]

This is Skynet

[@fallenplays]

Never played this game in my life. Can still appreciate good ol' AI vs AI from all the other RTSs I've played.

[@M3atheadGaming]

Thanks for sharing, recently I`ve started playing aoe2 again and your videos are very useful !

[@mdorey]

That sheep patrolling in front of the tree cracked me up way more than it should have.

[@palanikumar7877]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I just guess, their ability to sustain hard blows and then come back (continuing the production) was the key.

[@fbritorufino]

11:52 Such a diligent sheep guarding the area. Who's a good boy?

[@kaibaCorpHQ]

You could say now it's *DEFINITIVE*

[@Ruperdepuup]

I would like to see more of these comparisons. There are also the AIs from Forgotten Empires. These seemed to be a step up compared to the original AIs. How about 4, 5 or 6 Hordes of Forgotten Empires against two new AIs? Et cetera.

[@houndofculann1793]

Subbed for having the intro again!

[@princeimrahil6557]

He protecc He attacc But most importantly: THE INTRO IS BACC

[@mateomurseli4086]

hey man great vid, please make more vids like this with AI

[@darylgraham4313]

Thank you for doing more Ai vs Ai, it's such easy watching. I have an appetite for more. Like do predicted civ wins actually happen in new Ai vs new Ai?

[@psyjinx]

Haven't watched yet, but I'm so excited this got done.

[@SirGalahadCtny]

But what about that sheep? Damn you, I need conclusion!

[@GOTHICforLIFE1]

I mean i don't really play AoE, but for some reason i find it really fun when we see how computers solve issues :o Really interesting despite me not really knowing any tactics myself :D Keep it up! I'm subscribed!

[@AbhishekNag666]

This series must continue. Nothing better than watching new upgraded bots fighting old bots and destroying them 👀

[@robertlister5192]

Love these videos we need you to play a game with you against a number of extreme new ai.

[@gmenos6252]

Old AI plays huns and goths really well Other civs not too much in the original cd