(1 of 1000) Headphones | R70X Refine First Impressions

[@loutrepolemique5951]

One more headphones you can't get delivered in Europe. That's upsetting

[@user-pj5ju9sm5r]

there's plenty other services that brings products into eu from USA. you will pay extra for shipping tho.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

​@user-pj5ju9sm5r you'll pay 40% in import charges. The OP is correct. It is none viable.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

​@user-pj5ju9sm5r "but but it's still pos..." anythings possible if you're rich :) but normal people dont feel like spending 40% more than they should do is an option.

[@Woupsme]

​@@user-pj5ju9sm5rHave you tried importing stuff to Europe from the US? With shipping, taxes and handling fees it'll easily be a 450-500% headset instead of 300

[@luigismilazzo]

Take the ar5000 and forget the rest

[@trellusg]

Apos official Head-Fi user has definitively said there are NO changes internally. The only change is the pad, and visually on the build as the color is different. It also has a shorter cable. Those are literally the only differences between this limited edition run and the stock R70x. This presumably means if you can at some point get these exact pads separately, you can sonically get the same exact results on a stock R70x by just swapping the pad.

[@arnarn4112]

Thanks for the review. I would have been interested in ordering this, but you could have said this is available for USA and Canada only. No shipping option to Europe.

[@louisteerlinck7228]

How does this compare to the Aune Audio AR5000?

[@Enzo_560]

Just saw this and then a perfectly timed review, honestly this helps with the decision on the normal r70x

[@Nick_in_the_6ix]

How could you keep the AR5000 in the background but not compare? 😅 Why?

[@Reyas]

I loved my R70X. The only issue I eventually had with it was its durability and eventually its repairability. Worst thing is they've kept the same swivel system as the OG R70X.

[@topandrun126]

We need a 2024 DAC tier list it's over due.

[@gdemirjian]

I got excited when you had the AR5000 out on the table, but then you did not compare these two $299 headphones. Please share your thoughts comparing the two in response to this comment. Thanks!

[@SuperBackBacon]

just recently bought a pair of R70X's for ~$215 and i've been impressed by it! i swapped out the pads for brainwavz XL round pads and they're now my most comfortable headphones by a long shot. these look so nice, a shame that's it's only US/Canada

[@VENOM-vq3ju]

Leather ear pads increase bass and low-mids. As a result, your headset is inferior to the original model.

[@SuperBackBacon]

@@VENOM-vq3ju it's a matter of preference man lmao

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

​@@VENOM-vq3ju typical reddit mod comment

[@VENOM-vq3ju]

@@SuperBackBacon So it's no longer Hi-Fi = High Fidelity. I have the R70X and basically I have to lower the bass and the low-midrange. I did the same thing for the HD650 and the HD600 except for the Focal Clear (original model). But how do you manage to listen to various musical genres and especially classical music with such a distorted frequency response curve ?

[@SuperBackBacon]

@@VENOM-vq3ju me when adding bass makes a headphone no longer hi-fi💀

[@RosemarySoriano-n6v]

We appreciate your great review.❤

[@mike_nba]

loved the video Josh! Friendly feedback you should have mentioned it's only available in US and Canada. European fellas and other regions are in shambles. I'm guessing that's why they only make 1000 units? Maybe they test the market to see how it goes and then decide if they will produce more worldwide

[@RokkitAudioKit]

Audio-Technica ATH-R70x Refine VS. Sennheiser HD 490 Pro. Which one is better in regard to FPS games?

[@rhmonii]

U see i like hd 58x A LOT but this one got my eyes on it , i wish you compared them i think that will be much helpful for a lotta people

[@StartreckTu]

I have both hd58x and R70x. R70x neutral and not punchy compared to hd58x but detailed and has good sound stage.

[@graelstream2353]

I have mine :) been loving it, my brother got me a 2nd hand schiit hel+. I am wondering if that would be enough or should I go for the FiiO k11 r2r as the Schiit audio brand isn't really available locally at the south east Asia side..

[@garymalone547]

Had the R70X for a long time. Great cans.

[@intoitreviews]

Very interested how this stacks up with the Japanese R70X. Apos is supposed to send me one eventually...

[@gdemirjian]

Hi Josh. I currently own the Aune AR5000 and would love some feedback on what are the differences (good and bad) between the R70X Refine and the AR5000? Thanks!

[@gdemirjian]

looks like Josh does not provide answers to questions.

[@iknowyounot88]

As a huge R70x fan, I was stoked when I saw the new Refine version and couldn't buy it soon enough.

[@phlask1]

Thanks Josh. Now I'm in the hole $315 (R70x + DX1!).

[@An_Enraged_Pig]

Would you take these over the audeze Maxwell or dt 900 pro X for gaming?

[@StartCodonUST]

I'd never buy a limited-run audio product as a matter of principle. It also just saves me from stress and decision-making anxiety to categorically reject any limited-run audio product no matter the hype. It's already too tempting to impulse-buy something based solely on other people's reviews/impressions, but when there's artificial scarcity, the FOMO and cope just make it too dangerous to objectively make a purchasing decision when there's a time-crunch. It's nice that the price is reduced on this limited-run set, as my other complaint/accusation is that this is just a way to get people to buy something they'd otherwise wait for a sale to pick up. I just hope that this is more of a test platform for introducing more lightweight headphones and refining innovations rather than a flashy one-off, because I haven't ever considered an R70X, but if it's going to be cheaper and more comfortable going forward, I'll keep my ears open for more Audio-Technica stuff.

[@gimmickmusic8827]

Yeah, I talked to one of the team members for this at Apos on reddit and basically voiced my concerns about buying a limited run headphone. But I also told them that while I would definitely be willing to buy the earpads separately and I think a lot of people would be very interested in those earpads as a separate product as well. There aren’t many 3rd party pads that properly fit the R70X, most are in the category of “it works, but it’s not a snug fit.”

[@Silver_Joystix]

I agree with you. The whole idea of a limited run product turns me off. Just make a good product and keep inventory in line with demand. I'm never giving into artificial scarcity.

[@ryanpowell2793]

If you already have the R70X….please don’t buy these. Apos literally states that the driver is not different, only the pads which is why the sound quality changes. Apos may start selling the pads separately from a Reddit post I saw. Better off buying pads from ZMF unless you want these for purely aesthetic reasons or don’t already own the headphones. It’s hard to support a headphone that is “limited release”. Doesn’t feel right.

[@ayamgeprekmurah]

Watching this with my R70x 🎶

[@Peter-gb4ey]

What do you think now? Do you play any FPS games?

[@Slambear]

Thank you for the price thumbnail update 👌

[@ChaoticFoxxie]

for music and gaming would these or the hd 490 pros be better ?

[@StickySli]

I freaking loved my R70X! It's sad that the driver became loose from the bass boost i gave to it.

[@JonathanCholette]

This or the HD 490 Pro?

[@onepieceatatime]

I would be interested in your review of the Brooklyn Bridge. Not the streamer, the actual bridge. Build quality, looks, value for money, relevant comparisons (George Washington Bridge, Golden Gate, London Bridge, etc.), mods, and obviously sound quality.

[@awsan111]

is this the AD900x upgrade I have always wanted?

[@pc750-V4]

Being a R70x user and in the UK I couldn't get these even if I wanted them but the ear pads would be of interest to play with (as I think would be the case with many R70x users) Overall I really don't think there could have been any other internal changes otherwise they would be saying so (and they aren't) so it really seems like an R70x with thicker earpads, shorter cable and gold grills (and a lower price)

[@VSN-wb2ly]

The original r70x is crazy good for the price in some countries (230$ here), i just find it sad because it's overshadowed by sundara and hd600

[@Gooseys11]

I don't get why a good gaming headphone = wide sound stage. Maybe for things like FPS where positional audio is important, but almost every other game I want a nice intimate headphone so I feel immersed in the game. Great sub bass for good explosions and realistic thunder. Dialogue needs to feel clear and realistic while having some weight to it when needed for things like battle cries. I don't need pinpoint positional audio when I'm playing an ARPG or MMO.

[@markshenefelt7611]

Soundstage can make games feel more natural and big. At least to me. When I don’t have good soundstage and a lot of things start happening in game it becomes congested.

[@graelstream2353]

Will the Schiit Gunnr be able to drive this headphone? I'm really new to the space so was wondering if it's enough...

[@heinzl8583]

I think Badseed Tech talks about this specifically in his review of these headphones which dropped today. May wanna check it out

[@Sinsanatis]

@@heinzl8583 yeah he mentions that they do, but recommends using the additional power from the walwart plug. i was wondering too as rn i have a fulla and pretty sure its not going to be enough. so when it comes to it, im now wondering if i should get the gunnr or the magni unity

[@boybrushdred]

Can the topping dx3 pro+ power this? Thinking of getting a regular R70x.

[@TheRealAstro_]

I got the normal r70x recently and was hyped to see this - till I saw only shipping in US and Canada. Dissapointing.

[@ToxMod]

Bro how many headphones should a person honestly own?? Asking for a friend.

[@ragecandy]

24 😂

[@nickpelayo3172]

3 or 4. Different use cases require different headphones

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

1. Learn how to eq and stop the purchase validation addiction like the other two commentators.

[@VSN-wb2ly]

Just buy a headphones with good QC quality and EQ them to death, I'm serious

[@soulfulfool]

I would buy them if I didnt already have ADX5000, even now they are tempting me but it would be waste of money in my case ;) love the idea of special edition of AT headphones thou! PS use tubes they are made for good tubes

[@dentboxhero1717]

ADX3000 will release later this year too

[@soulfulfool]

@@dentboxhero1717 that I didnt know but most likely gonna get bad reviews by most reviewers xD just like big brother adx5000 get 😅 of course its bullshit just because #1 they are paid to promote other brands #2 got their own preferences

[@dentboxhero1717]

@@soulfulfool sad but true and that’s even if they dare to review it lol. This why it’s funny to see these reviewers who despise AT suddenly waving the R70x for you to buy. Now you’ll see their true nature come to light 💡💵

[@Noneya5555]

​​​@@soulfulfoolWhat's your proof of reviewers getting paid to "promote other brands"? So reviews are valid only if they agree with what you like? Smh...

[@soulfulfool]

@@Noneya5555 oh dear Lord tell me that you are nasty woman who try to be the justice one, I dont give a F what they like I usually watch all of them and try to get some similarities and find the truth

[@Sh4kki]

You should try the Tago T3-01 from japan :)

[@markoriordan101]

Shame, no availablity in Europe.

[@calvinyip364]

How does this vs aune ar5000?

[@limftw1565]

God thanks they do not deliver to Germany, so I do not need to spend more money again on headphones 🙈

[@khrysostamos9385]

Why not just make this is an updated version of the r70x???

[@sockhopsinger]

Great video. If the left and right indicators are really hard to see and considered a down side, you could be totally blind like me. Problem solved! LOL ''Really wish there was a good closed back headphone with these specifications at this price point. '

[@Rubiks_LIVE]

how'd they sound on tubes?

[@ayoubmisbah2190]

Can you fo a dt900 prox review❤

[@Tigerex966]

Phillips Sph9500 is also very kight and durable. Fidelio hdx2

[@cibo4569]

Bro chose to compare with the sundara and not the edition xs eventhough it's cheaper than both these headphones 👀

[@thisrocks]

Where’s the Diana DZ review 😢

[@xg9569]

Zen dac v3 review pls 🙏

[@shizukulover]

I had a pair of R70X but the hinge became really brittle and snapped so I replaced them with hd660s2. I got the hd660s2 for 450AUD so it was very much worth it

[@markus301]

Which one you like more and why?

[@dengar6971]

Pads are the only changes. This is straight from Apos.

[@louiev.3367]

Still waiting for my sivga phoenix to break its been 4 years and i resoldered connections too😅

[@Krishnakumar-wl7ih]

I don't know how making just 1000 headphones in 300$ category is economically viable. Unless you aren't confident that you would sell even 1000 units.

[@MrStingraybernard]

Funny I was just checking this out in an email from Apos this morning

[@scab6234]

It's a shame i can't get these pads for my original r70x without at least doubling the price for tax and shipping to eu

[@syanhc]

I wish Joshua would allow the validity of time and circumstance to exercise the right of everyone to deliberate justice.

[@fin_alinea]

I will not pass this one for sure as a AD2000X users for years.

[@GrainOnTheGo]

I can't even get it if I wanted as I'm out in Japan. Oh well.

[@BroSweets730]

Where’s the review of the aune s9c I saw in some videos? Not reviewing it becuz you have to tell everyone it’s better than topping gear? lol

[@jamesbittle9789]

AT made the pads deeper, but they still don't look tall enough for those of us with bigger ears. Round earpads are dumb.

[@depthnos9248]

Pre-ordered 🎉🥳🤑

[@fabianoberlim9636]

Hey Apos! Send this men a Topping DX9

[@tflp1950]

6:25 I can easily run my R70x from a lighting dongle

[@mhm35]

Really? How loud does it get? I ask because considering getting these but only have the lightning dongle and than the 3.5mm ports scattered about my PC setup

[@tflp1950]

@@mhm35 Just tested them out on the lighting dongle again as it had been a while. 18/20 songs I tested I played from 1-3 clicks down from max volume (from Tidal). The other 2 I needed max volume, and I would've probably turned it up one more "click" if I could, but it didn't feel like I was lacking volume at all, just my "ideal" volume (24yo ears). They obviously sound a bit better from my desktop DACs/AMPs but it's not a huge difference (tubes colour the sound a lot more of course). I'd still recommend getting a desktop dac/amp later down the line, the Ifi Zen Dac with the xbass would probably be my recommendation for the fun factor.

[@mhm35]

@@tflp1950 thank you! I'm heavily considering selling my Px8s to try open back but already worried about getting tangled up in cables lol. I have M50x that I used to have bluetooth adapter for but it's long been dead, and Fiio doesn't make replacements (that fit right on the cans).

[@dentboxhero1717]

Oh look an AT headphone on the channel only after 6 or so years and now already your favorite too lol

[@Alex-kx6kw]

creating these limited run products are so predatory for the consumer, will pass based off that alone

[@OzSteve]

I wish Apos shipped to Australia 😥

[@tflp1950]

I cant stand limited runs of products

[@KirillChufarov]

Be aware, these quite baseless.

[@christepoo.h7310]

Got mine in the first 5 minutes

[@ragecandy]

Just sell the pads lol

[@CosmicPotato]

Video dropped 48 seconds ago and only 1 view? Josh has really fallen off 😞

[@houssamalucad753]

He barely makes any videos on products normal people can buy. Not a surprise.

[@Curbs-tr1zx]

Because majority of what he reviews these days are out of the budget for most his audience.

[@JoshuaValour]

Or KZbin takes a second to catch on. Good to know ive fallen off though. No one told me 😢

[@soulfulfool]

@@houssamalucad753 guess Im not normal, thank God!

[@wagiqwq]

😂😭​@@JoshuaValour

[@SzymonSaysStuff]

If it’s limited fomo garbage, I don’t give a f.

[@hmst5420]

Watching this video with r70x on my head. I've never wore the lighter and more comfortable headphones

[@Alex-kx6kw]

creating these limited run products are so predatory for the consumer, will pass based off that alone