1 of the Scummiest Ways to Win a BJJ Match (IBJJF DQ Controversy)

[@zachayman8900]

Didn’t expect to see myself in a chewjitsu in 2024 but here we are (guy who flew from australia)

[@jasonscott2289]

On point overall. Great response. I think another aspect that really elevates how offensive this is, is that it happened at worlds. His opponent flew to Vegas from Australia then gets sent home immediately by a cheater. It's gross. No excuse for doing this at purple belt worlds. He should be banned for a year at least imo. The impact of his behavior is too big and for his opponent, expensive.

[@ronaldinho5860]

I think you should be banned for a year for your stupid speech about nothing comment.

[@skulls.n.guns.2357]

@@ronaldinho5860 Why are you crying so hard over a harmless comment? 🤣

[@ronaldinho5860]

@@skulls.n.guns.2357 Your comment is like who gives a shit

[@skulls.n.guns.2357]

@@ronaldinho5860 I don't see you replying to my previous taunt. Maybe you did, but your reply got auto-deleted for containing certain words. If your comment can't be found while logged out, then it can't be read by anyone. This will be the last time I tell you about your comments possibly getting removed.

[@ronaldinho5860]

@@skulls.n.guns.2357 Thanks I appreciate it True Romance was a great movie

[@cthulhu-jitsu7404]

For me personally, I think the bigger issue is that this actually has been addressed by the IBJJF. The Rules Specifically state that forcing someone into an illegal position is a severe faul and grounds for disqualification. The problem isn't the IBJJF rules, it is the IBJJF refs. I have been in several competitions where the refs made some seriously bad calls, and I mean things that even people who don't compete in the IBJJF know are wrong. I've seen people be awarded 4 points for a sweep, I have seen people win but their opponent gets theit hand raised,. I've seen people get awarded advantages for actions that are the literal example that the IBJJF gives in their own rulebok of when you would not give an advantage. The problem here is that none of these refs are going to have any downsides to making any of these bad calls. If there are no concequences, then the Refs can basically do whatever they want. This is the part that needs to change to solve this problem.

[@glxblt-sd1ze]

Have you ever tried to ref even a friendly match in your gym ? The amount of focus that is needed to enforce sometime dumb rules is massive. It's obvious that you could never be perfect

[@cthulhu-jitsu7404]

@glxblt-sd1ze I've reffed for tournaments, 8 hours long. And it doesn't have to be perfect. The example from Lachlan Giles is perfect here. They called out the mistake and even went to the videos to show the ref indeed made the wrong call. Problem is they didn't stop the progression of the bracket to wait and by the time it was cleared up, they had already sent the other guy to the next match, so it wouldn't be corrected anymore. THAT sort of thing should just not happen.

[@Skywalker96214]

Someone tried to strip my SLX in tournament but accidentally forced a reap. His coach screamed “he’s reaping” to the ref and I got a DQ. The guy genuinely looked confused why the match was stopped so I don’t blame him. His scummy coach, however, went home without honor that day.

[@boss133749]

I’ll add my two cents to this. B Team literally grew to notoriety by losing. But they train hard, they have a jovial culture, and they grow. Winning isn’t everything. The journey is what is remembered.

[@JamesIanGilliam]

Love the message, and love the 2 camera angles. On the second angle, I can see you want to get the bookshelf in there. Consider a wider lens, or getting the camera more in front of 'you' so that you are still the focus but the books are in the background. Currently the viewer is drawn towards the meeting of the 2 walls (or you and the shelf) which is the dead space behind you.

[@BarChordA]

I was thinking this same thing - he has no leading space in that shot, so he’s talking to the edge of the frame. I do like that he’s been using multi-angle cuts though - adds more depth.

[@richardgallagher4880]

"Sweep the leg. No mercy" Sensai kreese.

[@larslornothfloki5998]

Can you do a technique video breaking down the fake reap vs an actual reap in that position. I'm not fully understanding how reaping would be a DQ vs a fake reap. I train jits at a gym that primarily focuses on grappling for MMA. I spit out my tea when you mentioned MMA being a different world cause that's spot on. Appreciate the humor you add even in this video cause it keeps a nice balance.

[@mikeg8543]

It's not that complicated. Look up what a reap is on KZbin now imagine someone shoves your leg across their center line to that position (usually grabs the foot off the hip and pushes it across the thigh)

[@JungWeezyBabay]

I think that reaping dq rule enforces a bad habit. If you’re pulling the foot across for the reap dq, you might win in the competition, but doing that outside of the competition just puts you in a worse position

[@meatheadcanada]

Well said Mr Chewie! Happy New Year

[@spearce10]

Spot on vid as always bud

[@socialist-strong]

A great nuanced take. Good job!

[@martialartsvocationalschoo3319]

At the bottom of all of this is how our cultures see "winners" and "losers". Personally, I'd always chose a honerable, close, hard fought loss over an easy win. But most others won't. And never post anything when angry.

[@jefftmusic]

been training 10 years... still dont understand what it is about a reap that is so dangerous.

[@kivekkulat5114]

So from my side I’d say I don’t view heel hooks as overly dangerous but do support idea of lower belts not being able to do them to mitigate risk of inexperienced people hurting themselves. Once you ban heel hooks, to me the same logic applies to banning reaping the knee. I’ve seen several guys tweak their knees fighting incorrectly when their knee is in compromised position being reaped where opponent is not technically heel hooking them. To me I think banning reaping the knees is an imperfect but necessary part of rules if you ban heel hooks.

[@SpearheadTrainingSolutions]

Traditional Brazilians are so scared of the reap and it’s just rediculous

[@kungfupanda431]

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I think you should only comment things online that you would say to that person's face in real life.

[@Martial-Mat]

It's not the rules; it's the application of the rules. Gaming the system like that should carry a year long ban, then people would not attempt it except for the highest stakes. I've never never intentionally fought dishonourably in my life. I'd sooner lose and hold my head up.

[@jcpbd1776]

Every person competing is “gaming the system” because they’re gonna always take the most efficient path to victory even if it isn’t the most righteous and most exciting. The same way an NFL team will kneel the ball in the 4th QTR, or an NBA player will shoot into a defender to draw the foul. Trying to leave it to a refs discretion with intentionality will always slip ups so if we want a more concrete ruling then change the rules

[@BJJJUDO]

Love the message

[@schenksteven1]

In wrestling we award a penalty point for an illegal hold, that’s a simple solution to the problem. It matters, but it only rarely decides the outcome of the match. If you continue to grab illegal holds in a match you can be dq’d eventually. Wrestling also differentiates between grabbing an illegal hold (penalty point) and using the hold in an attempt to injure. (Automatic DQ)

[@RianG777]

Much respect Sensei, Osu!

[@richardgallagher4880]

"Its not about whether you win or lose its about the friends you make along the way" Chewjitsu From the winners podium😂😂

[@user-mi3fy5yh1q]

Yeah, that's like all those Black Belts that like to say, "It's not the belt that matters".... I call BS. I know they all slept in that belt after they got it, and they like to tell people they're BBs.

[@NN-qj4sk]

@@user-mi3fy5yh1q How do you know that?

[@veteransowhat5669]

Well they matter and they do not, as a business the belt color matters for live application the belt does not, what is the context of the question or statement?

[@tekal85]

But regarding the reaping rule: if I am the guy actively pushing the foot beyond the midline l, I get the dq?

[@MikeMoreLike6Billion]

Bragging that you coached against your own student, and to his defeat. Disgusting. You can be upset with your student and stop helping him if you want, but actively working against him (and for his opponent) is such a ridiculous, absurd betrayal. I’ve never even heard anything like that before. What if his opponent had gained an advantage over him thanks to your coaching and then ripped a vicious submission, causing a lifelong or chronic injury to your student? Straight up, unsubscribing. This dude has lost the plot if he thinks that was a good story and made him look good.

[@MikeMoreLike6Billion]

I normally read comments before I watch a video to get the vibe of the content, if it’s worth my time or not, and I just can’t believe that there is no active discussion about that little throwaway story of you flipping to coach the other side during a match. You have a duty as a mat-side coach to put your student in the best position possible. This isn’t soccer, people get seriously hurt in this game we play. I would leave your gym in a heartbeat if I ever even heard that you did this to one of my fellow students - and I pity anyone that goes in with you as their match coach without knowing and understanding you might flip and sabotage them. Unbelievable.

[@josephaubrey5752]

Over the last 5 years, I’ve trained several gyms, and I can tell you that several black belts have taught forcing the reap in a competition. This is not a new idea.

[@Kramsay91]

Thats embarrassing

[@CoachKevanKillsit]

I accidentally did this in my first ever comp match 😂 I was just trying to strip the foot off next thing I know I’m getting yelled at by the ref lol

[@greatone6196]

I have had someone in training force me to reap on complete accident doing the same thing lol

[@kwazadi138]

Change the rule! Instead of DQ, get the ref to stop the fight and untangle the legs, give a penalty and carry on.

[@frostytaco101]

podcast and video 😍

[@MannyC-w8r]

Personally, I don't like that style of play. But I grew up in the 90s, so let me give some old man wisdom. "Hate the game, not the player"

[@rstlr01]

Absolutely! Sucks for the other guy, but the outrage should be for the rule that allows such gamesmanship. Kind of like the grounded fighter rule the UFC has, many fighters have abused this with great effect to get the win.

[@darylmckay]

Wise words, Chewie 😊

[@chriswalkin4952]

Right on, very well said.

[@USALibertarian]

If you reap yourself YOU CAUSED the reap. Therefore YOU broke the rule. This simply just a referee education solution unless the rules are written stupidly.

[@noahpendergrass9744]

It should be done. It uncovers how stupid the rules are

[@blackiechanx7]

The reap charge is crazy 😂

[@maxanderson3733]

Bro, I didn’t even know this was a rule.

[@KazzArie]

Switching camera angles during your monologue reminds me of coach red pill. Ima call you Coach Chew Pill.

[@ItsPandatory]

I dont think we need a rule change here, forcing your opponent into a reap is already illegal. There were definitely some matches where it wasn't enforced properly but thats a different problem. If this happens in one of your matches ask the ref to have it reviewed and if that doesn't help go over to the head table and have them review it. They can change the result and put you back in the bracket as long as the next match hasn't run yet. I heard Lachlan's student's DQ was somehow held up under review, i'm going to ask about that at the next ref meeting I'm at. rule 6.2.3 D) When an athlete intentionally attempts to get his or her opponent disqualified by reacting in a way that places his or her opponent in an illegal position.

[@BigBWolf90]

Didn't know about the fake reap, i thought this would be about the fake pain from a "slam" when it's clearly something legal or an accident

[@oramac7237]

Wheaton's Law should be posted everywhere. It's so simple.

[@Bbookinn]

Just a typical case of ppl overreacting on the internet. The guy for sure fucked up and should not have done that and as you said, deserves to be called out for it. Ppl will take shit like this and literally send death threats to ppl online though.. like HUH? when was it ever that serious? 99.9% of these ppl would never say anything like that to these ppl's face but the internet makes ppl way to comfortable. As the saying goes, these types need to TOUCH GRASS

[@michaelcarter2767]

JJWL gonna take IBJJF off the map, comps are so much better, times don't change, free rash gaurd with sign up. You also get a free video of your match uploaded onto a public profile. It's dope

[@MJSilverfang]

I gave the video a thumbs up because of 4:50, lol

[@WakeUpUniverse66]

False Reap Accusations for real hahaha

[@jonahanderson2663]

Can someone explain this rule issue to me? So your opponent is going for a straight ankle and you do something to turn it into a heel hook and they get DQ’d?

[@richardgallagher4880]

No you put their leg right across yours instead of on your hip. This is band.

[@NN-qj4sk]

In single leg X, if you pass your outer leg over their centreline, it's considered reaping and is banned.

[@dyoder16]

So stupid. Dealing is not inherently dangerous. There is a knee reaped in a wrestling match every week. Where are all these injuries from it.

[@PP_Derrick]

What do you mean by, change the rule? Change to what?

[@chennertam1424]

The easy option is to allow reaping

[@asianfrenzy666]

false reap accusations, eh

[@thomasskrappy3250]

It's a fight that they turned into a sport. It might get messy

[@brian8861]

dont hate the player hate the game

[@H33t3Speaks]

Not the attitude you want to go into a SPORTING event with. Self-defense, sure. Sport, nah u a dickhead fr

[@808BJJ_Black_Belt]

Cheating reapers 💩👎🏻

[@kumai77]

Comments on internet should never, ever ever matter. As matter of facts ignore even mine right now if it helps understand how not important that should be.

[@rg2_029]

Reap charge 😂😂😂

[@uipize]

The rules are fine. Even the refs are fine. The system is just wrong. If you pay hundreds of dollars to enter there competition just to loose after 1 match like that, your money is wrong invested. There should be a video system for each mat (as far as i heard it was one system for multiple mats) und atleast 3 refs watching (one mat ref, one side ref and one video ref). Dont put all the pressure on one ref to see it all in real time after countless hours on the mat. Invest your money ibjjf! Also.. in a martial arts context.. all shame to the guys doing it. There is no excuse.

[@ericmckinney8704]

why dont they just allow knee reaps. Problem solved.

[@JungWeezyBabay]

Supposedly it’s “dangerous.” I think the IBJJF is still just scared of foot stuff. Leg locks were really looked down upon until fairly recent in BJJ history.

[@holden5478]

IBJJF says no

[@ItsPandatory]

Its legal at brown and black (adult no-gi) so this is only a purple or lower meme

[@johnnycaralta]

It's wild that people still care about IBJJF. Easily the worst ruleset in the sport.

[@bradlopez3681]

This rule is why I don't even bother with foot locks. Comps are too expansive to lose to some cheesy shit.

[@holden5478]

Footlocks are universally allowed everywhere now.

[@bradlopez3681]

@@holden5478 see the problem isnt the foot loc the problem is im afraid to go for one have someone move my leg into the reaping position and get dqed and I wasted my entree fee.

[@holden5478]

​@@bradlopez3681 oh gotcha! Geeze, you can tell I don't compete. lol

[@bradlopez3681]

@ 🤣 ok

[@veteransowhat5669]

The language is Portuguese.

[@richardgallagher4880]

@@veteransowhat5669 Que?

[@spearce10]

Football mate 😉

[@WakeUpUniverse66]

Nah dude its called Soccer. We don't live in Narnia

[@richardgallagher4880]

45 minutes? Jaffa cakes? Jumpers for goalposts? 😆

[@richardgallagher4880]

​@WakeUpUniverse66 Why you carry and throw the ball in american FOOTball bruuuuhh?😂

[@spearce10]

@@richardgallagher4880 oooh isn't it

[@richardgallagher4880]

@@spearce10 😂😂

[@themaster-jp6sp]

gaming the system. its legit. no beef with the guy. dont hate the player, hate the game

[@MrGabrucho]

Shaking a baby is a serious crime bro

[@user-mi3fy5yh1q]

You are going to have to repeat all that in Spanish for them to get the message.