1 VS 8? Just Crazy Enough For Me - Beyond All Reason 1v8 Deathmatch

An impressively close match I have to say
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[@starhaven1881]

"He has to many fighters get AA" "Bro this is your job" He says to the air player with a single eco vs the guy who has 8 ecos.

[@UnknownSquid]

People always have this bizarre notion that the mere existence of an air player on their team, means that player automatically always wins air, and that if the enemy air ever does any damage at all, then their own air player is clearly an awful player, rather than just having lost a close battle. Y'know, possibly because the enemy team had ground AA and it was enough to tip a key fighter engagement, or such.

[@sam3121513]

I thought the exact same thing, also not the first time get AA was mentioned :P

[@DuxAKADuke]

Welcome to the BAR community.

[@evilme73]

@@UnknownSquid yup... thats how I went to almost 40os with almost 80% winrate... just abusing air! people don't defend or understand the powerspikes at all

[@Kyrill-Franco-]

This match was certainly something. I was spectating it, until I was asked to join and fill the last slot for the 8 player team. At first I was spectical as zombean could keep up with the APM of 8 players, but was suprised for how quickly zombean swept the frontline (In the real game, everything felt faster and more rushed, as in spectating mode, on which you can see everything). I already felt like I shouldn't eco as much and bring our units early and it paid off. I had hounds and some anti air and was able to hold off some of the aggression. After my commander fell in front of my base, I started getting rezbots out to rez the commander. I think it wasn't rezzed when zombean attacked the last naval commander. So it was actually pretty close! They almost won :D I also liked all the insight you gave in your casting on zombeans side. There were quite some spectators that tried it afterwards too (Including strong players like Reetzweet) but Zombean got the closest in victory (At least for the time I spectated the matches) You should give it a try next stream :D I think quite many cheeky tactics could be used with 8 coms

[@joeschroedernz]

Only way to beat 1v8 is to turn it into 1v1.

[@F_Print]

Came for the thumbnail, stayed for the unusual action. Good fight from blue, playing alone with so many things to take care of requires a level of apm most people don't suspect. I didn't think he'd manage to get rid of so many oponents before falling.

[@DyingCr0w]

This was pretty awesome, definitely something that'd be awesome to see more often 😊Zombean really started showing signs of fatigue, he had this in the bag for a long time.

[@TheChrisNeuendorf]

Fun cast! You said it right at the end, more aggression and a quicker T2 transition and he would have taken it.

[@TheDeathlyG]

I really enjoyed this. It showcases the power of a "perfect" communism build. Effectively, the raw efficiency in being able to push 100% of your teams resources into projects gets them done way faster, allowing you to punish the effective "greed" of the other team (since they need more resources to each get their own labs, get their own infrastructure, and then begin making units). I think if Zombean had had a better plan going in, and *really* pushed that aggression early and mid, he would have won quite handily. The 8 have to overwhelm with splinter attacks, but the 1 has a big hammer the entire game. They just have to keep smashing bases, because as soon as they stop they will be overwhelmed.

[@TimoRutanen]

A 3 minute razorback could have been a rather terrible sight on the battlefield

[@TheDeathlyG]

@@TimoRutanen trueee! I think someone should genuinely test how fast you could get one out. Even just 2 marauders could be virtually unstoppable while you scale like mad.

[@sam3121513]

@@TheDeathlyG There was one of the players on the side of 1 that day who had t3 up in 11 minutes. Unfortunately for him he had no aa and got taken out by 2 air players

[@smarimc]

This is just "more stuff beats less stuff" in extreme: blue cleverly focused on taking down one base at a time with overwhelming force. But of course, all that came at the cost of not having enough APM to ecoscale. Sad.

[@BrightWorksTV]

You've put it perfectly. 8 players of force in one army is crazy powerful but it can't be everywhere at once!

[@AntoniGawlikowski]

Fairly beautiful - my new favourite insult :)

[@Demokrat11]

would love to play against you in a similar setting!!

[@zeelastman]

at 28:00 you can see him scout the exact path that you marked and he decided against going that way. I'm not sure why but just saying he did scout it and decided against that move.

[@Dagonius.]

Crazy!

[@Hotrancidgrease]

Damn, Zomb was pretty damn impressive.

[@Tim_van_de_Leur]

More Brightworks :D

[@anthonylewis5503]

You've drawn the ire of the hive mind

[@sneakycodfish2359]

Now you should cast the 1v8 chisato did on esker creek =)

[@tryingrealllyhardthere]

Nice thumbnail !

[@Qrzychu92]

this is my SupCom brain talking, but would a strategy of just selecting all the coms and marching forward be a good one? of course after they all build a factory and couple power gens

[@Kyrill-Franco-]

Would certainly look manacing as a frontliner seeing like 5 coms approch you :D But with the right units or static defences they can also be taken out relatively quickly and if they are too close, chain react with their explosion. But if this can be done very early and the frontliners only have light units out like the scouts of light infantry, this could work and maybe take out some bases, before they can be stopped

[@Stanis223]

I think early on you really need their build power to build the sum of 8 economies. If you advance with them and they are protecting a blob of medium tanks; probably good. It seems like it could work well to "hug" an enemy commander and self-D to take them out to prevent early d-guns. if they are however too close; 1 commander can chain the rest.

[@peachypietro9980]

The teamwork did NOT make the dream work XD

[@xreetzweetx730]

i tried this also but everyone was 20+ os including izaon and humblegar who chose to bomber rush me, made it almost impossible u have so many flanks to cover. the game for the 8 players is just to create as many distractions as possible, and the 1 player has to use his eco advantage to insane heights but i tell u it gets hard , maybe thats why in the past we have seen this whit like the 8 people all being under 20 os or something

[@sam3121513]

For the earlier games when queentod6 was hosting they did try to keep the players on the side of 8 under 20 OS

[@Buscandome89]

Apm stall is literally the name of the game here. Going into this with no plan also didn’t help

[@sharkinahat]

...spawning as the blue team... Wait, what...?

[@XSquibX]

So this was... Supreme Commander... 2? Missed what game this was lol

[@pcbona]

Could you create a match on a map that does not have mexes at all? So you would have to get all your metal from energy converters or reclaim the metal on the map. Every unit gets much more valuable this way, especially in the early game.

[@sam3121513]

you can actually do this on every map as you can turn mexes off in the game settings

[@majormajorasic]

It's a shame the AI didn't have setting to share metal and energy to 25% so they act more like early starting storage.

[@kroIya]

you can keep typing /take to take the remaining resources, but it's hard to remember that when you're apm taxed on 8 fronts

[@majormajorasic]

@@kroIya Yeah that's the case, would be nice if you could set it to be automatic or that it's the default setting of AI depending on difficulty.

[@aleserban947]

How can I take control of AI? /Cheat and /Godmode don’t work in multiplayer…

[@GenericCat]

/take command

[@and-for_GoD]

He could of have gone for t3 extremely early and win easily vs t1 and early t2.

[@geir-arneroos845]

Both Reetz and Jammy tried later, but vs better opponents. None of them won.

[@Stanis223]

Is it still communism if you rush t2 with all 8 of your commanders ?

[@user-qx7yw2cv7k]

If you want balance, play chess!

[@GenericCat]

🏛

[@LinkLaine]

first level player on a frontline 💀

[@TheGIGACapitalist]

5:15 "Most effective form of communism" But it's just one guy dictating everything and mismanaging the economy. 😂

[@BrightWorksTV]

LMFAO yeup

[@billyjimbobjr]

jeeezuz this was painful to watch, no mass reclaim bots for energy, no mass air cons for build power, no eco scale, no bot spam, shoulda been a 20 mn game