It takes a different breed of person to appreciate the Jaguar. Its literally one of my favorite consoles to play. Most people don't even realize this console even existed
@ps1746 Жыл бұрын
Your username fits nicely
@chuco915C Жыл бұрын
In middle school I swapped the jaguar for my sega cd for about a month I think. My homie had Kasumi ninja and iron soldier. I remember my initial thoughts was liking kasumi ninja and the controller was ass. To this day I still don’t know wtf those buttons were in the middle. A dial pad? Lol don’t remember.
@thecurmudgeon73504 ай бұрын
@@ps1746😂😂😂😂😂
@Sinn01003 ай бұрын
You know the content is good when you have people returning just to watch it again (and share it with friends). This is one of the best channels on KZbin. Question- I have never played Zero 6 before. It looks really interesting and I'm wondering how it actually works? It looks as if your ship is at a strange angle during a battle. How do you target a specific enemy and can you engage them in a more conventional manner? Like say, from chasing them from their 6?
@TheLairdsLair3 ай бұрын
You have complete 360 degree movement of the ship and can rotate it in any direction. It's at a strange angle because I am tilting to the side to shoot enemies and avoid getting hit.
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
Atari needed more well known characters in their IP stable. Having only simple arcade games to update really hurt the system when gamers were into deeper stuff than early 80s arcade games. It had hurt the lynx a lot that they lacked appealing IP but they never focused on their own mascot characters, sadly. Atari Karts only containing one Atari character (as they had no others) shows why they had such issues in a Mario and Sonic dominated world. Even the TG16 had Bonk. Something like Scrapyard Dog was a game that should have produced an Atari character IP but they just used a generic child as they had an arcade mindset not a console one. 😢
@TheLairdsLair3 ай бұрын
Totally, there were plans to make Bentley Bear their mascot on several occasions with new games planned for both the 7800 and Jaguar but on both occasions they came to nothing, a really bad move by Atari.
@chrisbampton52252 жыл бұрын
I recently got a Atari Jaguar with Alien vs Predator. I am having fun with the console so far
@TheLairdsLair2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club!
@astra67129 ай бұрын
I’m just here watching what might come to a Jaguar mini console in the future. Can dream. Doesn’t hurt anyone.
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
Will not be for years sadly with the power needed to emulate the Jaguar. I'd love one with the right controller. Same for Intellivision, which should certainly come now Atari own Intellivision.
@dreamcaster47543 жыл бұрын
Still one of my favourite consoles, thanks for giving it the respect it deserves!
@cooladee3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Jaguar exclusives are AvP, Missile Command 3D, Ultra Vortek, and Iron Soldier 2. I am not a big fan of Ruiner Pinball but I still enjoy it, not as much as Devil's Crush and Alien Crush.
@FantasyVisuals Жыл бұрын
Missile command and AVP , SuperBurnout rule on Jag. Sadly it's use of assembly language and nonwait RAM bugs ( RISC ) made it too difficult to develop for Oceans Apesh*t , looked amazing though , 32000 colours , parallax scrolling and a two player game , similar to double dragon or bubble bobble , it's unknown.
@thegardner80 Жыл бұрын
I still really enjoy “Attack of the Mutant Penguins.” It never seems to make these lists
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
I have to say I'm not a fan, I really wanted to love it but just couldn't get on with it.
@seany84uk3 жыл бұрын
I remember getting the jag out of littlewoods catalogue back in the day for £200 back in the day. When i found out there was a version of doom on the console i pestered my parents to get it and had many late night sessions on it. In my opinion it was close to the pc as possible on a console for the time.
@STR82DVD3 жыл бұрын
Great content lad. Glad to see someone cover this much ignored console.
@GrgakGames3 жыл бұрын
Great list! Super Burnout is an awesome game for the Jaguar! Other games I think are pretty good are Defender 2000, Club Drive, Atari Karts and I-War. Going into the system I thought it was going to be pretty bad considering the public opinion but now I have a huge soft spot for it. The Jaguar CD is also not the worst thing out there and out performs a lot of stuff back then, if you have the time (or money cause honestly its pretty expensive) i'd say give it a shot! Didn't entirely expect to enjoy Battlemorph as much as I did lol
@TheLairdsLair3 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to include both Atari Karts and I-War, especially the latter, but there wasn't the room sadly. I plan to do another series of these video called 10 More Amazing Exclusives because they have gone down really well and it means I can cover some more favourites of mine. Agreed on BattleMorph too, it's one of the best games of it's generation IMO and definitely my favourite CD game.
@sgtleehead Жыл бұрын
Power drive rally took the SNES game perfected it. Criminally underrated.
@ITGuyinaction3 жыл бұрын
👍 🍀 Pity that Jaguar didn't become more popular...
@bjbell522 жыл бұрын
Just a slight correction - Rayman was written for the Jaguar and ported to other systems.
@TheLairdsLair2 жыл бұрын
It actually started development on the ST, then moved to the SNES (where there is a prototype) and was then considered for Mega CD before finally being completed for the Jaguar. But yes, the Jag version came out first.
@retroventureuk3 жыл бұрын
great video, i love your passion for the Atari jaguar
@TheLairdsLair3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@SuperHyphyOne Жыл бұрын
Defender 2000 is another one that doesn't get much love anywhere. There are three modes of play including classic Defender mode which plays great.
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
The Defender Plus mode is the best IMO
@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works25 ай бұрын
Appreciate you having sent me the link to this. Gotta say, I was quite [pleasantly] surprised by the some of these titles. I would love to have seen the console really pushed, like megadrive or ps1 towards the end of their life cycles. It's a great shame that it didn't get the support of some of the major publishers too. I wonder what some of the street fighters or mid 90's coin-ops would have looked like if someone threw real time and money at the conversions. It really needed a true killer app too, like its mario64 or metal gear solid. But don't they all, I guess. Still, I'd love fsomeone to give it a 'paprium' or something - a modern day killer app on a retro console - now how cool would that be...?
@EugenioAngueira3 жыл бұрын
This is a great group of games for the system.
@retropalooza Жыл бұрын
I swear the do the math commercials teacher is a man
@pitmatix14573 жыл бұрын
Coverage of the Jag was very unfair and, like you say, ignores the many great versions of 16-bit titles that perform really well compared to the other systems of the time.
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
The sound on Ruiner pinball would drive me crazy. Looks unplayable due to to the awful sound design. All screaming high pitch noises 😨
@TheLairdsLair3 ай бұрын
Nah, it's awesome. Also depends which table you play, as the sounds are totally different on each one.
@dragokills69903 жыл бұрын
Holy f**k what an awesome video - great choices too!
@PhilipMarcYT11 ай бұрын
Super Burnout is better looking than Super Hang On, but SHO is still way more fun to play. SB is just a bit average.
@TheLairdsLair11 ай бұрын
I disagree, especially as Super Hang-on isn't two-player.
@nbttl19752 жыл бұрын
I love the Jaguar!
@ElConradoX Жыл бұрын
The Jaguar is 64bit in the same way the Turbografx16 was 16bit. ...in that it wasn't.
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
Tell me you know nothing about the Jaguar architecture without telling me you know nothing about the Jaguar architecture.
@ElConradoX Жыл бұрын
@@TheLairdsLair You just did. ...you did a whole video about it, Mr. High and Mighty. You fall for the same trappings Atari tried to spin back in the 90s. A 64bit memory buss, renderer and a blitter do not a 64bit system make, specially when 99% of the time the code runs on 32 bit instructions on it's main CPU. In the end it's a game of semantics, the exact same one NEC used with the PC engine (and similar architectural paradigm), with an identical result. So yeah, I can perfectly state the Jaguar was not a "real" 64bit machine, based on it's architecture, regardless of what YOU would like people to believe. It's a perfectly valid position that many developers even held at the time and ultimately killed the console by creating unrealistic expectations of it's performance. But more importantly: Way to take an opportunity to make a positive impact for you and your channel by engaging in conversation with someone with a different position than you and instead flush it in the toilet like an asshole. If this is how you respond to a milk toast comment like mine, I can't imagine your reaction to an actual, factual disassembly of your opinion. Good job.👌
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
Ignoring the facts for the moment, like the Jaguar having a 64-bit blitter, 64-bit object processor, 64-bit data bus and 64-bit memory, I can look at the many interviews I have done with people who worked on Jaguar games over the years and when asked every single one of them said the Jaguar was 64-bit. I'd believe their word over yours, regardless of my own opinion. If you want a source as an example, I recommend Retro Gamer magazine issue 189. So no, I haven't fallen for any stupid trappings, I merely looked at the evidence to form a conclusion like any intelligent person does. And it's a bit rich to moan about me making that kind of reply when you made a stupid glib comment like that in the first place. As the saying goes ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. Had your original comment been one of reasoning and intelligent discussion with a wish to debate the matter, then you would have got a very different answer. So call me names if you like, you know somebody has lost an argument the moment they bring out the insults, you only have yourself to blame.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
Tell that to the TG16 coders who had to pair their two 8bit writes to the VDP to match the 16 bit architecture. Or all that 16px bitplane madness. Though on the other hand I don't get why the Turbografx16 could not interleave its two 8 bit SRAM chips which it uses for video. I mean, it already runs at 7 MHz, so I know that I have no right to wish for it, but I think that all home computers use a 15 MHz XTal from TV . So for straight read operation ( which is the usual stuff on a sprite based console ), from SRAM directly to the VDP ( no bus, or arbitration ), 15 M bytes per second should be possible. But then again, you would only save 8 pins and in 1987 those were cheap. Though it would be fun if the TG16 would load sprite positions from one bank and then use a separate circuit which runs on the opposite phase to load the bitmaps. The same for the background: Tilemap and bitmaps. With 32 bit memory on two banks the Jaguar could do the same. But in 1993 was the dawn of 3d. And for flat and Gouraud shaded 3d with z-buffer there is not much use for the other bank. Yeah, maybe have a little less problems with alignment, but to really gain an advantage from this, the Jaguar would need more circuitry to speed up then NewLine process.
@ElConradoX Жыл бұрын
@@TheLairdsLair Thanks for reinforcing my point. Your initial reaction to something so iniquous and tame was to treat it as an insult, and responded as a child would, with a tantrum. I never insulted you or said anything disrespectful to you. I just challenged your claim of fact. That, apparently, crosses a line for you. I don't know, but that feels a bit like insecurity. That is not how adult people are expected to respond. Again, I can't imagine your reaction to someone actualy pointing out your specific mistakes and leaps in logic. And having a second opportunity to patch things up and show growth, you double down. Great job there. You need to grow up. As for "every one I asked agrees with me" you know that's not true. There's always the asterisk. You're not the only person that knows Jaguar developers, and you know there's plenty of disputing opinions. Jag's 32/64 hybrid. You lean on the 64 bit side if you want, doesn't change what the system really was.
@neilthomas60422 жыл бұрын
I owned a Jaguar but only one of the games: Iron Soldier, which I never played.
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
How rich must you be as a kid to own a system and games you never even try? I had 360 and ps3 games I never played as i had money and the games were a slog to play with all the updates but I can't imagine never trying a game as a kid!
@cessnaace2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a top 10 aftermarket games list for the Jaguar, including homebrews and ports. We're now getting so many every year that you could do an updated list every year.
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
Interesting. I can't emulate the Jag so would be interested in those videos.
@Sweetestsadist3 жыл бұрын
Hee-hee "jag-you-are"... Makes me giggle every time.
@TheLairdsLair3 жыл бұрын
Never come to England then, you won't be able to stop laughing, because we pronounce all English words properly! :P
@Sweetestsadist3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLairdsLair Fair enough. Can you say "Zebra" in the next video?
@TheLairdsLair3 жыл бұрын
I'll see what I can do! I do say ZX Spectrum in quite a few, you'll enjoy that! :P
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
The American pronunciation always sounds so, so wrong to us. Jag-why-are, your pronunciation is totally different to how the word is spelled, like so many American words!
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
How is a U pronounced as a Y? American illiteracy makes me 😂
@SteveMacSticky Жыл бұрын
The software devs didn't bother to program for it properly
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
With such a limited market we never saw the games develop beyond the poor first wave - all systems initial games are poor as the Devs get used to a system. Just look at early v late PS3, 1, 2 for example. Even the initial wave of Game Boy and Spectrum games are very different to later ones. The Jaguar never got beyond that point of devs' first efforts.
@saturnman91292 жыл бұрын
Such a pity that the Jag failed so badly. Still enjoy it.
@arostwocents3 ай бұрын
Hard to emulate so I'm glad it wasn't successful. 😂
@Sinn0100 Жыл бұрын
I remember the red headed ladies voice from the commercial at the beginning and it doesn't sound right. Her voice was a much higher pitch or far more female sounding. I'm wondering if that's a PAL 50Hz thing? "Jaguar, Jaguar, Jaguar!"
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
The advert was never shown in the UK, that's the real version.
@EDifyer8812 жыл бұрын
the jaguar isn't better than the 3do but heck it is underrated like the 3do and it's better than the 32x and definitely the Phillips cdi
@TheLairdsLair2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Jaguar personally.
@FantasyVisuals Жыл бұрын
On paper the Jag looks seven times more powerful than the 3DO. However , compare Battlemorph with Starfighter on the 3DO
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
@@FantasyVisuals On Paper: 3do: Dedicated VRAM, CEL engine which draws complete quads Jag: Unified RAM, blitter which can only draw spans (slowly) or 2d (fast) Paper clearly states that Jag should be better for 2d, while 3do should be better for 3d. Look at Rayman and tell me that it is limited.
@goofydufusСағат бұрын
It's aggravating hearing people jump on the anti-Jaguar hate-wagon. There are at least 15 good games for the system, and I prefer some games even more than Alien Vs. Predator or Tempest 2000.
@AFourEyedGeek Жыл бұрын
I have a Jaguar, I love the console as a novelty but it was rubbish then for games and it is rubbish now. But how do you know if something is good or not, compare it to its competitors. I've selected a few games from some of its competition from each year the Jaguar could be considered somewhat relevant, but its low sales means it was never relevant. How does the Jaguar games you've listed here as its top ten stack up to these? 1994: Donkey Kong Country, Super Metroid, Sonic the Hedgehog 3, FIFA 95, Doom 2. 1995: Chronic Trigger, Yoshi's Island, Comix Zone, Alien Soldier, Destruction Derby, Tekken 2, Virtua Cop 2, Panzer Dragoon. 1996: Harvest Moon, Super Mario RPG, Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Tomb Raider, Crash Bandicoot, Die Hard Arcade, Powerslave. 1997: GoldenEye 007, Blast Corps, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, Oddworld Abe's Oddysee, Final Fantasy 7.
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
Well, firstly it's completely subjective, secondly the Jaguar was discontinued in early 1996 and thirdly the vast majority of the games on that list aren't system exclusives, the ones here are, so its comparing apples and oranges really. But if I look at your 1995 and 1996 lists, I enjoyed roughly half of those, the rest I didn't particularly like, so that kinda proves my first point really.
@AFourEyedGeek Жыл бұрын
@@TheLairdsLair Of course it is subjective, I love these kind of videos and discussions too. I just feel its abysmal sales (150,000), limited number of official games (50), older developers have complained how hard it was to develop for, it has a poorly thought of 3 (5) action button controller (after SNES controller too), lower critics scores for its games (compared to competition), that retro gamers don't really talk about their games except Aliens vs. Predator or Tempest 2000, kinda makes it objectively bad too. I mean, Atari went bankrupt on it. In 1993/4 you'd have been better picking off a SNES or a Mega Drive, or even a 3DO over the Atari Jaguar. Come 1995, it would be behind the PlayStation and Sega Saturn as well, in 1996 there was the N64. The majority of the games you showed also run at really low frame rates, hard to play now when you had smooth games on older consoles and on the next wave of consoles. I was a PC boy at the time, I didn't compare the Jaguar against the PC either, really hard against the Jaguar with its library of games.
@thecurmudgeon73504 ай бұрын
@@AFourEyedGeekJaguar has like 5-10 games worth checking out and playing...but I'm not paying $400 for a console, plus another $180-200 for a Game drive flash cart and more money for a RGB/HD adaptor.
@att2075 Жыл бұрын
Never in my life did I think I'd see "Atari Jaguar" and "amazing" used synonymously
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
You must have led a very sheltered life then!
@alienmaster23252 жыл бұрын
Greatest console in my opinion
@thecurmudgeon73504 ай бұрын
Greatest short lived failed console is the Sega Dreamcast.
@sammymcfone8281 Жыл бұрын
Not 64bit. Only true 64 bit component is downgraded to 32bit in home console. The data bus iirc. Arcade did maintain 64 bit component though.
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
You remember wrongly. The data bus, blitter, object processor and memory controller are all 64-bit - so of the 5 processors inside the Jaguar two of then are 64-bit. Therefore it offers 64-bit processing and is unquestionably 64-bit.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
The GPU is a 64 bit bus master. StoreP and LoadP are real. But you can only do it once and then have to do some boilerplate inside the GPU to convert to 32 bit. P means Phrase and sadly not Pair of 32 bit registers.
@tical23993 жыл бұрын
I had a Jaguar, and bought one at launch and i can say it was trash.
@TheLairdsLair3 жыл бұрын
So did I and I can say it's not.
@euphoriaentertainmentcompa2605 Жыл бұрын
Tempest 2000
@TheLairdsLair Жыл бұрын
Not an exclusive, ported to several other systems.
@Krunkwizard3 жыл бұрын
Is it me or do these games just have God awful sound effects and music? I've yet to hear anyone say "man this game on the Jaguar had thr best music!"
@TheLairdsLair3 жыл бұрын
It's just you. Most of these games have fantastic music and sound effects.
@bubbythebear68912 жыл бұрын
Listen to Atari Karts or Tempest 2000. Great stuff!
@mnkydeth81892 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure... But I think these may have been played on an emulator. A lot of the games with the echo or stutter... Are not like that on an original console.
@TheLairdsLair2 жыл бұрын
Emulation does make it sound worse, as it's not perfect, but the Jaguar still has fantastic sound capabilities.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
@@TheLairdsLair The Jaguar has a fixed playback rate of 48kHz @ 16bit. This is a perfect match for like every Windows Sound Card I have ever seen. How can there be a problem with sound? I think that 48kHz are especially also allowed in audio codecs to mark non-DRM contents, while DRM contents is re-sampled to 44 kHz .