10 Best Two Seat Airplanes

[@rickknorr9424]

This doesn't say "Light Sport", just 2 place. One of the best 2 place LSA's is the Sling 2. Flew one from Mt. Vernon, Ill. (KMVN) to Torrance, Ca. (KTOA-home airport) and had nothing but fun and good performance. Flew them consistently for about 4 years. No more flying due to medical complications....

[@blaster-zy7xx]

The beginning of the video says: Most efficient light sport airplanes" and some of these are not light sport planes.

[@dh-flies]

Dwayne's Aviation 17.1K subscribers Light-sport Aircraft are simply great, and they can be flown with a sport license, rather than private pilot certificate, which takes about half the time and price to earn, and that helps to open the world of aviation to a larger class of enthusiasts.... Any questions? This is in the description. and half of these planes are NOT SLA's. At least not in the USA.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

@@dh-flies That's how I got in. I flew on a light sport licence for about 4 years before going on to get my private. I'm now flying again under light sport just became it is cheaper.

[@dh-flies]

@@blaster-zy7xx I'm on Light Sport because of medical issues. I'm fine...But our wonderful Government, FAA thinks they know more about my condition than myself and my doctor. Typical Government. We seriously need to reclaim our country from these dopes.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

@@dh-flies I share in the frustration of regulations and bureaucracies. But it still beats the alternative of the wild west. I would like to see the medical requirement for private pilots relaxed for ... PRIVATE pilots, but understand the need for them in commercial applications. Not sure of the prudent outcome of "reclaim our country." Jan 6th is an example of that kind of idea taken to a very counterproductive extreme end. I much more respect the approach of thee EAA to work WITH government to change the rules as opposed to the NRA who are in constant political fighting mode.

[@adityanagpal3759]

1:40 Already have this place but so satisfying to watch I have share this video with my friends as they are looking for 2 seater aircraft

[@jetjock12]

Icon A5 range 1400 miles??? NOT true and nowhere close to the manufacturers stated specs. Many errors in this vid.

[@johnm.3279]

Yeah, that one leapt out at me too when he said that. The Icon website lists range at 427nm (45 min reserve).

[@alexdarcydestsimon3767]

@@johnm.3279 which is not that bad.

[@NovemberMoore]

421 nautical miles = 484.478 miles

[@Diosesdepapel]

Great video , great Information Tks for sharing..!!

[@In20xx]

This video helped with my research. Thanks for making!

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Excellent stuff bro

[@shanekeat7473]

I'm 95kg and my mates and my wife are about the same, most of the planes i find only carry 220kg because they are 380kg. I really want something with 270kg to 300kg useful load and 100-120 knots, but its proving a challenge to find it, most of these videos don't talk about useful load which is frustrating and as i dont know many brands its hard to research.

[@MultiGrumman]

Забавные двухместные малыши!:))... Спасибо за обзор:)...

[@ar15gator]

Great video, Helps quite a bit for my search of my 1st LSA, Thx!

[@alexeyyakovlev7022]

ALSO tested bristell - comfortable , but cruise speed only 220 km/h , but on rotax 912 which eat not too much fuel

[@AerodreamsLda]

You forgot all about the best of the best… Shark aero!!!

[@ediflash6955]

JMB EVOLUTION VL3 is beautiful, I like it 😎👍

[@alancornwell5559]

Look at the Viper SD4.

[@rjayamanna]

The VL3 and Bristell you showed were both fitted with the Rotax 915is engines, so your description was incorrect. Also, the Bristell you showed was not a B23 - so, wrong again.

[@BanjoManVR]

The vl3 has a Rotax 915 if I’m not mistaken because I fly it. and while you were doing a walk around of the Bristol b23 you said it has a rotax 912 even though it says it has a 915 on the aircraft. I was just wondering if the engine you said was correct.

[@BanjoManVR]

Next time you could add that the engine choices on the vl3 and the Bristol b23 are optional and you can get a 915 if you want in them

[@benthurber5363]

Struts mean you can make a wing spar thinner and lighter for a given weight. Thinner wings and lighter weight means less drag to offset the drag from the struts. Optimized, you can probably outperform cantilevers below a certain transonic threshold. Though struts do present ergonomic and ground-handling issues.

[@kjelle5350]

Composite materials makes struts obsolete

[@robertpitchford1786]

May I add the Arion Lighting LS-1 to this list? Fast, nimble and American made!

[@InterestingStuffAdventures]

I agree, Lightning is the way!

[@blaster-zy7xx]

I've flown several of these aircraft. What is missing in this list is a good metal, high wing, all around Plane like a Technam Eaglet. High wings are better for people with mobility issues, (like taking your mom on a ride) and sight seeing. (Low wings prevent a good sight seeing) and metal if you don't have a hangar.

[@nuvolikgiuseppefailla9976]

I totally agree but I love low wing planes too 😉

[@blaster-zy7xx]

@@nuvolikgiuseppefailla9976 So do I, when I'm flying alone for my own jollys, I can turn tight and see where I'm turning into and I think they are cooler looking. But I can't take my parents in the low wing that I fly. We can't see down below, and in Florida, a bubble canopy can get pretty warm and it is harder to taxi with the door (canopy) partially open on warm days. Given that I now have real world experience in both types of aircraft, if I were to put down my own money to purchase an overall useful plane for myself, I would opt for a high wing just for the real world practicality. The only thing that is a bit goofy with the high wing is seeing where you turn into and fueling it up.

[@jonasbaine3538]

@@blaster-zy7xx yep. When I first got interested in flying I wanted only low wings but now im getting license for practically of taken family trips up down east coast monthly so high wing with 2 doors is more practical

[@thisismagacountry1318]

The Sling High Wing looks interesting for a 4 seater, but the Pipistrel Virus SW is more in line with my needs.

[@instagram_official]

My mom doesn't ride a light plane because she's afraid lol🤣🤣

[@majormike1688]

The videos of the Super STOL and the Pipistrel have their texts mixed up.

[@chantereaudominique8855]

The best is RV8, but a lot of work to build, and not easy to find as a second hand .

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

Most efficient 2 seat airplane, even 45 years since it's mid-1970s introduction, is probably the Rutan Aircraft Factory (later Scaled Composites) Long-EZ. It holds several records for achieving over 40 MPG on longer flights with a full standard load in it - better than a lot of cars - but cruises at around 145 MPH (I think, might have been 145 knots). With a special rear-seat fuel tank added, one of these has flown for over 4800 miles as a class record (at a little over 35 MPG due to the heavier-than-normal loading for most of that flight), but the NORMAL configuration is limited to more like 2000 (on 52 gallons of fuel tank). It's POSSIBLE there is a 2 seat version of the Quicky (also a Rutan design) that might be even more efficient though. Yeah, they're kit planes - but so are several other aircraft on this list.

[@Daytonaman675]

Kit isn’t in production any more

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

I would guess a Stemme is a lot more efficient

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

@@DumbledoreMcCracken Does a Stemme carry 2 people? It might be more efficient - but one would expect 40+ YEARS of technological advancement to make something better. I also can't find ANY specs on it's efficiency for any of the models the list on their web site. *AND* it's quite a bit slower - seems to be about 140 knots MAX which is very close to the efficient CRUISE speed for the Long-EZ - though it does use a smaller, less powerful engine. It does NOT have the range of the Long-EZ though, even for a stock Long-EZ, per it's specifications.

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

@@bricefleckenstein9666 you mentioned EFFICIENCY. On a first principles basis, Stemme is a 2 place airplane that I would believe is more efficient than any Vari*, and runs at a reasonable speed. If you want to *_change_* your argument to RANGE, then I doubt that a Vari* can thermal in average conditions. So Stemme most likely wins there too. If you want to *_change_* your argument to SPEED, then I doubt that a Vari* is able to match the most efficient speed/joules-per-second (or meters/joule) of a Lancair Legacy (but I can't be sure without some research and analysis). So, apparently, you change your argument to ensure you "WIN!". That isn't what I call winning, that is what I call not winning.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

@@DumbledoreMcCracken And I SAID "it might be more efficient" - but don't know the design, and what I could find on the web about it didn't mention ANYTHING about efficiency, and made it look like it was still in prototype state. Show me numbers to compare to, not total lack of any information about fuel burn at any specific speed. DO read my entire comment, and quit cherry-picking and quit trying to say I was "changing" my argument when I did not in fact do so but in FACT brought up additional points to consider. What the heck do you mean by "thermal"? If you mean a Long-EZ won't fly when it's hot, do keep in mind that Rutan is based out of Mohave - one of the HOTTER places on earth - and has never had any issues with the heat there. And if you look at my ENTIRE original comment, I did state "probably".

[@justinkimble4654]

Good Prices lot cheaper than I expected 💯.

[@lucamarino8961]

You forgot to mention TECNAM (IT)... excellent airplanes!

[@ssn608]

captions for Pipistrel and Just aircraft are swapped. And the Pipistrel Virus SW (35 ft wingspan, 162 knot vne) is a different aircraft than the Pipistrel Virus (42 ft wing span, 122 knot vne)

[@jamesbarrick3403]

I'm no expert in GA. But it appears to me that many of the best designs are now pushers. But the overwhelming majority of GA planes are front engine with prop. Do we see a change over the next decade? or is there some fallacy with pushers I'm not aware of?

[@jirisejnoha3828]

What about Dynamic WT9?

[@destroyerinazuma96]

Is it possible to make a living flying those for taxi purposes and/or package delivery?

[@nuvolikgiuseppefailla9976]

Good selection, except for the lack of Tecnam airplanes in your list.

[@kashsantos12]

You forgot the Gillette Saker-1 S1 supersonic twin seater. 1600 miles range and it can do Mach 1.1 at 45,000 feet. only costs 5 million.

[@jimydoolittle3129]

The best in the list ,the RV 8 💪✈️ The others because of the rotax Engine and the price , no way ,

[@kirkjones9639]

What is the beef, with the Rotax engines?

[@jimydoolittle3129]

@@kirkjones9639 💥 in 23 000 + hours flying with several engines , I’ve had two engine failures 😖 ...... yes in a rotax , different occasions and displacement ,

[@lorettahill8058]

What is that background song ? Nice lil' jazz tune ....

[@ajaybajaj9596]

Any Latest LSA with Traditional Yoke all all come with Stick

[@procteamhouse3541]

Interesting video

[@NastyJim]

BRAND NEW!

[@ZoliSmiesko7845]

Where are Dynamic,Shark and Stream? 😪🙋🏻‍♂️🇸🇰

[@ignaciosantamarta8833]

Dornier 328, cruising 335 knts?

[@markg1531]

Sorry about such a mundane question, but I know very little about the subject. I’m curious about going to the bathroom in those planes. Some of them I have quite a long range and that means spending many hours without going to the bathroom. How do you deal with that question?

[@johnfaragher3959]

bring an empty soda bottle

[@markg1531]

@@johnfaragher3959 I see, thanks.

[@BenSieweke]

Where is the Sling 2?

[@Musiqa21]

Hello men i am from the land of origin #Ethiopia i wont some help from you i start make light aircraft use 100 HP yamha boot moter bu i cant gate propeller if you have a way how i can buy from please leave website or some thing reply please men

[@alexdarcydestsimon3767]

Subtitles for Virus and Just Aircraft are interchanged in French. + As usual, all is in miles only, just like USA still is a suburb of GB.

[@cakirismail78]

Which is the cheapest plane?

[@Searey07]

The Icon does not have a constant speed prop.

[@DanFrederiksen]

Risen leaves them all in the dust. Apparently there is a 915 version as well but not listed on their confused two websites. It just amazes me how companies can be that absentminded. They have one job. Something as exciting as a 915 version should be promoted everywhere. When it's the best plane especially so. Aviation feels dead in a sense. To me it seems obvious that you bring your great product to all the aviation youtubers to get exposure. Awareness is more than half the battle.

[@tjarsun]

I wish there were more V tails. It's such a sexy design but has a bad rep after people got spooked by the Bonanza.

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@tjarsun I agree it looks good but I think there is an inherent trim problem with v tails. To trim the pitch you must create undue drag in the pinch because the planes aren't aligned for it. It might be negligible though.

[@matthewmitchell8941]

The failure of manufacturers to adequately and effectively market their products is a masters business school thesis waiting to be written. It is an existing, known product, with a matured market, yet it is going through a renaissance, having been almost eradicated by litigation in the 70's-80's. The "knowledge" is highly technical, and there is a significant barrier to entry (Licensing and flight training.) There is virtually zero broad-approach marketing, in contrast to ads for aircraft aimed at families in the fifties and sixties, in publications like Life, Look, Field and Stream, etc. Now, ads are in...Aircraft enthusiast publications! That is not how a business expands, it is how it lingers and eventually petrifies. The growth, and most of the "excitement" is coming from Eastern European, Brazilian, and small "Kitplane" manufacturers, that do not have the marketing budgets or expertise of the previously mentioned, ossified, legacy manufacturers such as Cessna, Beech, Piper, etc. But, I'm a homebuilder, so, what do I know?

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@matthewmitchell8941 sure you could advertise beyond plane enthusiasts but at least inform the converted. And if you connect with the airplane youtubers you reach way beyond current airplane owners. So you just have to be visible in GA for it to work now. And Sea avio is out to lunch despite having the best plane by far.

[@MonicaHolly143]

Still suprised that v tail can go 2000 miles

[@LambdaJack]

Famous last words.

[@antonioiozzi9171]

RV8 is NOT in the LSA category. No reason to list it here.

[@alanploetz7100]

Did he say LSA or "most efficient 2 seaters" and you assumed a additional category? I see the confusion. Both 2 seaters (title) and LSA (text) are used. But there are a few on the list that are faster than the LSA top cruise speed.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

6:00 Yet another updated Storch. Amazing how many recent variations that World War II era aircraft has engendered.

[@ulihanel7078]

Bristell uses the Rotax 915..dude look at the cowl...

[@suzukirider9030]

The DA-20 does NOT cruise at 159 mph (138kt). More like 125mph (110kt). That's DA-40 numbers - a twice more expensive aircraft. Is the speed given for all the other ones similarly inflated? :-|

[@carlmeyer6242]

The Sling 2/Sling 4 or Sling LSA should be on this list. Fantastic aircraft for the price. The founders of Sling have flown them around the world multiple times. Super range and reliability.

[@LukaT]

Two more amazing 2-seater aircraft: - Czech Sport Cruiser - TL Stream

[@masondegaulle5731]

dude just parked that super STOL in a carpark spot...

[@philipgardner-uz5ne]

Fdalco f8l?

[@superliegebeest544]

But u need a pilot licence?

[@god-manmeherbaba8576]

❤❤💖💖💕💕

[@vladimirfekec4519]

And where are Dynamic WT9 or Shark ???

[@speedomars]

The JMB Evolution VL3 is not a light sport. It has retractable gear (light sport is restricted to FIXED GEAR, ALL OF THEM), and light sport is restricted to 120kts MAX cruise. The ICON is also not technically a light sport...it is a heavier (given a silly exception for increased gross weight) because it has a proprietary anti-spin system that weighs a lot. And it's sea plane. And it costs north of $300k. The Bristell is a nice plane, and its mid priced...but its no different than other low wing SLSA in the segment like the SLING. Btw. NO SLSA CAN CARRY WEIGHT MORE THAN 1300lbs max. The useful for all such aircraft is very small... You admitted it, the RV8 is NOT a light sport, it has a retractable nose gear and its too fast and its a kit. The Risen is also NOT A LIGHT SPORT. It has retractable gear and exceeds speeds and weight for the class. The Just Superstol is VERY COSTLY in its niche as well. The better deal is the RANS S21 SLSA...which can take on the Just and is MUCH cheaper. AND its factory built, unlike the Just. The Diamond DA20 IS NOT A LIGHT SPORT. It is too fast and weighs too much and it also costs nearly $300k. The best two seat planes are SLSA...they cost between $100 to $200k and often come with a chute like the Flight Design and Pipistrel.

[@Dwaynesaviation]

LSA rules in America don't apply to all parts of the world.... Especially Europe.... Also, this video is about both light sport and two seat airplanes, as the title and thumbnail suggests

[@speedomars]

@@Dwaynesaviation Europe has slightly different rules for SLSA...the USA has their own and they are being revised by the FAA. this video is about the best 2-seat airplanes. .but just having two seats isnt much of a comparison when the planes in the video are all WAY over $200k and the top prices for any LSA plane. In general. the two seat LSA was created to make aviation more affordable. It failed in many respects, but there really is no way to justify an aircraft that costs $350k plus with only two seats. Esp if they have retractable gear which also cost a lot more to maintain and to insure. The Diamond DA20 for example is a TRAINER. so two seats makes sense, but it is pricey compared to LSA and is not a good plane for general use like a more affordable LSA is.

[@gbigsangle3044]

@@failingtheturingtest4381 Wrong. The RV8 has a retractable nose gear. Vans also makes a factory built SLSA (using their own kit). Sport Pilots can fly piston single that has a max gross of 1300lbs, no faster than 120kt (at sea level), fixed props (can be ground adjustable). Factory built SLSA are only different from kit LSA in regard to who builds it.

[@gbigsangle3044]

@@failingtheturingtest4381 You may be right about the mod. Here is a video of it in action. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ-6qJWPjZepp68

[@MadX8]

Just so you know, the VL3 is considered as a "ULM" in France, which is the equivalent of Light sport. Retractable gear doesn't matter here.

[@rolandibarnes8859]

VL3 is great!

[@SanaVitaYT]

A5 overhyped..380k not including a 35 grand demo flight: The Searey and Super Petrel are better options

[@oscarobierefu9660]

JMB Evolution

[@AndreBSaba]

where`s Super Petrel, the best one

[@raptor4239]

I like how all these aircraft are in the 6 figures yet he says they are affordable LMFAO!

[@jakubfridrich8415]

And where is the Alto 912 TG? 😄

[@captainbuck5969]

Why pay 230,000 for a machine with 35,000 worth of materials???

[@Yardman_876]

Good point

[@stupitdog9686]

What do you belive - the spoken version or the writing - there is sometimes considerable difference!

[@Dwaynesaviation]

What do you mean? I don't understand please

[@stupitdog9686]

@@Dwaynesaviation The spoken commentary is not the same as the written commentary on the bottom of the screen in many instances, especially in the penultimate aircraft.

[@apocalips8008]

'We make the best educational aviation videos you've ever seen'.... NOT..

[@zackriden79]

so you can't have constant speed prop retracts or go 160 mph while being a light sprot i dont understand the point of the video ?????????????????????????

[@johnanderson1245]

Whenever one of these aviation channels lists airspeed in mph they lose me.

[@tonylam9548]

As soon as you mention Rotax or a regular engine like Lycosaurus, I already know the aircraft is unaffordable for many. There is a reason why the light sport program failed to attain the low cost goals Only the most in touch aviation writers will be fully aware of this. Rotax is a big company, lots of overhead and share holders to pay for. Not only is the engines expensive, but it is slow in tech advance and low powered. The first models still use carbs. So they created a market for companies like edge Performance , but they too are not cheap.

[@MrTurbogreg6969]

Someone needs to tell this dude that 160 mph in an aircraft is not considered "very fast"

[@Rv12_pilot]

Well if you think about it, with a 100 hp engines it is very fast for any other Rotax 912 engines that cruse around 105 knots

[@MrTurbogreg6969]

@@Rv12_pilot which is funny bc that's about the stall speed of an f-16.🤣

[@baylortucker1867]

you probably dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me atm then you can stream all the new movies on instaflixxer. I've been binge watching with my brother during the lockdown :)

[@andressergio1532]

@Baylor Tucker yea, been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :)

[@agoodchristianpilot159]

@@MrTurbogreg6969 it is pretty fast for light sport aircraft, F-16s have literally nothing to do with that.

[@Tyler-gd3cq]

Me wondering what currency a brand new diamond da20 is only 200k is in...

[@derekwalker4622]

I like the video. However, I had to negative thumb the video for the "a wise man once said...." remark, and the mix-up between a couple of the planes' closed-captioning. I'm sorry, I hate those kind of intro's. On the plus side, it's not as bad as some I have seen.

[@Dwaynesaviation]

Thanks for the thumb Derek.... A thumb is a thumb, it doesn't matter where it's pointed

[@derekwalker4622]

@@Dwaynesaviation Well, like I said, I like the content of the video. You really should check out the C.C. of the vid, it is mixed up on the Just Super Stol, and the Pipistrel Virus. They are crossed up. I watch a lot of flying videos, and this is a good one. I just wished I could fly, I think it would be grand to have a pilots liscense.

[@regdor8187]

Get the Original, Lancair 200 .....

[@N937LC]

1/2 of these are not LSA.

[@n118nw]

While I appreciate you trying, please make sure your videos are at least factual. The planes you are showing are the higher end models that do not match the specifications you are saying. You even made the statement that the A5 has a 1400 mile range which is incorrect, you also said the CTLsi has a range of 1,200 miles which is incorrect, the range is 830 miles.

[@N9197U]

"the Icon A5 is a fast plane" "speed are 100 mph" Bruh a Cessna 150 can do 100 mph

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Yes, but can you FISH from a Cessna 150?

[@ianparr5899]

@@thisismagacountry1318 Only once, then it sinks :)

[@InterestingStuffAdventures]

I’d rather have an Arion Lightning

[@billblumke3506]

Pipistrel Virus !?! It is pronounced "VEER-us" please !!!

[@itsjavaman]

1st plane is not Light Sport

[@Argosh]

"Best 2 place airplanes" and then you show the Icon A5? Are you high?

[@dalestephan6777]

One problem with rotax is low time between TBO.. 300 hrs.

[@hypagoga]

Wrong. That is only the old 2 strokes used in powered hang gliders. Modern 4 stroke Rotax engines have TBO of 2000 hours.

[@MrTurbogreg6969]

Wow copying mojogrip Mike's stuff huh? Lazy much?

[@AClark-gs5gl]

Video police? Live life dude!

[@MrTurbogreg6969]

@@AClark-gs5gl no just pointing out it ripped someone else who actually took the time to do the research and post it...just so a lazy @$$ can rip it off.

[@MrTurbogreg6969]

@@AClark-gs5gl" It’s more fulfilling to give as much as you can - becoming a person of value - than to take what you can to become a person of "success." ~Albert Einstein

[@AClark-gs5gl]

@@MrTurbogreg6969 Greg, there is footage that MG has copied from others.

[@MrTurbogreg6969]

@@AClark-gs5gl I understand stock footage. You just trolling?

[@kevbrown1867]

Evolution the way to go good price and performance Icon expensive and who wants a car dashboard in a plane ? And would anyone in their right mind by a plane called virus ?

[@allangamayev3614]

!!!!!!!!!!!

[@alexeyyakovlev7022]

I tested VL3 - is not comfortable at all . And there is strange params at their site , faster speed only with rotax 915, but if you take look , never exceed speed - 340 km/h , but cruise speed 370 ! ???? also useful load = 240 kg , from which fuel is 140l or 100kg , so for your bodies + luggage you have 140 kg , e.q. one need to be a girl ... So they seem lie .

[@mehmetvural8095]

have a nice day. max speed. 275-300 mph. range 2000 mph. Two-seater plane for $200,000. A 4-seater plane for $300,000. Can I have it done to you or others? please provide information. thanks.

[@ZeeCaptainRon]

Some good info here, but PLEASE don't ask me to like and subscribe in the first 10 seconds, I get to decide after watching if I like it or want more from the source. The annoying background music and overly dramatic "monster truck rally" / "breathless newscaster" voiceover was grating on my ears as well. Just the facts ma'am, leave the drama for daytime TV.

[@1marktanderson]

This video needs to be taken down and reworked.

[@danblumel]

Icon is an underpowered POS. Marketing BS.

[@helenlutz3323]

virus is said verus

[@speedomars]

The JMB is not a light sport in retractable mode and it has a bubble cockpit, hyper hot. ICON is hyper expensive and SLOW. The Bristell is also a bubble cockpit...HOT. The RV8 is a kit (experimental) and not a light sport. The Risen is also not a light sport and bubble cockpit AND not sold in the US. No one gets a recreational pilots cert, if you do that training just finish the private pilot level. The JUST STOL is way overpriced and hyper slow...and only the Highlander model is SLSA. If you want SLSA and speed and STOL get a RANS S21 or a Kitfox. The Diamond is a good plane but also nearly $300k, far over most SLSA prices. The Flight Design CTLSi is a pure SLSA and is very good. Priced around $180k...but it has been superseded by Flight Design with their model F2. The Pipistrel Sinus is also an old design now. Now as good a deal as the FD F2. The Vans RV12 SLSA is a really good plane at a good price.

[@MadX8]

It is light sport, depending of the country. US is not the center of the universe mate.

[@speedomars]

@@MadX8 The US is the center of the aviation universe (invented in the US and the best aircraft are made in the US). And planes certified under EASA rules are not honored here in the USA. Light Sport has its own specific and more strict definition in the USA...matters zero if Europe has a different set of rules...if a maker in Europe wants or needs to sell into the US they must comply.

[@bikersoncall]

Midroll adds Dislike

[@briancoia8218]

Getting tired of these predicable AI scripted narrations

[@Tinker1950]

Undiluted crap. Out of date, loads of errors and missing a number of better aircraft.

[@edgarsdzerins]

Tarragon is way better than most of these!

[@evisovi207]

Fatest ultralight in the world

[@andreask9382]

The Icon is many things, „fast“ it is not.