10 Challenges For Prequel Haters

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

We'll be finishing the fight (Halo 2 Music Please) With "10 Challenges For Expanded Universe Haters"

[@bumblebee6090]

Star Wars the rise of Skywalker is the worst Star Wars movie

[@JimbobG.A.D]

@@bumblebee6090 Yes, it is

[@JimbobG.A.D]

Revenge Of The Prequels Unofficial Edition.

[@spartacus936]

OH YES PLEASE!

[@bumblebee6090]

@@spartacus936 the Star Wars expanded universe was at some point Canon

[@Onio_362]

As annoying as Anakin was in attack of the clones, that saying from Yoda, "never was his mind focused on where he was, or what he was doing" fits him.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Annoying people tend to not be focused on where they are or what they're doing.

[@claudioforjan1743]

Anakin being a sort of "anti-Jedi" is precisely the point of the prequel trilogy.

[@ryszakowy]

almost as if they written anakin exactly how they hinted him in OG trilogy

[@Foobie07]

Before Anakin states his opinion on sand Padme say's something like... Padme: We used to lay out on the sand. Anakin: I don't like sand. There's the context everyone's missing.

[@spartacus936]

AMEN

[@dancorneanu9144]

It's a guy who has horrible memories of something being reminded of it by a woman who had fond memories of it. He has zero tact.... What exactly would they expect him to say?

[@JohnM-cd4ou]

It's still a cheesy line

[@johnb2422]

@@JohnM-cd4ou Terribly cheesy and it's realistic I guess for this poorly written character to say it, but what is worse is the poorly written Padme actually FALLING FOR HIM! I guess that is the type of fantasy these Prequel nerds like to think may happen to them one day.

[@scottlenjenkins410]

Cheesy works. I lived in utah growing up and girls there love cheesy and they all were like padme everywhere. So it's a true real genuine situation I've had myself hundreds of times.

[@JimbobG.A.D]

"This is where the fun begins." - Anakin Skywalker

[@damienlarson4145]

There's more CGI in current MCU movies than the prequels.

[@talonnewton5486]

19:30 are we gonna forget about chewie swinging and doing the Tarzan noise in ROTJ

[@valthenvega2434]

Even the Kashyyyk Wookiees did it as a mirroring to that, in a very cool montage to take down a corporate alliance droid tank

[@darthprime1990]

Well said, man. Why do people complain about the CGI in the prequels where they don't seem to have a problem with the CGI in movies like the Marvel films? Villains like Thanos and Ultron, for example, were done with CGI, and they still hold up.

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Or movies like Avatar.

[@MovieGaps]

I see and hear people complain about Marvels CGI all the time. That being said, the prequels CGI was revolutionary and I think you’re right that it held up extremely well. Hell, as much as I hate Jar Jar I can’t deny I’m always amazed at how good he looks for 90s visual effects. I just wish they didn’t use so much green/blue screen. Really takes me out of my favourite scenes in those films how fake the background looks most of the time. Not a prequel hater btw, I quite enjoy them, but even I can see the flaws and why others wouldn’t like them.

[@xxdrroyalexx666]

The complain about the CGI came from mt. Plinkett and everyone else started saying it, and they didn't even understood why plinkett hated it.

[@firestriker3580]

Villains like Thanos and Ultron don’t hold up. However Darkseid and Steppenwolf hold up very very nicely

[@NotGayBen]

Because Thanos looks fucking amazing and the battle droids in the prequels look like a cartoon plopped into the real world? These two things don't even compare.

[@elijahd.techgnostic]

A perfect layout of the terrible arguments of prequel haters, thank you for doing this.

[@alcarbo8613]

Great video, just one correction Mustafar was almost entirely a practical miniature

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

Great Scott

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Even I knew that one!

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God You’ve only been kicked because you were naggy. You can come back when you want, just calm down

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God You post comments constantly and spell things out in all caps

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God Both

[@rodneydungan8965]

All good points. The prequels were great and I love TPM ! There are only 6 real SW films. That's it.

[@charlybr0wn226]

In my head the 1st force unleashed game is cannon as well.

[@deadaccount_q]

7 Rouge One counts

[@QORXamq]

2001/3 clone wars count as well

[@trevturp6891]

What about Rogue One and Solo?

[@DJUmi0710]

Amen!

[@matthewofcolumbus5610]

It says a lot about how difficult these challenges are, when no prequel haters in these comments are even trying to address them.

[@robthecow5029]

The prequel fans inhale so much cope.

[@morningwoody4514]

@@robthecow5029Translated: “I don’t have an actual argument, so I’ll use a tired meme response instead. That’ll show 'em.”

[@robthecow5029]

You wanna have a discussion? @@morningwoody4514

[@johnb2422]

@@morningwoody4514 Dude everything has been said about these terrible movies already. This video is kind of pathetic in its attempt to argue these movies have something of substance.

[@magdalenehagey4079]

I'm glad the Prequels have become more appreciated now, good old George Lucas is not the best at dialogue, but damn is he sure great at setting up the tangled web of the Siths' return, and the Jedis' failure, all wrapped around one emotionally tangled and conflicted man. It always breaks my heart how much the Jedi failed Anakin.

[@thegifting267]

He’s definitely good at coming up with ideas.

[@firestriker3580]

He IS the best at dialogue

[@firestriker3580]

@@thegifting267 He’s good at dialogue

[@thegifting267]

@@firestriker3580 some dialogue.

[@firestriker3580]

@@thegifting267ALL dialogue

[@ianmaclaren8989]

I’d love to hear your take on The People vs George Lucas, the so-called “voice of the fandom” that was made during the prequel era where people voiced their displeasure with George Lucas. You’re going to have a field day with that.

[@redjirachi1]

And people are making the same mistake with Kathleen Kennedy

[@trevturp6891]

@redjirachi1 Why? She’s a hack who destroyed Star Wars.

[@dtxspeaks268]

​@@trevturp6891The Fandom Menace is still in.tje wrong regardless of the quality of Disney Star Wars

[@Xeno_Solarus]

​@@dtxspeaks268 How? How are they in the wrong?

[@tk-6967]

11:15 To be fair to the Sequels that line was not implying that only the Sith knew cloning. That line is probably one of the few good lines in the ST because it acknowledges the EU in some shape or form.

[@atrapanasatromhtos9426]

The European union?How are they relevant to Star Wars?

[@tk-6967]

@@atrapanasatromhtos9426 EU stands for Expanded Universe

[@atrapanasatromhtos9426]

@@tk-6967 ok thx for the clarification you kulak

[@OnlyOneCannoli509]

4:42 Yeah, if Lucas and ILM used practical effects and filmed on real locations, then they would have had to film Mustafa in a real volcano. Which would've been incredibly unsafe for the actors and film crew and impossible to film. But I guess the prequel/George Lucas haters would've loved to have seen George and Hayden melt alive in malted lava.

[@valthenvega2434]

That being said, real volcanic activity was filmed for back shots of this film. Iceland I think it was. But again, concurring with what you say, you can’t risk having a film set on constant threat of a sulphuric intoxication or a sudden, very unexpected explosion that endangered the integrity of George Lucas, the actors, or the production at large. Could one imagine the lawsuits 20th century Fox or Lucasfilm would face if that happened? Lucasfilm would have to aid and face selling Skywalker ranch just to pay damages or lawsuits

[@thedarkjedi6980]

The OT seems like generic random nonsense without the prequels. Still good movies, but disconnected. Vader goes from a mildly concerned calculating mad dog, to a ruthless level headed cold blooded killer who is randomly the hero's dad, and then he is suddenly a conflicted tragic villain. The inconsistency doesn't make the most sense on it's own, but if you watch Revenge of the Sith you see him embody all those traits, and understand why he wouldn't care about the Empire until he meets his son, and why he would still feel conflicted about something he isn't invested in... Because he's been hooked on career performance his entire life, hence his Episode IV characteristics. He's been placating his guilt for betraying his friends by committing to a persona of evil and burying his pain beneath a monster, making up for a feeling of lacking control by manipulating the fear in others, hence his Episode V demeanor in response to discovering Luke is Anakin's son. He wants to convert Luke to evil to validate his own choices and mistakes, and when he can't he finally sees his choices were always a form of denial of his true feelings, which Luke sensed in him. And together those qualities clarify his Episode VI conflict. There's a vague arc that seems like wishy washy convenient post plot twist course correction that becomes crystal clear when you see where he came from. It takes something that seems spontaneous and shows how well it was actually planned out. George would always have to explain the trajectory of Vader's development, and always said there was a missing element of the originals he wanted have clarified when he was making the prequels. Everything he did with Anakin in the PT was to reenforce the way Vader was depicted in the OT. People thought he was a great villain because he was anything and everything to anyone with a scary design and voice, but George wanted Vader to have a very specific tragedy behind him, and that truly made him the best written villain in a beautifully crafted concrete manner. It's the exact opposite of how the ST builds off the OT, retroactively making it seem pointless in Episode VII, even trying to make it seem politically incorrect in Episode VIII, and then finally mocking it in Episode IX. Every episode of the PT added to and enriched the OT. I'd consider myself an OT purist, and that's why I love the PT and hate the ST. People who hate the PT are posers, not purists. Not Star Wars fans, but 80's movies fans. People who love the ST love them because they remind them of when they thought the OT was a mindless action film and not a deeply profound story of a fallen hero's redemption.

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

Can you edit this comment into paragraphs, this is hard to read

[@LilacSreya]

Very well thought out analysis. 👍🏻

[@johnb2422]

Yes you are right, us people who hate the prequels are not Star Wars fans, we are fans of GOOD films.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@johnb2422 Which the prequels are... which means you have no grasp on good storytelling.

[@yo519_]

atleast the prequel CGI isnt so bland like the mcu movies

[@anthonyruby2668]

Media Zealot's "Advance Civilizations too stupid to actually exist" is the great equalizer (Actually made me like the prequels more cause Palpatine could whipe out semi-independet trade guilds to)

[@pip5528]

I'm a prequel fan and a semi-sequel hater. I liked TFA initially but in context, it's easy to see the flaws. For some bizarre reason I liked TLJ when I first saw it but I couldn't help but notice the movie constantly switches between like 3 locations the entire time and the plot twists were kinda dumb. TRoS was confusing to me anyway so I definitely didn't need other people's criticisms to see that movie's flaws.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Hey, if you want a better sequel trilogy, read the Thrawn trilogy.

[@XXXkillerjack07XXX]

I grew up with TCW and I did not care for it at all. Anakin in TCW felt like a completely different character than in the prequels. I knew when I was 5 that Ashoka was shoehorned in for no good reason. I always felt it was in some more “child friendly” universe as Lucas originally wanted it.

[@XXXkillerjack07XXX]

You know what’s awesome, I just started reading the first issues of republic during the clone wars and I am blown away, Jabiim left me speechless. I feel like I’ve been deceived because the CWMMP went completely under my radar. I’m very excited to read more

[@ThatneGuy-wi8od]

Then Maul showed up.

[@loganveracruz6328]

Anakin in the clones wars is far more likable and better written that anything George Lucas could come up with lolololololol!

[@liamlinson7563]

tcw is a pretty dark series its what got me into sw and i was like 22 at the time

[@liamlinson7563]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God kzbin.info/www/bejne/mImbmoFsicSAlaM&ab_channel=ThatReallyGrillsMyCheese a kid's show?

[@Nidstang_]

Solid video for the most part. I found your animosity towards the OT a little misplaced though. 100% agree about your points on TCW though. I like the prequels, but kind of hate TCW for all the reasons you mentioned.

[@Nidstang_]

Also, only thing to add about "George Lucas is God", he ultimately ok'd TCW, so that's the one thing I will say "no" on. Technically speaking TCW trumps the Clone Wars MMP in Lucas's eyes, but I refuse that reality because the MMP was better in every way.

[@leylaaydn7192]

​@@Nidstang_ the animosity towards the OT may be because it's soo overrated that sometimes it gets annoying,people treat them like some perfect masterpieces and shit on everything that came after while every dumb thing they hate in prequels also exists in OT,but when those dumb things happen in OT for some reason it's ok..and that's quite annoying.So it's the OT fans who are annoying not the movies themselves.

[@firestriker3580]

It isn’t misplaced

[@firestriker3580]

@@Nidstang_He didn’t ok’d it

[@moisesmunguiafalloutmoises112]

Well J.J., you made me appreciate the prequels more and I might as well just watch them in Blu-ray Also I didn't know that Darth Vader would have to go through all that training 24/7 even when his pain and suffering inside the Suit got a motivated to do so, it's badass and reminds me of another character in a game I played

[@mmx9316]

When I was 6 years old, I saw first time episodes I-VI in chronological order and I loved them. Now in the present I can see some little flaws of the Prequels but they don’t impact on my enjoyment of the movies.

[@firestriker3580]

They have no flaws

[@clonetrooper2003]

@@firestriker3580 well there are genuine flaws with the films but nobody acknowledges them, instead resorting to the same crap rlm regurgitated

[@johnb2422]

@@firestriker3580 Tell me you have never watched a non-Star Wars movie without telling me you have never watched a non-Star Wars movie

[@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk]

​@@clonetrooper2003what are according to you the unacknowledged flaws? That would be interesting to hear if they indeed are rarely mentioned.

[@clonetrooper2003]

@ sure! *The CGI, despite beging groundbreaking lacks polish *Anakin’a turn mostly makes sense except when he wants to go from saving pakpatine, an unarmed prisoner, to mudering children *Padme’s role is borderline shafted in ROTS and is just a plot device *The non-character driven nature of the PT makes it harder to watch it aftet the OT, which some people won’t do *Some ideas that seem important are never fleshed out, such as the empire allegedly steaking CIS technology (the tie fighter wings loom like the logos of the seperatists????) Still amazing movies but not perfect either

[@year111]

CGI is an art in of itself. Otherwise the mcu movies and Pixar movies are terrible because of cgi.

[@youtubeviolatedme7123]

For the "same franchise, same standards" challenge: Could one argue that both the OT and the prequels suck because their protagonists are whiny (not my personal belief, just a hypothetical point)? Like, what if someone just hates Star Wars altogether? Because, then their hatred for the prequels is technically justified, so long as they also hate the OT.

[@firestriker3580]

No it isn’t justified

[@youtubeviolatedme7123]

@@firestriker3580 I also don't think it's justified, because I don't accept the premise that Anakin and Luke were whiny. But if someone else did accept that premise, then they could conclude that the PT is bad on the basis of an unlikeable protagonist if such is their standard for protagonists that it would irredeemably ruin their experience with any piece of fiction, so long as they also find their experience with the OT irredeemably poor for the same reasons, *and* so long as they also accept the _second_ premise that Anakin's and Luke's behaviors aren't distinguished from one another. But, to challenge that second premise, because I've had some time to deliberate on the matter, I would actually argue that Anakin's ill-temper, while perhaps unlikeable to some, has a greater purpose than Luke's, because those are the seeds for Anakin's rejection of the Jedi Order's dogma, whereas Luke is petulant because... reasons? Relatability I guess? It's his impatience, not his whining that hinders Luke from truly becoming a Jedi in Episode V, so I dunno why Luke acts like such a child in Episode IV other than just being kind of relatable. Either way, it's fine for people to dislike Anakin or Luke, because that's how taste in media works, but there's no way they can call Anakin's impetuous behavior an objective mistake (and it's often blown out of proportion when being described, because it's really not that intrusive in the first place) because it was quite intentional and serves an important purpose for his turn to the dark side.

[@leylaaydn7192]

if someone dislikes both Luke and Anakin bacause they are whiney i can understand it otherwise not so much

[@crabcakeenthusiast692]

I still like TCW but Ill admit it shouldnt be considered canon considering how much it co tradicted from the movies and the 2003-2007 clone wars multimedia project.

[@CrystalFire7x]

Same.

[@wholesome_bread]

when a small channel winds up on my recommended >>>>

[@firestriker3580]

No

[@itzorin600]

People forget about the second pirates movie pirates of the Caribbean even the first one the CGI still holds up on Davy Jones and that was back in Early 2000s and it's way better than CGI of today

[@Salvo-3172]

Yeah Davy Jones looks really impressive

[@jonathanperez7663]

You're trying to support something while hating on other things which is a terrible way to prove a point. All your good points are lost in your anger and hatred you come off as a hater of the sequel and original and not as a fan of the prequels.

[@jesuspernia8031]

I think the movies work both in order of release and chronologically

[@jenneacubero1036]

To be fair, it probabpy would've been better if Padme and Ani were seen as the same age in Ep. 1. Just have Little Padme be queen due to her parents and sister being killed or missing. Thus, ot could show how wars can cause kids to grow up way too fast. Plus it could've deconstructed the trope of the Childlike Empress and Princess Ozma. They were rulers of fairy/magical origins. Padme, meanwhile, was a human non-Force User. Meanwhile if O had to choose on a "Clone Wars" cartoon, I'd pick the one from the early 2000's. It’s accessible (you can easily find the episodes on KZbin), it's short so you won't go into Archive Panic compared to the later installments. Plus, ot was made by the same people behind "Samurai Jack"!

[@Kelis98]

All good points Also it is worth mentioning that when it comes to people mentioning dialogue haters almost never give specific examples and the ones they do can be easily debunked and explained. So it can help to demand evidence when they bring it up and give examples of good dialogue as well as dialogue within the OT (plus the dialogue is a stylistic choice that fits the movie that Lucas was trying to make and the context it’s in). That is a good point about them not being able to prove or have evidence for anything or understanding anything. There is also the point that many people enjoy the prequels and fine them very good which is also worth bringing up sometimes. Like if a hater says they are boring then you could easily say that not everyone agrees with them given what is entertaining to a person can be subjective and many find them entertaining and far from boring. Plus there is many evidence to disprove any notions of “boring” or otherwise.

[@jamessteadman933]

Dialogue is not easily debunked, as there isn't a single objective way to write dialogue, and a lot of the effectiveness of dialogue comes from the context within the scene, and less about what is being said at face value. What can be measured more intuitively is the strength of the delivery. The way these 'stylistic' lines are written delivered, and directed are often very flat, which reduces tension in scenes. A lot of people overlook general screenwriting and directing principles that increase the quality of scenes in movies. It's the reason why breaking bad scenes are so rewatchable, and why famous lines are so quotable. An obvious principle is to make your characters seem like they care about what's going on. For example, the effectiveness of the underwater chase scene in the phantom menace was diminished by the lack of emotional engagement present in the characters (except for Jar Jar I guess). They didn't seem worried about the situation, so why should the audience be worried? This is a recurring issue in these movies. In contrast, look at the scene in ESB where the main characters were entering an asteroid field. Everybody seemed panicked as C3PO yelled out the odds of surviving an asteroid field, which then brought out Han's famous 'never tell me the odds' line. Again, the line at face value might not seem that special, but it's a heroic line that raises the stakes of the scene with charismatic delivery from Harrison ford, which is why it is viewed as such an effective line of dialogue. In comparison, nothing from AOTC or TPM comes with this amount of charm. I'm gonna end with a final thought: film is subjective. While there are guidelines for dialogue and other screenwriting principles, the breaking of some of these principles may not bother some people, which is totally fine. The fact that these movies consistently breaks a lot of these principles is why a lot of people don't like them. Which is also fine. When people make movie reviews, they lay out what worked for them, and what didn't. It's not some kind of personal attack (for the most part). Thus, people who criticize these movies shouldn't be automatically labelled as 'prequel haters'. It's a huge generalization.

[@DarthFatalistLordoftheSith]

@@jamessteadman933 *Dialogue is not easily debunked, as there isn't a single objective way to write dialogue, and a lot of the effectiveness of dialogue comes from the context within the scene, and less about what is being said at face value. What can be measured more intuitively is the strength of the delivery. The way these 'stylistic' lines are written delivered, and directed are often very flat, which reduces tension in scenes.* Ummmm yes they are very easily debunkable. All you do is take quotes out of context and just say "they're awkward and stilted." The reason "I don't like sand "is a bad line: because you say it's a bad line. How do these lines come off as stilted an awkward exactly??? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're just arbitrarily saying that it's bad. I could just as easily do the same thing with the original trilogy."You scruffy looking nerf-herder" was pretty bloody awful yet you don't acknowledge similar cringely lines in the original trilogy because it goes against your narrative. Plus there's something that you're not addressing: just because something is cheesy does not make it bad. You know what else is cheesy: pizza. Everybody loves pizza and it's cheesy as hell. *An obvious principle is to make your characters seem like they care about what's going on. For example, the effectiveness of the underwater chase scene in the phantom menace was diminished by the lack of emotional engagement present in the characters (except for Jar Jar I guess). They didn't seem worried about the situation, so why should the audience be worried? This is a recurring issue in these movies. In contrast, look at the scene in ESB where the main characters were entering an asteroid field. Everybody seemed panicked as C3PO yelled out the odds of surviving an asteroid field, which then brought out Han's famous 'never tell me the odds' line. Again, the line at face value might not seem that special, but it's a heroic line that raises the stakes of the scene with charismatic delivery from Harrison ford, which is why it is viewed as such an effective line of dialogue.* This is a massive false equivalence. The underwater scene in the Phantom Menace and the asteroid seen an Empire strikes back are completely different and they don't at all serve the same purpose. The underwater scene was never meant to be tense in the same way. The goal of that scene was to give an in-depth character deep dive (no pun intended) for Jar Jar, Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon. We get a very firm grasp of their back stories, their dynamics together, and their motivations. I like the little detail of showing the master and student dynamic between the Jedi characters. It does a lot to set up their fate in the final battle of the movie. Plus, there is tension in the scene… It's just expressed differently given that the two Jedi are war monks that suppress their emotions. So expecting the Jedi characters to come off the same way as Han Solo is quite frankly missing the point. And if you wanna talk about steaks in the original trilogy… They're not nearly as high as you think they are. You say that the scene is tense, yet throughout the entire trilogy the storm troopers provide absolutely zero tension or steaks to the entire thing. It gets so bad that our main characters don't even bother taking cover when storm troopers fire at them. The only time our heroes actually get harmed by storm troopers at the very end when Leia gets shot... Which she pretty much recovers from as if nothing ever happened. On the other hand, the asteroid seeing an empire was meant mostly to be an action scene, with the added bonus of enduring us to Han Solo a little bit by showing us how cool of a pilot he is. But this was not something that the movie absolutely needed, but it still benefit from it. *In comparison, nothing from AOTC or TPM comes with this amount of charm.* Do you know what you're absolutely right. The prequel had absolutely no charm whatsoever. The biggest problem is that they didn't have enough incest. The part where Luke lusts over his sister and where she repeatedly reciprocates his feelings is exactly why the Empire strikes back is the best movie evar. Too bad Padme was not Ankain's [step] sister. Not having incest in the Episodes I-III was such a crippling blow to the films quality. And the part where Luke says "well I'm going to Tashi station to pick up some power converters" was such a perfect line. Oh don't forget the part where Leia says "someone who loves you" when saving Han Solo. Plus the prequel's have such a lack of charm that nobody regurgitates those lines over and over. I mean seriously… Who says "I have the High Ground" or "Hello There" in casual conversation??/s *I'm gonna end with a final thought: film is subjective. While there are guidelines for dialogue and other screenwriting principles, the breaking of some of these principles may not bother some people, which is totally fine. The fact that these movies consistently breaks a lot of these principles is why a lot of people don't like them. Which is also fine. When people make movie reviews, they lay out what worked for them, and what didn't.* I'm gonna end you on this final thought: film is *not* subjective. There are objective metrics for measuring world building, character consistency, plot progression, etc. Which the prequel trilogy passes those with flying colors. And while there's a lot of people that don't like them, there are far more people who like them. In fact it's quite trendy to say that the prequel trilogy is the best trilogy now. There is a poll that strongly proves this. It was done by Star Wars theory Star Wars theory, by far the biggest Star Wars channel. Here is three times the subscribers of red letter media. Hilarious how nobody that doesn't like the prequels doesn't acknowledge anything that the prequels did particularly well. And it's not like I can't see that the prequels have flaws. They do have issues. But the issues that you bring up are just simply not valid. George Lucas was not surrounded by Yes Man, the prequel trilogy did not over use CGI, and Anakin was not ruined by these films. I can go into more detail... Where are you end up doing is saying something snarky like "just because it's original doesn't mean it's good." To which I would say "just because it's original does not mean it's bad." All that matters at the end of the day is the execution… But your attempts to prove why they suck are vague and unconvincing (as Rogue One might say). *It's not some kind of personal attack (for the most part).* So it is a personal attack… Just some of the time. Nice to know you have no integrity whatsoever. I mean come on guys… If you're gonna steal my right to enjoy these movies at least put in some amount of effort. *Thus, people who criticize these movies shouldn't be automatically labelled as 'prequel haters'. It's a huge generalization.* I think this might be the closest thing to being a valid point. There is a distinction between people who fairly criticize the movies and those who are just "prequel haters". Good job on this part. But then again, a broken clock is right two times a day. With that being said, the biggest problem is that the vast majority of the hatred for the prequels is done in VERY poor faith. You're gonna have a very hard time convincing me that ruining Jake Lloyd's life somehow made the prequels stronger. Now people on the other side of the aisle will say something cheesy like "we're passionate about Star Wars so it's OK to be toxic." You want to know who else was passionate? Ted Bundy! He was very passionate about women...so much so that he killed dozen of them. Just because you're passionate about something doesn't mean that you shouldn't be held accountable. And the fact that the biggest critics of the prequels don't ever hold themselves to a higher standard is an issue. Look nobody's telling you to like these movies. If you wanna just watch the OT and ST and skip the PT.....THEN NOBODY IS STOPPING YOU. BUT Don't do this thing that we all have to validate your own disappointment with the movies. I love the Star Wars prequel trilogy and if that bothers you… You shouldn't be on this platform. MTFBWU

[@jamessteadman933]

@@DarthFatalistLordoftheSith Film IS subjective. It's why you like the prequels and I don't (with the exception of ROTS). As with all art, there is a certain amount of objectivity to film criticism. (You can't turn in a blank palette at a museum and expect it to be displayed). However, along with plenty other subjective metrics, the weighing of these objective metrics differs from person to person. Also, I was not trying to claim that the prequels have bad dialogue, as I recognize the original movies had some odd lines here and there as well. I was just pointing out that the delivery of some of the seemingly cornier lines was much stronger in the originals. Again, you might not agree because film is ultimately subjective. Also the Star Wars Theory poll thing seems very biased as the poll was posted by a massive prequel fan who would attract an audience with similar likings, but that's besides the point. You seemed to misjudge what I meant when I said "It's not a personal attack (for the most part)". By "for the most part", I am excluding those "fans" who do actually attack people for liking the movies. I suppose I could have worded that slightly differently. I'll admit, my comparison between the Jar Jar scene and the asteroid scene in ESB was not the best choice. However, I still think the prequels suffered from a lack of energy that made a lot of action scenes less enjoyable (the asteroid scene in AOTC, for example). And yes, I acknowledge that the Jedi are supposed to be composed, but I feel that there's a way to do it well, and the prequels did not hit the mark for me. It's why the Anakin vs Dooku duel in AOTC was less enjoyable in comparison to the duel in ESB. In ESB there was dialogue, emotion, and character, not to mention the big plot twist at the end. I will say, however that AOTC was the worst of the three for me, and the duel in the phantom menace, and to an extent the duels in ROTS both did a much better job at those things. My general point still stands, though.

[@firestriker3580]

@@jamessteadman933Film is NOT subjective

[@firestriker3580]

⁠@@jamessteadman933All of what you said is false. Film is NOT subjective

[@scottlenjenkins410]

Disney sequels were despicable, they tore down everything about the original characters to help their newer characters to outshine the old. And it fell so hard and flat. They murdered the skywalker saga to promote their own garbage characters and story. Shameful of anyone that was creatively involved in that. They shouldn't work in Hollywood again

[@OgamiItto70]

Sorry, midichlorians were *_never_* mentioned *_anywhere_* by George Lucas or anyone else before _The Phantom Menace._ That's in reference to dozens, scores, maybe hundreds of interviews and articles on _Star Wars_ and how the Original Trilogy was written, produced and shot. They _didn't_ "exist all along." That's just cope on your part for a bad writing decision retconning how the Force works in order to lock Anakin into his Chosen One archetype. And the reason that OT fans wouldn't have balked at midichlorians in the OT *_is because the OT is where all the setup of the universe (including the Force) was.!_* *_Maybe._* Or maybe not. Plenty of OT fans (me included) aren't too sold on Ewoks, think how Boba Fett was built up to be some major dude and then got taken out like a bitch was stupid, and have other criticisms of the films. But George had _three whole movies_ to put the "midichlorian" idea into the story and didn't. No one mentions them, not Obi-Wan Kenobi, not Yoda, not Darth Vader/Anakin, not the Emperor. Kind of a strange omission for such an important factor in how the Force is supposed to work, wouldn't you say? Midichlorians were a George Lucas retcon of the existing story. His prerogative, sure, but that doesn't change the _fact._ I notice you didn't mention the Jedi superspeed that doesn't work when the plot doesn't want it to anymore or the asinine "there's always a bigger fish" silliness. And a good thing, too: they're indefensible. Other than that I agree with your points. I think that the Prequel Trilogy is a masterpiece of a filmmaking genius, somewhat flawed though they may be. They certainly don't deserve the overblown hate they seem to often receive.

[@Onio_362]

There was nothing in the originals that would prove the midichlorians didn't exist tho

[@pablocardoso7830]

Midichlorians don't retcon anything about how the Force works; If anything, they explain why not everyone in the galaxy aside from a few individuals like the Skywalker family, Obi-Wan, Yoda and Palpatine could use the force in the originals. They're not the Force itself, but rather the thing that allows Force users to be Force sensitive, and a way to quantify how powerful a Force user could be had he or she been trained in the ways of the Force. It's literally the Star Wars equivalent to the ki power levels from Dragon Ball.

[@russellharrell2747]

I would ask ‘could you imagine if Spielberg, Zemekis and Ron Howard had directed the prequels?’ But a better question would have been imagining if they had directed the sequels.

[@handsomedevil4928]

Both the sequels and prequels would’ve been better. Better directors would probably result in better movies.

[@clonetrooper2003]

@@handsomedevil4928 Ok but Spielberg WANTED Lucas to direct the films

[@handsomedevil4928]

@@clonetrooper2003 just because he wanted Lucas to do them or thought Lucas would do it better doesn’t automatically mean that Lucas did a better job than Spielberg would’ve.

[@clonetrooper2003]

@@handsomedevil4928 ok so u are saying that spielbueg SHOULDNT have had faith in his friend, the guy he worked with on indiana jones?

[@handsomedevil4928]

@@clonetrooper2003 no. I’m not saying that at all. I’m not really even saying Spielberg should have directed them. I’m just saying they probably would’ve a been better movies by a little bit.

[@spartacus936]

THIS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS! 😎

[@LordGrim1313]

I used to like TCW, until I started to read EU books. Filoni missed the target hard.

[@Peregrin3]

There is no such thing as too much CGI there is only good CGI and bad CGI. Most of the complaints I've seen have more to do with writing and Directing than CGI itself, a perfect example is Avatar. That movie is like 90 percent CGI, the movie is rightfully critiqued a lot but no one in their right mind would say the CGI made it worse, in fact, it is probably its biggest strength. I really liked TCW but I think it was a big mistake. It seriously damaged the lore and laid the groundwork for future Disney garbage.

[@davidmr11able]

Haven't you noticed that people don't complain so much about politics in SW anymore? It is not true that the sequels made the prequels better, but they did put things in context. Now people understand the importance of world-building. In addition, tired voices are already beginning to emerge that in everything they make of SW, they only know how to take us to Tatooine or another random desert planet, instead to new planets and fantastic places like Lucas did. And considering the latest products that Disney has made, the lack of narrative and the lack of coherence in the story is worrying. I guess it's only a matter of time before people learn to appreciate the magic of the prequels.

[@firestriker3580]

They didn’t put things in context and people DO complain about politics in SW

[@firestriker3580]

They don’t understand the importance of world building

[@Arthus850]

Wait, the latest products that Disney has made is The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, with Obi-wan Kenobi and Ahsoka to follow. Or are those the products you’re talking about?

[@firestriker3580]

They didn’t put things in context dude

[@firestriker3580]

@@Arthus850 No

[@Xeno_Solarus]

I can't stand Cosmonaut.

[@KamenRaidenDorysamy]

I can't stand red letter media.

[@MEDZFactor]

“Sequel fans” you mean shills?

[@vraisairs9201]

This is unwise, but I am going to try to respond to your points: 1. The argument isn’t that Lucas used CGI because he was lazy. It’s just that it looks bad. Yes he helped progress the medium but that doesn’t change the fact that the overuse of special effects negatively affects the overall product of the prequels. First does not mean good. And people misreading physical models as CGI doesn’t invalidate their criticisms of visuals taking them out of the story. If it looks bad, it looks bad, CGI or not Ok, just cuz something is hard, doesn’t mean it’s good. Yes, overuse of CGI is an oversimplification but it boils down to the special effects (practical or CGI) looking bad/not aging well, which I don’t think is really arguable 2. Fair that people should research more before making judgement calls on Lucas’ moral standing. But I would say that “no prequel haters watch the featurettes” is an over generalization 3. This just comes down to personal taste. I think the dialogue and acting in the prequels is stilted and wooden but that’s just me and anyone can feel what they feel 4. As a kid, I liked the prequels and then fell out of love with them as I got older. I still have a soft spot in my heart for Episode 1 but episode 2 is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen. But I do take umbrage with your diagnosis of the Clone Wars. I found Anakin’s character and his relationship with Padme make much more sense in the show than the films. The chip complaint is a mixed bag. Depending on who you ask, the chips existed from the beginning or they were made up by TCW. And maybe I’m a little too forgiving to the writers’ whims but I think saving some clones for later stories is fair Now I know you didn’t say this but I’ve had friends who do say TCW retroactively improves the prequels: TCW can make you enjoy the prequels more but it doesn’t improve the quality of those films because the show didn’t exist when the films were made 5. No I won’t hold the prequels to the same standards as the OT because they were made in different contexts at different times. Historical context is important. For example, Since you mentioned it before, T2 looked good for the time, but the metal effects would be considered bad if it came out today. Another example, Citizen Kane is considered one of the greatest films of all time. I watched it. It’s fine. But for when it came out, it was groundbreaking. Things we take for granted now we’re totally new in that film. So we need the history to fully appreciate that film. Now more specifically: I haven’t heard people complain about final fight swinging being unrealistic, that is dumb. But it does look goofy In terms of the antagonists being under developed, Maul is fine. He’s dark and cool and serves a purpose. Maybe underutilized but whatever. Grievous tho has basically no purpose in the film. He’s cool, but if we’re not counting EU territory, he doesn’t contribute to the story or themes of Episode 3 at all. He just takes up time and sets Obi Wan up with a way to escape Order 66. But Dooku definitely should have more characterization! He is an ex Jedi and an important political figure in the separatist movement. Going deeper into his motivations could do a great job in exposing The hypocrisy of the Jedi order Not all bad guys need deep, rich backstories, but they do need purposes for taking up time in a film And the whatabout-isms levied towards the OT and the sequel trilogy don’t invalidate any of the criticisms of the prequels. You’re assuming a lot of positions that people hold 6. The prequels were made after the OT. They will mostly be viewed in the context of already knowing the OT. So criticisms based on that are valid. Watching 1-6 is also valid. I’ve done both. I saw all these movies at such a young age I don’t even remember seeing any of them for the first time. There is no real way of how you’re “supposed to watch them”. 1-3, 4-6, 7-9 is one way. 4-6, 1-3, 7-9 is another way. Hell! For younger kids, 7-9 might be the first ones they see. Everyone has their own experience with the series Btw, I love KOTOR 7. Idk people who say that the biggest part of Vader’s personality is being a badass, but I’ll take your word for it. That is shallow. I already said that what about-isms annoy me but I’ll play. I won’t defend episodes 8 or 9 but I do think 7 is actually a pretty good reintroduction to the Star Wars universe after 15 years of no mainline films Whenever midichlorions were conceptualized, the concept still overcomplicates the universe and contributes to the weird relationship Star Wars already has with eugenics. Lucas was right to keep them out of the OT. 8. George Lucas is not god of Star Wars. His opinion matters but it isn’t the only one that matters And I think he would agree with me. The universe of Star Wars is extremely malleable. For instance, there are in-universe reasons for Mace Windu having a purple light saber. But what is the real reason? Samuel Jackson wanted one. They figured out why later. And that’s fine. Art is a collaboration. Auteurs aren’t real 9. Different people find different things boring. This is true. I find Episodes 2 and 3 boring, but that’s me. I agree people should judge things on a case by case basis. But that romance, I cannot abide by it! Natalie Portman and Hayden Christianson have no chemistry. But let’s be more specific. One of the first things Anakin says to Padme after 10 years is that he thinks about her everyday and she is in his dreams. Ew! What about “I’m haunted by the kiss you should never have given me.” That’s not tragically romantic. It’s negging. The only real quality time they have together before GETTING MARRIED is at the vacation home and what do they do? Eat in silence and lay in the grass and discuss how Anakin is a low key crypto fascist. “What if people don’t agree?” “Then they should be made to!” No anakin! And Padme is a straight up adult at this point. She would not have time for his bullshit 10. I won’t defend Cosmonaut. Idk him or his video. Not important. Tho i can tell the “they rejected him because he was too evil” was obviously a joke. Yes it was cuz he was too old but also because they sensed darkness in him, which is what I’m guessing he’s joking about But I will say that factual errors don’t make criticisms invalid. Most of the issues people have with the prequels aren’t that they don’t make sense. People have issues with the narrative, with the pacing, with the cinematography You don’t have to take notes to critique a film. Yea maybe people come into the movies expecting to dislike them, which isn’t fair, but that is a case by case thing and you’re assuming a lot about people’s mentality towards film P.S. I understand your annoyance at what you see as unfair hate for the prequels but people are not gonna be receptive to you calling them dumbasses. So I guess who is your audience? Are you actually trying to change minds or just appeal to people who agree with you? P.P.S. So you know my overall opinions: I love The OT. I like episodes 1 and 7. 3 is fine. I appreciate what 8 was trying to do but it didn’t pan out. And 2 and 9 are dog water.

[@vraisairs9201]

That was exhausting! 😩 I hope I didn’t come off too aggressive or dismissive. Intention and tone are hard when typing And I honestly kinda hope you see this and understand where I, and other people who don’t like the prequels very much, are coming from They’re very important films to my childhood and i will always have a soft spot for them, but as I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to realize they’re flawed pieces of art

[@LilacSreya]

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[@BlemishedHalo]

You summed up pretty well why Prequel Hate arguments don't hold water. And yes I grew up with TCW and I like it. But I admit it have some changes from the EU that I dosagree with and although Anakin in the show is not better than in the movie I still think he had some iteresting moments. Aldo the warcrome thing is kunda wierd. One could argue that he is giving into the dark side, but in the movies after every terrible thing he done he reacted to it. I guess force choking Poggle is not a bad thing.

[@firestriker3580]

Not disagree

[@firestriker3580]

No

[@SBN3vids]

The reality is all the nitpicks from online wannabe filmmakers started because the prequel screenplays were boring which led to guys looking to express these feelings through something more intricate than "It was boring". We had 10 years of people connecting online over how empty they felt watching the prequels which easily sells negativity to the pseudo-intellectual pockets on the internet. In male dominated internet communities, not liking things has a connotation with being smarter than others so it was even easier to funnel hatred for the prequels with a silly movie review. Meanwhile, the TikTok generation doesn't buy into nerd negativity as much which created a second wind of love for 1-3.

[@shedshow1439]

I can’t speak on your final point but other than that, wow, very well said.

[@Cashtron-d8b]

I think the prequels are heavily underrated, they did something different from the OG trilogy and used CGI the right way.

[@bionic-tale4313]

Although you bring up points in order to defend the prequels, which I do appreciate. But the Prequel hate has already died down since the sequel trilogy's conclusion. I think you are becoming too much like the same fanatics who bashed the prequels. Like in your "Empire's strikes back is overrated" video. However, you did say you made it as a joke to mock the Prequel haters. But you are letting your anger get the better of you and makes you come across like the same fanatics you sought to destroy.

[@firestriker3580]

Prequel hate didn’t die down dude and he was never a fanatic

[@firestriker3580]

Nope he isn’t the same fanatics who bashed the prequels

[@firestriker3580]

@Kenobi Not

[@bionic-tale4313]

@@firestriker3580 Well, I guess I was a bit too harsh on him. It's just his tone of his voice. Also could you kindly please stop spamming, it makes you come across like angry fanboy to others or a hack.

[@bionic-tale4313]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God I agree, but there are still sequel fans around and their opinions are just as vaild as ours. Even though we might not agree with their points, but if we do the same thing like the fanboys, they will come back with a resurgence in later years if we fall into the same trap. The reason why the prequel resurgence happened is because of how the sequels were handled by directors with two clashing visions, most notably what TLJ and TROSW did to the franchise. The media and Rian didn't help things in the slightest by attacking any fan who dislike the movie, causing further fracturing of the community. Even though many fans love TCW, it actually did a lot of damage to the EU's continuity and the misconceptions on it being non-canon only added more fuel to the dumpster fire. I might've said some things in a biased way, but J.J plagiarism's problem is that he comes across like an angry Prequel fanboy to the other side, due to his tone and thinking highly of his opinion as being fact.

[@XXXkillerjack07XXX]

I totally recommend the novelizations for the prequels if you haven’t read them already.

[@spartacus936]

In the Revenge of the Sith novelization Anakin treats Padmé very badly, he acts on the verge of abuse with her and before she tells him that she's pregnant, he accuses her of cheating on him. Since I’m a huge fan of the Anakin x Padmé couple, I much prefer the way Anakin and Padmé are represented in the movies, because in the movies Anakin is always kind and sweet with her until he falls to the Dark Side, so I much prefer this version of Anakin over that of the novel. However, this does not alter the fact that in the novel there is a lot of interesting information, which I integrate in my head-canon, such as the idea that Anakin wanted to be promoted to the rank of master to access the forbidden section of the archives of the Temple.

[@XXXkillerjack07XXX]

I liked how how horrible and into himself he was as he became Vader; the confidence after he “killed the dragon” which was his fear, further divided Anakin and Vader into separate personalities. I thought the cheating bit was due to Anakin becoming paranoid by Palpatines “advice.” Anyways I just started the EU after being brainwashed that it was garbage by new fanatics. I am excited to read more

[@LilacSreya]

@@spartacus936 .

[@wyattweaver3730]

My old roommate tried to tell me the light saber duals sucked in the prequels because they were over choreographed and he’s not the first personI’ve heard with this incorrect opinion

[@DisFantasy]

I've experienced juxtaposing when meeting someone I hadn't seen in a long time. If they've undergone some kind of transformation or are reintroduced in a strange new context, it can be jarring either in a positive or negative way. Like if someone has lost alot of weight for example. Or being reunited with a childhood friend who's suddenly undergone a radical growth spurt. Anakin would have had a bit of a glow up. Padme saying "he'll always be that little boy on Tatooine" was a deflection. She thought he was hot.

[@speedybasket5205]

You are the king of this galaxy

[@moisesmunguiafalloutmoises112]

Well, JJ, I got myself all the Star Wars films from Episode I-VI so i can perform that Cronological experiment you suggested on my mother, who hasn't seen Star Wars.

[@tomnorton4277]

In response to point 4, The Prequels were actually better without The Clone Wars. That overrated mess of a show does nothing to improve upon them. In fact, it destroys vital parts of them, most notably Anakin and Dooku's entire personalities, Maul being 100% dead, and Order 66, which was made so laughably obvious that the Jedi had to be complete retards to not see it coming. The 2003 Clone Wars is the actual canon. That slots in perfectly between Attack Of The Clones and Revenge Of The Sith and doesn't pull any bullshit retcons or ruin important scenes and characters from the movies. The only problem is some issues with the power scaling of characters - especially Grievous who was too overpowered for a non-Force user - but that's very minor compared to the canon destroying shit in the 2008 Clone Wars.

[@jenneacubero1036]

Plus, if they want to have Ani mentor a lid character then why not young Boba Fett. He's not Forcs Sensitive but Padme adopting Boba as her ward out of the goodness of her heart (even despite naysayers) could've led to an exploration on how Ani could've been as a father and how Padme's death and Ani's turn had changed things.

[@jiggycalzone8585]

I was 18/19 when ROTS came out and i idenitified with Anakin pretty hard ngl

[@Backstromer1235]

You make good points but you gotta chill the hell out man. Present yourself in a calm, mature way and more people will actually listen to what you have to say instead of just thinking you’re an angry prequel fanboy.

[@firestriker3580]

Dude shut up and nobody thinks he’s an angry prequel fanboy. Also he IS mature. He doesn’t have to be calm.

[@Backstromer1235]

@@firestriker3580 yelling about how others are wrong is objectively immature. There is no need to yell to get your point across in a youtube video.

[@thegifting267]

He does seem like an angry fanboy though.

[@firestriker3580]

@@Backstromer1235 He isn’t yelling about others and let’s hypothetically say he was, IT IS NOT WRONG AND IMMATURE. So how about you stop coming on here spreading hate like you tards always do and actually listen to facts

[@firestriker3580]

@@thegifting267 No he doesn’t

[@scottlenjenkins410]

I'll admit i like the prequels a lot more nowadays and am ashamed because everything i love about it now has always been there. And Disney is learning (hopefully) that in a show or movie that story actually matters to every story! There's a million writers out there qualified and more deserving to tell the story of star wars.

[@BrentSohlden]

I'm both a Sequel fan and a Prequel lover

[@BrentSohlden]

I also like the Acolyte

[@Salvo-3172]

I like toilet duck

[@peteypiranalover]

Around 5 years old i understood enough for the plot what the Taxation of trade routes meant. It was an extreme maneuver to get more money Naboo and other systems out of fear would increase thier Taxes Just like in real life Disney fighting with sony because they want more money out of spiderman.

[@DustinDustin00]

Challenge #1: watching episode 2. Challenge #2: watching episode 3. No. No, I can't complete this challenge.

[@Onio_362]

I honestly liked the political aspect of star wars. It was a fresh new take on the franchise.

[@animationunlimited2958]

31:57 Lucas is like ''hope your happy fanboys''.

[@Daniel-ms9ks]

I think the prequels could have been made better, but revenge of the sith was well done if you ask me. I hate All Disney Disney Star Wars (besides Rouge one,)

[@anthonyfes]

I liked solo, it could have a good star wars story if it wasn't a Han Solo movie

[@da-vidcargill4975]

cry more p.s just banter i enjoy all starwars movies that are canon ( yes including the sequels)

[@Daniel-ms9ks]

@@da-vidcargill4975 I am not crying, I just recognize that all the Disney Star Wars movies besides rouge one are all stupid, the Originals are awesome, the Prequels, while not perfect are also good. The Sequels however are pure garbage.

[@firestriker3580]

The prequels couldn’t been made better because it was always better

[@firestriker3580]

@@Daniel-ms9ks Originals aren’t perfect either

[@JinxTheLooneyToon915]

Anakin Skywalker (This is where the Fun begins.)

[@Gooooofey]

33:48 finally someone comes out and says it

[@BlackMaleSpirituality]

It would be interesting to see you do a video on challenges for people who dislike Star Wars in general.

[@magicalpasta5462]

My rating is the original series first, the ewok tv movies that bc of childhood nostalgia I have childhood memories of them, and third is the prequels. I never seen the sequel movies. And there's an example of an overuse of cgi most modern horror films.

[@firestriker3580]

That isn’t an example and the prequels are the first

[@firestriker3580]

No

[@bumblebee6090]

TurfNation as a Disney shill watch why it's great videos you see why he's a Disney shill

[@MasterporkyMinch]

I have to disagree with you regarding the clone wars. I don’t think the show was That bad and it works well but that’s my opinion

[@clonetrooper2003]

Still overrated

[@firestriker3580]

No that show is bad and it doesn’t work well

[@TrumanHuff]

This changed my life and now for me the prequels are amazing. I especially love the scene where Anakin is a FREAK and rubs padme’s bear back while he talks about sand and war crimes

[@cashthecurator666]

Yo, can you please do a video on Sam Gavin’s review of Attack of the Clones? Or better yet, “Star Wars Prequel Fans and That Phrase They Use”. Both of those videos are old , but I’ve HATED them for years. That dude is one of the biggest prequel-haters out there, which is fitting considering he’s friends with HelloGreedo.

[@markgarrett3647]

As a kid I liked the Phantom Menace but even then I still didn't like it for it's long and boring dialogues that felt like they could go on forever at times.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

There a reason why they hate the prequels so much and personally I want to know, I want to know what is fueling their hatred where does the urge to have so much malignant hate for it.

[@Cake2019_6]

Same here, I love each Star Wars movie, okay story wise Episode 7, 8, and 9 fell off, but they are watchable. Like criticism about each Star Wars movie is okay, but the amount of hatred Prequel Haters have is astonishing.

[@ArchangelExile]

Lord of the Rings boring? Wtf...

[@clonetrooper2003]

when did he say that?

[@Cake2019_6]

​@@clonetrooper2003At point 9 where people said that politics made the Prequels Boring

[@talora5991]

@@clonetrooper2003he did say that but he acknowledged it’s still well made

[@clonetrooper2003]

@@talora5991 well guess he ain’t gonna be a legendarium fan anytime soon lmfao.. that just made manda-lore very sad

[@Gooooofey]

37:24 I mean he probably could have figured it out on geonosis when he saw dooku and jango standing together showing that they were working together.

[@firestriker3580]

Not

[@blaketibbitts2875]

Nah. Although a fair point without context, two things should be kept in mind. One, Jango and Dooku were standing on a balcony very far away, and two, Obi-Wan was busy fighting a monster trying to kill him.

[@Gooooofey]

@@firestriker3580 can idiots like you stop insisting that you’re right and everybody else is wrong without giving significant context? “Not” does not debunk my statement

[@firestriker3580]

@@blaketibbitts2875nah

[@EvilMonster9000]

Was Lucas was on the Epstein flight logs

[@shedshow1439]

Nah he clean

[@EvilMonster9000]

@@shedshow1439 that’s a relief

[@timwinchester354]

Medicine!

[@peteypiranalover]

I grew up in the prequel era amd watchs the OT first. However they felt like they flowed naturally enough into each other

[@rakor8914]

so you think iz flat? :)

[@da-vidcargill4975]

dude STOP, you are defending something by bashing other things. you are no different than the haters

[@firestriker3580]

YOU are no different than the d riders of the originals and the sequels. HE IS. He is defending and giving facts while you are nothing but a hater.

[@jonathanperez7663]

He spent 40mins foaming at the mouth and calling people names that disagree with him. The kid is toxic AF.

[@bionic-tale4313]

@@jonathanperez7663 Well, I agree that he does get a bit too angry and harsh in his responses, however I think he does that because of all the hatred the prequels unfairly got in the early 2010s, as well as many reviews that do repeat the same things and missed a lot of details. Which might've affected the way the sequels were made by Diseny Lucasfilm, since they don't want to mentionthem outside of TCW. I don't agree with the way he's saying it nor some of his points nor the way he acts like a mirror to the same fanatics. He's not really a hack, but an angry prequel fan who is sick of watching Star Wars fall into mediocrity under Diseny due to many factors, like the decanonizing(plagiarism) of the EU and the misconceptions surrounding them. I know you might think that I'm defending him, but I have certain problems with his videos. Which I explained already.

[@firestriker3580]

@@bionic-tale4313 no

[@firestriker3580]

@@bionic-tale4313 His videos have no problems

[@U.C.1180]

Oh as you go through this video all you see is a Star Wars “fan” who hates Star Wars.

[@firestriker3580]

Nope false

[@U.C.1180]

@@firestriker3580 ah yes he is. Prime example is the clone wars contradicts the prequels and the expanded universe. Well the Prequels were a contradiction to the EU as a whole. None of the EU material pre and post Prequels meshed with the movies. All those fool is is a KZbin who goes on the Fandom Menace bull shit to get the clicks and views. He is a hack.

[@U.C.1180]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God another white Knight from the troll cave? You do know that the clone wars was done by Lucasfilm prior to the Disney sale right and that it was created by George Lucas and he was an executive producer for the show? Yeah. Why don’t you back your Fandom Menace ass off and crawl back under the troll cave you crawled out of

[@ironinquisitor3656]

@@U.C.1180 Do you realize all those inconsistencies between the EU and Prequels, which there weren't that many anyways, don't exist anymore? Lucasfilm fixed all those continuity errors a LONG LONG TIME AGO. Do your research before making bold claims like this. I notice you claim this but don't list any examples of contradictions. And before you accuse me of being "Fandum Menuz" without getting to know me, no, I'm not. I hate 95% of those FM people.

[@firestriker3580]

@@U.C.1180 No he isn’t and the clone wars are complete farce. The prequels don’t contradict the CW as a whole

[@timewarpdrive77]

The reason anakin is aged up in prequel remakes is so it matches the OT. Theres a pretty apparent contradiction in the ages of obi-wan and anakin in the prequels vs the OT. According to the prequels, obi-wan is 50ish and anakin is 45ish during ANH, while they're obviously originally supposed to be much closer to 70

[@timewarpdrive77]

Luke swinging across the bridge is nothing like obi-wan and anakin swinging around mustafar lightsaber fighting... That's a bit of a reach dude, c'mon

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@timewarpdrive77 Still hating on the prequels I see!

[@timewarpdrive77]

@@BrandontheAwesome What a pathetic response

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@timewarpdrive77 Not really if it was meant to trigger you. Which it did, so I'm calling that a success.

[@timewarpdrive77]

@@BrandontheAwesome trigger me? Lmao

[@gaget5455]

I doubt prequel haters/fake fans will watch the movies again in order to understand them. Because apparently in their mind, they don’t copy the OT like they wanted it to. They aren’t that different from corporations. They don’t care what’s good for the story, the only care what the polls say. This is why we got TCW. And while yes Lucas did create it, and there are great moments that do fit within the movies, the overall series completely disconnects itself. I get that it’s a tv show and is meant to be it’s own, while still expanding on the war and it’s all based on the prequel films, but it could’ve been done better. This is why the 2003 clone wars fits perfectly with the prequels. It doesn’t disrespect Lucas’s vision. And if anyone says it does and that it contradicts the movies. They’re just idiots and only making lazy excuses because they love TCW so much. I’m not saying to hate on it, but to understand why it doesn’t fully work with the overall saga. I could’ve seen it working if one, Anakin and Obi-Wan didn’t encounter Dooku and/or Grievous, if Maul stayed dead, or if they wanted him back, kill him off towards the ending of the season or close to the last season. And with Ashoka, kill her off so that way it makes sense with the story. Because her being alive during Episode III makes 0 sense. Because she’s not even mentioned in the films. Her living pasted the OT really doesn’t make sense. This is all because of Dave Filoni’s fetish with her. He can’t let her go because if he does, then he’ll get hate for it by brain dead fans who only liked Ashoka because she’s a badass woman. I was fine with her at first, but grew annoyed with her in the end.

[@snknero9935]

Exactly right.

[@MrZackavelli]

Oh, I love this video.

[@clonetrooper2003]

It is a gem

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Same!

[@NielOogabooga]

"Only a fool thinks he knows more than the creator." Wrong! Only a fool thinks the creator is invincible and makes no mistakes and can do no wrong whatsoever. Ha! Can't shut me down!

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

I'm pretty sure the context of what I was saying was "Nobody knows more than the creator on their OWN WORK", not that the creator can't make mistakes and shit, and I was pointing out people who think they know more about Star Wars than George.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@NielOogabooga Only a fool thinks they know better than the creator.

[@NielOogabooga]

@j.j.plagiarisms7149 Yeah, well, the prequels was a mistake, and you just said that you didn't think he can't make mistakes, so ha!

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@NielOogabooga Except you have yet to prove why the prequels were a mistake. Back up what you're saying, or put your foot where your mouth is.

[@NielOogabooga]

@@BrandontheAwesome There's tons of videos that explain why

[@nicolasacosta1673]

Not a prequel hater but damn this video is pretty cringe. Like you literally said nonsense during part 6. Like wtf were you even saying there? I watched the 6 movies in order multiple times and it didn't change my opinion on the prequels. And it sounds like you hold the prequels in way too high regard. I don't think they're shit but the prequels are extremely flawed and vastly inferior to the OT.

[@yaj_5002]

What are their flaws tell me

[@nicolasacosta1673]

@@yaj_5002 Mostly the execution and direction/acting of the actors. The story is solid it was how it was executed that was poorly done. For example Anakin's turn to the dark side is unrealistic and felt extremely rushed ultimately making Anakin look like he was always a piece of shit to begin with, which undermines his redemption in ROTJ. Some of the dialogue is really bad and no the "context" doesn't make the "I don't like sand" line any better. And don't get me started on the romance between Anakin and Padme. It's extremely unrealistic and they have zero chemistry. Anakin comes off as awkward/mentally ill when talking to Padme which, if she was a real person would reject his ass immediately. On top of that he admits to murdering women and children that probably had nothing to do with his mother's kidnapping and she still goes ahead and marries him literally hours later. Either Padme has a fetish for mass murders or maybe, I don't know, maybe the writing is just shit in these movies. Please I would love to see someone actually justify the romance between Anakin and Padme. And there's plenty more examples I could present but I don't feel like writing an essay to be honest. And look I don't hate these movies, I love them. They were my childhood Star Wars movies and the reason I'm a fan to this day. But talking about them like they're more than they are comes off as extremely biased. And anyone who thinks they're as good as the OT is just wrong. It's not even a matter of opinion they're just wrong. And FYI I hate the sequels. So I'm not a sequel lover/prequel hater.

[@firestriker3580]

It isn’t cringe and stfu

[@firestriker3580]

it changed many opinions on the prequels

[@firestriker3580]

the prequels are NOT flawed and they are NOT even close to be inferior to the originals. The prequels aren’t flawed and they are vastly superior to the originals

[@dancingvalkyrie]

I mean, my main argument against the prequels is that characters are awful and stupid. The fact that The Phantom Menace can essentially be skipped with little to no consequences to your prequel viewing experience says volumes about how poorly the trilogy as a whole turned out, just like the sequels.

[@markgarrett3647]

This is a cringe and illogical defence of the Prequels btw.

[@markgarrett3647]

@YUBuliMi Calling people haters for not liking Lucasses Prequel for valid reasons despite most of them being also anxious SW fans is cringe and illogical.

[@markgarrett3647]

@YUBuliMi The video didn't prove wrong that the SW Prequels have a lot of bad script writing and plot design.

[@markgarrett3647]

@YUBuliMi And it all started when Kerschner left after ESB.

[@markgarrett3647]

@YUBuliMi ANH is actually just fine thanks to the efforts of the actors like Ford who forced changes to the sometimes cringe scripts fed to them and the editing crew that streamlined and made the plot sensible.

[@markgarrett3647]

@YUBuliMi Luke was meant to be an innocent farm boy turned rebel pilot in that movie. Bad plots: - Tatooine slavery, pod race, Padme/Anakin and medichlorian - Gungans - Battle of Naboo - Senator Padme and Anakin Naboo romance. - Anakin and Padme rescue of Shmi - Geonosis Arena battle - Palpatine rescue - Anakin Jedi Temple massacres - Anakin and Padme confrontation in Mustaffar

[@redjirachi1]

The prequels can be cheesy but I'm not lactose intolerant

[@firestriker3580]

They aren’t cheesy unlike the originals

[@akirasuzami9847]

I think the Clone Wars show is good.

[@firestriker3580]

It ain’t

[@colbywidener7092]

​@@firestriker3580It is

[@nvna1111]

Cwn u stop.yelling bro

[@clonetrooper2003]

If u fix your grammar maybe he will

[@nvna1111]

@@clonetrooper2003 sorry

[@clonetrooper2003]

@@nvna1111 its cool

[@shedshow1439]

Aww

[@clonetrooper2003]

@@shedshow1439 aww what?

[@reysolo3672]

doesn't mention the romance, the characters, the child acting, mom ditching slavery is allowed, etc. also does the same thing as OT purists by being a PQ purist. and lol god can't be questioned if so no creator can be questioned yet questions the OG...

[@gonesnake2337]

10. The 'laziness' label thrown at the CGI in the prequels is not that they used it but that is was in service of nothing. Spectacle for the sake of spectacle. A million lightsabers isn't impressive if I don't care about the story. And if you want an example of proper balance of CG and practical look no further than Guillermo Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth. 9. Critiquing a film should not be based on watching the behind the scenes and bonus content. A movie should stand up on it's own as a movie. But, consider: no filmmaker or movie studio is going to include anything truly controversial or contradictory in the extra features. All that material is vetted and controlled. 8. The context is not being disregarded when people pull lines from the prequels. These are being used as examples of how a poorly written story has lead to some very stilted dialogue. Letting the whole scene play out to see its context is not going to do the prequels any favours. 7. Slamming the Clone Wars for pandered to original trilogy fans and re-writing canon is pretty rich coming from someone trying to defend the prequels, a trilogy of films so contradictory to the spirit and established story that the filmmakers had to create special editions to erase inconsistencies. Clone Wars, Bad Batch, novels, comics, etc. may well retcon or pointlessly shoehorn in characters and concepts that reenforce or refute any Star Wars thing you happen to like or dislike. I wouldn't know. I didn't watch or read any of that stuff. What we're talking about here is the movies and if they're any good. 6. The original trilogy is held to the same standard. We know the 'Tarzan swing' is hokey (it comes up two more times in Return of the Jedi. Once with Chewbacca even doing the Tarzan yell!) and the Ewoks, and going to Toschii station to pick up some power converters. Part of the appeal of the original trilogy is it's famous marriage of what we have seen (Flash Gordon serials, dark robed villains, death-defying rope swings over deep chasms) with things we hadn't (space ships as fighter planes, top notch special effects with a very basic hero story, a space bar filled with weird creatures). We liked the 'side villains' in the original trilogy because we didn't know anything about them. We see them by their actions in the moment and how the interact and obstruct the characters we do know. The prequels came along and decided they had to give us every stupid detail about where every stupid thing came from and the sequels made it even worse. We never wanted Anakin to be a badass "just add the helmet" Darth Vader. You're missing the point. We didn't want him at all. 5. If the prequels were supposed to be the beginning of the story then why didn't they make them first? If you are going to discount the sequels because they rely on recognition of the previous films then, by that reasoning, you can only ever watch Star Wars. No Empire, no Return of the Jedi, no prequels, no Solo, no Rogue One. This is why everything beyond the original trilogy is faulted, flawed, watered down, overexplained, undercooked and not interesting. They were all made so long after the fact and rather than setting a new story with new characters in a familiar world they just keep dragging the same tired old settings and people out for stories we never wanted. 4. Oh, you are not trying to justify midichlorians are you? I'll tell you why people don't like midichlorians. The ideas the filmmakers put out there in the original trilogy are beautiful, simple and above all--get this through your thick trivia spreadsheet of a skull--UNEXPLAINED. The entire attraction of the original trilogy (and particularly the first film) was seeing ourselves in the characters and their struggles. We all want to believe we're destined for greater things, that we have a larger purpose, that adventure awaits. No one, and I mean NO ONE wants to hear "you don't have the magic blood so you're not important" and the really don't want to hear it in their escapist fantasy adventure story. 3. George Lucas is not god. Not everything he did was perfect. Not everything anyone else did with Star Wars was garbage. I don't care about who owns what. What I care about is the media being good. And ratio of good to bad has been abysmal for a long time. 2. It's a movie, you insufferable twit. Boring DOES equal bad. This is supposed to be a rollicking space adventure. Make me care about the characters then set them through some action and emotional turmoil. Senators and diplomats sitting around talking can be engaging and tense and heartbreaking but I didn't see that in these movies. Crazy space battles with mind bending visuals could be gripping if I give a shit about the situations and the people involved but I didn't see that in these movies either. Failure on two fronts. 1. Again, you seem to think it's on the audience to decipher things that are not clear in the film. This isn't stupidity or willful ignorance or pointless hate. These films were poorly conceived and didn't know their audience. These are space adventure films with simple underpinnings and emotions not documentaries on fictional political and economic systems. No one wants to watch that. Now, I'll let you in on the real secret behind Star Wars prequel, sequel, legends, expanded universe and video game hate. And this includes the original trilogy. We cannot be who we were at the time we saw them. That's why we pick them apart and pore over pointless details and niggling little acknowledgements and disavowals. Because, at one point, some version of this meant something to us. And the version you love is the version that confirms who you were and what it revealed to you about yourself at the time. There is no right or wrong. It's all opinion and objectivity doesn't enter into it.

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

10. You give no examples. You're just like "spectacle for the sake of spectacle, blah blah blah" 9. You're missing the point. Given those like RedLetterMedia and Cosmonaut's reviews are very reflective off of false assumptions of what they think "probably" happened behind the scenes and given a lot of prequel haters try to be the "Be-All End-All" of the Prequels as movies, the least they could do is see if what they claim about George Lucas and the actors is accurate. 8. Yes it is. People can't pull their heads out of their asses and assess the context of whatever scene they think is bad. 7. You give no examples to the Prequels contradicting the Original Trilogy aside from the Special Editions, which were also made by George. Listen buddy, George has every right to update HIS movies. Also to note that the start of the Special Edition changes predate the Prequel Trilogy by 2 years. Also, saying that the films contradict the "spirit" of Star Wars is that same OT Fanboy talking point. These movies don't "feel" like the Original movies which they don't have to given the Prequels are telling a different story with a different tone. I have no clue what you're going on about. Also, you have obviously never seen the Prequel Haters who desperately try to use "TCW is what people really like" narrative. I've seen it countless times in comments sections and reddit. Also I'm going to make my TCW S2 review very soon, so I'm going into more detail about why I don't like that show very well. 6. Your defense for the side villains is so pathetically weak that I had to squint when I saw it just to make sure I read that correctly. "We don't know anything about them" As for Vader, whether you wanted to see his backstory is not a flaw with the movies, I hear this a lot of OT Fanboys "We didn't want the Prequels" even though absolutely everyone was fucking hyped for the Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. As for Anakin/Darth Vader being a badass, I'm talking about it with both perspectives, with or without the Prequels. It's because you misunderstood the core character of Darth Vader that you complained about Anakin being some whiny kid and going ballistic on both the actors who played him. You thought he was a badass warrior at his core. 5. You have heard, but haven't listened. The Prequels' existence was justified because they were made integral to the story and the Sequels weren't. The Sequels are pointless extensions made with fan service as it's main selling point while the Prequels were made to be the introduction to the story, not just "3 movies of backstory" as so many people claim. Just because they weren't made first means nothing. They are still the start of the story and how the Complete Saga is meant to be watched. Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi on the other hand are justified sequels because they continue the story in a meaningful way. The Sequel Trilogy just reset the conflict to "Rebels VS. Empire" all over again, invalidating the original 6 movies. You are mistaking what I said about prioritizing Fan Service with Fan Service on it's own. 4. You obviously haven't heard of reality. We're born with certain advantages and disadvantages, and it's what we make of it that makes us great. You are ignoring key characters of Star Wars who didn't use the force, like Han Solo. Also Anakin was a character that came from nowhere. Just because he was the prophesized chosen one doesn't change that. You again, have a fundamental misunderstanding of the story (and reality) George created and your fantasy is nothing more than a delusional wet-dream. You also didn't listen to when I said Force Sensitivity was established in RETURN OF THE JEDI. You are saying the same OT Fanatical crap that J.J. Abrams expressed in interviews which showed he put his own personal experience with the movie over established continuity. 3. You weren't paying attention and missing the point. George Lucas is can make mistakes like any other filmmaker but he cannot be argued with when it comes to the story. Not how a story is presented or anything like that, just, the story, and so many people always pretend their version of Star Wars is the correct one. Nothing I say about the STORY is "my interpretation", it is based of what the original creator said. This applies to every single story and their original creator and it can only be criticized if the creator contradicts their own work (Unless they update it like George did with the Special Editions which he has every right to). Only the original creator decides what is and isn't their own creation. 2. You're not listening and missing the point. By your shallow standards, silent movies for example would be deemed bad automatically. And I also said Prequel Haters have the attention span of a goldfish, so it's not like anything that isn't screaming in your face like the Prequels would appeal to them. But that doesn't make them bad. You also don't give much reasoning. 1. "They didn't know their audience" is laughable. You saying that Star Wars is simple is the same idiocy from Cosmonaut Variety Hour all over again. It's not up to you to decide what Star Wars is or isn't. Only George Lucas can. Also your shallowness comes into play AGAIN because you act like politics are all the Prequels are, even though the political scenes go on for less than 10 minutes in all three movies combined. Now go away, I've had enough of you.

[@firestriker3580]

All of that is false and a million lightsabers are impressive. And no it was the service of everything and it WAS because they used it

[@firestriker3580]

There IS right and wrong

[@Alchemist1330]

How about this for size. There is literally only one great star wars film; episode 5. There is only one good star wars film; episode 4. The rest are not good movies. What is interesting about star wars is the setting and the world building. The films on the whole are mediocre trash. But the IP is awesome.

[@firestriker3580]

That isn’t a great star wars film. And no. The rest ARE good movies

[@firestriker3580]

The films on the whole are NOT trash stfu

[@loganveracruz6328]

The original trilogy is great. The sequels will become underappreciated masterpieces. The Prequels suck dong. The Eu is apocryphal trash fan fic garbage.

[@firestriker3580]

@@loganveracruz6328 The prequels don’t suck and they are great movies. The EU isn’t apocalyptic trash fan fic garbage unlike the sequels. Also the sequels are completely idiotic and should die off because they are complete apocalyptic garbage. Meanwhile the originals are completely overrated movies

[@loganveracruz6328]

@@firestriker3580 Keep deluding yourself soiboi Lololololol!

[@binky8843]

Challenge for prequel enjoyers: have a good taste in movies

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

That’s going to be hard given we have GREAT taste

[@GalaxyDogenut]

Challenge for commenters: Don’t resort to using, “You have bad taste.”

[@GalaxyDogenut]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God I don’t know, but sure. Sure. Sure, mint is the best ice cream flavour.

[@GalaxyDogenut]

@Ralsei Acolyte cause he is God I don’t know.

[@binky8843]

@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 cope harder

[@loganveracruz6328]

No matter which way you spin things the prequels suck. Just accept it!

[@firestriker3580]

No matter what kind of lies you want to make, the prequels do NOT suck. Accept that fact and stop coming here! He isn’t spinning things and you are nothing but a manchild.

[@loganveracruz6328]

@@firestriker3580 Keep telling yourself that soiboi. Lolololololol!

[@bionic-tale4313]

@@firestriker3580 Whoa, please calm down. Look, I understand why you hate the prequel hate bandwagon from the early 2010s, and how it effected the quality of the sequels. However you seem to be a bit overreacting in your responses to other people who hate the prequels and love the sequels. I may not agree with them, but spamming how they're wrong isn't really helping proving your points. So maybe cut down at the amount of comments you put out, and try to be a bit respectful?

[@thehealthy-man7522]

@Kenobi 🅱️ased

[@jamesrogers5184]

@@loganveracruz6328 dead wrong soyboy. It’s the sequels that suck.

[@analternatemultiverse2063]

Was this video inspired by Professor Dave's "10 challenges for flat earthers" video?

[@jonburnett90]

The big difference between the prequel and sequel trilogy is the third movie. In both cases the first two were middling and disjointed for different reasons (though I'd argue TFA + TLJ are better than TPM + AotC). Revenge of the sith was a good movie to end on, it set up the pieces for the OT well enough and had some kickass climactic battles. Rise of Skywalker was a hot mess of convenience, backtracking and lack of any real direction. So the prequel trilogy, while I would argue is still a bad fan fiction for the most part, ends strong and leaves you wanting more. The sequel trilogy (full of fan fic tropes itself) has a much.. MUCH worse last chapter and the whole trilogy suffers greatly for it.

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

But HOW are the Prequels “fan fiction” if both the Prequels and the Originals were made by George Lucas?

[@jonburnett90]

@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 ln the sense that the dialogue is not good, and the self insert character is the Mary Sue everyone accused Rey of being. Also I disagree with everything the OG artist says goes when working with a universe like star wars. Bob Kane and Bill Finger did not write the best batman stories. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote greats like Hound of the Baskerville, but he also wrote the speckled band. Lucas was a visionary world builder, but his best work (story-telling wise) was derivative of others. The prequels aren't the world's worst movies like some hardcore OT fans claim they are, but they are heavily flawed and haven't aged all that well.

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

@@jonburnett90 1. How is Anakin a Mary Sue? Explain that to me without missing vital context. 2. You counterargument concerning Bob Kane and Bill Finger is irrelevant and you're missing the point. 3. You say his story was derivative of others?? Like who? You haven't explained practically anything.

[@jonburnett90]

@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 1- OK. He is the literal chosen one with more innate power than the previously established most powerful character. He built C-3P0 and a landspeeder, wins the podrace and single handedly brings down a mini death Star. As a child. Kid's got more plot armour than Harry Potter. 2- disagree you make the argument in your video, and seeing as the prequels are very much a George Lucas product I think pointing out the OG Creators of a world aren't always it's best shepherd is fair and relevant 3- I was referring to New Hope when I said his "best storytelling". From Wookiepedia - "Lucas has said that the plot and characters in the 1958 Japanese film The Hidden Fortress, directed by Akira Kurosawa, was a major inspiration. Additionally, the film influenced Lucas to tell the story of Star Wars from the viewpoint of the humble droids, rather than a major player."

[@jonburnett90]

@Kenobi kzbin.info/www/bejne/baLGm4yaeahrbKM Looks like it's him flying out and shooting the weak point to me 🤣. I can grant maybe in his young life he's developed the engineering expertise to build them? But his piloting ability is blatantly said outright to be due to his connection to the force. The force will do whatever the plot of any given star wars story needs it to do. I'm not a "Prequels Hater", more a prequels realist. Gotta say it's amusing aswell that all the hate and vitriol levvied at the sequel trilogy now by the prequel fans, is exactly the same as that thrown at the prequel trilogy by the OT fans xD. Maybe it's a generational thing, your star wars is your star wars man. But this "attachment" to any one trilogy is very unbecoming of a Jedi ;). For me the Prequels had some kick ass laser sword fights, and a decent origin story for lord Vader (made better by the EU stuff). Also seeing Ian Mcdiarmid ham it up is a treat in every generation. Oh and Qui-Gon is a better Jedi master than Ben Kenobi ever was.