10-Day Water Fast: Stunning Results!

In December I did a 10-day water-only fast at True North Health in Santa Rosa, California. It was a great experience. (Correction, my Apo-B number came down 28%, not 16% as I said in the video.)
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[@MakeUpTraffic]

Prolonged water fasting is quite literally a miracle. Nothing comes close to it.

[@tropicaoptica]

Actually, eating mono fruit meals and no overt fat for a while has incredible benefits as well. Have to eat enough calories from fruit though.

[@MakeUpTraffic]

@@tropicaoptica Good benefits maybe. But it can never give you deep full-on autophagy.

[@erastvandoren]

​@MakeUpTraffic At 400 kcal, you get autophagy without the cortisol increase.

[@sassysandie2865]

@@tropicaopticawhat is mono fruit?

[@tropicaoptica]

@@sassysandie2865 one fruit per meal 😊 like more than one though of the same fruit to equal enough calories to call it a meal

[@sherbok4884]

Jeff, please keep making videos!! They're always so good!

[@marysavage6707]

That was a very enlightening video. As an almost vegan, I have eggs once a week from my own chickens, I too overindulged over the holidays and have been fighting to get off those 4 pounds. I’ve gone back to healthy eating but struggling to lose the weight. I’m 65 and run/weight train and sometimes you just assume that you’ll remain healthy but there’s always seems to be the need to keep tweaking our diets. I really appreciate the video, it’s such an inspiration to NOT quit!

[@thecleanveganista]

Thanks for sharing your experience. My LP(a) has been high for years and like you, I believed nothing could/would change it. Your results are encouraging! I’m going to TrueNorth in June for a 30-day water fast. I chose to wait until summer because this Floridian dislikes cold weather, and I would like to enjoy outdoor time in the courtyard. 😊

[@vegsource]

Great to hear. Make sure to track LP(a) before and after because Alan will be interested. He's starting to collect data. Good luck and have fun on that 30-day fast! Yow!

[@MrAmitdaswani]

Amazing video. I think the key part of what you said in the video is you don’t want to be average in a population where most people are dying of heart disease and cancer. Forget about average.

[@catherinezuppero7609]

Well done, Jeff! Congratulations on your great results.

[@OMADRevolution]

I appreciate the honesty, Jeff. As always, you are one of the best!

[@fruitascension5089]

I'm so glad you're back making regular videos again. I really missed you when IG deleted your account and I couldn't find you anymore.

[@michelle_cen]

Can’t wait to watch this! Thank you for recapping your fast! ❤❤❤

[@JackR772]

Surprisingly high numbers before the fast even though you have been vegan for years.

[@Julottt]

Need to eat a fruit based diet, starch and cooked plants based diet are not optimal at all. If you dont eat enough sweet fruits, you will crave sweet junk.(which are often fat also).

[@govegan562]

@@Julotttnot true

[@fruitascension5089]

​@@Julottt as a former Starch Solution eater, swiching to eating predominately fruit, and daily huge salads has really helped me eliminate cravings. Also, I had recently attended the week-long Woodstock Fruit Festival and I felt my best, with absolutely no cravings.

[@Julottt]

Well yeah, no surprise because the most sensitive taste we have in our mouth is the sweet taste not without reasons and cooked starchy foods and most green vegetables doesnt feed this need.@@fruitascension5089

[@dj-fe4ck]

100% false. I eat very little fruit now and I can easily eat very low fat and no junk food. I think every starch except for brown rice and millet tastes better than any fruit.

[@KYLE-zo4bm]

the fast turned your eyes blue! 😮

[@Galahad_Augevit]

Thanks for replying to those w/ the most obvious question of how your numbers were high on a long-term vegan starch-based diet for so long.

[@vegsource]

Just letting some less healthy vegan fare find it's way in there. But no more! Thanks.

[@sandypluss5017]

@@vegsource this answers me question above! Thanks👍👍

[@CHEFAJ]

Amazing results! Congratulations!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@juliloupe]

Thank You for sharing, Jeff. ALWAYS informative and transparent. Appreciate you.

[@saintamata1841]

Congratulations on your occasional win on your half-marathon age group! 🎉 That is wonderful!!

[@sunkeyavad6528]

*I know about another thing that can lower Lp(a): Vitamin B6* Dosage: 100mg as Pyridoxine HCl and 50mg as P5P. Lp(a) changes: 160nmol/L to 115nmol/L. This was an accidental discovery in a relative with your standard arteriosclerosis. We found studies that showed Vitamin B6, having positive effects on a variety of heart disease lab measurements. We did not know about Lp(a) being also one of them, but we already knew about Lp(a) and were measuring it as part of the usual package, which is how we found out about that.

[@subversivevegan]

Jeff, I really respect you and appreciate your sharing the details of your experience! I am in!

[@Cyd1057]

Thanks for this video, Jeff. It's very helpful to see your actual results rather than hear mere abstractions. While I have always believed the "good doctors" (McDougall, Goldhamer, Novick, Esselstyn, et.al.) the info sinks in differently for me when I see not only real numbers, but those from someone who is outwardly healthy and already living a healthy lifestyle. This has had quite an impact on me - thanks!

[@chana5770]

Thank you for sharing your experience and motivating others. Sounds like a well worthwhile experience.

[@rsully]

Thanks for such a great video and sharing your personal experience. I have been on a similar journey to get me numbers down. I have a family history of CVD, losing my father when I was just 9. (He was just 48) Unfortunately, I didn't realize the impact of diet until later in life. However, at 63 YO, with the help of low-dose statin, have lowed by cholesterol to 132 and LDL and ApoB to 70 ish. (Total cholesterol was 280+) Long journey, mostly following things I have learned from people like you, Dr Esselyton, Dr Greger . . . For what it is worth, I did add a daily does of Amla powder in the form of tea, (also occasionally add to smoothies or salad dressing) about three months ago and believe it has helped considerably to lower my cholesterol. Maybe something that could help you too, but in any case I don't see any side effects. Best to you in your journey! Ronny

[@vegsource]

Thanks for this. I have tried Amla and like it as well. I wasn't tracking my cholesterol while using it. It's made/sold by some buddies of mine, Robbie and Cyrus! Glad you are on a healthy path!

[@thegoodguyalwayswins]

Just randomly found your video and I'm currently on my 5th day of a 14 day fast. I've lost 6-8 pounds so far and the benefits are clearly there. Going to try my best to stick to an extremely healthy SOS low fat starch based Vegan diet afterwards and do more exercises in strength and cardio. I have been vegan for 12 years but do eat processed foods a lot too.

[@JaBokianism]

The only thing you forgot to mention is the cost. The cheapest room is $159 a night. You're right though. I started doing extended fast a few years back. My LDL is 84, HDL 59, triglycerides 81, total cholesterol 159, cholesterol down about 50 points in a few years, also vegan, also do OMAD, and exercise regularly

[@JaBokianism]

If you want to fast and would like support for cheap, download the life app, thousands of fellow fasters

[@andrewilliamson4926]

Good on you for sharing. Very enlightening.

[@nettierose4915]

I am curious about your diet before the fast. I thought that you ate healthfully but yet your numbers were so bad. How careful were you with your diet before the fast? Do you think the bad cholesterol and other numbers were mostly due to what you ate on Thanksgiving weekend? What are the specific dietary changes you have made post fasting? Are you eating zero salt now? How much fat? I would love a video with more details about the food.

[@vegsource]

Sure, I can do a "what I eat" before long. My diet before was pretty good, pretty basic whole food plant based - but also was not holding back on sodium - or maple syrup! :) We also have parties with friends over, and so richer vegan food might show up. So I had some bad habits of playing with some calorie dense foods. Now I'm SOS, not eating bread, really back to basics.

[@Elizerinc]

@@vegsource Would bread and maple syrup make your total cholesterol go up?

[@nettierose4915]

@@vegsource Thank you for the reply. I am looking forward to your what I eat video. I try to eat well but I could use some tips.

[@dj-fe4ck]

​@@ElizerincNo. Not if you're eating very low fat.

[@DLFfitness1]

So many follow a junk food vegan diet. Some do it consciously, while others are fooled by marketing or make restaurant food the norm. I follow a low fat vegan diet, and have to make sure I don’t lose too much weight. At 54 I don’t want to lose my muscle mass. You get your muscle from exercise, but it is hard to get it back once it’s gone. I would definitely recommend getting a yearly physical. I have an 89 year old friend that entertained alternative medicine. She created a ton of debt for herself, and wasn’t being treated for her hypertension. I had her go to a doctor. She was properly diagnosed, and is now being treated and monitored. Temporary solutions provide temporary results. Avoid junk food. Most restaurant food is junk food. Exercise should be simple but doable. Get an annual physical. People end up in nursing homes when they can’t take care of themselves. Be thankful if they have space when you need one. A lot of states don’t have availability.

[@Julottt]

Too much cooked foods is not good neither, fruit based diet is optimal for primates. If you dont eat enough sweet fruits, you will crave sweet junk.(which are often fat also)

[@vegsource]

Agree, gotta minimize/avoid restaurant food and all that. I'm starting a new phase here in my eating, as I said, which is just being a lot more careful! In terms of people ending up in nursing homes - absolutely. And it's good when people can have that. Luck does play a significant part, but the more you know and the better your habits, the luckier you may get! Cheers.

[@dj-fe4ck]

​@Julottt 100% false. I'm eating very little fruit now and I crave zero fatty foods.

[@dj-fe4ck]

​@Julottt there are high carb very low fat vegans who add cane sugar to fruit because they think the fruit is not sweet enough.

[@Julottt]

Sweet foods, not fat foods. I mean a lot of sweet foods are also fat like pastries, chocolate etc@@dj-fe4ck

[@JCarpMD]

Interesting video, nice to see you focusing on positives for a change. True North is amazing. Having Dr friends is not the same as establishing a trusting connection with a preventative cardiologist which I would say you would be wise to find. I also have a high lp(a) in your range and as a physician myself, a connection with a preventative cardiologist who understands my goals and what my limits are is invaluable.

[@vegsource]

Thanks, doc. I prefer to avoid seeing doctors and especially cardiologists. Having longtime friendships with people like McDougall and Novick, being able to share bloodwork and get helpful advice in conversations - to me is far better than what most people have. These are guys with vast clinical experience, helped thousands of tough cases. who helped my parents over decades and provided huge value… Obviously I don’t think doctors are gods with special powers. Not at all. 🤷‍♂️

[@ArtAndSoulDouglas]

Oh boy, I need to get checked out too! Thanks very much for sharing!

[@karlstenator]

Cholesterol is interesting. Pre-Plant-based - Total ~190-220, LDL ~110-140 Plant-based Total ~150-170, LDL ~80-110 Plant-based + 20mg daily Statin - Total ~110-120, LDL ~40-50 Currently talking to my doc to roll back the statin to 10mg a day, whilst continuing to eat whole foods plant based, whilst avoiding saturated fats (but not completely abstaining 🍟)

[@dolcehiett9374]

Hi, I’m a vegan with high cholesterol. Love the video, thank you.

[@Beef_it_to_be_fit]

So you eat no dietary cholesterol yet your body is making a lot of it... it is making cholesterol to protect your arteries from the damage your vegan diet is doing to them.

[@tropicaoptica]

Weight training is so important also

[@ModiJiZindabad1M]

Jainism do this from ages ago.. it's a very old tradition. Daslakshan, they observe fast for 10 days, and observe 10 life principles while fasting.

[@relaxgood5214]

Hi, I am 67 years old and have been plant based for 10 years. In the last 2 years my total cholesterol and ldl has been edging up and my doctor talked to me about statins. I told him I want to tweak my diet and see if I could change the numbers that way first. It seems that by cutting back on the nuts and seeds by 80-90% cutting back on the small amount of olive oil that I was using by the same amount and staying away from processed foods all the time instead of once and a while and instead of three meals I eat 2 good meals a day and sometimes 2 good meals and a snack the numbers are back to where they should be. As we get older we have to be a little more careful. I forgot to mention I also cut back on nut butters.

[@Elizerinc]

How much nuts/seeds were you eating before you tweaked your diet? Do you eat any soy, plant milks or flax seed? Good job tweaking your diet and avoiding statins!

[@relaxgood5214]

@@ElizerincAbout 20-30 grams per day.

[@relaxgood5214]

I went from 20-30 grams of nuts and seeds per day to about 4-5 grams per day by adding 2 teaspoons of ground flax in my oatmeal in the morning. Yes I do use plant milks like almond milk and soy milk which is organic but in small amounts. I forgot to mention that I also cut back on nut butters.

[@Elizerinc]

Thank you. So you were eating about 1/4 cup nuts/seeds per day it sounds like? What kind of processed foods did you have to stop eating? Did you use olive oil daily? Do you eat tofu?@@relaxgood5214

[@vegsource]

True true. Glad a fellow 67-year-old are having success! Good for you. Yes, I would definitely cut back (or eliminate) all overtly high fat foods, like nuts, nut butters, oils, olives, avocados, tofu, etc.

[@MaxIQ77]

Can you do some videos on your exact diet. So that we know exactly what to eat.

[@vegsource]

I will do a what I eat in a day before long.

[@crazypolishvegan7369]

Awesome Jeff 🥳🥳🥳 🌱💪🥰

[@plantsonlycindy5809]

Congratulations! 🎈Would love to see what a day of eating looks like for you on this new diet of sos free. Thank you.

[@pat557]

As a Vegan, im slowly coming to the conclusion that plant fats have to be treated as a supplement vs a food. Those of us w stubborn ApoB levels need pharmacological assistance. Genetics just are what they are...

[@ceeemm1901]

Thanks Jeff, great "food" for thought....cheers.

[@msamhori]

Jeff, thanks a lot for sharing with us this helpful information. It comes as surprise to find that your blood pressure and cholesterol is too high despite being on low fat plant based diet for many years. I do not find it reasonable that slight junk food (include bread) can make such huge different. What will happen if you switch the SAD diet? Do you believe that there could be another explanation that is nto related to diet? Is it possible to investigate these values with Dr. Mcdougall and Caldwell Esselstyn? The blood pressure might be partially explained by extra salt in the diet. I am raising this point because the plant based community believes that once we follow low fat low salt vegan diet, the cholestrol and blood pressure must be very low. Once again, I appreciate the video you share with us

[@vegsource]

I do think excess sodium probably played a significant role.

[@dj-fe4ck]

Bread is not junk food if it's vegan, oil free and preservative free.

[@RVP1955]

Hi Jeff, How did you cholesterol go up so high if you were not eating animal foods? I live in Santa Rosa. It would of been nice to say Hi to you.

[@vegsource]

Well I think my machine must be sensitive here, consuming more calories or more sugars perhaps can indirectly influence that? Sorry I missed friends in Santa Rosa!

[@user-qn6fw8fg4b]

Cholesterol isn't bad

[@karenbush5451]

This is discouraging. That someone who has been very health conscious and generally very careful for so many years could have such high numbers. It makes me feel like if you aren’t/can’t be perfect with your eating, what’s the point? Very few of us will be able to be perfect. Would like to see this subject addresed

[@vegsource]

I can talk about this more in my next video about blood tests, etc. But shouldn't be discouraging. Life goes on, sometimes we need a kick in the pants to get back on course!

[@lukemccann]

Pray the rosary

[@govegan562]

great video jeff! thanks

[@govegan562]

what do you equate your numbers being so high before the fast? do you eat more high fat than you should be? or too much sodium? i’d be curious to hear what you think it could be

[@vegsource]

Too much sodium, maybe getting carried away with maple syrup, eating mostly good food, but getting tempted into less healthful stuff. No more! :)

[@govegan562]

@@vegsource i struggle with the sodium as well! brought up my blood pressure a lot...

[@vegsource]

@@govegan562 Found some good replacements I like.

[@govegan562]

@@vegsource i’m glad you’re doing well jeff...you’re a real light in this dark world! i also respect your transparency through all this

[@donroque922]

Hi! I don't find the case reported in minute 4'30". I went to the articles of the website and the one about lean body mass of 3 cases the loose body lean mass but they don't say nothing about the 6 weeks later after... So I don't know if they actually recover the body lean mass. Or are you referring to other study? I would like to see it, thanks

[@barrymagennis8673]

Thanks for the video. Very informative. I have a question. What has happened to your blood pressure since when you done this video? Im interested in the long term results for blood pressure from a 10 day fast.

[@vegsource]

@@barrymagennis8673 Still normalized as of 8 months post-fast.

[@BarryMagennis]

@@vegsourceamazing! Did you take sodium as part of the electrolytes? If so how much per day?

[@saritakumta5958]

Amazing results ! How long do you think these results would last ? . Would you need to repeat such water fasts at regular intervals ?

[@vegsource]

I'm going to test again in three months and will make another video.

[@AmaiJanice]

What were you eating ..your daily diet BEFORE fasting?

[@davie2983]

Great video.

[@msjanicen]

Did you re-test a few months later? Did you lp(a) change?

[@vegsource]

@@msjanicen Yes, I retested in July and LP(a) was still low and didn’t go up.

[@msjanicen]

@ yay! Great news! I’m headed to TNHC in a few weeks hoping for a similar result. Thanks for sharing your N=1 experiment!

[@thegoodguyalwayswins]

@@vegsource It's still high though? As someone else posted, consider a CIMT to check your arteries, and you may need other medications to lower the LPA such as statins to lower your apoB and lpa.

[@itssammierose]

What causes the LP(a) to get high? I am WFPB no oil. I havent ever had mine tested but im very strict with zero oils. Had you been eating oils even before your thanksgiving meal?

[@shgascoi]

I would be interested in a follow-up on your Lp(a) after 4 weeks and again after 6 months. Mine is high and because of that I’ve been keeping my LDL under 50. The last test had it at 42. I was told nothing else would help but I will do all I can and if the Lp(a) stays down 6 months after a 10 day fast would be willing to try it.

[@enough425]

what do you eat to keep it down

[@vegsource]

That's great that you're keeping LDL so low. It's key, I think. I believe Dr. Esselstyn is going to do an LP(a) study of people who have been following his diet, which should be interesting. If 1 in 5 of his patients has elevated LP(a) (as is the case in the general public), and if they've been fine all these years by following his program, that suggests lifestyle definitely trumps genes here. I will be re-testing in three months and will report in another video then.

[@ianchaurero3023]

VegSource Lives ✊

[@ehendriks3328]

Hi, Jeff, I would like to know if you would follow up about your diet and fasting and if you've seen the Lp(a) continue to stay low.

[@vegsource]

@@ehendriks3328 yes I did, tested it a couple weeks ago. Still low.

[@leafbelly]

Just curious (I'm new to IF): Why is it called "water" fasting and not just "fasting"? Wouldn't it be assumed that you will have to drink water? The alternative (after about 4 days) is death, right?

[@vegsource]

There are juice fasts and different kinds of fasts. I think that's why True North Health is very specific in calling it "medically-assisted water-only fasting."

[@Atheria444]

Thanks for this video, Jeff. I probably need to go on a fast to get my stubborn blood sugar down, but I can't afford to lose weight. I'd disappear. I'm also afraid I'd lose more hair.

[@sherryzitter562]

Very thin people have done this water fast safely, many times. True North monitors BMI to be sure you are not losing muscle mass, and re-feeds everyone slowly, safely and heartily. it does take a few to several weeks to get back to your pre-fasting weight, but it can be done safely with an SOS diet including legumes, sweet potatoes, avocados and a limited daily intake of nuts and seeds, around one quarter cup. If you are interested, fill out the questionnaire and go through the free screening interview with Director Alan Goldhamer. Since and is very honest and clear, he will be able to address all of your concerns and you can make an informed decision.

[@Atheria444]

@@sherryzitter562 Thank you. I had a fellow very slim friend who did a 30 day fast in Costa Rica and she caused severe harm to her body.

[@bolbteppa]

If your total cholesterol was as low as 135 in the past (while doing McDougall properly), and then it jumped up to 252 until you did the fast, this is not explained by some genetic curse (especially because the fast brought it down to 172 so fast) you clearly just fell way off the wagon and there was likely a lot more than party food going on. The real takeaway should unfortunately be that whatever 'little' deviations there were you're forgetting about, they clearly had a massive effect no matter how minor you thought they were, at best genetics means even small amounts of bad food immediately makes your numbers jump up but constant adherence to a starch-based diet keeps things safe which is great.

[@davie2983]

Great idea, but why were your numbers so hire? Any thoughts?

[@vegsource]

@@davie2983 backsliding and not eating clean enough.

[@loveroflife1914]

Hi Jeff, does black coffee change the effect of water fasting? Is it OK?

[@vegsource]

They do not allow it at TrueNorth. I also gave up coffee last year. 🤷‍♂️

[@ppittie9747]

Just got diagnosed with long covid Afib. Terrifying. Wish I had money to go to this.

[@Julottt]

So called "long covid" is proabably more vaxxines damages.

[@JuiceFastCoach]

Just drink water x

[@ppittie9747]

@@JuiceFastCoach I’m trying my best to drink as much as I can. I was never a big drinker of anything especially water. Fingers crossed.

[@saintamata1841]

Stop getting vaxxed, perhaps.

[@popeantichrist8847]

​@@ppittie9747Yeah I drink lots of water because when you're eating you get about 20 to 30% of your water from the food you're eating so you really have to push the water

[@TheVelvetKitten]

I'm curious, what did this 15 day stay cost? With the treatment and doc visits and chiro plus massage. Was it 3-5K?

[@vegsource]

Yes. It depends on what kind of room you get, whether you get massages or chiropractic, but it ain't free. I also have links to doctors who supervise people fasting at home.

[@davie2983]

just to let people know. I and others can fast on our own. Start with small fasts and work your way up. This is not rocket science, but remember to check you BG and BP often.

[@sudd3660]

i do not like water fasts, but dry fast i like more. would be nice with a comparison between those.

[@aureliaglenn2220]

"Dry" fasting is not recommended by any fasting expert. You risk dehydration, which is nothing to play with.

[@sudd3660]

@@aureliaglenn2220 risk is part of any fasting, otherwise doctors iis not recommended to supervise, as waterfasting always do. either way,, you you can not survive dry fast then what is the point? and one of the benefit is getting the body to create its own water. you really need to shut up now.

[@Julottt]

There is no benefit in dehydrating the body and water does need any digestive process to be absorbed. Dry fasting is dangerous beyond 3-5 days. " one of the benefit is getting the body to create its own water." Very little amount because we are not xerocole animals unlike camels and others desert animals.

[@vegsource]

I don't know much about dry fasting. I expect you have to be careful about how long you can go if you become dehydrated.

[@dj-fe4ck]

​@Julottt more than 2 days without water is already dangerous. 3-5 days without water could kill you.

[@JoshuaRoevear]

Jeff, did you see that Bryan Johnson (the guy who's trying to live forever) is selling olive oil? He's even taking shots of it on his channel. Ha!

[@vegsource]

Not familiar with Bryan Johnson. Will check him out. Thanks.

[@Atheria444]

Yeah, he insists a big dose of EVOO daily is very important for his anti-aging attempt to live forever. @@vegsource

[@caulfieldmj]

I wonder how much 💰 a ‘10 day water fast’ costs🤔

[@vegsource]

Depends on what kind of room you get, if you go with other people, etc. Here's the page with info: www.healthpromoting.com/clinic-services/accommodationsfees

[@ianchaurero3023]

SOS??? Please do some future videos on this. I’ve been having some health issues and after hearing you mention SOS I’m going all in TODAY. I’m already starch based so it’s not that much of a leap.

[@subversivevegan]

If you don't already, follow Chef AJ...everything she does is SOS free...same with Nutmeg Notebook and Well Your World. Great recipes and techniques to get max flavor.

[@basicprogrammer6147]

How soon will the saggy skin around my lower belly disappear? I am on day 4, lost a lot of weight, still just as strong, but now I have a LOT of saggy skin.

[@BadmanGee7]

Hey how did this go? How long did it go

[@basicprogrammer6147]

@@BadmanGee7 The fasting went well. BUT I totally blew it on breaking the fast. You MUST be very, very careful about what you eat. I pigged out. Then, I thought I was going to die: diarrhea and vomitting for two days. So: Bone broth Wait two hours Greek yogurt Wait two hours Scrambled eggs Wait two hours See what I mean? Be careful! Other than that, the fasting worked .

[@basicprogrammer6147]

@@BadmanGee7 Also, the saggy skin started to disappear. It's pretty much gone now. I started doing a lot of planking.

[@xono9848]

They don’t give you minerals ?

[@bethany_russell]

Would you mind reviewing my book about Walter Kempner’s diet, How To Rice Diet? 🥰 Your water fasting results are incredible! Wow

[@vegsource]

Thanks, have a lot of other books to get through before doing Kempner's - but McDougall has covered him pretty extensively, on his website and in videos. Pete Rogers also has videos discussing his work. It's obviously a very effective program, though a little draconian for my tastes. Good for people with serious illness for sure, but most people don't really need to go "that far" I don't think.

[@bethany_russell]

@@vegsource okay understandable! My book is a super quick read, just the protocol and SOS free recipes. Thanks anyway, take care. ☺️

[@dj-fe4ck]

​@@bethany_russellwhy do you think sugar is bad when Walter Kempner clearly showed that it isn't?

[@bethany_russell]

@@dj-fe4ck I don’t think sugar is bad, I think it can be very therapeutic for underweight and seriously ill patients. ☺️ My recipes are based on weight-loss, and Dr. Kempner’s protocol for morbid obesity excluded tablespoons of sugar, how I lost over 100 lbs on the Rice Diet. Thanks for your comment!

[@dj-fe4ck]

@standinhope8668 cane sugar doesn't make you gain weight. There are people who lost weight and got lean eating high carb very low fat while eating over 100 grams of cane sugar a day.

[@sassysandie2865]

I’m surprised your numbers were that bad with being a vegan. No matter what I eat my cholesterol is high. (Runs high in family) I would think that a 10 day fast has temporary health benefits. If people go back to their old ways numbers are going to go back up to the previous numbers. Small amounts of salt is healthy and necessary.

[@sandypluss5017]

Incredible results! Thanks for sharing with us What do you think caused the high starting points for these numbers given you're already wfpbno? Surely it wasn't purely from the Thanksgiving meal you mentioned

[@vegsource]

Getting tempted with calories dense stuff that found its way into the house, too much sodium, pleasure trapped?

[@sandypluss5017]

@@vegsource sounds familiar! Nice reminder for us all to keep it WHOLE! Miss you on insta haha, too much truth telling. Good to see more videos here Stay well👍

[@doddsalfa]

Is the low fat plant based diet not working?😊have a nut

[@FutureLegend100]

True north sounds like an advertisement

[@mesterferenc2688]

definitely it is.

[@bellacinzia5960]

I agree with probably 90% of what you’re talking about, but I went off all plants and vegetables because of the oxalates, lectins which causes the inflammation (along with highly processed foods, of course which I don’t eat). I went on a carnivore keto diet was absolutely beautiful. What a game changer for reducing of inflammation in the body. Also, the carnivore doctors that I talk to are up to speed on the fact that high cholesterol is not caused by red meat, but in fact from sugar and being overweight along with metabolic imbalance. I’m on my third day of a water fast. I’m loving it and I have done a seven day one before I’m working up my way to 10 days, thank you for the information to my regiment

[@simonsah2619]

do we se a poo ..

[@RisingEdge111]

What about hunger on a 10 day fast? Isn't that important to mention?

[@vegsource]

Hunger disappears around the third day.

[@crystaltorres7313]

I wish i can go there but way to expensive its for rich people not poor people 😥

[@vegsource]

If you look in the description, you will see there are doctors who will supervise fasting using zoom, by remote. It is far less expensive.

[@Jasssy009]

just fast at home

[@Gonken88]

I did this involuntarily while on chemo therapy. My body consumed all my muscle mass. Stunning results!

[@vegsource]

So you basically did a fast by doing chemo? Lost a lot of weight, but a lot of muscle mass? If your photo image is any indication, looks like you got all that muscle mass back!

[@KeshabThapa-sb3is]

Today is my day 1

[@malektubaishat8]

you did it wrong way, it's not the healthy way to do water fasting. I myself do water fasting every 3 months for 5 days.

[@LiyhaaYunitaa-b3v]

saya melakukan ya 10 hari dan itu hilang 9kg 😮 kegiatan kerja dan bersih bersih rumah jalan kaki kisaran 2 jam perhari

[@apgwilym]

Jeff something weird is happening with your shorts they have nothing to do with health and everything to do with stirring up hate. Please check you haven't been hacked.

[@timothytiu1333]

Carnivorer here. Dieting works!

[@terrymanahan9586]

Jeff, please comment or do a follow up video on what you did there to keep you from feeling horrible from not eating. How do they prevent the headaches and other ill feelings that come about from fasting. Do they supplement with electrolytes? Some people really struggle with fasting for even a day.

[@sudd3660]

do dry fast instead, i find them much easier to adhere to.

[@vegsource]

First of all they recommend you quit coffee, if you're doing it (I was, and I was over-doing it!), quit it a week or two before you start the fast. So that you're not going through caffeine withdrawl while starting the fast. I didn't have any headaches or even any particularly strong hunger. Usually by the third day that all recedes. They are constantly monitoring you, taking vitals, checking on you, testing if you have any issues, and they will break some people from the fast, maybe give them broth for a few days, then resume water only. But it's very individual. I had zero problems, felt fine the whole time, a little light headed if I stood up too fast, but no headaches or problems. There were others there who DID experience a rough fast at times, and they have a lot of strategies for that, including drinking warm or hot water, rather than room temperature, and they are testing electrolytes and so on. But I've done some short fasts, this longer one fortunately was pretty much a breeze in terms of how I felt. These guys are pros though, and have seen/dealt with it all. Also, I have a friend who had done juice fasts in the past, she went to do a 10 day fast - but stopped after three days because she vomited. True North is great - there's also a fasting doc who was trained there and now lives in the LA area who does fasting work via phone, so he supervises people doing it at home, and when you have questions or need to have bloodwork ordered, he does that remote and monitors using zoom. There's a True North MD who does remote fasting, Justin Wise, MD. See: www.healthpromoting.com/clinic-services/health-services/coaching-services And the MD who was trained there and does remote fasting from Orange County is Nate Gershfeld MD. www.fastingescape.com/program-details I will do a followup in 3 months after I re-take bloodwork, and will talk about people having problems fasting and how True North helps those people.

[@terrymanahan9586]

Thanks, Jeff, excellent explanation.

[@aurelienb9109]

Water fasting is quite extreme. Have you ever tried early-time restricting eating ? Like two meals a day in a four to six hours eating window?

[@vegsource]

Sure, and they have people who are experts on that at True North as well. Time restricted eating. I know people who do that and are very happy doing it.

[@cutemartinj]

🙌

[@stan8926]

I dropped my BP from 140/90 to 105/70 in 18 months of WFPB SOS free and keep it there (started Apr 2020). Weight down from 68 kgs to 60 kgs on a 2100 cal/day , 170 cm height. Lack of salt (low Cl) can cause low stomach acid and negative effects. My lipids went down just a little (TC to 195, LDL to 115, TG went up 150-210), HbA1c from 5,8 to 5,2. Lp(a) is low 8,6 mg/dL but ApoB high 98 mg/dL (after 3 years of WFPB SOS free). Since Aug 2023 (last blood tests) next step is increase healthy fats from 30 g/day. Eliminate sweet fruits like bananas and apples. And also oats to try to get TG down. Include some salt for improving stomach acid production and avoid low BP (mornings like 95/65). Water fasts on Paleo-ish diet (no processed foods) did not prevent high BP. PS. New results - TC - 172, LDL - 100, HDL - 56, TG - 66?!?!, ApoB - 89, VitB12 - 699, BG - 91, HbA1c - 5,2%. This after adding salt, seeds, and more nuts. Eliminated oats, bananas, and generally consuming very few fruits. Calories the same.

[@vegsource]

Interesting. Sounds like you're having some great results, and then finding your way around those last few things that need to improve. You're 5'7" and 132 pounds, if I'm translating that correctly with very good BMI. Presume you exercise, avoid alcohol? You think it's the fruit raising your TG?

[@stan8926]

@@vegsource No alcohol of course. I ditched bananas and oats about 5 months ago to see the effect on TG and if TC LDL will change. And added seeds to increase fats a bit. Also started adding salt because I had problem with heartburn, throat pain, and BP would sometimes go below 100 in the mornings. I prepare all my food and I do not mind tweaking diet because I am not fancy about food. I do not exercise a lot - some walking, pushups, pullups, stationary bike, similar stuff, not nearly enough, but my calories are not so much hence the weight reduction. I read that TG can mean more calories and not enough physical work to burn them although I do not see weight gain. Complicated.

[@dj-fe4ck]

Eliminate oats to lower triglycerides?

[@stan8926]

@@dj-fe4ck I do not mind trying for a period. Not that oats are essential and irreplaceable. Anyway, that is what I read in ideas for reducing TG while eating WFPB together with increasing healthy fats (seeds, nuts) reducing calories (I have nowhere to reduce further without weight dropping more like BMI 20) increasing exercise .

[@OurBengals]

What was the all in cost for the 10 days fast?

[@vegsource]

I was there two weeks, because they want you to spend half the fasting time "refeeding" - where they supervise how you're breaking the fast. So 10 day fast plus 5 days re-feeding is 2 weeks. You leave the morning of day 15. The pricing is based on what room you get, if you share a bathroom or have your own, etc. So it varies a fair amount. Price list info here: www.healthpromoting.com/clinic-services/accommodationsfees

[@janboomstam1727]

What happens when you fast, but still eat shit ??

[@thegoodguyalwayswins]

Then you lose all the benefits of the fast shortly after. It's happened to me. You can pretty much get to the same level and benefits of a fast if you eat healthily, it will just take a lot longer, such as months or years.

[@LanaMyslyvetsPlanners]

I did my own experiments with my scale when I water fast.....if I do even small amounts of weight bearing exercises, like Chair pose, and Planks, I maintain muscle, even put on a bit once when I used rubber bands. If I go for a long walk on a water fast, I put on visceral fat-it is so bizarre, but I am a 48 female, so probably a survival thing. I love fasting it is so fun.

[@Beef_it_to_be_fit]

Heading into day 5 tonight. Trying to break record of 8 days.

[@straycatsam7963]

According to Jeff, exercise has really "nothing" to do with ❤ health. SMH

[@arl5780]

WHY EAT CRAPPY FOOD AND GO TO TRUE NORTH WHEN YOU CAN JUST SIMPLY FOLLOW ESSELSTYN’S DIET

[@vegsource]

I can’t disagree!

[@dj-fe4ck]

Esselstyn is wrong about juice being bad

[@arl5780]

NOT TRUE. HIS FAQ ON HIS WEBSITE CLEARLY EXPLAINS WHY JUICE IS BAD

[@dj-fe4ck]

@arl5780 it doesn't matter what he says, he's wrong. There is nothing wrong with juicing fruits and vegetables.

[@arl5780]

HE PROVIDED SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND JUST KEEPS SAYING WRONG

[@tropicaoptica]

Yeah definitely eat more fruit and less fat

[@lookup9078]

🎉🤺

[@90daydifference]

Why anyone would purposely lower there cholesterol is beyond me. That’s just pure insanity. Destroying yourself from the inside.

[@Julottt]

The lower LDL the better from most datas.

[@tomgoff7887]

The scientific evidence is pretty conclusive that low cholesterol as a result of genetic predisposition, a healthy diet/lifestyle. or prescription drugs delivers lower mortality and morbidity compared to higher cholesterol. The issue is confused by the fact that a number of diseases and traumas from various cancers, liver diseases, infections, Alzheimer's, sepsis, etc cause cholesterol to decline. ".... results of a recent meta-analysis10 of cause-specific mortality (including unpublished data on noncardiovascular causes of death) from 10 large cohort studies and 2 international studies that concluded that reduced serum cholesterol is not related to excess mortality among cohorts of employed individuals, whereas population-based studies did show a relationship. The investigators proposed that the discrepancy in results was probably due to a higher frequency of risk factors associated with low cholesterol, eg, alcohol abuse and ill health, in population-based study samples compared with employed cohorts." circ.ahajournals.org/content/92/9/2365.full

[@vegsource]

That's what happened. Surveys with hospital deaths shows an association with lower cholesterol levels and higher death rate. Why? Because people in the hospital dying of cancer and other conditions, don't eat much, lose weight, their cholesterol drops as they get closer to death. Hence, low cholesterol has no causative role in their death, but it's a symptom of someone very unhealthy who is on death's door. In terms of heart disease in the general population dying of heart attacks, high cholesterol is absolutely associated with higher risk of stroke, heart attack and death.