10 Games Where The C64 Kicked Nintendo's Ass

[@-GoldenThiefBugCard]

I am a retro gamer that is insanely bored of the usual suspects. This channel and others like it have completely reinvigorated my interest. The C64, ZX Spectrum, and Amiga are wonderful machines with many good games. They have broadened my tastes in games immensely.

[@oldstylegaming]

Good to hear mate

[@satan3959]

To be honest, most of the retro channels don't do anything for me, especially the ones based here in North America (PatmanQC is a rare exception, but he mostly covers arcade games, and not consoles or computers). Most of my favorite retro channels are either British or Australian.

[@Elbobelo]

I loved Skate or Die on the C64. When I tried it on the NES I felt it took a big hit.

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

I felt the same way about most, if not all of the Epyx sports games that were on the NES. IMHO California Games was probably the only decent one on the platform

[@entertainmentforall6609]

The controls on the NES were infuriating. I remember trying to snap my controllers in half playing Skate or Die when I was a kid. Never did manage to get it done. The half pipe was the worst right next to the jousting stage in the pool.

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

I think this video should get a part 2, since there are clearly more titles done better on C64 than what was already mentioned.

[@maxxdahl6062]

Yeah it was developed on C64 first, then ported everywhere else.

[@TheRealKaiProton]

I only have had Skater or Die on NES, and thought it was amazing, Im gonna look up the C64 now.

[@SmoothEmJay]

C64 was the best home computer of all time for a reason. Some people really are gigantic bell ends in this "community".

[@BigJuffer]

Hear hear mate. Some right toxic arseholes.

[@glennmk5167]

Also the highest selling microcomputers of all time as well, still holds that record today

[@gwobcke]

I do not agree the C64 was the "best home computer of all time" as that is subjective. It was certainly a very influential machine and it has a huge software catalog.

[@petetherealrelentless6542]

@@gwobcke it’s kinda not.. unless you can’t comprehend sales.

[@SmoothEmJay]

@@gwobcke maybe I should have said best selling and magically confused a lot less of you people.

[@nomadjock]

To say that the commodore 64 had no good games is totally absurd. Some of the best games of the home micro`s were about on the C64. Summer Games, Summer Games II, Winter Games, Impossible Mission in fact just about anything from Epyx was...well epic. The C64 was a launching pad for thousands of bedroom coders who then went on to create software houses of their own. Unfortunately I do not think that guy is the only one like that as well and you are right to give him no publicity. Love the vid BTW :)

[@AudieHolland]

Gunship, Silent Service, Project Stealth Fighter Just naming some Micropose titles. Oops, forgot: *Sid Meier's Pirates!*

[@sheets75]

The C64 has games like IK+, Project Firestart, Turrican, Zak McKracken, Pirates, Laser Squad, Gridrunner, Mail Order Monsters, Pool of Radiance, Paradroid, Airborne Ranger, Ultimate Wizard, Gunship, etc., etc. Anyone whose gaming experience began with the NES can be comfortably dismissed when it comes to classic PC gaming.

[@valley_robot]

I’ve always hated Nintendo games , the on,y one I can stand is Kirby

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

@@valley_robot I don't know, I do like the first Castlevania game

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

Gridrunner is OK, but the original VIC-20 version was far better. Someone should do a comparison of games better on the VIC-20 than on the C64. Gridrunner and Omega Race would certainly qualify, as would Avenger (Space Invaders clone)

[@TRONMAGNUM2099]

I had a 64C and a NES as a kid and I loved both of them. To say the 64 had no good games makes that guy look like an idiot. Turrican II and impossible mission didn't even come out on the NES. Both games I loved. Great Giana sisters is another fantastic game that was every bit as fun as Super Mario bros. I played the heck out of it. I wish you would post the name of him. I'd like to tell that guy how foolish he is.

[@Northlander72]

Don't, even if you find out who it was. It was an idiotic trolling comment that deserved exactly zero attention.

[@willeysingleton3057]

Well impossible mission did come out for nes. But again it's not that great on it nes. It's not a licensed game doesn't have a nes sticker, but did cone out in the first 3 years the nes was out. Great videos.

[@aboriginalmang]

There's Super Turrican for the NES. It doesn't look, sound, and play as good as the C64 Turrican games, even though its made by the same guy.

[@eijentwun5509]

Dont exagerate. Giana Sisters does not compare to Super Mario Bros which is a Master piece.....HOWEVER. Super Mario Bros was ported to the C64 as an exact relica taken directly from the NES version and it looks and plays fantastic even the sounds...proving the C64 can do what the NES does. If they took the time to recode it specifically for the C64 it would play even better. While I like GIana Sisters, its no Masterpiece. Best Game on the C64 especially technicalwise of the Platform kind is definitely Sam's Journey...which was sadly also ported to the NES and they made that version slightly better, but it is still superb on the C64.

[@jeffcox6539]

You missed two easy titles; Commando and Shinobi. Maybe Burger Time, Frogger, and Spy Hunter.

[@lister_of_smeg6545]

It's easy to pass judgement from the vantage point of being 30-odd years in the future - when we can all play games for both systems for free in emulators, or on real hardware using flash carts and the like. But you can't ignore the fact that BITD most C64 games could be had for under a tenner, whereas NES carts usually cost a whopping £60 quid each.

[@darkobelisk4076]

40 years :(

[@AudieHolland]

*Correction:* Nearly all C=64 games could be had for *free,* if you were fortunate enough to have the right connections (to German crackers). We did buy quite a few C=64 games though, all top notch titles like: Defender of the Crown, Gunship, Silent Service, Project Stealth Fighter, *Sid Meier's Pirates!* Why did we still buy games? Well, we just loved the great games that also came with plenty of documentation, goodies, keyboard overlays for all the different key functions in the simulators, etc.

[@LUCKO2022]

OK, I need to know which Podcast said that there is no good C64 games, I want to go to them and kick their asses in. I am from Canada and although the NES reigned supreme here, I loved my C64 and very proud of that machine. C64 4 LIFE.

[@shadowwolfmandan]

The c64 was capable of far more than was commercially released back in the day. Sonic and Super Mario have both been ported.

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

@@shadowwolfmandan True, although you need a memory expansion to run Sonic

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

Pat and Ian more than likely. Never liked those idiots. Ian, especially

[@GhostsQueen85]

AVGN maybe? 🤣🤣🤣

[@AudieHolland]

Who cares about Sonic or Super Mario? Ever heard of *Sid Meier's Pirates!*

[@WillieD7]

I don’t know if Robocop deserves to be in this list because the c64 version has a bug that makes the last levels unplayable. Might look and sound better but basically impossible to complete.

[@robbiereisman8954]

Karateka was so much better on the C64 than the NES. I liked Commando better too on the C64

[@satan3959]

I agree. Although the original Apple II version of Karateka will always be the best version to me. At least from a gameplay standpoint, anyway

[@CastleKnight7]

I had a Speccy 48k, but I always enjoyed playing the games on my friend’s C64. The sound, music and colourful chunky graphics impressed me.

[@datadavis]

Whats a speccy

[@marioalexanderski9598]

​@@datadavis ZX Spectrum

[@AudieHolland]

Quite a few games originated on the ZX Spectrum and were literally translated to the Commodore 64, including the funny colours.

[@shadedmw]

RoboCop sure looked better, but the C64 version has a bug that prevents you from passing the drug factory level. You have to use a trick to pass through walls to diminish both the path to the goal and the quantity of damage you get from enemies.

[@bitset3741]

There is a fixed version for this and Ghosts and Goblins that are amazing and very highly recommended. Google them and you should be able to find pretty easy.

[@V3ntilator]

I owned Commodore 64 in it's prime time and i could probably write a list of 100+ wonderful games on it in 5 minutes decades later. Law of the West, World Games, Bruce Lee, Nemesis, Lifeforce, The Last Ninja, Turrican, Elite, Yie Are Kung, Exploding Fist +++

[@grzegorz__]

Well, I never had NES - in my country everybody had ZX Spectrum, Atari, C64 and later Amiga. Probably that's also because of ... people being poor. We had only systems that were easily hackable. Last year I dived into the world of Retro Handhelds - RG351p, RG552 etc. I started exploring all of possible systems. At first, I was exploring consoles such as NES or Colecovision because they worked flawless. It's easier to emulate gamepad than computer with keyboard, joystick and ... cracked intros with trainers ;), that required some keyboard action. So I started exploring NES (because i knew it's 8-bit, so I kind of expected something similar to C64) and I was ... surprised, in a bad way. Of course I tried to play the titles i knew as a kid from C64 such as: - Green Beret - Commando - The Last Ninja - Ghost n Goblins - Boulder Dash Overall, it was a very bad experience. First of all - the sounds, music defined C64 games. Commando, Green Beret, Ghost n Goblins had great music, actually way ahead of it's time. NES music / sounds in these games is (to me) shockingly poor, to a degree I couldn't play these games at all. Gameplay was also very often totally different. It felt much better to play games C64 didn't have. Ie. I like (for NES): - Abadox - very nice horizontal shooter with nice music, and graphic - Little Samson - Shatterhand

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

Were there any Amstrads?

[@belstar1128]

Yea Nintendo did a bad job getting their games in different countries. most of their sales was just in japan and north America. we had the nes here but sega was more popular because they had more games and where cheaper.

[@thedddemon]

You've missed a huge one: Bubble Bobble on the C64 is a masterpiece compared to the flickering mess that is the NES version.

[@vallaurianv6024]

Sorry can’t agree with that. Up for jump will always be worse than a button for jump

[@bartoman2]

@@vallaurianv6024 in 2022 we can map up to a button...

[@fandangobrandango7864]

@@vallaurianv6024 quickly get used to it, and yeah, the NES version was a flickering mess.

[@MotherHen2012]

Yes. The C64 version is indeed a masterpiece! But now i have the theme tune stuck in my head.

[@lmcgregoruk]

@@vallaurianv6024 Well home computer Joysticks generally only had one fire button(or multiple buttons all assigned to "fire"), most games would use up to jump, and the button for FIRE, having the button be jump, and up/down be fire would be way worse. Also QAOP Space

[@MightyistheRCGamer]

A wise man once told me once you get mad you already lost

[@digitizer3627]

Even though I never owned one(I had a sinclair spectrum and a Yamaha MSX) but I always had fun playing C64 games at friends houses. I loved the music on Commando and Ghosts n Goblins... it was a great machine for its time. I later upgraded to an Amiga.

[@nellitheretrogamer8666]

It is clear here that the C64 benefited from having a much more subdued color palette than a lot of other systems at the time. Many systems had very bright colors that may work well with some games, but the C64 colors were much better in games that aimed for a sort of realistic look, such as Last Ninja 2 and Winter Games here.

[@aboriginalmang]

Not just that. Smaller tiles, bigger sprites, self modifying codes, multiplexing, no flickers, huge RAM, the C64 was the nicer system overall unless you're doing something with huge background images and really fast scrolling like Sonic. Unlike the Japanese consoles the C64 had no direct access to the cartridge data and would need some sort of a DMA addition to make Sonic happen. Someone eventually ported Sonic though, which used a RAM expansion DMA to pull it off. C64 cart games are made to be dumped or decompressed into the RAM, which did make them cheaper and more compact than NES cartridge games.

[@eijentwun5509]

Let me tell you something about the C64 color paletter most people do not realize. REMEMBER in the 80's most C64's and NES and other consoles were connected to TV's and those TV's usually through RF but nevertheless the color Bled alot...especially red. I remember what an NES looked like on a CRT... It was Flickery as hell and the color bled.....the C64 because of the slightly muted colors actually looked normal on a TV because TV's had color levels that were a bit too high....the C64 always looked better ona TV and clearer than most consoles. I think that was the intent behind the muted down colors perhaps. In emulation, NES looks unrealistically better and C64 doesn't look quite perfect.

[@colonelkomarov622]

@@eijentwun5509 in france the NES used SCART so we didn't had the RF shitty troubles

[@eijentwun5509]

@@colonelkomarov622 That is amazing. RF is utter crap.

[@diziomat4606]

@@colonelkomarov622 but here are only talking fan boys and nintendo haters :D funny to read :D

[@MrUncledarth]

What utter blasphemy! The C64 has a TON of great games. Great comparison video Paul. Glad you got to show this guy up.

[@goldenappel]

What an incredibly silly thing to say about the C64. Conservative estimates put the number of commercial C64 games at over 10,000. Even if 99% are terrible (they aren't) that would still mean 100 good games.

[@darkwing7780]

You may have missed the best part bro! Nintendo games were expensive as heck... While anyone with a Commodore 64 could trade or copy disks/tapes with their friends. And let's not forget about hooking up a modem and calling BBS's... Where you could download more games :) Even if you weren't into 'copying', how about those coverdisks/tapes loaded with freebies? The NES may have had an extra button and a few more colors, but unless you were rich, good luck building up a nice collection of games. I couldn't even afford a PC with a color monitor until I got a job at 17, so the Commodore 64 and Amiga saved the day on a budget. Love the channel, keep up the good work bud!

[@AudieHolland]

Living in The Netherlands at the time, we found out how big (enormous, giant) the Commodore 64's fanbase was after we got one. Someone, literally someone I knew from school, casually mentioned, 'So I heard you got a Commodore 64? Well, I may get you some games...' Every two or three weeks, we would receive a tape chock full of games! Free to copy and some were even 'trained' by the wonderful German crackers who distributed them. For free! I also learned that a girl I knew from school, her mother owned a pawn shop and that she was also into games... Without even speaking to the girl about her mother, I went to the shop, looked around a bit, then approached the shop owner. "Pardon me M'am, but do you have games for the C=64?" She looked rather suspicious at my frank and direct question. Next she shoved an audio cassette in my direction. 'Bring it back asap.' So I took it home and yes! More games. I especially remember that Dino Eggs was on this tape and I have fond memories of that game.

[@TheHobbyLodge]

Excellent video, the C64 was and is a system I will always love! thanks for fighting the good fight!

[@chriswheatley3146]

M.U.L.E. is one of my favorite games on the C64. The Atari 800 version is pretty good as well. I tried the NES version. Meh was about the best I could say about it in comparison as it never felt or played right.

[@markdale1]

Silkworm was a game I also thought completely kicked the A$$ of the NES (C64 version was potentially the best port out of all the ports). Platoon was worth a shout too

[@glennmk5167]

Amiga version of Silkworm is the ultimate.....better then the arcade version

[@oldstylegaming]

@@glennmk5167 true that mate

[@baldbadass]

Silkworm 2 player with one in the jeep and the other in a helicopter was the best thing ever.

[@satan3959]

No, the Amiga port is king. Although I will agree, that the C64 version is still miles ahead of the NES version

[@diziomat4606]

the amiga version was far better but ok you are a fanboy :D

[@MudSluggerBP]

I could spend the rest of my life playing C64 while using a NES to take a shit in.

[@eskey691]

Well you hit the nail on the head with the 10 games in the video and i will go as far to say the C64 has the sid chip need i say more. An yeah you are right there are great games on both systems but the biggest let down for me with the nes was the controller i know a lot of people like it but for me it just felt crap😂 Great stuff as always buddy and roll on the next one, until then take it easy🙂

[@aboriginalmang]

The C64's biggest letdown for me, aside from the one button joystick when it should've had at least two, are the slow floppy drive and the scarcity of cartridge games. The load time sucks and really hinders the wonderful RPGs it has such as Wasteland.

[@ianbraun271]

Umm... Sudden Instant Death? Maybe you need say more. lol. Not everyone has played C64, or knows anything about it.

[@willeysingleton3057]

Love the C64 Ghost Busters, hell you can save a bank account on that version and buy a nicer car. Was one of my favorites in 88, the c64 was my first system, and kept me entertained for along time before I even heard about the Nes.

[@LPetal86]

I never had a C64 growing up so these games are foreign to me but learning about games like _The Last Ninja_ trilogy and _Project Firestart_ have been a real treat here on KZbin. It's baffling that someone would spout such an ignorant opinion about a console without even trying it!

[@20thcenturygamingc64]

C64 I salute you. And nothing else will come close, ever. Well defended lad.

[@SEGAZombie]

After that certain podcast I've been waiting for this Video 😂 You know I'm a speccy fan boy as that's what I grew with, but I have loads of appreciation for the C64 so me absolutely fantastic games I didn't admit to bitd lol and I'm discovering so many more games I've never played before I also like the NES but for me the 8 bit micros library is far more appealing great video OSG and a couple more C6R games to add to the must play list

[@Vindicator18]

I really want to hear this podcast. Who was it?

[@TRONMAGNUM2099]

yes please I want a name

[@goatbone]

No coincidence that most of these NES games didn't get PAL releases.

[@stimorolication9480]

The Last Ninja games on C64 were such impressive games that I envyed as an Atari ST owner at the time (before I switched to Amiga 500). Another one where the C64 had the best version of them all was NARC. Both systems have great libraries, and in most cases I find that games are best on their original platform. When NES ports really shine they are often so different from the original that it is almost a different game.

[@stonecoldpes6]

Gremlins 2 , super off road , Rtype, Back to the future2 , Slap fight, Ghostbusters 1 ,2 and Real , indiana jones last crusade, rick dangerous 1 and 2 , Robocop ,navy seals , new zealand story , THEY all destroy the Nes and there are many more!!

[@consty715]

Exploding fist, when evercade released it recently I couldn’t believe how crap it is on NES i know it was a demo, but still

[@dangrise6182]

This was a really good topic and your examples were spot on. I forgot how good the C64 port of Yie Ar Kung Fu was. I loved that game.

[@TokyoXtreme]

Great music, extremely responsive, highly replayable, huge moveset, and awesome sound design. Also the C-64 version is better than the arcade!

[@freddiejohnson6137]

Personally I would never include Robocop on a list of games that are better than ones on other systems since it was made to be overly difficult in places so you couldn't progress past a certain point because it was broken and unbeatable essentially. For that reason alone it's worse than pretty much every other version.

[@oldstylegaming]

Its fixed now though

[@freddiejohnson6137]

@@oldstylegaming yes but a long time later and should have been recalled at the time by Ocean and fixed. If a fixed version for that game counts as making it better then other versions then the remaster Ghostbusters on the NES should also count. Just my opinion there.

[@eol6632]

I had this game for C64 when it came out. It being fixed now doesn't make it acceptable. I liked the game but no game should be released like that then or now.

[@interlace84]

Let's not forget Maniac Mansion and all of the point&click adventure genre as a whole not getting (properly) represented on the NES whatsoever! Can't beat a nice round of Turrican 1/2 either :)

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

Pretty much any flight simulator was also pretty crap on the NES (the NES port of Elite comes to my mind), although in the NES defence , that was more to do with the NES controller not being practical for those kinds of games than the actual system itself

[@Earths1stgamer]

I went from an Atari 2600 right to the Atari 400 in 1982 so i never had a C64 but the 64 for 1982 has real nice graphics and the game library is pretty good i did an NES vs 7800 comparison on Winter Games and i think the 7800 won that one also good video i enjoyed it alot good luck on your channel.

[@TheSudsy]

As a Spectrum owner in the 80's obviously you know where my loyalties lie....however my mate had a C64 and to say there were no good games is clickbait or just plain dumbassness. Paradroid was in my opinion the best C64 game (at the time we had them). i used to mither him to put it on, and Kickstart (dee,deee,dee,dah dahah.dahdahdah) or summer games or winter games or hypersports ........... utter bollox.

[@m.a.packer5450]

when I was a kid, I went to a friend's house to see his copy of last ninja. his mom walked in when we were looking in the women's restroom, and she flipped out hard, yelling at me to go home and yelling at her son for "playing such a disgusting game." in her head, you were playing as a pervert in a park, scoping out the girls' restroom

[@turrican4d599]

🤣

[@chookskapow]

For me, the Gameboy Robocop is the best version of the game outside of the arcade. I’m serious, it’s an outstanding port and captures the gameplay.

[@oldstylegaming]

The gameboy version is exceptionally good

[@scottythegreat1]

The NES version of Pirates! Is missing. Great game on both systems, but the random generated fort attacks and unpredictable fencing makes a difference. Rare left in the initial fencing battle before you start the game, and it was in computer versions for preventing illegal copies of the game that didn't have the treasure fleet and silver train information needed to prove you had a legitimate copy of the game.

[@t-max7261]

Ah, makes sense now- I obviously had an illegal version, but somewhere in there was a program that you could load that would tell you the Silver Train and Treasure Fleet dates, which I didn’t know about for the longest time. That said, you could still win the initial fencing battle, but if you got the question wrong, it still said that you lost and you had to start the game basically destitute, with all countries hostile to you, next to no crew, a crap reputation and only a sloop in your fleet. You could eventually overcome these disadvantages, but it took a good year or two to do so and even then, some countries still chose to dislike you for whatever reason. I remember randomly getting the question right a couple of times and it was such a difference- almost like a cheat code! Pirates was probably my favourite C64 game- I spent hours and hours playing it as a kid

[@triplestar100]

whoever said such malarkey had never played C64 gems like its version of "Weird Dreams", "Aztec Challenge" and the original "Great Gianna Sisters"! as to a C64 game that thoroughly mops the floor with its NES/Famicom counterpart in my humblest opinion? "Rambo: First Blood"! sure, they are completely different games one from the other, but as shown on this vid so were the versions of "RoboCop"; and while Rambo's NES game is a confusing, labrynth mess, the C64 one's everything a teen of the mid-to-late 80's would want in a Rambo game: guns galore, explosions from everything from tipped arrows to RPG launchers, rescuing POWs while facing the Russian war machines... what's not to love!

[@paulweiser6350]

Another good comparison would be Spy vs. Spy. I remember buying it at Target, and I got games one and two for C64 and almost half the price of the NES version, which only had the first. Graphics hugely different.

[@RETROCENGO]

Brilliant video. Instant thumbs up, from the get go I was thinking, hope robocop is included. Robo was superior and don’t get med started on the music. One of the best versions ever

[@MyRetroLife]

Hey man saw you on the Creators discord and had to check you out. This is great! Instant sub!

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate, ill check yours out too when i get back from football

[@TheRealMirCat]

Could you imagine trying to play Neuromancer, Wasteland, or Battletech on the Nintendo? Then there's Red Storm Rising which used almost all the keys on the keyboard.

[@grymmjack]

They did try with ultima. But yeah I hear you man. Wasteland!

[@wongojack]

I LOVED Red Storm Rising. Nobody talks about it, but I think it is one of the best Microprose games ever.

[@johnatkinson1039]

I never owned a C64 or NES but my problem with 80s home computers (having played C64 at a friend's house) was waiting ages for the game to load. I've always loved the plug in and play that consoles allowed.

[@LUCKO2022]

I say Maniac Mansion on the C64 is better than the NES version.

[@oldstylegaming]

Defo

[@adultmoshifan87]

Isn’t Robocop that game where they made a level in the C64 version impossible to hide that they couldn’t be bothered to program the rest of the game?

[@oldstylegaming]

Yes and no... yes they made it deliberately hard but not cos they couldn't be bothered, it was coded but had a massive graphical glitch that if they had tried to sort probably would have resulted in the game missing the golden window of being released along side other versions and the movie. Its actually just one level that was effected

[@gumdeo]

The mighty Commodore 64 laughs at the trolls.

[@SaintDomingo1]

Loved hearing you getting so wound up by these idiots. I loved my og C64. It was my childhood. I also had a C16. I was only very little when I had that though.

[@jamesb4263]

I really can't put my finger on it but the c64 often had better game play than even Amiga and St

[@jamesb4263]

I think it's because the c64 still had an Army of developers that focused on game play where the 32 bit developers focused on graphics .

[@jpjokela1]

Kind of shocked that you didn't list: Ikari Warriors Nebulus (Castelian on NES) Cybernoid (music...) Every Ultima series game on the NES Also, if Famicom exclusives are ok too, then Law of the West definitely.

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

The Bard's Tale was also far better on the C64, and don't even get me started on pretty much every flight simulator on the NES

[@neophytealpha]

Way of the Exploding Fist. Bruce Lee. Championship Lode Runner. Elevator Action

[@robertespley248]

Aw man this is a great flashback to my childhood. I have hugely fond memories of ..... Turrican, Last Ninja, Armourlite,Robocop 2( cart version), Creatures , Rainbow Island to just name a few. Happy memories .....and now I come to think of it I never did finish Last Ninja 3 . Dammit 🙁

[@LordmonkeyTRM]

You love to see it! OSG days away from 35k subs. ♥️ Hope you're okay buddy. Top video as per...

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks hope you are good too mate long time no see

[@LordmonkeyTRM]

@@oldstylegaming Yeah man doing well ta.

[@fionagibson3314]

C64 was better graphics and sound, they also had others where you had to use the keyboard, d pads and two buttons, just doesn't cut it.

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

For music the C64 was amazing. Sound effects were often meh TBH. Preferred the VIC-20 as far as sound effects are concerned

[@SuperJim]

Some proper goons out there mate. Keep fighting the good fight. Your channel actually contains content. And I love it ♥️

[@mrtoon4197]

To say there is nothing good to play on the c64 is crazy,there is a ton a excellent games on the c64 to play.

[@nerdygeezer78]

Cracking vid mate..... totally agree that these where better on the C64 hands down. That comment on that podcast was just laughable

[@purplehaze2342]

Dragon Ninja and shinobi are two that spring to mind for me

[@thecoolestrecyclers5828]

How is that you didn't include TURRICAN??!! An absolute masterpiece

[@oldstylegaming]

Cos Super Turrican on the NES isnt a port of the c64 turrican, its a mix of turrican 1 and 2 so cant really compare them

[@ichbins8588]

"Defender Of The Crown" - C64 version was even better than the Amiga version! For sure, the Amiga version looked nicer, but, it was sobering to detect it lacked some gameplay options (I remember there was no strategic map any more)

[@Simon0]

Interesting video. I was a c64 owner. I think in general nes looks like a cool system too. Anyway thanks for the video

[@vallaurianv6024]

Great video. I loved my C64 growing up but have to be honest was jealous of my mate’s NES. To be fair that wasn’t comparing ports of the same games but based on Mario, Mario 3, Castlevania, Castlevania 3, Turtles arcade and Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers.

[@sethreichenbach1444]

C 64 had so many good games. A few of my favorites are. Pole position, super huey, howard the duck, train, barbarian, high noon Ghostbusters. I could go on and on.

[@eol6632]

Predator on C64 was better than the NES port. Caveman Games was better on C64 as well. Not sure if Ace of Aces had a Nintendo port but the C64 version was pretty good

[@belstar1128]

Predator was a bad game on all systems.

[@jameslocke1416]

Maniac Mansion was one of my favorites on the C64. But when I played it on the NES, I couldn’t believe how bad it was. The music and sound effects were horrible, and the controls were a nightmare in comparison. Why did they even bother?

[@kicksex]

I was always so disappointed in the NES Ghostbusters compared to the C64 Version. It didn’t even come close. The c64 was a superior machine in so many ways. But where I grew up, more people had Nintendos so that’s what I ended up playing the most

[@jeffr23817]

You mentioned the AVGN episode of Last Ninja, but you didn't talk about his episode for Winter Games.... That is by far one of my most favorite AVGN episodes!!! It's SO fucking hilarious!

[@bcleary2000]

defender of the crown's shadows on the C64 were impressive to see vs the the NES

[@patsfan4life]

C64 was the best version….

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

@@patsfan4life It was good, but personally I think the original ST version was the best. The NES and Amiga versions were mediocre at best

[@GenerationPixel]

Cracking video mate, thoroughly enjoyed that 😎👍

[@KorenLesthe]

Nice list ^^. If you want a game where even the Amstrad CPC beat the NES, it’s Ikari Warriors :).

[@satan3959]

To be honest, even the C64 version (European version, not the shitty US version) of Ikari Warriors beats the NES version. Not a fan of the NES version at all.

[@DGrann]

nobody mentions Maniac Mansion, the NES version is censored, music and sounds are bad and graphic sub par. C64 is superior in every way on NES except for the controler IMO

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

I absolutely think there are great C64 games. but I can understand why someone who is an NES fan first wouldn't think so. The C64 and the the NES aren't very comparable, with the NES quite frankly a generation ahead of it. The C64 much more closely compares to the like the Atari 2600, Intellivison, Colecovision, and so on. An eight way joystick with a single fire button limits what you can do, as does the playfield resolution of the C64., maximum colors, number of sprites, even CPU speed. The NES also has access to all of the cartridge based expansion chips built into the various mappers to further agument the platform. So instead of someone comparing the C64 to the NES, I would instead redirect them to compare the C64 to the Arari 8-bit, the 5200, the 2600, and so on.

[@Zhixalom]

The C64 still to this day, holds the record of the most sold model (as in same circuit design) of home computer EVER! This also means that, if you were to count the games from all the other home micros and gaming consoles from the '70s up through the '80s and '90s (yes; including the other Commodores, Sinclairs, Amstrads, Ataris, Nintendos, Segas, and even the Sony PlayStation, etc. etc.) and then sum up all the totals... the C64's game-library would still be bigger. So, even if you know absolutely nothing about the C64, you should be able to deduct, from a sheer statistical point of view, that at least some of them have to be good, if not great or even awesome. That is unless of course, your brain only consists of 2 neurons, were one is in a wheelchair and the other one stubbornly refuses to push.

[@timoheinonen9570]

If you count the games from all the other home computers and consoles, the Commodore C64 is not even close to that. In fact most likely ZX Spectrum alone has bigger library of games than the C64. While Commodore C64 was the most sold computer, no one really knows how many ZX Spectrum compatible computers exists, including unofficial and self made clones were made in total. I am only one person and I have about 16 working ZX Spectrum clones. Lots of people were building ZX Spectrums, and still do to this day and none were making C64.

[@Spelter]

I miss the time playing winter and summer games with my brother. Now, 30 years later, I would ask him for another competition if he would be still around. And the NES was always inferior to the C64, but it had its pros, so both platforms are awesome

[@SNARC15]

That fanboy sounds like those who make the lie about how Xbox has no games. Fanboys. Fanboys never change.

[@babylemonade2868]

I preferred my C64 but my friend had a Nintendo and I loved that too. Also loved uridium

[@AudieHolland]

Raid on Bungeling Bay was created by Will Wright. While working on the game, it gave him ideas that led to creating another game. Sim City.

[@michaelhill6453]

Any disc-only game will win the battle over NES. Take a peak at Bards' Tale or Pool of Radiance.

[@JimmyBackbeat]

I played a lot of Outrun on the C64. Ninja, Park Patrol and Blue Max too. Rambo, California Games and Pit Stopp II G.A.C.C.R.R and Fist. There was a lot of fun times that I had on that machine. Though we only had the tape deck so the load times did seem rough compared to NES

[@funnylumpy]

Nice comparison. I played all the ones in c64 you listed but only a few on the nes. Ty for the upload.

[@TeeVeeGames]

It's easy to say that the c64 is nothing but crap because there was a tidal wave of games that came out for the machine, made with wildly different levels of competence. But when the C64 shines, it really, really shines. And there are plenty of games I still enjoy, even today. Also, for some reason C64 (or any 8-bit computer) games almost always translated poorly to the NES. Something like Skate or Die always seemed out of place as a Nintendo game pak rather than a floppy disk, and infinitely less fun.

[@rcchronicles25]

Thank you for saving the c64s rep! 👌 Great list osg

[@milthyswinbuckle5158]

Claiming that there are no good games on the C64 makes less sense than claiming that being kicked in the balls repeatedly is good for you!

[@pelimies1818]

Winter Games is on my Top10 C64 also. For me, as a Finn, how could it not be..

[@robvegas9354]

Far out! It takes a special effort to mess up Boulder Dash. A real C64 classic that!!!

[@EpicLebaneseNerd]

i recently found one of my old computer games magazines and in it is a poster of the MYTH and it looked so good that i had to take out that page and hang it on the wall, i think it is drawn by the same person that made golden axe posters....it was much later in life that i know Myth was buchered into the conan game and that even this game was different on other platforms.

[@ThunderFist1978]

The Famicom version of Yie-Ar Kung Fu seems to be based on the MSX port, or else the other way around.

[@313Games]

All hail the C64! It will forever be my first and favourite machine!

[@harleykade3827]

If Last Ninja 2 got you to laugh at AVGN, his Winter Games episode will be gold.

[@oldstylegaming]

Ill check that out

[@TheEman590]

@@oldstylegaming I've been a a fan of AVGN since his Bugs Bunny episode. He's always been hilarious. I remember having Winter Games on NES. Not a great port for a system that gave us Metroid, Mega Man/Rockman, Ninja Gaiden, Final Fantasy, Legend of Zelda, Castlevania, and some fun Disney games.

[@a.calder8217]

Some more games better on the C64 than on the NES: * Ghosts n' Goblins: The NES version's a typical Micronics port, with tons of flicker, clunky physics, bad music and bugs such as not being able to complete level 4 sometimes. While the C64 version doesn't have all the levels (at least, not until Nostalgia's updated version), it plays a lot better and is a lot fairer than the NES version, which is near impossible. * Ikari Warriors: Yet another one I'm surprised you missed. The NES version is yet another crap port by Micronics, with slow movement speeds and an awkward turning system to replicate the rotary joystick of the arcade, making the game a total slog. (See the AVGN's review for more) The European C64 version is a much smoother experience with turning more similar to Commando (both the NES and C64 versions are excellent), while still providing a challenge. * 1942: The C64 version has music that doesn't make you want to rip out your ears like the NES version, so it's infinitely better by default. * Pac-Land: The NES version has tiny graphics and a difficult to understand control scheme where the A and B buttons move Pac-Man and the D-Pad makes you jump. The C64 version has much better graphics, the controls are a lot more intuitive and the speed is much faster. * Winter Games: The NES version only has four events and the controls are near-impossible. The C64 version has seven events and has much easier controls (by joystick waggling sports game standards) And now, a list of games better on the NES than on the C64: * Kung Fu (Kung Fu Master) (The C64 game is good, but the NES version is very fluid and tons of fun) * Castlevania * Metal Gear (still nowhere near the MSX2 original, but a lot better than the C64) * Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (the first one, the coin-op is good on both) * Karnov (at least the NES version wasn't a port from an inferior system like the C64 version) * Double Dragon * Contra/Gryzor * Mario Bros. * Top Gun (the NES game isn't great (the plane landing sequence is near impossible), but it's Shakespeare compared to Ocean's game) * Athena (Yeah, the C64 version's in monochrome, but the NES version is by Micronics and is near unplayable) * Cosmo Police Galivan * Guerilla War * Mag Max * Nemesis/Gradius * 1943 * Gun.Smoke * Rolling Thunder * Xevious

[@joshuaausel9591]

Another big one where C64 crushed the nes is Archon; graphics, gameplay, audio, Archon for the C64 is far superior

[@Stephen_Eee]

I loved that the wii had a decent c64 selection.

[@Aeduo]

He is a robot. He is a cooooop. He is a robocoooooooop.

[@inphanta]

I don’t know who this person was, but he was clearly courting controversy for clicks, which is pretty childish. Anyway this was a good roundup. Both were good systems but served very different purposes. Arguably even worse that saying the C64 had no good games, I’ve heard people try to argue that the NES’ audio capabilities are superior to the SID which is insane to me. That’s not to say there isn’t cracking music on the NES (of course there is), but it doesn’t come close to the SID. Fanboys are a strange bunch…

[@Dorelaxen]

Sounds like something Pat the NES Punk would say. The guy oozes ignorance.