oh you dont wanna start nothing with the Zzoolinguist, you'll be surprised how ugly it gets edit: guys please stop calling me ugly thats not what o meant
@cool-person11613 ай бұрын
hi
@ieats0cks3 ай бұрын
no way…
@Hiljaa_3 ай бұрын
Oh my god its THE etymology nerd
@schnargleton253 ай бұрын
Bird
@yveltheyveltal51663 ай бұрын
i thought this would be 10 different recordings all layered on top of one another
@vampyricon70263 ай бұрын
>at once >posts video that's not at once i was cheated
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
It's not? Oh shoot, this is why I need to watch my videos before I publish them.
@Kokice53 ай бұрын
@@zzineohp But seriously, you should make an alternative video with all of them layered. (possibly adjust the speeds of the videos)
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
"But what about Octopodes?" - Someone who is very, very, intelligent. In fact, we should all just give up because they are clearly the exarch of linguistics and all knowledge flows from them.
@ashlaskash3 ай бұрын
Some potential solutions to the "pluralizing octopus" problem: 1. Stop using the word "octopus" altogether. Simply call them "cephalopods" or if necessary "eight-armed cephalopods". 2. In the plural, only ever use "octopus" as an attributive noun, in a construction like "octopus molluscs" or whatever. 3. Replace the word for "octopus" with a calque or loan of its translation into another language. Afrikaans says "seekat" for "octopus" which means "sea cat". Norwegian says "blekksprut" for "cephalopod" which means "ink-squirt". I'm personally in favor of Anglicizing the Norwegian word into "blecksproot" because it sounds funny. 4. Replace the word "octopus" with "inkfish", by narrowing the meaning. 5. Have the plural of "octopus" be the same as the singular, just like "sheep". 6. In writing pluralize octopus as "octop____" and let the reader fill in thons preferred plural ending. I suppose in speech this would be realized as "octop" followed by mouthing that to a lipreader can be interpreted as either "-i", "-uses", or "-odes", though I guess the stress still gives away whether you prefer "octopodes" or "octopuses/octopi". 7. Pluralize "octopus" in any number of counterintuitive and profoundly silly ways which change each time you use the word. Octopees. Octopussen. Supotco. Octopingpangwallawallabingbang. 8. Use "octopodes" as the plural but be contractually obligated to pause for an uncomfortably long time after saying it, before firmly stating, "octopoDEEZ NUTS"
@applesauce78433 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw the ending, I said to myself in the nerdiest, most annoying prescriptivist voice I coild think of, "WhAt AbOuT oCtOpOdEs," because I already know that this is now your most controversial take for people who say that English has a future tense.
@I_Love_Learning3 ай бұрын
I am in a constant struggle between using octopodes because it sounds the best and using octopuses because octopi makes no sense.
@crusatyr14523 ай бұрын
OCTOPODEEZ NUTZ
@90hamg153 ай бұрын
I've just taken to saying octopideposes to make everyone happy and / or upset
@zhemedick3 ай бұрын
6:44 Quick correction. In spanish, agua is a gramatically feminine word but the article used for it is the gramatical masculine. The sentence "El agua es buena" (The (masculine) water is good (feminine)) is a good example of this. The explanation behind this is that "el agua" sounds better than "la agua." That's it.
@holaliceanos3 ай бұрын
article* (el pronombre sigue siendo femenino: “el agua mía” y no “el agua mío”). buen comentario
@zhemedick3 ай бұрын
@@holaliceanos Perdón, se me olvidan los nombres xd gracias por la corrección
@thenatron6136Ай бұрын
*Throws chair*
@blew1t3 ай бұрын
6:39 This is one of the best things to understand about languages. No languages are “more complicated”, any complication arises to express ideas more efficiently
@dr.seesaw88943 ай бұрын
2:19 I remember first learning to read greek and finding how using (the Latin equivalents) of nt and mp to represent /d/ and /b/ was quite clever since you're just putting a voiced nasal in the same place of articulation as the following voiceless plosives to make them into the voiced counterparts
@selladore49113 ай бұрын
right! also how the voicing on the z in τζ spreads backwards. the only one i have a problem with is γχ. where does the n sound come from in Συγχαρητήρια
@deadheat16353 ай бұрын
So PIE really only has animate-inanimate distinction but thought it would be funny to call animate things male and inanimate things female, leaving its descendents with this confusing system for people to get offended at in the modern day?
@nikitakrim023 ай бұрын
Man, englishmen are so wierd... What's offensive about grammatical gender.....?
@Just_A_Banana3 ай бұрын
@@nikitakrim02 Well it's kinda calling men animate and women inanimate
@nikitakrim023 ай бұрын
@@Just_A_Banana no. Women were clearly animate before this distinction, and still were as "animate" after - that is, their animacy level, as persons, did not decrease - they are still as likely to be subjects and objects as men/objects of masculine gender. By assessing it this way you commit an anteopological folly and show your inner unbased eurocentric assumptions about prehistoric societies.
@Just_A_Banana3 ай бұрын
@@nikitakrim02 Jesus christ chill out I just said what it sounds like
@Hambrack3 ай бұрын
To answer the original question: no. PIE's feminine is thought to come from the neuter plural, probably as some sort of collective. Remnants of this remain in language such as Latin, where masculine nominative for, say, adjectives has -us -ī (sing. and plural, respectively), neutral has -um and -a, and feminine -a and -ae. However, it's important to note that many PIE feminine words don't end in the -eh2. A lot of -i stem and consonant stem words are feminine. To give an example from Latin again, Juno is a female goddess, and her name is a consonant (specifically -n) stem word. Nominative Iūnō, Accusative Iūnōnem. TL;DR: At its earliest possibly reconstructible stage, PIE had just an animate-inanimate distinction. A feminine form got added at some point, probably deriving from the old neuter plural.
@Poopick3 ай бұрын
The presentation was very nice, thanks for the lesson I liked the drag part, it showed how evolution of a word could cause such a vast variaties of words just in one language by borrowing from cousin languages. I wished there was ipa, but it was still very readable, so thanks for adding some sort of phonetic transcription, it helped a lot.
@friendly_sitie3 ай бұрын
watching this video caused me to become enshrouded in a wandering horde of prognostic flies thanks, zizneohatshepsut, your videos never fail to scry my fate!
@csolisr3 ай бұрын
Tired: where does the "singular they" come from Wired: was it always accompanied by the "singular are"?
@mew2knight3373 ай бұрын
5:53 can you tell me whathidden country is located between France and Italy? 😂😂
@columbus8myhw3 ай бұрын
Megamonaco
@rideorhitchhike33473 ай бұрын
Expected 10 linguistic videos to play at the same time, disappointed.
@Kallamington3 ай бұрын
at 2:20 i couldnt help but notice you pronouncing 'Maori' as 'May-oori' Just thought I'd let you know it's correct pronounciation is similar to the word 'Mouldy' just with a rolled r :) - Polynesian girl thats kind of into linguistics
@actualgetawaycar2 ай бұрын
it almost definitely varies by dialect and speaker, but the standard Māori pronunciation for the word Māori is /maːɔɾi/, which is quite similar to how he said it and has different vowels to "mouldy" (again, this is just in the standard form, obviously different dialects will pronounce it differently so im not saying youre saying it wrong im just saying hes not that far off *a* correct pronunciation). Also, using a rolled R, while correct, isnt really necessary while speaking english, cause most English dialects don't have it, and you can't expect people to be able to pronounce every sound of every language, so using the regular english R, as different of a sound as it is, is perfectly acceptable, just like how Mandarin uses L to replace it since they have no rhotic sound. That said, saying Māori like ~"mouldy" is the standard english pronunciation, while what he said for ao is closer to the real Māori pronunciation, so it is a bit weird that he mixed a decent approximation of the vowels (although he did a long ō instead of a short o), with the English R, mixing the native and loaned pronunciations
@lyrasfsfsfsfsfs3 ай бұрын
small correction at 2:32 - welsh uses u to represent /i/, not /y/
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
I think it's dialectic isn't it
@vampyricon70263 ай бұрын
@@zzineohp Fairly certain Welsh doesn't even have /y/
@Hambrack3 ай бұрын
Northern accents use it for /ɨ/, which is what I think he meant (since for some reason he doesn't use IPA symbols).
@brighthades59683 ай бұрын
@@Hambrack you know he made at least 2 videos about why he hates the ipa
@Hambrack3 ай бұрын
@@brighthades5968 I didn't mean that derogatorily. I said "for some reason" as in "for reasons I am not aware of". This is the first video of his I've seen.
@liquidoxygen8193 ай бұрын
Strapped for video ideas? Semitic conlang!
@randomguy-tg7ok3 ай бұрын
Why does tagging words because of relying on inflections _necessitate_ the sorting of words into categories? Sure, not doing so would get rid of all the distinctions you could easily make otherwise (such as, say, between the animate object in the sentence and the inanimate object in the sentence), but if you removed all grammatical gender from e.g. Spanish, you'd still get a passable language, wouldn't you?
@randomguy-tg7ok3 ай бұрын
...Although considering that Spanish was used as the example language.... *IF* I remember my GCSEs correctly there are at least two mistakes in the example sentence.
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
@@randomguy-tg7ok Yes, it would still make sense, but it wouldn't be an inflecting language anymore. (ok it still would be because verbs) but it would make it similar to English, which is a very morphologically simple language.
@cherrycoke95553 ай бұрын
10 seconds in and im immediately subbed
@ptero3 ай бұрын
Gif is not jif because it is translated into most other languages as /gif/ If GIF is not a property of English language but the whole world, then it should conform to be easy to identify and pronounce
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Lots of words are like that, just because most languages don't have a soft g. Orange. Germanium. That's just how it works.
@ptero3 ай бұрын
@@zzineohp Well in these cases entire words were borrowed. But GIF is just a string of latin letters so the prononciation gimmicks of english must not be important here
@yecksd3 ай бұрын
octopusen
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Octopüsen?
@TikSkygd3 ай бұрын
Once in a life time!!
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Water flowing underground
@oravlaful3 ай бұрын
in portuguese is also the english sound
@arthurgabriel26253 ай бұрын
As someone who also speaks portuguese, x can make a whole lotta sounds
@oravlaful3 ай бұрын
@@arthurgabriel2625 yes but in my mind most natives think of the sh sound first. It's the sound in the letter's name and it's also the one we inherited from latin. The others came from later borrowings
@Sundrobrocc3 ай бұрын
hell yeah
@pollema3 ай бұрын
etymology of your username please
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Phoenix backwards, I wanted it to be last alphabetically
@pollema3 ай бұрын
@@zzineohp your channel is unsearchable but i have found plenty of interesting videos on amenhotep
@killianobrien20073 ай бұрын
@@zzineohphow do you pronounce it
@wergthy63923 ай бұрын
@@killianobrien2007phoenix backwards like he said
@Kiyoliki3 ай бұрын
@@zzineohpWhy is there an X on your reddit username but Zz on your KZbin username?
@rasguero9143 ай бұрын
Yo la agua bebo??
@oravlaful3 ай бұрын
0:07 who is that?
@voncornhole3 ай бұрын
Human1011
@oravlaful3 ай бұрын
I like gis stuff
@celtofcanaanesurix22453 ай бұрын
octopodes is the proper plural! octopus is greek not latin!
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Well it used to be. Presently, octopus is an English word that's pluraljzed using an English pattern.
@multitrenergames64973 ай бұрын
When i saw "ł" in the weird orthography examples i wanted to leave the video with a dislike, but then realized that i want to see more linguistics stuff on my feed soooo. We're stuck together, language boy.
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Hahah get bent nerd
@multitrenergames64973 ай бұрын
@@zzineohpDaamn U quick. Got yourself a follow!
@multitrenergames64973 ай бұрын
@@zzineohp damn what an instant reply, u got urself a follow
@snowcat93083 ай бұрын
People who pronounce "Gif" as "Jif" at the pearly gates of heaven when they meet God and pronounce his name as "Jod":
@rajdhonsinghngangbam18483 ай бұрын
Gentrification
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
The g in God isn't before a front vowel
@ashlaskash3 ай бұрын
I thought PIE split the feminine from the animate, not the inanimate...? *seh₂ from adding *-h₂ onto animate-later-masculine *só, rather than inanimate-later-neuter *tód.
@applesauce78433 ай бұрын
The PIE feminine actually partly came from both. There were both animate and inanimates that became feminine when the gender was coming about. I'd assume he put it into a derivation from inanimate, however, because most feminines came from inanimates. So while both, mostly inanimate.
@ashlaskash3 ай бұрын
@@applesauce7843 I see, very interesting.
@nikitakrim023 ай бұрын
The pure nominative singular inflection of feminine gram.gender was made from plurals/collectives of inanimates. But i wouldn't read to much into it - to be effective at it's job a new gram.gender must be substantialy different to the older one, so it can't be derrived from it - and it must come from somewhere. It had a funny side effect of nearly all names for groups of inanimate objects/high concepts now being feminine gender in most IE languages.
@allocater23 ай бұрын
It's "graphical interchange format" not "jraphical interchange format"!
@joshuasgameplays985016 сағат бұрын
That’s not how acronyms work, you don’t pronounce laser like “la-sear” Also it’s graphics not graphical.
@limenoalikyoboi92303 ай бұрын
I was gonna share your video but then you say you pronounce Gif as Yiph
@rowandunning68773 ай бұрын
Well I didn’t follow most of that but you clearly really enjoy it so it was very entertaining
@liquidcancer45733 ай бұрын
Thanks, instead of trying to explain all this to people I'll just send them this video next time
@SisterSunny3 ай бұрын
I learnt today that GIF stands for graphics interchange format. I learnt also that I now have an extremely valid reason to pronounce it with a hard g. gif with a hard g is literally just the first sound of each word comprising it
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Can you name any other acronym that follows that rule
@jem563612 күн бұрын
@@zzineohp I can't. However, it's fun.
@k4kadu3 ай бұрын
I thought this was gonna be a meme video where you edited the videos to complete each other's sentences or smth, but this is cool too. 👍
@joshjocuns40763 ай бұрын
Thank you for your community service🙏🏻🙏🏻
@maika_anarchiya3 ай бұрын
But what about Octopodes?
@egodeathtod3 ай бұрын
keep up the great content my zziney friend!
@selladore49113 ай бұрын
1:45 the burst of air used for plosives is.... more forceful than in other languages?? something being uvular requires more air to be used??
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
Yeah, its called aspiration
@selladore49113 ай бұрын
@@zzineohp if aspiration is what makes it sound aggressive, why don't English speakers think that about their own language? I think it's just cause German has been memed to oblivion by people who don't know much about it, like in the schmetterling rage comic
@zzineohp3 ай бұрын
@@selladore4911 yeah that's probably a big part of it, but i do like my aspiration theory
@rowboat103 ай бұрын
0:07 In defense, it was an exercise of language evolution. I'm not a fan of his channel either though, from what I've seen of him he makes a lot of mistakes and is highly playing up an energetic tiktok personality
@cheese_man49523 ай бұрын
Do you like codenames the board game?
@gawys283 ай бұрын
6:40 this hurts my eyes
@bluberrri69053 ай бұрын
the joke at 5:57 lowkey caught me so off guard idk why that was so hilarious
@columbus8myhw3 ай бұрын
It's a jan Misali reference I think
@voncornhole3 ай бұрын
a joke about Shorts in general, I think
@voncornhole3 ай бұрын
a joke about Shorts in general, I think
@musigalglo3 ай бұрын
Ok Jraphics
@crusatyr14523 ай бұрын
gottem
@voncornhole3 ай бұрын
why sub to a linguistics channel when you have such a little understanding of how language works?