10 More Movies You Didn't Realise You Were Following The Villain

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[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

If you're familiar with how Ray Kroc "founded" McDonald's, you go in knowing he'll be the villain.

[@matthewhill4636]

The Founder is a great movie, and Keaton is a fantastic villain!

[@Darxide23]

Yea, except it's not really a twist. Kroc was known to be evil to the bone. I mean, even if you *didn't* know who Ray Kroc was, it's still a fundamental truth that behind every successful multinational corporation are sociopathic, sadistic, amoral tyrants and monsters who got it there through unethical (at the very least) means.

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

The film did demonize Croc when it came to the McDonald's brothers. There was not as much animosity between them as depicted in the film. The McDonald brothers made out far better in real life.

[@kris242]

Every time I recommend The Founder to people, I always describe it as “the most lighthearted tragedy you’ll ever see.”

[@user-jg6pi2si8v]

The Founder is a underrated masterpiece showing how far a person will go to get his way and it was satisfying that Ray Kroc went bankrupt

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

Declaring bankruptcy doesn't mean you've gone broke.

[@michaelandrew8493]

What about angel heart? Rooting for the private investigator the whole time and turns out he's the one killing everyone because of Satan.

[@lilmissknowitall5775]

only saw that recently, great film

[@Flaynustheflayedanus4815]

Does anyone find the lack of an outro to be absolutely bizarre?

[@MayonnaiseVenusaur]

Yes but you mean bizarre. Bazaar is a farmers' market.

[@Flaynustheflayedanus4815]

@@MayonnaiseVenusaur oh right, thanks.

[@simonjenkin]

yeah i miss them! gave them more personality

[@carlpassaro5264]

It’s to keep people watching until the end of the video, a lot of people will just skip to the next video during the outro and it doesn’t look great for analytics.

[@majorprofit]

Not, really. For me it’s annoying and not bizarre. The German tv does this. Enough times for me to notice it. So I’m watching and thinking is this still the same episode or have they changed and this something else. Why is that character in this show. Oh, wait it’s another show that has started. For myself I want to have an intro and a outro (can’t remember the right word right now) but I agree that some might skip those when watching several episodes in a row.

[@jennierich2986]

Great choice for number 1 👍

[@azozeto]

iI kinda forgot Jean Brodie was villanous. I'm gonna have to watch it again.

[@DocZFlux]

The Founder only counts if you went in not knowing who Ray Kroc was (and the film’s target audience was people who already knew)

[@chuckpereda]

Yeah, that's how you write Samaritin

[@kanukki84]

It is Samaritan...

[@blakeharris58]

They stopped trying long ago.

[@Nathan.007]

i remember watching the founder and thinking -wow, that guy is ruthless. oh, he was the bad guy. Never put 1 + 1 together 😆

[@snowdenwyatt6276]

Some of these are a little dodgy but #2 is a solid choice that fits the title perfectly. An underappreciated little gem from director David Twohy (of Pitch Black/Riddick fame).

[@Ceares]

Honestly, which are dodgy because I thought they are all pretty solid...unless your quibble is about the definition of a villain.

[@snowdenwyatt6276]

@@Ceares My quibble is mainly semantics. The title of the vid should have said "a villain" not "the villain". The latter indicates they're the villain of the film, which is definitely not the case with several of these which follow a former or soon to be former villain.

[@aquabuddha]

I almost rioted over the Iron Giant, but you actually make solid points.

[@kylemcnicholas4133]

Yeah same. At first i was like, the poor oppressed bff robot that changes a boys life? Go to hel. But then...Good points for a change. Haha

[@Werevampiwolf]

I will concede that the Iron Giant does count as a villain, but he's not The Villain of the movie

[@jakeriggs8506]

Calling Oliver Felix’s boyfriend is a huuuuge stretch

[@mattquinn2215]

I said the exact same thing, lol

[@brainlock72]

ANYONE who ever worked at McDonalds was shown the orientation video that portrays Kroc as a SAVIOR to the actual McDonald brothers, and they willingly sold out to him. That fantasy lasted until this movie came out, even as the real truth had been staring people in the eyes for YEARS before that.

[@marvelsProtege]

1:02 It was edited to make us feel like he was good

[@KasumiRINA]

In Mean Girls, Lindsay Lohan's character is so jealous of Rachel McAdams, she literally pushes her under a bus, and movie justifies that attempted murder and actual assault... Somehow.

[@KaiserTheDemon]

I always loved A Perfect Getaway - its a solid suspense thriller that I feel is underrated

[@chadf86]

I guessed that sly was nemesis before they finished the intro.

[@Ceares]

lol, I guessed from the summary...I mean I hope the plot twist wasn't all the movie had going for it because genre savvy people are gonna figure it out pretty quick.

[@dev2908]

@whatculture, you guys missed the greatest example of this genre - Memento!

[@alexthelizardking]

Ms .45 Mean Girls Perfect Stranger

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

One thing that really hints at the truth in "A Perfect Getaway" is when the killers are playing with the video camera at the beginning. Reciting their names and where they come from is them practicing the cover story.

[@heygerald]

This list is a lil shaky in my opinion...

[@kromus1]

Welcome to whatculture. Shaky is their whole bag

[@LoverOfBellies]

The main character of Unbreakable is David & he isn't a bad guy

[@jimmiemaxx4236]

I think they were referencing Glass, but it's funny how we were the only ones to catch that.

[@michaeljohnson6905]

Go rewatch Unbreakable and practice reading comprehension. They didn't say the main character, they said 'You Were Following'. Unbreakable spends half the time following Sam Jackson's character and giving you his backstory. It's like you guys are intentionally misinterpreting what's being said

[@LoverOfBellies]

@@michaeljohnson6905 I don't need to rewatch the film to know that Samuel L Jackson's character turns out to be a bad guy

[@devinfaucette]

It's pretty big stretch to say that Nicole Kidman and her family are the villains of the others. They just didn't know they were dead. That doesn't make them the bad guys

[@hetty100]

The children arn’t but the mother defiantly is she’s a murderer

[@adammacdonald5332]

Bravo, bravo!

[@earlleeruhf3130]

If someone handed me and my brother each a check for 3 million dollars I would not consider him a bad guy. I would say Thank you Mr, Kroc! Saltburn sounds a lot like The Talented Mister Riply. The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie started out like Dead Poets Society. Am I wrong?

[@mkklassicmk3895]

Wayne's World is another one of those movies where you don't realize the main character is the bad guy.

[@MayonnaiseVenusaur]

How so?

[@mkklassicmk3895]

@@MayonnaiseVenusaur Rewatch the movie. The guy you assume is the bad guy never does anything bad the whole movie. Wayne is the real bad guy.

[@danielmiller3596]

🤔 I follow your logic... basically making it a soft metal karate kid...

[@mkklassicmk3895]

@@danielmiller3596 Not exactly, in Karate Kid the "bad guy" is absolutely the antagonist. The bad guy is also not the punk teenage kid, it's the instructor.

[@MayonnaiseVenusaur]

@@mkklassicmk3895 he ruins Wayne's show and then fires him. He tries to turn Cassandra into a sex symbol when she wants to be rockstar. He had their financial interest at heart, I'll give him that, but this goes against the punk ethos.

[@chrisaugustine2812]

If you watched The Founder and didn’t know Ray Crock was the villain lol I struggle with that

[@Movies-Films-Sports]

10 More Movies You Didn't Realise You Were Following The Villain a good job from you

[@tomcody2203]

I guess you forgot Denzel Washington in "FALLEN"!

[@MayonnaiseVenusaur]

Lol say automaton again

[@alm2187]

In the case of Grace, I can assure you that she'd prefer "villainess." 😉

[@thewhitewolf58]

Honestly if you make a the movie from a villains perspective some people will always find him to be the hero. Just look at american phycho: a man who pretends to be a strong sigma male but in reality is a loser who tries to copy and paste everyones personality in an attempt to get validation. Yet some people act like he doesn't need others approval. To which I ask if they wanted the whole movie while paying attention or just pre selected clips from tik tok brain rot?

[@mattquinn2215]

In saltburn, felix was never Oliver's boyfriend. Sure he had a love for him but they were never a couple at all

[@danmercer8139]

Ray Kroc was not a villain. McDonald’s under his leadership became a powerful force for good. Mickey D’s broke the color barrier on TV. John Amos became the first African American to appear in a TV and he also was the first to be shown as a manager. It wasn’t just on TV, McDonalds instituted a program to create black ownership. Then there’s Ronald McDonald House. And helping to bring down the Soviet Union. Maybe to Hollywood that was his real crime.

[@GreggaraZZi]

Add Chapters next time, please!

[@ericsaunders2485]

The Leon giant ain’t bad, but they pushed him without knowing if he was friendly, just like real life, you kill me or anyone of my people, I’m evil to protect them???

[@kanukki84]

It is Samaritan...

[@unclecreed2986]

Samaritan he was a villian he isn't anymore. There will be Blood would be better in its place.

[@dylanogg347]

The Giant is not the villain. Kent is.

[@davidvaldezjr5546]

If Elijah has brittle bones, then how does he walk? The viewer sees him walking at a few points in the film, so HOW?

[@JMcMillen]

Slowly. Very slowly. Just like someone with Osteoporosis has to do.

[@davidvaldezjr5546]

Didn't look like he was walking slowly at all.

[@UnluckyHarmz]

Samaritan was the worst written plot twist of all time. I want to say something stupid like 5 minutes into the film. I looked over to my son and was like I bet he used to be the bad guy

[@JoshuaEckert-yf8gc]

What about Avatar and Avatar the Way of Water

[@Busto]

Does your A.I. writer not understand the word "villain"?

[@alexius23]

🎬🎞🎬🧙🏻‍♂

[@dhenderson1810]

Why is a successful person a villian?

[@majorprofit]

Because of how that person became successful and perhaps how they stay successful. I can name some world leaders who ruled over so much land and people. Were they successful? Yes, they were since they were called world leaders but their actions to reach it was filled with corpses. Also there is and always will be, probably, what one person sees as a villain is not what another individual sees as such.

[@MegaMikeStrike]

night shift 224

[@adiestone5099]

It wouldn’t be Whatculture without mistakes, shoddy editing and problems pronouncing names.

[@carlpassaro5264]

I’ve often thought the mispronunciation was intentional just to drive engagement through people’s need to correct them.

[@fantabaz1]

Are you guys deliberately mispronouncing words in your videos? I've watched 4 videos back to back this morning and in every one the 'presenter' mispronounces a word.

[@randolphwh9551]

That's bs on the founder movie was he devious yes but he found a loophole out they were small time and every franchise he signed up to give them money would beg for help to not be poor and all they said was same shyt eat shyt a simple powdered milk instead of regular which could have gave them both leverage and profits was shot down as for the wife she was abusive AF why would anyone that made her life so great take so much shyt the woman he married after did a miracle his ex couldn't work, be nice and a f in decent person that wasn't verbally abusive. Mean to her she got a divorce a massive settlement n Raymond bros got more money than they'd ever see if they died and reincarnated five times over if they ain't care about his income enough wtf would he care about thiers

[@randolphwh9551]

It was their idea like 2 percent but rest was all his business acumen marketing and etc . N business development skills

[@waxmandr]

Full stops and commas, please. Couldn't get through that huge paragraph of text.

[@shaunw796]

Breathe

[@themansion4394]

Uploading censored videos is very bad, Whatculture.