10 Movie Franchises That Destroyed Themselves With ONE Decision

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@galogiha
@galogiha Ай бұрын
Wait, Kinberg wrote Last Stand AND Dark Phoenix? WTF? No one bothered to AT LEAST tell him the story in between the 2 movies? HOW? WHY? WHAT?
@NorthernHandle
@NorthernHandle Ай бұрын
Gremlins 2 is so fuckin good!
@anton1990
@anton1990 Ай бұрын
Yes it is, friend!
@jefe2112
@jefe2112 Ай бұрын
Absolutely! It also came out during that era when parent groups were pressuring studios to tone down kids movies (Ghostbusters 2, TMNT 2, etc)
@thrilleex
@thrilleex Ай бұрын
Fucking Good indeed
@rvaldrich
@rvaldrich Ай бұрын
For real! What the hell, WhatCulture? This list doesn't seem critical; just short-sighted and a little mean.
@parkerpshebnisky1051
@parkerpshebnisky1051 Ай бұрын
One of my fav sequels!😁👍👍
@Mattavilasa
@Mattavilasa Ай бұрын
You forgot the offscreen deaths of Newt and Hicks in Alien3. The franchise has never recovered, IMHO.
@Biggles_James
@Biggles_James Ай бұрын
Agree to some extent along with Promethius and Convenant adding nails, I would say Romulus may have returned it to a decent series.
@Yutah1981
@Yutah1981 Ай бұрын
and technically Bishop.
@robirvine6970
@robirvine6970 Ай бұрын
Romulus was shit. Plot holes from the first minute and it got duller the longer it went on
@josephshriner2850
@josephshriner2850 Ай бұрын
The Gibson script was waaay better. It actually played off the family themes that ALIENS created.
@shill1444
@shill1444 Ай бұрын
​@@josephshriner2850- yep. Agreed.
@SergioHernandez-le8wp
@SergioHernandez-le8wp Ай бұрын
Star Wars didn't die because it couldn't let go of the past. It was because they decided to take the past, and Negan the shit out of it while making us all watch. Fans took that very personally
@stevedenis8292
@stevedenis8292 Ай бұрын
Very nice using Negan as a verb. Great imagery too bad Disney does not have your talent.
@Bman32x
@Bman32x Ай бұрын
Hard disagree. Its “fans” refusal to let go of the past forced them to change course. Most responsible was China not being able to accept a non-white hero.
@Rumbero55
@Rumbero55 Ай бұрын
Star wars and Terminator went woke, that's it.
@TheEightyFive
@TheEightyFive Ай бұрын
Independence Day 2 didn’t fail because Will Smith’s character was killed off. It failed because it was a terrible script that even Smith wouldn’t have been able to save.
@johnsmith-kc8rk
@johnsmith-kc8rk Ай бұрын
If you wanted to boil down Star Wars many creative misfires to one decision it was this…not finding a great director with an original vision to do the whole trilogy.
@alexjones50
@alexjones50 Ай бұрын
yes, that was the biggest problem at the end of the day, there was no plan, they were just making it up as they went long.
@PaulSmoker420
@PaulSmoker420 Ай бұрын
That would have been nice. You could tell George Lucas was out of ideas by the time "Return of the Jedi" was released. I mean, c'mon! The Death Star? Again?! 🙄
@redrick8900
@redrick8900 Ай бұрын
The first trilogy had three directors. I don't want people with original visions to make Star Wars. Lucas didn't even have an original vision. What makes Star Wars the greatest story ever told is that it's completely unoriginal.
@gregsmw
@gregsmw Ай бұрын
@@redrick8900 star wars isnt even remotly close to being "the greatest story ever told"
@redrick8900
@redrick8900 Ай бұрын
@@gregsmw Well reality contradicts your belief.
@harrisoncastleberry458
@harrisoncastleberry458 Ай бұрын
The TERMINATOR series should’ve just ended after T2. T3 was okay. Not terrible but not excellent either.
@victorstewartjr.106
@victorstewartjr.106 Ай бұрын
That's pretty much exactly my train of thought
@Marveryn
@Marveryn Ай бұрын
i will say the same about salvation. It was not great but not terrible. in fact i want to say salvation maybe better then T3 but not as good as T2. cant comment on the last two genesis and dark fate cause i did not bother to watch either.
@harrisoncastleberry458
@harrisoncastleberry458 Ай бұрын
@@Marveryn Trust me you aren’t missing anything. I was foolishly optimistic about DARK FATE but was very disappointed in it. I’ve held onto the 4K though. I didn’t do the same for GENISYS. Sold it about a week after I got it.
@jamesmendonca2900
@jamesmendonca2900 Ай бұрын
That is funny about Sin City's cast availability, since some of them either died or was on maternity leave, and they could not even get Clive Owen back as Dwight. The mistake they made was making another installment to the film.
@samya1231
@samya1231 Ай бұрын
They took too long with the sequel. Should've come to by the 2010s started.
@southbeachtalent
@southbeachtalent Ай бұрын
Should've just made Sin City 2 instead of The Spirit. Horrible flick
@REDANDSILVER741
@REDANDSILVER741 Ай бұрын
Star War problem wasn’t it letting go of the past. It was disrespecting the past films and ruined the opportunity to use all three actors when they were available.
@darth_smooth81
@darth_smooth81 Ай бұрын
I agree and disagree…..I really truly disliked that in “episode 6” we saw our heroes victorious and the empire at an end - but then 30-50 years later, we see them as shells of themselves in “episode 7”…..but at the same time, I’m sure in that timeframe our heroes just weren’t entertaining either - especially if they ended up where they did in “episode 7”……..I feel the biggest issue to me is that they called it a sequel trilogy yet it wasn’t focused around our heroes at all - it felt more like a spinoff than a proper sequel.
@unholyperiodza5442
@unholyperiodza5442 Ай бұрын
Not to mention using Rei as the main hero not Finn
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 Ай бұрын
Star Wars problem was a toxic fanbase of immature adult men who try to not focus on their empty lives by caring too much about a bunch of movies and acting like it is more important than anything, and getting over the top offended that the movie doesn't match their own fan fiction that they form in their otherwise empty heads. Most SW fans are whiny bitches who don't argue in good faith and prefer to send death threats to directors and actors of a movie series. You are a laughing stock to everyone else. You are the movie version of "deplorables". You should all go touch grass.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 Ай бұрын
@@unholyperiodza5442 Triggered by a female main character?
@unholyperiodza5442
@unholyperiodza5442 Ай бұрын
@@dhenderson1810 A way to promote girl power, a problem franchises have tried since the 2016 Ghostbusters.
@nicolasmaldonado1428
@nicolasmaldonado1428 Ай бұрын
6:36 The Last Jedi killed the franchise for his treatment of Luke. Actually the opposite of what you are saying.
@hunterolaughlin
@hunterolaughlin Ай бұрын
What about the Jurassic World trilogy? The inclusion of locusts in Dominion and human cloning in Fallen Kingdom pretty much took away the main thing that was always the focus and draw for audiences when watching the film series and that’s the dinosaurs.
@therealeverton
@therealeverton Ай бұрын
@hunterolaughlin They added to the story, rather than just doing the same thing over and over again. Helping to keep the series ridiculously popular and never dipping below $1b gross. That is mighty imptessive.
@coreytomison3292
@coreytomison3292 Ай бұрын
Gremlins 2 is better than the original. The decision to make the film with a more satirical tone is what makes it so fun to watch.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 Ай бұрын
I liked the darker tone of the original "Gremlins".
@robmarsh918
@robmarsh918 Ай бұрын
Yeah. That’s exactly what the video said.
@boohankins2993
@boohankins2993 Ай бұрын
I loved the 2nd Gremlins too!
@slactweak
@slactweak Ай бұрын
@@dhenderson1810 Yeah, so did I. Gremlins 2 was pretty funny but the first one felt more, "normal", if such a thing can be applied to this.
@moriconvallaria1279
@moriconvallaria1279 Ай бұрын
It's good and fun, but not better than the original.
@unholyperiodza5442
@unholyperiodza5442 Ай бұрын
Jurassic World Dominion using Maizie's origin as the main plot instead of using dinosaurs.
@CryLowderWithCrouder
@CryLowderWithCrouder Ай бұрын
Defending the Last Jedi? Yeah, this is the last video I watch on this channel.
@glennl.3277
@glennl.3277 Ай бұрын
The whole issue with killing John Connor as a kid is that it makes absolutely no sense. If he is killed, how can future John Connor ever send anyone back to protect Sarah/John. It means there is no future John🤦‍♂️
@infinityspin6537
@infinityspin6537 Ай бұрын
Its from a different timeline its not circular but instead it created a branch alternate reality
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 Ай бұрын
@@glennl.3277 Eddie Furlong wasn't available to film the whole movie so they had to write him out somehow.
@glennl.3277
@glennl.3277 Ай бұрын
@@infinityspin6537cop out, that changes the whole point of the earlier movies
@Biggles_James
@Biggles_James Ай бұрын
@@glennl.3277 Kind of like killing off Hicks and Newt!
@Biggles_James
@Biggles_James Ай бұрын
@@dhenderson1810 They could have gone somewhere else with the film though, add another resistance leader or reason to send another Terminator back - Restart up SkyNet or similar ideas, not kill off the whole point of the films
@gerardovertiz
@gerardovertiz Ай бұрын
Star Wars died because Ryan Johnson made Luke Skywalker a lame coward
@Euphoriasmotion2011
@Euphoriasmotion2011 Ай бұрын
Have you ever seen Mark Hamiltoe? Star Bores is shite.
@joeparrigen4982
@joeparrigen4982 Ай бұрын
I blame Abrams.
@moriconvallaria1279
@moriconvallaria1279 Ай бұрын
@gerardovertiz Nope. It was bigoted fake fans throwing public tantrums that killed the sequel trilogy. But also, let's not pretend Lucas didn't cause massive damage with the prequels, as well as with changes he made to the originals. Despite all that though, Star Wars is alive and recovering.
@bassguitarislife3419
@bassguitarislife3419 25 күн бұрын
Don’t forget he spells his name R I A N 🤮
@gestaltdude
@gestaltdude Ай бұрын
It is so weird for me seeing footage from Gremlins 2, mainly because I'm so used to seeing Robert Picardo as he appeared in Star Trek Voyager. Even after going through the whole series a couple of times, it never clicked for me he was the "tough guy" in Gremlins 2. :D
@carlosamorim1204
@carlosamorim1204 Ай бұрын
Not having Josh Brolin turn into Clive Owen was what broke sin city 2 for me. And the fact that it sucked
@rorylynch7775
@rorylynch7775 Ай бұрын
"Clive Warren" -Karl Pilkington
@StormX6
@StormX6 Ай бұрын
Clive Owen as Dwight was so amazing. I understand why Josh Brolin would play Dwight before facial reconstruction. But after he gets shot in the face, it looked so bad having Josh Brolin with chin and nose prosthetics.
@bamabat8435
@bamabat8435 Ай бұрын
Sinister 2 making the comic relief character from the original movie the main character and toning it down to a PG-13 rating.
@KadenJ-ie1ji
@KadenJ-ie1ji Ай бұрын
I have a few: Pirates, Indiana Jones, and Transformers: Continuing after the third movie. They all had perfect finales but their legacies, especially Transformers, were destroyed by two sequels that sucked and killed the franchises. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Michael Bay. The second one with him was good but the first one was okay. They could've possibly been better if he wasn't involved. DCEU: Rushing Josstice League. They should've taken their time and introduced all the heroes in a better way before teaming them up.
@redrick8900
@redrick8900 Ай бұрын
Indiana Jones never had a finale. 4 and 5 are every bit as good as 2 and 3. Pirates 4 and 5 are much better than 3.
@KadenJ-ie1ji
@KadenJ-ie1ji Ай бұрын
@@redrick8900 What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. There's a reason the Last Crusade is called The LAST Crusade. Pirates 3 was the Endgame of the 2000s and 4 and 5 just sh** all over that movie's legacy.
@redrick8900
@redrick8900 Ай бұрын
@@KadenJ-ie1ji Well you didn't hear it. You read it. "There's a reason the Last Crusade is called The LAST Crusade." Yeah, because it's about a crusade and it's the last one. No one ever said it was going to be the last movie. Pirates 3 is total crap and it's nothing like Endgame. It didn't even make as much as the second movie. It's so bad it made Pirates 2 bad by association. You did a great job of making one of us look idiotic.
@KadenJ-ie1ji
@KadenJ-ie1ji Ай бұрын
@@redrick8900 I do kinda get your view on The Last Crusade but that Pirates 3 opinion is so idiotic. Are you stuck in 2007? What about what I said about Transformers? Do you agree on that?
@redrick8900
@redrick8900 Ай бұрын
@@KadenJ-ie1ji What? "2007?" Is that the last time people knew what they were talking about with movies? Transformers sucked from the first movie on. Pirates 3 is objectively bad. They kill off the big monster from 2 between movies. The navel combat is an assault on reason. It's absolutely the worst pirate movie I've ever seen. Ice Pirates and Yellowbeard eat it's lunch.
@caseycarpenter303
@caseycarpenter303 Ай бұрын
What's worse john conor becoming the villian or him dying
@lowermichigan4437
@lowermichigan4437 Ай бұрын
Everything after T2 was just crap. They had a perfect ending and the stories just went downhill after that.
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz Ай бұрын
Fun fact: Simon Kinberg was the one who pitched Matthew Vaughn to direct FIRST CLASS
@beesleep23
@beesleep23 Ай бұрын
didn't i already watch this like 3 weeks ago or something?
@antney7745
@antney7745 Ай бұрын
LEGO Ninjago was a niche sub-brand that not everyone was familiar with over the more generic "LEGO" itself. That probably didn't help with audience appeal.
@Jamal-bl7yh
@Jamal-bl7yh Ай бұрын
Warriors Of Virtue 2 Return To Tao Being Greenlit In the first place and I loved the original film honestly but It's on dailymotion so can watch It anytime I want
@vgtrp
@vgtrp Ай бұрын
Didn’t even know there was a sequel to Warriors of Virtue.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 Ай бұрын
What I didn't like with "Gremilns 2" was that they could have had Gremlins invade Times Square, the Empire State Building and the Statue Of Liberty. Instead it was contained inside a building. Also the Gremilns were more joky and less menacing, it was more comedy than horror (maybe to market it more to families), it wasn't as dark as the first one (people died in the original) and Gizmo was missing for over half the movie.
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 Ай бұрын
No way they had the budget to make that work
@jasong6027
@jasong6027 13 күн бұрын
It was a joke movie. Dante really didn't want to make it at all so he made it as absurd as possible.
@mr.vanillamilkshake3
@mr.vanillamilkshake3 Ай бұрын
Thankfully, Terminator Zero's answer to which continuity is canon is "yes".
@Mr.J.RC90
@Mr.J.RC90 Ай бұрын
Yeah, that wasn’t the Blair Witch.
@alm2187
@alm2187 Ай бұрын
Michael Clarke Duncan would be missed in Sin City 2, but at least his role was in good hands. Get it? Get it? Anyone?? Anyone?? 😁🤗
@eddmario
@eddmario Ай бұрын
Wasn't it recently announced within the past year that there's actually a fourth Brendan Fraser Mummy movie in the works?
@cmike123
@cmike123 Ай бұрын
Maybe, but that doesnt mean much. Brendan got a lot of pop from The Whale (after being largely forgotten). However, that was 2-3 years ago. He is back to being largely forgotten.
@federicoarmando8359
@federicoarmando8359 Ай бұрын
Man, I hadn’t come across a Whatculture video in years. Flashback of my teenage years.
@klydejohnson7520
@klydejohnson7520 Ай бұрын
It’s been stated that wasn’t the Blair which it was a form it took yall even said it before in a video😂😂😂
@RyanReidFilms
@RyanReidFilms Ай бұрын
The real problem with Sin City 2 were the two original stories, that even people who didn’t read the comics felt were the weakest part of the movie. Had they stuck to adapting stories from comics, it would have been better.
@JimmyBacon05
@JimmyBacon05 Ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion, but I really liked Adam Wingard's Blair Witch. Also, according to Simon Barrett(the guy who wrote the movie), the monster at the end is not the Blair Witch.
@jasong6027
@jasong6027 13 күн бұрын
Blair witch sucked
@mykhaylorusetsky202
@mykhaylorusetsky202 Ай бұрын
Props for distinguishing Gremlins 2 from the rest of the bunch. Respect!
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 Ай бұрын
Rise of Skywalker was just a weak attempt of damage control, The Last Jedi already ruined the Sequels
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Ай бұрын
Faxs 📠
@ThisKindNepenthe
@ThisKindNepenthe Ай бұрын
Thank you! Rise of Skywalker gets so much hate, but everyone pretends like TLJ didn't already completely harpoon any chance of a satisfying conclusion.
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Ай бұрын
@@ThisKindNepenthe I still hate TLJ more cuz of what they did to Luke and how they treated the audience & lore, and Ryan is just an arrogant egotistical asshole to the fans. JJ likes the series and doesn’t hate us but he just sucks at his job and the last movie he threw jabs at Ryan cuz Jj was screwed yet that movie is still dogshit, then again even Force Awakens is shit it’s just not as painfully bad and stupid.
@Biggles_James
@Biggles_James Ай бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls I can't believe they didn't script out all 3 films in one go as a series - Palpatine could still have come back but written into it, build up the insider in the First Order, give Finn a proper purpose, back Rey exploring her back story interesting not at odds per film
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Ай бұрын
@@Biggles_James Yeah that’s true lol it’s sad and ridiculous fr
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 Ай бұрын
The 2018 Halloween franchise had a chance until they ruined it with Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Ай бұрын
Honestly don’t get the hate with Kills that much but I haven’t seen Ends yet I’ve never heard anything good and it sounded like a piece of shit and disrespectful to Micheal Myers and just lame af tbh
@radrobd123
@radrobd123 Ай бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls In Kills, Jamie Lee Curtis' character was hospital bound for the entire movie
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Ай бұрын
@@radrobd123 Oh yeah! I forgot cuz it’s been a few years lol Oops But yeah that’s pretty bad cuz she was such an active main character in the first movie and her conflict with Micheal both mentally and physically was good, and her family got together over this yet they were pushed to the side when they could of still fit in Kills imo I still liked the town mob aspect and making the people more like characters they would feel this way and the mob would get out of hand and die to him, maybe some parts could of been done better yet overall I enjoyed it. I think the movie is still good just not as good and has wasted potential ofc
@briannab.1712
@briannab.1712 Ай бұрын
I think the biggest mistake Disney made with Star Wars was ignoring the established lore and messing up the characters we already know and love. There were a lot of problems with the so called "sequels" but these are probably the worst.
@cmike123
@cmike123 Ай бұрын
I think yall forgot that Terminator was a time-travel tale. Just because John Connor got killed in Dark Fate, didnt mean he was dead forever. Which is why one more time jump before that, could pop him back into the story very easily.
@draygoon69
@draygoon69 Ай бұрын
For me, Terminator deciding to pretend the other sequels didn't exist is what killed it. It's just lazy. Instead of writing a story to correct any missteps, you just pretend it didn't happen. Killing of John Conner could work in the right story. Independence Day 2 suffered more from changing the pacing and not giving anyone time to shine, then it did from not having Will Smith. I rewatched it a few days ago and unlike the first that took place over a couple days and let you see the effects it was having. Part 2 seems to happen in like 12 hours (an assumption as it's not really stated) where they did not give any character buildup at all. I'll still never understand the hype behind Blair Witch. I am surprised that this list went after the 3rd entry and not the 2nd as Book of Shadows is often the one people dump on. But making it a real horror movie and not the idiotic found footage style. I would add another terrible decision for X-Men is their insistence on doing the Dark Phoenix story. It's not a story that can be done in one or 2 movies. It was a huge comic book event that spanned over a year. They would need to build up to it over a few movies before taking it on.
@shill1444
@shill1444 Ай бұрын
Who in their right mind thought killing off Will Smith OFF SCREEN was a good idea???
@edgarjacksby1402
@edgarjacksby1402 20 күн бұрын
I would argue the reason for the SW sequel trilogy wasn't about clinging to the past (though that certainly didnt help), but rather the decicion to move forward with the trilogy without a plan.
@shawnhenderson2091
@shawnhenderson2091 2 күн бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, Days of Future Past is the finale of the x-men mainline universe, everything that followed was fan fiction, and Logan is a prolific alternate timeline (because its too depressing for that to be the final outcome after everything mainline Logan went through to bring everyone back in DoFP)
@lostpunkrock
@lostpunkrock Ай бұрын
Terminator “the series has been put on ice for the foreseeable future”. Terminator Zero: uuhhhhh hiiii
@rBonesy
@rBonesy Ай бұрын
Directors have said that wasnt the blair witch
@philiphunn194
@philiphunn194 Ай бұрын
Expendables 3 was PG-13 because Chuck Norris demanded it be so.
@bryanc1984
@bryanc1984 Ай бұрын
I believe you are confusing the second and third movies. Chuck Norris agreed to appear in the second movie on the condition that they removed all the profanity from the script. He doesn't appear in the third movie.
@philiphunn194
@philiphunn194 Ай бұрын
@@bryanc1984 I stand corrected, then - they all kinda blur into one after a while 🙃
@zbennalley
@zbennalley Ай бұрын
God, I forgot about the background music at the intro. I now associate this song with Whatculture.
@tronman9227
@tronman9227 Ай бұрын
Everything said about gremlins in this video is completely wrong.
@Se7Tripz
@Se7Tripz Ай бұрын
5:33 point of order, book of shadows was a brilliant movie. One of the most over looked movies of all time
@WitchesCat
@WitchesCat Ай бұрын
That wasn’t the Blair Witch. Y’all have, incorrectly, said this before. Is it on purpose? One would think you lot would know this.
@davelightsaber1621
@davelightsaber1621 Ай бұрын
…i feel like gremlins 1 & 2 share the same tone though .
@newfiejesus
@newfiejesus Ай бұрын
There were lots of gags in the first one, the bar scene in the original would have fit perfectly in the sequel.
@davelightsaber1621
@davelightsaber1621 Ай бұрын
@@newfiejesus Yeah . them singing christmas carols in the snow, the fact that the girl gremlin is BRIEFLY in the bar scene, and their obsession with snow white are all attributes that fit with 2’s tone . crazy
@nicoleheppner6431
@nicoleheppner6431 Ай бұрын
I *KNOW* that I've seen Dark Phoenix! I know I have... I just can't remember a single thing about it... 😂
@SniffHeinkel
@SniffHeinkel Ай бұрын
An actor's unavailability to reprise a former role due to commitments to another film does not reasonably constitute "ditching" the actor.
@josephfitzpatrick4716
@josephfitzpatrick4716 Ай бұрын
Can we just add that they also recast the presidents daughter in Independence day 2? Mae Whitman is still an actress today.
@nc55
@nc55 Ай бұрын
The taken series reducing it to a 12/15 original was an 18 and a superior film
@shaneramey
@shaneramey Ай бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, Gremlins 2 is a freakin' gem.
@BrianHartman
@BrianHartman Ай бұрын
To be honest, I think several of the movies on this list actually suffered from coming too late. A Star Wars sequel that happened back in the 80s could've had slightly older versions of the original cast that delved into some of the Legends stuff (like Han and Leia's relationship, Luke and Mara Jade, the Empire's recovery from the Battle of Endor, etc.) The sequel trilogy suffered a lot from not being connected to the original trilogy outside of the cameos. Similarly, if Independence Day had been followed up on immediately, maybe they could've gotten Will Smith at a better price/when he was less in demand. I think Dark Fate even had that problem. If you followed up T2 with Dark Fate as the next movie, instead of having John Connor alive in the public imagination for decades, you wouldn't have had that negative a reaction to his death. To be honest, though, I've always thought that T3 was the right way to go. Not a perfect movie by any means, but it always made more sense that a) John lived, and b) Judgement Day happened. Without John Connor surviving, you wouldn't be able to get the T-800 coming back to save young John, and without Judgment Day succeeding, there would be no T-800 or T-1000 in the first place. Dark Fate breaks the continuity because it sets up a type of Grandfatehr Paradox.
@blacksheep9950
@blacksheep9950 Ай бұрын
Take a breath between numbers! Also I don't think the Gremlins franchise counts as on ice for thirty years when there's a Netflix show going on right now.
@jacobdrolet4262
@jacobdrolet4262 Ай бұрын
Star Trek beyond and transformers the last knight
@GregNumber
@GregNumber Ай бұрын
Star Wars started to have box office problems with Last Jedi, not Rise of Skywalker. When they stuck to the past, they were a successful franchise (whatever you think of the films as art).
@toddferrullo1871
@toddferrullo1871 Ай бұрын
Much like Expendables, the Conan series also never received its third planned movie due to making the second one PG rather than R like the original.
@louishart6725
@louishart6725 Ай бұрын
Independence Day: Resurgence made way more than one mistake…
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 Ай бұрын
Godfather III - letting Robert Duvall walk
@quentingray643
@quentingray643 Ай бұрын
Some might say casting Sofia Coppola (not me). but Robert Duvall I agree
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 Ай бұрын
@@quentingray643 that’s the obvious flow, but Paramount f’ing Duvall was a much bigger mistake than casting Sofia
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 Ай бұрын
Meant to say flaw but the edit/delete buttons don’t work
@cmike123
@cmike123 Ай бұрын
The best parts of those Xmen movies were Professor X and Quiksilver. That's about it.
@I9X8I
@I9X8I Ай бұрын
Terminator dark fate hast its problems yet i still think it s not half as bad as genisys. I didnt mind Connors death either.
@robbiecrump4334
@robbiecrump4334 Ай бұрын
Are you guys purposefully ignoring the Lego movie that comes out this month? It’s a Pharrell biopic done with Lego animation
@ThatGuyLondon
@ThatGuyLondon Ай бұрын
I don't always agree with you guys...but I fully endorse the sentiment that Gremlins 2 is the superior Gremlins movie
@TheGeekViper
@TheGeekViper Ай бұрын
This list is already a little outdated because there's a Gremlins cartoon series on HBO 😊. Also, that's not what killed Terminator. Making John Conner a robot in Genisys is what did it.
@cinetobi
@cinetobi Ай бұрын
Jar Jar Abrams killed Star Wars AND Star Trek by bringing dead characters back to life with no or stupid explanations. What's the point when no one can die in his movies?
@randyqquaint8400
@randyqquaint8400 Ай бұрын
If you get high enough, Dark Phoenix is an awesome movie.
@bheast86
@bheast86 Ай бұрын
if they used Kingsberg for X-Men four times, then it means it worked at least three times. Not putting Will Smith in the Independence Day sequel shouldn't be surprising - the number of fictional US service personnel killed onscreen in the 21st century possibly exceeds the real-life number, so they should live with it (and it's not as if the character had been particularly compelling in the first place). You can't blame Maria Bello for that Mummy movie: There was already too much wrong with it (one shouldn't worry about diversions from reality in a fantasy movie, but it dam well happened here); changing the female lead in a knowing fashion was almost the only plus point. One might not have known where GREMLINS could go after it went .Meta', but that doesn't mean that it wasn't effective. I would observe that many of these 'failures' were far less deserving than the 2009 STAR TREK of finishing their franchise; instead we had a trilogy based on ignorance of its source material, general sense and storytelling principles, and kicked off multiple TV series with much the same flaws that lasted for more seasons that did the '60s original
@briankorbelik2873
@briankorbelik2873 Ай бұрын
Both Sin City films were fun. But waiting too long between films did hurt the second. Fans have the attention span of a fly, especially superhero "genius" fans.
@bluegold1026
@bluegold1026 Ай бұрын
I'd have put a movie in the MCU on the list. Anything after Endgame.
@hthrun
@hthrun Ай бұрын
Spider-Man: The symbiote turned Peter Parker into a dancing emo.
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 Ай бұрын
No, that was the best part of the movie. Spider-Man doesn't have any bad movies; some just better than others.
@quentingray643
@quentingray643 Ай бұрын
It's about decisions that killed the franchise. The Spider-Man movies are still going strong. It might be bad entries but still a valuable franchise
@hthrun
@hthrun Ай бұрын
@@quentingray643 it killed the Raimi series. I suppose not necessarily the entire spiderman franchise...
@dustinrhodes4793
@dustinrhodes4793 Ай бұрын
You can add Joker 2 Fully a Douche to the list now
@michaelcarbone6101
@michaelcarbone6101 Ай бұрын
Stepson, Dylan, huh? Okay. Thanks 🙂
@glenndallas7171
@glenndallas7171 Ай бұрын
Sounds like several of these are really "the studio expected too much money." I mean, you cannot genuinely expect ANY sequel to Blair Witch to match the original's profitability.
@camaronshoultz6137
@camaronshoultz6137 Ай бұрын
Waiting too long for a sequel is not the reason any movie fails. If the sequel is good it will do well. If it’s not it won’t. It’s that simple. Look at Top Gun Maverick
@iandouglas1162
@iandouglas1162 Ай бұрын
Twisters, too!
@kentbelliston8541
@kentbelliston8541 Ай бұрын
Also Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
@piercepatterson9274
@piercepatterson9274 Ай бұрын
BLADE.
@Pat9201
@Pat9201 Ай бұрын
What terminator basically did by killing John Connor was a gender swap.
@patrickstoops1584
@patrickstoops1584 Ай бұрын
Oh, I think the Independence Day sequel had many other problems than Will Smith's absence...
@vimalmathew2679
@vimalmathew2679 Ай бұрын
I think Fast & Furious 9 too deserves the blame for going meta and ruining the movie. Already it was too stupid, however those meta references & self awarness made the entire movie much more worse.
@elainehinton30
@elainehinton30 Ай бұрын
Xmen fan. Always
@shawnkarg3794
@shawnkarg3794 Ай бұрын
It didn't help that they used up so much of the strongest source material in the first Sin City.
@richardsylvester4518
@richardsylvester4518 Ай бұрын
Star Wars hiring Rian Johnson. Turned one of the biggest franchieses in the world into a fractured mess which has now spent years in decline as a result. The Force awakens was generally received well even though its a greatest hits. The rise of skywalker is tthe result of Johnsons pig headed selfish attitude.
@dallasisgood
@dallasisgood Ай бұрын
Incredibly stupid take. The Last Jedi is by far the best movie out of everything post the original trilogy and Star Wars is doing just fine as a franchise.
@DW3010
@DW3010 Ай бұрын
@@dallasisgood you should really sober up before posting your comments online
@dallasisgood
@dallasisgood Ай бұрын
@@DW3010 thanks for chiming in with your your 1950’s joke book
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 Ай бұрын
​@@dallasisgoodTLJ is garbage, Rian Johnson just wanted to be the ultimate troll and destroy Star Wars
@justinb.8542
@justinb.8542 Ай бұрын
​​@@dallasisgood agreed. People didn't like it because it wasn't what they predicted. But if it was, then it would be loathed for being derivative. So much of Star Wars Fandom is so fickle
@FerretPirate
@FerretPirate Ай бұрын
Seems like often the "one bad decision" was using the script they did.
@marvelsProtege
@marvelsProtege Ай бұрын
3:20 I couldn't tell if it was set in the past or not
@waynereynolds2044
@waynereynolds2044 Ай бұрын
What about the Fantastic four? Particarly the ones with Jessica alba?
@djcjr1x1
@djcjr1x1 Ай бұрын
The Sin City sequel was HORRIBLE what are you smoking?😤
@tonysobon4669
@tonysobon4669 Ай бұрын
If the Sin City sequel was going to be basically the same plot with the same actors it would have not been much better anyways. Clive Owen was needed badly , with him it would have been a good enough movie , not great but good-ish.
@epideme3416
@epideme3416 Ай бұрын
Rey was allways going to be palpatine's daughter they did a good job suttley showing her poking with a light saber untrained yes bit a signature move of palpatine.
@tryan715
@tryan715 Ай бұрын
The Sin City sequel was AWFUL
@treyperkins2667
@treyperkins2667 Ай бұрын
Anyone blaming star wars on 'the past' is asinine
@angelhurtado55
@angelhurtado55 Ай бұрын
sude, because ghe problem with the sequel trilogy is not letting go of the past except all they've done is destroying it not to mention all the other problens they HAVE
@moriconvallaria1279
@moriconvallaria1279 Ай бұрын
Blair Witch was a decent movie until the end, when it completely fell apart into an utter joke.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 Ай бұрын
They killed off John Connor because Edward Furlong was unavailable to appear in lost of the movie. What other way should John Connor had been written out?
@juanausensi499
@juanausensi499 Ай бұрын
Just cast another actor.
@donstuie
@donstuie Ай бұрын
Gremlins 2 DOES NOT belong on this list!
@zachosborne6577
@zachosborne6577 Ай бұрын
“Make it gay, put a woman in it”
@moriconvallaria1279
@moriconvallaria1279 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I would rather be forced to watch the Star Wars Christmas Special for 24 hours without stop than ever watch Rise of Skywalker again.
@emptycradle1304
@emptycradle1304 Ай бұрын
i actually liked Terminator: Dark Fate, I think the move away from John Conner was exactly what the franchise needed... If you didn't watch it for such a lame reason, go watch it... you have my permission.... It basically opens the door to the multiverse for Terminator, now almost anyone can be a "Savior" and "Terminators" can be anything..
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