10 PERFECTLY SCORED jumps at US Nationals 2022

[@skatergirl1247]

Imo Nathan's splat during the choreo sequence should be at the top of this list. It was clearly the best executed element🤣🤣

[@Zach-ne9ju]

Malinin's performance was spectacular! Can't wait to see him grow

[@divinearia1601]

Nathan's 4F+3T, 4F, and 4Lz...just amazing. Quick snap, nice height, fast rotations. Effortless.

[@simpletruth5927]

You should make a video analyzing Ilia Malinin's jump techniques!!

[@skatergirl1247]

/the jump technique of the top 5 because I'd love to see how his technique compares to Vincent's, Jason's and Nathan's

[@SkateInsider]

I'll put it to my to-do list 🙌🏽

[@ppnexus2000]

@@skatergirl1247 Much better than Vincent and Jason's, pretty close to Nathan

[@amandadean5470]

Ilia's 4T from a spread eagle was ABSOLUTELY gorgeous!! 💗😍👏 Should've gotten a higher GOE for it! It was a Yuzu-standard 4T! #YuzuStandard #IliaMalinin

[@rickcruz7620]

The are both light footed.

[@miriamcecichavi7631]

No lo creo todavía le falta más fuerza y experiencia para comprarlo con Yuzuru o Soma Uno.pero en el futuro será un gran competidor y espero que supere a Chen, ya que tiene un buen nivel en la parte artística y le pone empeño a su vestuario.

[@Boymanjusri]

@@miriamcecichavi7631 I don’t think he would be as cool as chen.

[@sporeKAfan]

Don't compare Ilia to Hanyu. He is so much better than Hanyu who always miss or fall on his jumps and skate unclean. He is young and has energy and will likely land that 4A or even quintuple jump in the future.

[@chrslao]

Nathan's great but there's no way his 3A should be scoring those GOEs

[@user-qs5ix4nj9r]

the underrotated 4lz shouldnt either 😭

[@palasigmuanplayer5315]

I wish japanese has this exaggerated scores for yuzu

[@Boymanjusri]

@@user-qs5ix4nj9r under rotate Lutz was in the short, not this one in the free. Buy yourself a pair of glasses girl.

[@user-qs5ix4nj9r]

@@Boymanjusri i Was talking about the 4lz in the short, but regardless he had underrotations that were overlooked and resulted in him getting ridiculously high goe for an underrotated jump which he should be getting penalized for, so i dont know how your statement makes the fact any better. i can see just fine!

[@hannibaljustincase9985]

I love how whenever a Russian skater is overscored people act like that's the end of the world, but when it happens to a Japanese or American skater... suddenly no one says a thing? lol

[@liceous]

How is Ilia’s 4Lz not here

[@userbunny14]

Why all the Jason hate? His 3F out of those spirals is AMAZING. Just cause he doesn't do quads and isn't perfect. If this was women's this would be the opposite conversation, everyone would be defending him and saying the quad jumpers were ruining skating by making it more about jumps then artistry.

[@alyssat5028]

Ilia should go to the Olympics. He executes his jumps perfectly and he even uses difficult transitions. Why are they so against him going? I think they just like Jason more.

[@hekoriginaljni6489]

Ilia just crushed me with his jumps and his energy, and even being the big Jason fun, I can say Ilia should've won the third spot over him. BUT not for the Olympics. Honestly, nor Jason neither Ilia can fight for the podium, so the choice was who would benefit team score the most. They could've risked and go with Ilia and he could've given them around or slightly bigger score then perfect Jason's execution, but if Ilia fails to skate as good as on nationals, it would hurt the team. Would Ilia do good job or fail is hard to say because he has very little senior international experience (or none?) and no one can say if he'll be able to handle the pressure. Jason, on the other side, was stable last few years and there's higher change he would score well. Overall, I think US skating decided not to takes risks at competition of such a scale, and personally I'm happy Jason got what he worked for hard so many years, but also super happy we'll see Ilia on Worlds - he has all the potential to shine in seasons to come.

[@sariel8406]

There are a lot of politics in skating.

[@Gemini530]

Jason is a brilliant skater, but his technical content will in no way be able to compete with the top male skaters in the Olympics. Waste of spot in my opinion.

[@singsongeric]

@@Gemini530 I personally would have sent Ilia to get some experience, but I will defend Jason a bit here. People have been saying he doesn't have enough technical his entire career, but every single time he's been at a major event (Worlds/Olympics) he has placed top 10. He was 7th at World last year while Vincent bombed and didn't make the LP. We like to pretend the "top guys" are super consistent or something, but they're not - aside from Nathan and Yuzu. In a team situation, Jason's stability is super valuable.

[@Gemini530]

@SingSongEric ... You go to the Olympics to win, not to be in the top ten. Looking at all the top contenders' programs' score value, Jason's programs have ZERO chances. He only hopes for top skaters to fail on their quads so he could be in the top ten. Ilia's programs can compete with the best of them all. And he's the silver medalist. He should go.

[@ND559]

I am behind Ilia Malinin! Let him go to the Olympic!

[@kadovax6567]

IMHO, the first Vincent 3A is better than the first Nathan 3A, better in entry and exit, and better flow.

[@yohanes2034]

Better in any way. If judged to Nathan. If only Vincent has better knee bend and glide out of the jump then the National GOE could be translated to International.

[@haxicle5378]

Right!!

[@steinyfishy6246]

We all know that every nats performance is overscored

[@Zuranthium]

The last 3Flip from Jason was definitely the best quality jump here, but I wouldn't give that a +5 either, his air position is slightly tilted. GOE's are so misused.

[@ppnexus2000]

Good Height and Distance, Effortless throughout, Good Take off and landing, Creative entry, Good body position. He really wasn't that tilted in the air to warrant getting that +5 off. Nathan's 4Lz was also the same with the 5th bullet being element matching music. These GOEs are according to the panel, not misued.

[@Zuranthium]

@@ppnexus2000 "The panel" means nothing. Things are incorrectly scored all the time. Accurate GOE judging is not about checklisting the bullet points that are only a guideline.

[@ppnexus2000]

@Zuranthium By panel I meant the GOE bullet sheet. Not the tech panel. GOEs are sometimes misused but the last two elements deserve the GOE they got.

[@Zuranthium]

@@ppnexus2000 Nah, +5 needs to be reserved for among the best ever. Superficially looking at bullet points is not the way to do it. Neither of those jumps were huge enough to deserve +5.

[@ppnexus2000]

@Zuranthium Sure, think that way. But the LITERAL rules say that these jumps should be getting +5s, and I don't know about you but that looked like the BEST lutz to me (aside from the olys one most recently)

[@iosebdzamukashvili5360]

+5 for Chen's Axel is just criminal. Its maximum potential is +3. No difficulty, no height, nothing. The only skater who really deserved +5s was Malinin. Chen's 4Lz was under and +5. The US has the most biased judging, even worse than Russia.

[@Boymanjusri]

Are you blind? His SP 4 Lutz so under, not this one in the free. By the way, stop pretending you are an expert, you are nothing.

[@katherinetan4587]

Lmao you don’t know anything

[@katherinetan4587]

His lutz had transitions in and out and was done well. It was not under or q.

[@thekat3086]

Lol, Russia is the most biased, not the US. You gonna call Anna's lack of quad performance a 3rd place finish? HAHAHA

[@divinearia1601]

Nathan's 4lz here wasn't underrotated. What are you even looking at?

[@abbiecampfield8955]

I love Jason so much, but I’m kind of scared for him at the olympics. It’s all about jumps these days and without quads I’m feeling like Jason won’t place very high. Hope I’m wrong tho!

[@thekat3086]

Hopefully, Jason will score higher with consistency and artistry to make up for his lack of quads. He's got great triple axels tho.

[@abbiecampfield8955]

@@thekat3086 true, I really hope he does well cause he deserves it

[@sallygreenfield6991]

To be honest, I thought I would think many of these were overscored, but on watching it, there were only two or three that I felt were obviously not perfect. Brilliant jumps from these men.

[@andyz9455]

take it easy, it's nationals. Every country helps their athletes before OG

[@sallygreenfield6991]

@@andyz9455 I don't think you properly read my comment. I was prepared for massive nationals overscoring, but in all honesty, these jumps for the most part deserved those scores.

[@divinearia1601]

@@sallygreenfield6991...don't bother with all these fanyus. Their bias and the things they make up about the skaters who are a threat to their idol is hilarious.

[@keigotakami1741]

@@divinearia1601 wdym? Usa and russia always overscore their skaters during nationals. Bruh

[@joyjoyjoy9451]

アメリカによるネガティブキャンペーンの展開。

[@janemalig9243]

I like Jason Brown! I hope he can take the gold in Olympic. Go Jason! 2022!

[@CarlitosJS]

Impossible

[@Boymanjusri]

Where are Ilia’s 2 two quad Lutz?

[@SkateInsider]

The GOEs did not make the list

[@mollyjones9988]

I don’t understand why anyone would put Jason in the same category as Nathan or Ilia. Jason was getting 2.5s on his triples, meanwhile Nathan and ilia were getting 4s and 5s on their quads

[@lamcy1731]

2:12 I swear this looks like a quad!

[@sansprouts412]

jason's jumps are the most elegant and graceful by far of these 4

[@divinearia1601]

Also the easiest, by far.

[@sansprouts412]

@@divinearia1601 and i'd way rather watch pretty triples than clunky quads any day !

[@divinearia1601]

@@sansprouts412...quads aren't "clunky". When done well, they're beautiful and exciting. Doing triples all day is dull and boring. Worst of all, they no longer represent true jump talent for this day and age. If you just want to watch easy "elegant" jumps, you can always watch ice shows. Leave competitions for those who want to see skaters challenge themselves.

[@queenofnevers6990]

Idk how Brown's 3F is GOE'ed higher than Nathan's 4F. Higher than anything on this list. Why is the Fed pulling him up so hard?

[@mooony94]

Even with high GOE since it’s just a 3f which has less bv the bonus he receives is minimal.

[@cristinaeickeifert1027]

Because Jason has very complex steps before the jump, it is effortless, clean, hitting most GOE bullets. The GOE depends of the execution of the jump, not on the base value. Nathan's jumps are often telegraphed and take a long time of preparation, with no transitions, and still get insanely high GOE. He's the one that gets the most inflated scores.

[@mlake1860]

bruh just look at the height and distance...

[@yohanes2034]

Jason 3F out of that spiral is difficult and perfectly executed and the last one on the list, the 3F was coming out of steps while Nathan 4F was out of 2 foot skating. I think it's deserved if you compared the 2

[@user-kh9ki3kq8m]

he was awarded because his jump was higher (given the revolutions completed), more precise, had a more controlled landing, and covered more ground on the ice.

[@jennifer5512]

Ilia has beautiful jumps. Also, nice spins. Needs to work on skating skills

[@divinearia1601]

His spins are faster now than they were before but they still travel quite a bit so he needs more work. And, yeah, I completely agree about needing more work on the skating skills as well: flow, speed, edges, musicality, interpretation, expression...all need work, and his current PCS reflects all of that. He still skates like a junior, IMO, which isn't surprising. Hopefully that all improves with maturity and age.

[@01doha]

I think this shows the vagaries of GOE scores, I’ve seen better quality jumps scored much lower than this !

[@emmcampbell4434]

Will always prefer beautiful triple jumps by Jason over most men's quads tbh

[@Boymanjusri]

I suggest you look at Han YAN‘s triples… better

[@emmcampbell4434]

@@Boymanjusri Yes, I've seen Han Yan's jumps and they are also very nice but rn we're talking about Jason?? You're weird af

[@bobbygrey5834]

Nobody on men’s side attempts jumps with arms above the head though.

[@mikam8078]

Yuzuru does.

[@hannibaljustincase9985]

You most likely see a wave of young skater coming up with Rippon jumps as a way to stabilize the axis. generally speaking it is easier to jump this way once you get used to it, but the thing is majority of top man don't need it lol.

[@chloetang5734]

OMG 💕👍Nathan it’s the best

[@francisnguyen6349]

Awesome 4T.

[@divinearia1601]

Lol...I love how much all the Yuzuru fans here fear Nathan. They're so loving and supportive of any skater who is competing against Nathan(even Vincent with all his many, many issues), but watch them turn savage against these very same skaters on anything that might resemble any kind of a threat to their own idol. I wonder if they realize yet that Ilia Malinin will soon be gunning for Yuzuru. They're hoping he somehow surpasses Nathan but never catches up to their favorite.

[@개굴맨-i3s]

I don't understand why you're even referring to Yuzuru in a video that doesn't even come out and cursing his fans.Reading your other comments, I think you're Nathan's fan and it's ugly to frame other players and fans like this.

[@ghyslainewambst3518]

@@개굴맨-i3s bc there are other people referring to yuzu along with hating on Nathan’s skating

[@DarthV3622Fkm]

@@ghyslainewambst3518 I am going to be honest and profane: Fanyu are the fucking worst on Internet comments. Yuzuru is just a skater. He ain't God. Stop defending him like a religious zealots. 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@acheng10]

I thought the max GOE is 5. Why did Vincent Zhou got more than 5 for the 4Luz+3T?

[@haxicle5378]

I think the judges rate each jump with an integer between -5 and 5, but the actual GOE that translates to depends on the base value of each jump, where a greater base value the greater (or lower) the GOE.

[@jesuslover2468]

Think of GOE as the bonus percentage threshold for the base value of the jump. +1 means 10% bonus points based on base value of the harder jump on the combo (4Lz). +5 means 50% bonus points over BV. 4Lz base value = 11.5, so +5 GOE means 11.5 + 5.75 (which is 50% of 11.5) =17.25

[@EnzoFoove]

What Jesus said 👆🏻

[@jesuslover2468]

@@EnzoFoove lol xd

[@benbailey159bb]

I don't understand what you mean by "perfectly scored"?

[@kadovax6567]

What's your opinion? Do you agree?

[@benbailey159bb]

@@kadovax6567 When I clicked it thought it meant elements that had got a perfect all +5s but it isn't that. Then I thought it meant elements that were correctly scored but it's not that either. So I was just curious what the title was meant to mean?

[@skatergirl1247]

@@benbailey159bb I think the highest GOEs

[@haxicle5378]

Basically got the highest GOE’s from the judges.

[@haxicle5378]

I do not understand FS scoring; how were Nathan’s and Vincent’s triple axels worth the same?? 💀💀

[@user-qs5ix4nj9r]

no literally the difference in entry difficulty is glaringly obvious here especially

[@divinearia1601]

@@user-qs5ix4nj9r...because the difficulty of the entry isn't a requirement to scoring the same/high GOE?

[@user-qs5ix4nj9r]

@@divinearia1601 i never said it was a requirement, but if you looked at the guidelines for marking goe nathan should not be getting the same goe that vincent gets on the 3A when the quality of vincent’s 3A is much better: flow, entry and exit.

[@divinearia1601]

@@user-qs5ix4nj9r...flow was about the same. And I don't know what you mean by entry and exit. Are you talking about transitions in and out of the jump? If not, what about the entry and exit are you referring to?

[@user-qs5ix4nj9r]

@@divinearia1601 yeah, vincent has actual transitions in and out of his 3A

[@oneurope]

So only one of these was “perfectly scored”

[@lacefern7347]

Why do I see Jason on this video lol

[@Mineralmango]

1:24 watch his landing on the triple toe. Yikes!

[@似テ非ナルモノ]

レベルが高いのか低いのかよく解らんな

[@liudmila9377]

🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄

[@censoredyoutube4902]

Wow, salty hanyus can't stop stalking Nathan, grabbing every chance to downgrade him. These people talk as if having PTSD and living in agony, so much hate in their language against Nathan. Really pathetic!

[@joyjoyjoy9451]

ネイサンの金メダルは確実なのは誰でもわかってる。たとえネイサンのフリーがボロボロでも羽生が4A成功ノーミスしてもネイサンが勝つ。アメリカによる羽生のネガティブキャンペーンとロビー活動は抜かりないので。だからしらける。でもね、日本の羽生ファンはネイサンをリスペクトしてる。人柄も演技も。でもアメリカのネイサンファンは羽生に苦しんで○ね、とかまた原爆を日本に落としてやろうかとか醜く罵る。どうして？アメリカは世界の正義、日本は悪だから？日本人はフィギュアが大好き。ネイサンファンもたくさんいる。でもアメリカ人は羽生に○ねという。なんで？

[@Ana-oj3hn]

choosing brown over malinin for OG is not only robbing malinin, but the whole US figure skating team

[@divinearia1601]

There is no robbing. Nobody ever promised Ilia a spot on the Olympics team just for getting on the podium at the nationals. The rules and criteria were made clear to all the skaters long ago. If he didn't meet those criteria then he didn't earn a spot.

[@bubundun8508]

There is a huge difference between seeing Jason and Nathan on ice. Jason is indeed a figure skater, the other will never be a figure skater. Nathan is just junp and overrated scolres , he's a bore. Even Vincent became an admirable skater, his skate skils is so beautiful, fluid, elegant, reminds me of Patrick Chen.

[@robot_pylesos]

Vincent's technique is way worse then Nathan's. Underrotations and prerotations, full blade tecnique, while Nathan's jumps are almost textbook (as well as Ilia's)

[@bubundun8508]

@@robot_pylesos I didn't talk about technique, we all know that Vincent has problems with his edges and yes he needs to be punished for that whenever it happens. But he's been improving and pushing himself. I'm really talking about passion and heart on ice. I feel Vincent's performance, his heart is delivered on Ice and that's a pleasure to watch. The short program is so beautiful, it was touching to see. Nanthan on Ice is boring and colder, than the ice rink, he doesn't enchant, even with his good entry technique in the jumps it's just good, not great, not textbook, usually lacks better marking the edges and his landings are bad, always ugly with the knees stretched out.

[@hekoriginaljni6489]

Jason is the only one skater I am not bored to watch. But this time I couldn't forget Ilia, his energy was exploding the rink. What do you think of him in terms of artistry?

[@divinearia1601]

Your comment is a total snooze. Nathan has hundreds of thousands of fans who love his subtle and more natural artistry. If it's not for you, it's not for you but calling him not a true skater is what childish, insecure, jealous children do. I could say a lot about Jason but I don't need to stoop to your level.

[@bubundun8508]

@@hekoriginaljni6489 I liked, but honestly he didn't catch my attention. let's see how he evolves This season Vincent moved me, I went to tears watching him at Skate America 2021, I wasn't expecting that, he evolved a lot during the Olympic cycle. It is for these moments that we love to see this sport so much We should be thankful every day, for Jason to keep competing, he is wonderful

[@tugyh3087]

The vast majority of Hanyu's fans are not afraid of amarican skaters. We respect them if they skate and jump well 😉. And I would bet that a lot of Hanyu's fans follow the other skaters too, because only by that way we can fully appretiate Hanyu's perfection 😊🤗...

[@divinearia1601]

If you're that sure and secure then why not just smile, say "good job", and move on? Why the need to constantly attack and belittle other skaters like jealous little children?

[@tugyh3087]

@@divinearia1601 all I have seen bellow this video are the attacks and disrespect towards Yuzuru Hanyu and his fans. If those fans do not like such bahavior, why they did the same to the others?...

[@divinearia1601]

@@tugyh3087...This is a video about American skaters. Is there a need for Yuzuru fans to even be here criticizing the Americans? If anyone said anything about Yuzuru or fanyus, it's because people are defending some of these American skaters who are being attacked. I think you should open up your eyes.

[@tugyh3087]

I am not here to argue... I am here because I am curious and want to know what is happening around in figure skating word. However, If you haven't seen those dirty comments, you must be blind.

[@divinearia1601]

@@tugyh3087...check the very first comments. Nothing but attacks on Nathan from insecure fanyus. Who attacked who first?

[@CarlitosJS]

Fakeson Brown