I wonder if the "ninja frog assassin" beta design for Politoed later became the inspiration for Greninja? They might not look very similar, but in concept they sound exactly the same.
@shawnlegg87902 жыл бұрын
That what I was thinking. Politoad x Greninja
@aurahoneydew96072 жыл бұрын
I don't think so think someone just pitched a new idea completely divorced of the prior and it's a coincidence.
@ShinyTogeticFTW2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too
@amberestie66052 жыл бұрын
The electric tiger into zeraora and so on. Some of the beta Pokémon were defidently redesigned into newer Pokémon so I believe it!!
@paulinawang12 жыл бұрын
I actually think that the ‘ninja frog assassin’ beta design looks a bit too similar to Froakie
@PragMagik2 жыл бұрын
The Beta Politoed is ADORABLE! It just looks like it wants a hug 🥰
@kuramayoko232 жыл бұрын
I'd give it a hug.
@glennmorganfan94112 жыл бұрын
Yeah! No idea where he got "Sinister" from that sprite. Only REAL difference I see is that it had a NECK.
@Blvssfvl2 жыл бұрын
You sit on a throne of lies
@SuperPcPenguin2 жыл бұрын
Now i want to give him a hug
@ZimVerse2 жыл бұрын
"How Many Beta Pokémon Related Videos Do You Wanna Make?" Hoops: *Yes*
@monsterteamtr64882 жыл бұрын
I was going to read that hoopas lol
@shelbybayer2002 жыл бұрын
That Mew design Would've actually explained why Mewtwo looks the way it/he does
@MogusMasterSaikawa222 жыл бұрын
We already have one he’s not a perfect clone?
@nnachi92032 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo wasn't supposed to be, mewtwo was designed to be better.. The team rocket scientists meant for him/it to better and a weapon to control. The person you are responding to is talking about design wise; before they came up with mewtwo's story they had to design it first. Also its been explained by the pokemon games that imperfect clones are actually ditto so no mewtwo is not an imperfect clone.l of mew. Mewtwo is perfect+more and stated story wise to be the strongest psychic type due to the way the scientists designed him.
@MogusMasterSaikawa222 жыл бұрын
@@nnachi9203 mhmm
@glennmorganfan94112 жыл бұрын
Gyarados looks like the Mongolian Death Worm. Seel is one of my favorites. I love how adorable it is. umm.....Politoad doesn't look like "a complete 180".....It actually looks fairly similar to what it does now. The only difference I can see is that it has a NECK......and that does NOT look menacing. The "Plain" Sneasel looked more like a cross between Persian and Mienshao What in the heck did they do to Porygon2??? What happened between one and two? How do you go from Blocky Duck to Bubble Lion???
@silversonic12 жыл бұрын
It's important to note that Gen 2 likely had to change a lot due to the game's unexpected success in the west. It could explain the changes to Celebi. I should also point out that Gen 1's Venusaur likely existed well before Bulbasaur and Ivysaur. There were nearly 3 dozen Pokemon in the earlier stages of development. Just as they eventually added types, they also added evolution. It's often stated that the final stage is usually the first designed before working backwards to their first. This was said to be the case for the starters. And lastly, Game Freak had registered the name Mew in the early days of development. It was the existence of the name that spurred Mewtwo's creation. Still, in Red and Green's development, the pixel art often came first when it came to art, meaning there likely were no actual designs drawn before being programmed. But it's actually kind of fitting. A Pokemon name from the early stages ended up being the last Pokemon created for the game. A Pokemon believed to be the ancestor of all Pokemon ending up as sort of an alpha and omega for those titles, as well as a promise of more Pokemon to catch. That's why I'm a Mew fan, BTW.
@tkfarms78822 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in an alternate timeline we have Bug/Dragon Scyther and its Scizor, Mega Scizor, and Kleavor evolutions, and I want to see them.
@phantomhearts55772 жыл бұрын
Sneasly is actually base on a Japanese Yokai called Kamaitachi. thats why it look like that in the beta design. its pretty cool tbh. as Kamaitachi is a wind element monster who are stealthy as ninja. so yeah i can actually see that design to work tbh.
@hunterlavish2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought Scyther looked very draconic and wanted a blue dragon type evolution to go with his red scizor one since gen 2. This makes his design make a lot more sense since the original was pretty much a dragon! With the release of Kleavor, the idea came back to me, and developered further (I always thought the name would have to start with an S), but here it is! Lansor - Bug/Dragon. Stats - 70/125/75/45/65/120 Ability - Stance Change - using King's Shield will swap Lansor's ATK and DEF stats, and his SPEED and SP.DEF stats. (70/75/125/45/120/65) Hidden Ability: Technician Appearance: blue and tan like the Kingdra color palette. It leans into Scythers dragon face and feet features more heavily and has dragonfly wings and abdomen (the iconic tail). Its arms are lances, with a dragon-bone type spike at the tip, but its not just a beedrill clone, the lances also can open and retract like an umbrella to function as a shield. When opened, the shields will have 5 spokes, each with another dragon-bone spike on it, and be positioned like an upside-down star to resemble the silhouette of a dragon head. I also have an idea for a Bug/Fairy or Bug/Psychic evolution called Sceptor. its more feminine like a mix of Scizor and Feramosa, but pink colored (if fairy, purple if psychic). it has sceptors for hands and is a special attacker.
@toondrake59642 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite beta concepts was the original girafarig design, the dude had two fully formed giraffe heads, one good one evil. It looked more like the pushmi-pullyu concept they probably intended, now they turned my boy into dex fodder. Here’s hoppin’ that they give him a new evolution in some future African-region game!
@TsuriaDragon2 жыл бұрын
Beta Sneasel looks amazing plus the second design looks very close to Mienfoo design from Gen 5
@ElysetheEevee2 жыл бұрын
The Celebi design one brings me back to the year 2000-2001 when the Kokopelli (I honestly forget how to spell it now) we're very popular as a decorating feature. My mom had random stuff around the house with it, it was in stores at the time. I think that's funny and interesting.
@Oblivian-ek1cu2 жыл бұрын
Hope we can one day see some if these designs as regional variants especially seel lol
@LadyLeomon2 жыл бұрын
The alternate Mew in the thumbnail honestly looks like it could be a pre-evolution of Mega-Mewtwo-Y and I love it 😍😍😍
@wzronn2 жыл бұрын
Mega mew
@garettturbettmusic2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if some of these beta designs became regional forms!
@Vini-BR2 жыл бұрын
That proto Gyarados isn't a "faceless worm", but a lamprey Pokemon, like Eelektross
@r3gret20792 жыл бұрын
Yo, the "Mecha-Bulbasaur" lookin thing in that image looks super cool, and interesting as hell. Edit: "Omega" at 3:08
@orsonzedd2 жыл бұрын
Bulbasaur didn't exist when Ivysaur/Venusaur was designed. Evolution wasn't a concept yet, and only became one after types were thought up. THe Pokemon were basically added in the order they were designed so if you check the index number you can get a feel for which Pokemon were designed in which batches. and what roles they filled.
@glitchy24992 жыл бұрын
Scyther’s original design looks a lot like a parting mantis with its arm position. I feel like if they could have slightly tweaked the design, or kept it the same even, I personally think it would make a great baby Pokémon, because in my mind, scyther, jinx, electabuzz, and magmar, seem to go along with eacother. I can’t explain it though
@chrisflan2572 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I’ve always grouped these 4 together too!
@julioflores59462 жыл бұрын
To me, the old Wobbafet looks a little lime Wynaut.
@chelseamcguire79582 жыл бұрын
I really want to know how the new forms of dialga and palkia in LA first looked for beta
@ghost_curse2 жыл бұрын
Beta Wobbuffet honestly looks like a fusion between Shuppet and Castform
@phillipmistarz44302 жыл бұрын
I feel like Generation 9 will be a reality, this year... they use to do a 3 to 4 year after the next gen, generation 8 was in 2019. In Legends Arceus There are many new pokemon with new variants from gen 5 in gen 4. 4 + 5 = 9 generation confirms.
@Dip7man2 жыл бұрын
stop
@mr.mexican5012 жыл бұрын
that’s a coincidence and that im certain of
@oliverdavies52332 жыл бұрын
But there is gen 6 and 7 and 2
@alunaspider22132 жыл бұрын
gen 9 announced today!
@Crobat72692 жыл бұрын
This aged like fine honey
@AshXXMayftw2 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, I'd love to see Gyarados's beta design repurposed into an all new pokemon. It kind of reminds me of the Graboids from Tremors, giant, eyeless worms that seek out prey using sounds and vibrations from above ground.
@heatherreagan80782 жыл бұрын
But would it be a ground/bug typing? Ground/dark? Or bug/dark?
@AshXXMayftw2 жыл бұрын
@@heatherreagan8078 If we're going by Graboid standards, probably ground/rock, since in the movie they used small spikes sticking out from their sides to move through the dirt and rock.
@nickdentoom11732 жыл бұрын
That Beta Seel was deffo used as inspiration for Walrein.
@chandlerwright54602 жыл бұрын
And beta politoad might have been an inspiration for Greninja
@Lucky-Nick1232 жыл бұрын
Scyther looks adorable to be honest and i like it
@ryanrushing36532 жыл бұрын
I actually really like that "Proto" Seel lol
@laneleach2 жыл бұрын
THAT COULD BE THE ANCIENT VERSION OF MEW IF HE GETS HIS OWN LEGENDS GAME!!!
@Vini-BR2 жыл бұрын
It would be fun if we someday had regional forms based on those early designs
@krverde2 жыл бұрын
Bulbasaur was actually designed very late into the game’s development by Atsuko Nishida to make the Ivysaur/Venusaur line a starter Pokémon, so it probably had a bulb for its entire conception
@anthonywilliamces39492 жыл бұрын
Given how Bulbasaur looks like without the bulb, maybe the substitute doll thing was their original design, they look pretty similar
@ProfessorDeku-kh7ek2 жыл бұрын
We need to talk about that weird tank in professor Laventon‘s office 🧐 Like could it possibly be used to harness the power of the space-time distortions and that’s how we send and get Pokémon from Pokémon Home and BDSP It’s giving me Old timey Bills Time capsule vibes 🤔🤔🤔
@puggysmall31362 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the water tank? If so, that’s oshawots little container if you don’t pick him (like how cyndaquil has the furnace and rowlet has the tree)
@medo54172 жыл бұрын
The naked Bulbasaur line is going to give me nightmares for weeks
@nathanialb.83942 жыл бұрын
I really want to see a game where ultra wormholes return and u can get beta Pokémon from them
@Amazayne2 жыл бұрын
I kinda love the Venusaur look, imagine mono type Poison Venusaur. I'd be down
@ElysetheEevee2 жыл бұрын
@@xavierperez6374 They were saying they'd be down for a MONOTYPE Poison type Venusaur variant. As in, just Poison type. I feel like your comment was a little weird and unnecessary to be honest...
@xavierperez63742 жыл бұрын
I get it now
@Beeimus2 жыл бұрын
I grew up visiting Arizona a lot. There are Kokopelli everywhere. I recognized that beta Celebi right away!
@verylostdoommarauder2 жыл бұрын
So, Celebi was originally going to be based on a native American deity? That means that Johto could have ended up having more native American representation in the Pokedex than Unova, a region based on the continental US. Thank goodness that when they were designing gens 6-8 they actually focused on designing Pokemon based on stuff from the area that the region is based on.
@gustavju46862 жыл бұрын
The fertility thing explains the grass type (and maybe why it wasn't reconned into a Fairy).
@The_Coffee_Man2 жыл бұрын
Proygon almost pulled a digimon. Duck evolving into a lion.?
@timboslice98932 жыл бұрын
the idea of kokopelli has actually traveled through all the americas in several forms and shifts in meaning. in mexico, the kokopelli figure is known as xochopilli, meaning prince of flowers. its likely that this iteration is the inspiration of celebi, my guess anyways
@julieta86832 жыл бұрын
So happy that the final Pokémon designs we see today stayed because I believe they wouldn't be as popular and loved as they are now 😊
@glazedervgc4602 жыл бұрын
12:30 , Spicy what?!?!? 😂 Awesome video!
@salamence32662 жыл бұрын
They can make a whole new game with all this beta designs in 3D and everyone would buy it. It will probably be the best seller
@kingzant992 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Latias/Blaziken to be on this list
@TurkeyFaceX2 жыл бұрын
15:01 Porygon 2's nickname: Windows 69 I laughed.
@madnessarcade74472 жыл бұрын
14:19 perhaps the shop needed a mascot and gamefreak sold them the rights to that design or something
@gustavju46862 жыл бұрын
I like the grumpy Seal more (more creative looking) xD
@FTChomp99802 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the beta Pokemon return as new pokemon in future pokemon games because one I would love to see is water starter and fire starter beta pokemon would be awesome to see!
@MasterArchfiend2 жыл бұрын
That little “ninja frog assassin” description just went and made me imagine the Politoed we have as a jolly little Japanese merchant.
@_flyga2 жыл бұрын
Gyarados was a water bear, its a microscopic tipe of life ^^ they are pretty cute
@HOLYGORILLATHEREAL2 жыл бұрын
Love the vid keep up the hard work
@HoopsandHipHop2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 😄
@DantheGif2 жыл бұрын
Scyther looked dragon-esque, because typings weren't adding until late. Originally "sickle creature" became "mantis with sickles" when Bug Type was added. It wasn't because it was intended to be a Bug/Dragon
@sgtleppard2 жыл бұрын
This was rather interesting! Side note, as soon as I saw the Porygon2 nicknamed "Windows 69", my brain immediately went "PIMPNITE???" That clip's from his Porygon2 sweep -- the salt was real
@devonteedwards20932 жыл бұрын
If there old design was still here today it would be something crazy
@bigcooltony4372 жыл бұрын
It’d be sick if Nintendo made a Pokémon game that uses all of the beta Pokémon designs, but I doubt they would do that though.
@Arkan9elCastiel2 жыл бұрын
Ayo. That Cubone nickname at around 12:30 is looking kinda sus 👀
@phorchybug32862 жыл бұрын
That Mewtwo is SO CUTE!!! He deserves that type of remake!!! I WANT IT!!!!!
@omppul2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see how different the designs were, but still have nods to them in the final designs
@craftyourfancymore2 жыл бұрын
So...evolving Porygon to Porygon2...it was supposed to go from blocky duck to a lion? Although it's very cute, I'm glad they changed it
@ShinyTogeticFTW2 жыл бұрын
15:00 I recognize that Porygon2's nickname... Is that footage of one of PIMPNITE's battles?
@phorchybug32862 жыл бұрын
Brown Celebi actually looks pretty sick♥️. I just like it.
@bugspray85462 жыл бұрын
I started legit dying when he was saying “deadly ninja frog assassin” and then proceeded to show the design like dude it’s so cute it’s actually funny
@fusionmvp2 жыл бұрын
I love this video! The 2nd version of Beta Sneasel makes me think of Mienshao
@metanightmare44542 жыл бұрын
The first one makes me think of Shadow the Hedgehog.
@heatherreagan80782 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Put the 'sleeves' on the ends of the arms and make the muzzle a bit more pointed and boom! Mienshao.
@glennmorganfan94112 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. It's like a mix of Mienshao and Persian.
@GSharp662 жыл бұрын
Did anybody else see what that Marrowak was named 😨
@hawkfeather68022 жыл бұрын
13:44 It looks like a little robot lion. It's very cute!
@AfterTheFirstNever2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video hoops!
@forgerofsouls91262 жыл бұрын
That black figure at roughly 4:30 into the video made me think of Mr. Game and Watch instead of the Pokemon that followed. And that thing that was originally Wobbuffet, reminds me of Wynaut for some reason.
@megaplays27482 жыл бұрын
Every single time I see the beta design for Porygon2, I think of Kon from Bleach, but I kinda doubt that this design was meant to be a reference to it (I don't even know if Bleach was a thing at that time)
@harikiranv85802 жыл бұрын
3:45 hopefully they use a ver of this design as tardigrade mon in future.
@madnessarcade74472 жыл бұрын
And they repurposed the deadly frog ninja assassin concept for greninja so that’s cool Beta politoed in a way could be considered a beta greninja as well
@kingzant992 жыл бұрын
You: "a deadly frog ninja" The image in question: a frog about to cry bc no one's accepting his hugs
@ShillClown2 жыл бұрын
LOVED beta Politoed, what a cute froggie :_) 💚
@nathanesser70402 жыл бұрын
Beta politoed resembles chuck a bit which is interesting since he uses poliwrath as his ace so politoed might have been his ace originally.
@TrisFireblood2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your channel off and on for a couple years now, and I JUST realized that the flame burst on your title screen is a Cyndaquil’s back flame 🤣😅
@flameblitz172 жыл бұрын
4:27 it's ... Sanic🤣 Bruh, Sneasle's first beta looks like Sonic as well. But my fave is the beta Politoed... It would've made me appreciate Politoed more.
@macwelch85992 жыл бұрын
What if we got a new Pokémon region that didn’t have brand new Pokémon, but only Regional Forms?
@jashpippins82282 жыл бұрын
Hisui
@macwelch85992 жыл бұрын
@@jashpippins8228 Hisui had both. I’m talking about 100 Regional Forms, period
@xavierperez63742 жыл бұрын
Sounds cool to me
@macwelch85992 жыл бұрын
@@xavierperez6374 it would be a familiar experience to older fans, but the types are all different. For example, Bunaery and Lopunny being Fairy/Fighting type
@CyborgCharlotte2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think elements of the beta Gyrados were used when designing the Tynamo line? It’s entirety possible
@isaacchef5982 жыл бұрын
The first beta sneasel looks a bit like shadow the hedgehog, at least in my opinion
@VictorHernandez-nj2lo2 жыл бұрын
Beta Sneasel 1 looks like Shadow the hedgehog
@Noblewynter2 жыл бұрын
That politoed beta design is adorable and I feel cheated! Politoed could have easily been one of my favorite pokemon if it looked like that still.
@MoostachedSaiyanPrince2 жыл бұрын
I actually like Beta Seel more than the one we got. Regular Seel is very boring by comparison. Plus, if it got an evolution, it could've turned into something bigger and tankier, like some kind of massive angry elephant walrus.
@UnyPhi2 жыл бұрын
The wobbafet one looks like a top down, but the tail is now the eye
@ghost_rick_the_ghostian2 жыл бұрын
i was hoping to see the gible line in this video but ya dind add it kinda sad about but future good video
@metanightmare44542 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just that the sprite is hard to make out, but I don't think the first beta Sneasel looks bad. It looks cute with its little sharp-toothed grin in a spoopy, Nightmare Before Christmas kinda way, just like a lot of Ghost-types. Not saying I'd replace the final design for it since Weavile is my favorite Dark-type and favorite Ice-type, as well as being tied with Garchomp for my 3rd favorite pokemon overall, but I don't know if that placement would necessarily change if it followed along with this design either. As for Seel, which I also already have some fondness for, I think if you just tweak the expression to be a bit more upbeat and maybe save a more aggressive expression for Dewgong, it might actually be better than the final design. Borrowing a bit from the final design, I'd give Dewgong bigger fangs and a large horn made of ice, effectively making it a sort of hybrid between a seal/dugong, a narwhal, and this cat aspect it seems to have in the beta.
@roxasbaker2 жыл бұрын
Did porygon 2 beta design ended up being used on the lion Pokémon in gen 6
@danielpruitt85502 жыл бұрын
I like beta gyarados. looks like a crazy worm pokemon like from a sci-fi film
@andrewv.91422 жыл бұрын
what is your source for the leaked Wobuffet and dark Sneasel sprite? never seen those before
@gooma79422 жыл бұрын
14:20 one of Nintendo designers were probably just contracted to design a mascot for them and they conveniently already had a concept.
@Official_JMTA-project2 жыл бұрын
12:32 Mac Donald and spicy 🐓😂😂😂
@earthboundfan94462 жыл бұрын
I know no one will see this but I really want to get this out somehow there's a quest in legends involving magikarp with the character ceci I know some of you might not know what they look like but she has the hair of erika mostly the hgss design even a kimono
@justineazrort27082 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure 6:00 returned as Wynaut, Wobuffet's baby stage
@lindapenttinen33822 жыл бұрын
I love those early desings ❤❤❤ I hope we can see them again in offical games as regional forms or even as new Pokemon ❤❤❤❤❤ Please, we need dragon/bug Pokemon 😁
@TheAngryEgg.2 жыл бұрын
Politoad looks so freaking different
@fireembliam90902 жыл бұрын
3:07 Wow That Gyrados looks like a bug/Dark Pokemon.
@brotquel15922 жыл бұрын
Sooo... the OG Sneasel was either Shadow the edgyhog or Mienfoo? Neat!
@HyperManSP2 жыл бұрын
I was searching the comments thinking "really, it NO one gonna say it!" lol
@circledude23622 жыл бұрын
Politoad beta was early ideas for greninja.
@darkzarth Жыл бұрын
Gyardoses previous form looks like a tapeworm or a lampray with legs. I'm thinking that gyradoses original design might have been used in elektrik and electross as they are also based on lamprays. Also their design looks similar
@megaspit2 жыл бұрын
Early sneasel = shadow the hedgehog
@betterine2 жыл бұрын
3:21 Explains why gyarados is called the atrocious pokemon.
@romanimations71702 жыл бұрын
I actually think the original Seel is really cute, I would've preferred it over the fairly plain design we have now.