10 Reasons NOT To Buy A Used Mercedes (Says the Lexus Owner)

[@thomashelm6931]

Excellent presentation! One of the best, most recently, considering that all have been good information. Substitute BMW for the Mercedes Brand and the depreciation schedule is applicable, too. Even after significant depreciation after 3 years, it continues at 5. 1/4 of the new value. But I'm NOT driving the washing machine or refrigerator (Lexus) at any time. JS.

[@ECPP]

Thanks a lot Thomas, that is greatly appreciated. Really the most important priority for me as well is to enjoy what I drive and forego the absolute boring car for the sake of a notch bit more resale or “Perceived reliability”. Have a great one. Any further updates on your next purchase? There are so e good choices out there right now on the performance car market for sure. Cheers

[@thomashelm6931]

@@ECPP Yes, my selection is a 911. A turbo would be ideal and there are some great values on 996 turbos. But, for many reasons, I may go for a 997.2 or 991, non-turbo. I have yet to see how my surgically repaired back will deal with a clutch. My BMW and 4Runners are, obviously, automatics. I feel as though rowing through gears is the ultimate experience for a sports car. Long story short, there are physical elements that shall dictate what I select. Although the tiptronic is okay, from what I hear, the dual clutch transmission in the 991 is more desirable and fairly stout. My search just not just limited to Washington State. There are a number of different options originating out of California. I don't think I can go wrong with the 911, aloe I am not really enamored with the 996, regardless of price point, non-turbo.

[@thomashelm6931]

I am sweating bullets with my 2015 335i, hoping to get out of it, at 45,000 mi, before something goes sideways. I'd rather take that repair bill and apply it to a nice 911. IMO.

[@ECPP]

@@thomashelm6931 For sure Thomas. The 911 is the benchmark for sure. The later n55 powered 335's like yours is better than the earlier n54 cars but they are still a bit fragile. Fun either way and if you can wrench, then its not too bad.

[@ECPP]

@@thomashelm6931 I would pass on the TIP and spend a bit more even if its early gen 991 and the PDK which is much better IMHO. Thats why the 997 turbos with the TIP are selling for 3/4 the price of a similar manual. 996 Turbos are great, but watch for weak synchros, leaking aluminum water pipes, oil leaks from cam housing and faulty wing hydraulics, all of which can cost a pretty penny. Great cars either way.

[@kev7355]

Modern Lexus ( Lexi? ) do not drive like a refrigerator or a washing machine anymore. The old Lexus of yore probably, but take any newer ones for a spin. They drive amazingly well.

[@joey3564]

I have a LC500. No 14k, no issues. 6 people in my family have Mercedes. All have had issues

[@derekowens1435]

Wow. You seem kinda upset with Lexus fans. Look I love Lexus, but Lexus does have flaws. And I do think Mercedes has the best interior in the business. So much so I'm actually considering leasing a C Class, or CLA. But make no mistake, I still think Lexus is Premium, and disagree with you calling the entire brand refrigerators.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for watching, and I make reference to the refrigerator piece talking about the vanilla versions line the ES even if they are reliable. I still like the RCF, ISF, LFA, LC500 etc because they deliver a bit more on the passion of the drive.

[@derekowens1435]

@@ECPP Thanks for the Reply. I think those Vanilla Lexus ES sell a whole lot because of the Reliability. It allowed Lexus the money to make an LFA. So the world or at least Lexus needs those type cars, to build a new high performance track to upgrade those cars. At least Lexus is trying hard to get better performance.

[@fastboatster]

I don't think he's only one upset with Lexus fans. Not all are bad, but many love to lecture you how bad and unreliable your German car is just to say something negative and make it feel bad about your new to you car

[@abinsaji4449]

@1018miamidrive ok are you expecting to live forever human life has no guarantee then why would you want a car with 100% guarantee look its just me but I care about value for a car and experience and I dont get that in a toyota and how much they over price then in dealerships and their cheap interior quality reliability is the last thing I care about you can and its not my problem but german engineering is one of the best engineering imo my parents always owned toyota and I honestly dont like the experience I would like to experience what a bmw will be like

[@arame29]

@1018miamidrive what was your annual mileage

[@mwalsh7500]

First off thank YOU Second: I have owned 99 430 clk 100k mikes bought new .... no issues.... 500 CL. 60k. Trouble free no issues.... currently E 350 coupe. 113k miles certified from 42k miles ... no issues except an alternator which has not occurred in these other machines... also 08 SL 550. 62k ... certified from 28k miles..... no major issues ... only rotors, hydronic suspension receiver 2 x and a secondary water pump ..... that is IT! I have wondered with the likes of Scotty Kilmer if I was just the luckiest guy on the planet.....I am dead serious NO ISSUES...NO HEROICS..... excellent autos and I would do it all again to not drive a jellybean or “refrigerator “. Thanks so much for this video in particular and your others ..... and for you who contemplate a purchase of a MB or two..... Remember this ..... I am 62 years old..... I am an owner and drive my autos ... even cross country... I have lived with four now..... excellent vehicles!!!!! Regards Matt. Oh and ‘it’s true life is way way to short to drive boring autos’. Amen brother

[@ECPP]

100 percent great comment and I really appreciate your reply as it is much appreciated. Cars reLly are about more than basic transportation. Cheers

[@ngoandrew8]

You seem to have an issue with Lexus hybrid. The whole battery replacement cost about US$4000. But nowadays, it can be repaired under US$1000 by replacing faulty individual cells. The hybrid components are warranty 10 years and 150,000 miles. Unlike European cars, you failed to illustrate that same components can fail multiple times within a short period of times. For some, time spent in workshop is longer than driving. Lexus is not perfect but I will definitely spend very much less on maintenance and repair.

[@troytruong8246]

Good point. Thanks for sharing. Been looking at gs450H! So rare to find one!

[@vintagehaynesflute]

I’ve had 9 Mercedes-Benz cars in my lifetime, all used and all (except a brief but expensive fling with a E class BlueTec) I’ve never had a problem. Four reached 500,000 km before I sold them. I’ll never own anything but Mercedes-Benz!

[@ECPP]

There are many great cars from the brand and oddly many people take shots at the brand.

[@thomashelm6931]

I took a chance on a Mercedes 240D. "Chance" the wrong word, as that car was simple and virtually bulletproof. It was a simple manual transmission, gutless, but an attractive car even 20 some odd years ago. My family and I felt safe in it and it was very reliable. Two of my kids took their driver's licensing test in it, clutch and all and passed. I drove it forever.

[@agstrk]

Good for you!

[@DLN-ix6vf]

Bottom line is there are two types of cars in the world ; There's Mercedes Benz and then there are the rest ! :)

[@StaffordLewis1]

@ExoticCar Playplace. The lexus owners are on the money with Mercedes Benz. Mercedes resale are very low due to their maintance/repairs and the market understands it. Even I can get one at a cheap price.

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@officesuperhero9611]

A couple of months ago I bought a new Mercedes GLE 450 SUV. And I agree with you: if you want a luxury car with dated and old technology, go for the Lexus. But if you are looking for real luxury and safety features, and latest technology, Mercedes is your car. The technology on my GLE is unbelievable cutting edge. And truly so enjoyable to drive.

[@ECPP]

Exactly Richard. They make some wonderful cars to drive for sureZ

[@VicMansaMusa]

Boring cars are the ones sitting at the dealership every week for repairs like my stupid Bmw!

[@ECPP]

Ouch

[@Tsond123]

I think this guy secretly hates Lexus ...

[@ECPP]

Not at all. I enjoy the version s that are fun to drive. Wallowey sedans need not apply.

[@ghchen1119]

@@ECPP You need to know now a day w/o Japanese parts, German cannot build a single car; And for Japanese, they do not need a single part from Germany, if they want. This is abosultely the truth. BTW - I worked in a German car eningeering company, projects contracted by VW, BMW and MB. As for the electric parts and materials, German are way way way behind Japan. Period. .

[@penvon]

Ya think?

[@gregpst77]

@@ghchen1119 preach brother!

[@abinsaji4449]

@@ghchen1119 they really need to fix their electrics but the driving experience and joy is better on a german car than any other car on the market

[@nathangoodman603]

Two things I've always been told... 1. If you can't afford to buy a BMW new, don't bother. 2. Unless you know how to replace and work on a BMW, you'll hate it the second you have the first issue. Because once a part fails, it goes downhill. Personally, I'll take outdated technology over innovation if it means the outdated actually works. There's a reason Lexus is behind BMW and Mercedes in technology. Not because they don't care but because they test it so much longer to make sure its reliable unlike BMW.

[@VanquishMediaDE]

Modern Mercedes (made within the last 10-12 years) are far more reliable than older models, while Mercedes is not as reliable as a Toyota (Lexus) or a Honda, Mercedes has come very far compared to where the brand use to be in terms of reliability and dependability. In the last-10-15 years BMW and Audi have taken a nose dive and do not care about dependability.

[@marq333]

Mercedes in general is a boring car to drive unless it’s an AMG or maybe even an AMG sport. Most all BMW M cars and even regular non-M cars are fun to drive than most Mercedes. Mercedes more luxury, BMW more sporty fun. Lexus generally fills the gap of blend of luxury and sport while retaining refinement in ride quality, durability and reliability. Both brands are great regardless. But Lexus ages much better than ANY brand if you want to talk used car market which most people are in.

[@thinussteyn2797]

This guy is very biased towards BMW and Mercedes, I dont even feel like watching his videos anymore. The fact is Lexus is just beter built than the germans, it just is, and they last a long time because it is a quality product. The germans appear to be quality but once you start to peal back the layers you see gery quickly they are built cheaply for instance some strategic BMW engine parts are plastic, the V8’s timing chain guide, plastic, alot of the interiour plastics are cheap and nasty. Do yourself a favour next time you sit in a Merc, sit in the back and touch the centr console, ita cheap scratchy plastic, which you would expect in a entry level Kia. You wont fine that in a Lexus.

[@chriskragel6451]

Appreciation is based on demand and original sticker price. Mercedes are priced high to retain exclusivity and indicate quality, which overwhelmingly, Mercedes do have above average quality. Every car depreciates. Some more than others. You should never look at a car as an investment. It is only a liability. The point is to simply get something you love and that safely transports you from one place to another. Buying a used Mercedes, especially after the 4th or 5th year, will help you bypass a good portion of that depreciation curve. As long as you get a dependable model and one with a good service record, you should be fine.

[@ameraboukoura6091]

Because they are super unreliable break down easily and some like to hang out in shops which can cost a lot of money to repair used German cars age like expired milk while cars from nihon including Lexus age like wine

[@ECPP]

So you feel that Benz is not a good choice?

[@MrRsw1138]

I would say my reason not to buy is talking with MB owners, huge bills on repairs and the RUST problems. And yes Lexus Hybrids are great until 150,000-200,000 miles then the bills add up, NOT a new revelation. And yes I am a Lexus SUV and a Corvette owner.

[@ThaGodLegacyHD]

I mean I owned a used one since 2015... It's still running at 145k miles. The depreciation is horrible though.

[@gtmike916]

Robert Williams So what brand would you recommend for performance then? Seems like a lot of the interesting ones have issues.

[@siddheshpillai3807]

@@ECPP yes

[@edwardroy3401]

My 2010 BMW 3 series has been a pleasure to own...extremely reliable with only 1 bad repair

[@ECPP]

Can’t go wrong with that

[@cato12]

How many miles? And what was the bad repair?

[@edwardroy3401]

@@cato12 About 91,000 miles now. Repair was replacing AC part that required removing the front dash...cost over $1,000.

[@vmax1399]

Wait till you get above 140000 miles and the timing chain shits itself. Lovely driving cars but they are not the engineers they think they AREcheaply made plastic connectors l wonder how much of the cars made in 🇨🇳 CHINA . The best thing is to lease the drop them like a stone when they stop working start whining and start gooseing around. That advice is also good for the women in your life.

[@edwardroy3401]

@@vmax1399 I'll dump it b4 then

[@gpboutabag8504]

I drive a 2013 lexus RX350 and I love it.

[@ECPP]

Solid cars

[@SS-qu6pm]

Mercedes-Benz has very common Camshaft problems!!! Engine light on and delayed starting engine with extra cranking, cuz a ton to repair and if you don’t get it fixed it will eventually cause engine failure

[@ECPP]

Sounds like a pain. I had an ML before which needed a crank sensor and would not start. Fixed and good after that.

[@lawrenceburls4673]

Had a E class 320cdi for 3 years lovely car to drive but a pain in the arse always electric problems ecu,lights EGR valve .Now got a Lexus 250is nice car no problems so far it feels better put together to me .

[@krolspeedu]

Every premium brand (M, AMG, RS, 911s) will depreciate a lot when out of warranty. If you can't afford one new, don't bother buying it used. Either lease or buy not-so-premium model which might give you similar fun or value for much less.

[@ECPP]

Totally agree. Have a great one.

[@donovanwallace1449]

Even he may seem to defend poorly engineered brands...he is still smart enough not to shield them to much from the fire of criticism they so deserve

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@sidharthchand8072]

Must be exciting waiting for the tow-truck in a Mercedes or bmw

[@ECPP]

Knocking on wood, but I also have never had to tow a BMW and they always make it to the shop on their own steam

[@harveycminusmansfiel]

@@ECPP Friend of mine got a used Mercedes C class. Car would break down every 6 months. Luckily he got it under warranty. What a disaster of a car company

[@azmike3572]

Well, you know, you find things to amuse yourself during the wait. Crossword puzzles, checking up on your emails, etc.

[@Comexcyc849]

Life is too short to drive boring cars but most Benz are not fun either, turbos on high performance models can boost performance a lot, on normal models maybe a little kick but not much of a difference but still expensive

[@ECPP]

That is true. Turbos should be used to add power not make of for power by creating a smaller engine for net zero improvements

[@SamLi-mm5eh]

ok, Mercedes is good. I am buying a Lexus.

[@ECPP]

Ouch

[@SamLi-mm5eh]

@@ECPP not a big fan of turbos. Thats it.

[@CAJFB]

Lexus reliability lasts co worker has a Rx with 300k miles on it I am sold on that alone.....

[@RothBeyondTheGrave]

Former Acura owner, now current 2010 e350 coupe owner. Acura had a bad vsa modulator which could only be replaced by another bad from factory unit at well above $2k. There were/are benefits to both cars, although I enjoy the Benz much more. It requires MUCH more of my involvement, but (to an extent) I like that. Overall, there's no comparison. Oddly enough, the Acuras interior quality was far above the Benz. There's interior wear/flaws which my moms Acura (at 100k mi MORE than my Benz) has zero signs of. However, a few minutes under the hood & a good number of diy's in, again there's no comparison. Do your research & avoid features which you don't want to deal with down the road (like airmatic, abc, sbc, etc) & you'll be fine. Hopefully hahaha

[@ECPP]

Absolutely great way to see it. You are right, every car has issues but learn what those are and deal I. Your way. If it’s too much try another car. Have an awesome day.

[@georgefrelingos8926]

Yeah, I like Lexus too, great cars that are reliable too. But a little out of my price range in Australia. I got a Mazda cx 30 instead and it's great. Japanese cars are better than german cars.

[@sidharthchand8072]

A Lexus will break Once every 5 to 10 years a BMW a break once every 2 to 3

[@ricogallardo6876]

An early gen R230 (04-07) is the best looking AMG SL. They generally run from 20 - 50 grand but buying a cleaner 40-50 grand one is still the best choice. So you still end up plowing $20 grand into to it the first couple of years, it still has better looks + attitude than the brand new ones which cost 3x the amount!

[@banggopal]

It depends where you lived. If you lived somewhere in europe, go ahead buy the merc or bmw, the parts are cheaper there, and most of people use it.

[@ECPP]

Thats probably true but they are still great drivers cars.

[@pfeamg9658]

Thanks for the video. Interesting topic as I have owned both Lexus and Mercedes. . I owned a new 2009 is350 for 10 years. Had a n/a 3.5 v6, ran 0-60 in 5 secs flat and handled pretty well with the option sport/brake package. Zero issues other than the right front strut went. Back then it blew away the c-class in interior materials finish, exterior styling and surprisingly even performance (non Amg cars) Fast forward 10 years and MB is knocking it out if the park. Exteriors look beautiful, interior is top notch and, in my case bought a c43 Amg, performance is outstanding. Lexus I feel has lost their way. Sorry the cars are just ugly imo (except the lc500, which I would buy in a heart beat but was way too expensive). Performance, even in the RCF is lacking and the tech and interiors are horrible. They need to do much better in those areas if they want to win back customers like me. Having the “most reliable brand” isn’t enough any longer.

[@Midwest..]

I love exterior and interior of the new Lexus 😎

[@pfeamg9658]

Vientiane Nevada that’s cool. Unfortunately most of their cars just are not working for me these days. I love the LC 500 though. Just a lil too expensive for me. If it was $80k vs $100 I may have seriously considered buying it. Would have at least test drove it. They are indeed reliable cars as well! Enjoy your ride 😃👍!

[@blackbeltfinance4026]

My brother has a 2017 Audi RS3. It’s a nice and fast car, but already having some little problems

[@ECPP]

What type of issues? Gearbox?

[@moechu7637]

u can't justify cost of repair if out of warranty , no matter what , thats why u just lease them & return it after its done , no fuss , luxury never justifies cost , unless $ is no object which for some is the case

[@dennisd9852]

Good video. Can't say I agree with everything said, but we're all adults here. Keep up the good work!

[@ECPP]

Thanks a lot Dennis. Have a great one.

[@qlpar]

11:38 to 12:06 😂 Great video and keep up the great work!

[@ECPP]

Thanks a lot. Much appreciated. What are your thoughts on Benz?

[@qlpar]

​@@ECPP Overall, I think Benz is a fantastic brand. Personally, I prefer some of their sporty and performance oriented offerings rather than the traditional luxury vehicles that Mercedes is well know for. I am a big fan of the AMG GT series. The AMG GT R and GT Pro are some of my favorite ones. I am hyped for the new GT Black Series! I would love to see BMW make a vehicle similar to the AMG GT series from Mercedes.

[@francis121826]

my suggestion is to lease both mercedes and bmw. BMW has a better lease program with free scheduled maintenance and the car is under warranty the whole time. There is a reason both Mercedes and BMW has really bad resale value and it has a lot to do with cost of repair.

[@starzgonzales4358]

I have a 2013 Acura TL ... Beautiful car .. no issues so far.. Its not turning into a money pit yet so we will see...

[@santillbrezon2161]

Your right , I like lexus and mercedes, i think they both have strengths and weaknesses but I think they are both beautiful brands with nice models and not so nice models, I think it is a personal choice. For instance I like the lexus Lc and the mercedes s class.

[@jimmycain8669]

I like my 12 cylinder Mercedes. Y’all can ride in what you like. Ride cheap if you like. I’ve never even been in a Toyota (except for a friend’s Tundra) in my life and I’m 73 years old. Now the cheap shit is expensive.

[@ECPP]

Nice cars

[@jordanbuttkevitz6895]

Every brand sales vehicles that are "boring" to drive - Mercedes and BMW are no exception. IMO the only Lexus worth owning are the F models and LC500, so much so I traded a 2017 BMW 340i mSport for a 2016 Lexus GSF and haven't looked back. However, I don't plan on going back to Lexus as they are phasing out v8 NA performance models for lackluster TT v6s and the non-F Lexus are not driver cars (F sport is a joke - they don't count). Looking forward to the new BMW M3/M4 - hopefully they bring back what BMW lost in the f80 M3 compared to older M3s.

[@ECPP]

Absolutely. The new M3 and M4 will be great cars to drive, no doubt.

[@JudeMarchisio]

Great video. Found your channel a few weeks ago and I'm really enjoying your content. I'm looking to get a Mercedes Benz CLS 2nd Gen (W218). What are your thoughts on this car?

[@ECPP]

I have always love the CLS from when it came out. Best of the breed would be the 63 series but any of the.m are great drivers.

[@JudeMarchisio]

@@ECPP Thanks for the input, I really appreciate it.

[@dyllanlegault1891]

The problem is is when people buy $100,000 Mercedes they don’t think there’s a maintenance cost after all the warranties over and if you buy $100,000 Mercedes you obviously made good money per hour so you can fix and repair or do maintenance and it really doesn’t affect any money you make because he makes good money an hour and a good wage every two weeks so it pays the bills it’s not that bad sometimes that’s just the way it is you buy a vehicle you know or any vehicle they’re gonna have some issues or maintenance is gonna be a little higher than normal call luxury tax

[@ECPP]

100 percent

[@dyllanlegault1891]

Like I own a Mercedes and bought it for years old but I known when I bought it it was gonna cost me a lot of money to maintain it but I’ll like I said who wants to buy a boring car and when you make a lot of money every two weeks doesn’t really bother you if it cost $3000 a year to maintain it and it still drives really good I’m not looking for a re-sellable Multiple Who Mercedes don’t resell their vehicles originally keep it There really good car and they are reliable as long as you keep up on the maintenance and keep everything running top shape you could have it for 20 years and all depends what you justify it and when I go to the Mercedes in the southside of Heritage valley I get 20% off of all the parts and I compared to the other places I just go with OEM no problems easy installation and I’ll work on my own vehicles simple

[@dyllanlegault1891]

The next biggest thing I’m doing is a Bilstein suspension on my car And a very good German engineering suspension taking the old suspension off putting brand new coil over set up gas compression coils better than the conventional oil shocks my car is nine years old and I never had much Issues probably the biggest thing I had in my car it’s a 2011 C300 All wheel drive fully loaded I love this car I don’t mind putting money in it it’s a hobby I just put brand new pilot super sport 4 is in one of the best tires I ever used Buying a Mercedes not a bad thing as a reason why lawyers and doctors drive it it’s one of the best cars in the industry I don’t know who’s comparing it to Lexus is not even comparable to Mercedes Benz Mercedes it is it’s own class

[@sjllee2588]

Totally make sense. Good presentation.

[@blutek8989]

Been driving my used e250 for 2 years now with no issues. I always do the maintenance abit early and most likely an old man drove it before me

[@ECPP]

Take care of it, and it will take care of you. Great cars and thanks for sharing.

[@tobylopez445]

I hate when my Glk 350 uses up my blinker fluid, think I will get myself a Lexus.

[@trdrav4]

You should discuss how Lexus lost marketshare to Mercedes and BMW. Luxury buyers NOT in the market for a NX, RX or ES are looking elsewhere for their next vehicle. In the higher price segments, Lexus is becoming uncompetitive, the LS isn't as striking as it was before (No V8 engine), and the GX and LX are dated to their competition. GS became dated so quick, that they killed off sadly.

[@David-R.]

I watched up to 3:52 and I had to stop and say this. are you serious!!! It's the frequency of failure let alone the cost. and that 10% you're speaking of, I'm not sure if that was even accurate. on the reliability graph, Lexus sits far far up above all cars, and for a very good reason. Mercedes is nothing but a toy for the rich, that will fail you many times. I owned one and I know that. the C250 is the lesser evil of all, preferably to be built in Germany. and I wouldn't even recommend it for the long run because it has a $3000 part that will definitely fail after certain mileage. learned that straight from the dealership mechanics. With Lexus you really get what you paid for and it lasts forever without tearing holes in your pocket. ok back to the video.

[@DLN-ix6vf]

I have bought 4 CLS MBs used and everyone needed $4k to $5k of work within the first 6 mos. so add that to the cost of buying the car. After that just normal maintenance as with any other car. They do cost more to fix so what I tell people if that bothers you don't buy the car. Question ; why do they call it a Lexus when really it's a Toyota ? MB makes many models but we just call them Mercedes Benz ! Strange eh !

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@geoffk777]

Most of these ten items are true. Maintaining a used Mercedes is a very expensive and sometimes troublesome proposition. The thing to remember about depreciation and resale is that Lexus do depreciate almost as badly as Mercedes. But they are much easier to resell, as they are much better used cars. In fact, the best strategy is to buy neither car new, but to buy a used Lexus, which will be reliable, comfortable, long-lived and reasonable to own. If you must get a Mercedes, than lease it. In the end, it will be cheaper and less painful than buying a used one.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for the comment and a lease or buying new will reduce the financial impact when visiting the service department

[@mahdavimail]

You explain it well. I bought glc base to have less things to break and planning to keep it long time...

[@ECPP]

For sure sometimes simpler is better. Have a great one

[@zlord1199]

I've always had BMWs and decided to give Lexus a shot and i had a 2013 GS350 the car was ok but it felt very very cheap and the car was so annoying and boring. I quickly got rid of it and got a 2013 535i M sport. I think ill stick with me BMWs over lexus.

[@ECPP]

And that is why in a bit she’ll that people go with the Bavarian brand. I saw that years ago.

[@shaf3006]

Commuter drive Toyota , drivers drive German's cars

[@siddheshpillai3807]

Drivers and commuters drive toyota

[@santillbrezon2161]

Another very good video.

[@donovanh5679]

The most reliable luxury cars rated by the Consumer Reports are probably the Lexus RX and ES models. But they are so boring to drive that you might as well call a Uber or Lyft instead. I also have many friends who used to own Lexus and Acura. Once they get a taste of owning Mercedes or BMW, they never go back to those Japanese luxury brands anymore no matter how much the cost of ownership or value depreciation.

[@deaconstevej1]

I'm glad you did this video! Life is to short to just drive anything! I'm more on the luxury side of the equation, but I've really taken a liking to your Ftype R, and I've always loved a Bentley Cont Gt. Those two have surpassed the M6 that was on my radar. Any thoughts or suggestions?

[@ECPP]

For sure Steven. The M6 is a wonderful car, but the Bentley is unsurpassed for Cred and they are wonderful. Only thing is they are a bit pricier to run than the Jag, but there really is nothing like them other than going straight up supercar. The F type R still has not gotten old and is an amazing drive with outrageous performance, sexy looks and a very substantial feel that is hard to match.

[@deaconstevej1]

@@ECPP I absolutely agree with you on that Mark! And th the exhaust note is just the top of the food chain ⛓ 💯

[@joecruz3723]

Only thing he could say about Lexus IS hybrid is bad. No one buys Lexus hybrids. We buy Lexus for their very reliable natural aspirated engines. Can keep going at 400k miles. Never seen a Mercedes at more than 200k

[@harveycminusmansfiel]

I don’t understand why BMW and Mercedes owners don’t just lease their cars considering the horrible resale value, reliability issues, and supposed lack of budget concern for those for whom “life is too short to drive boring cars.”

[@persaud101]

Also you are assuming Lexus drivers want mind blowing exhilaration or a show off look... Most lexus driver are very wealthy and want a cush ride and to stay low profile with quality interior and reliability.

[@calindor19]

we know the lexus is reliable but is getting old this excues. plis say another what lexus do best other then just reliable?

[@calindor19]

?,?? So no other XD the silence

[@aymanrt]

Nice and fair ! Thanks

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@lawrencevensondube8098]

Lexus no .. Mercedes Benz yes .. good video

[@MoeKnows46]

What do you think about the Acura TLX?

[@johnhoey4605]

Love my CLS400 4Matic. Justification for Higher Education!

[@ECPP]

True

[@eugenet6632]

Ahhh, now I understood. Use public transportation and save a tone on depreciation and repairs. Will sell my BMW tomorrow...

[@shaf3006]

Winning the helm of Formula One says it all, if you want to drive " Cars" and enjoy it find a "Car " not a metal can

[@shaunsmith4890]

This is the biggest hater I’ve seen in years.

[@ECPP]

No I love the brand but can be real.

[@FlAvIuS861]

e65 owner m57 engine luxury and reliable at low cost

[@ECPP]

Totally. Great machines

[@bigytv8392]

If you have skills and time to do diy repairs, owning a German car is certainly doable. If you go to the shop for tail light bulb replacement, prepare to pay through the nose. Lots of people want that luxury badge and can't afford repair and maintenance, which is a recipe for disaster. German brands cater to such posers by indtroducing budget luxury models at the low end of price spectrum. The Japanese brands statistically are more reliable compared to Germans. Just look at the cost of ownership. Japanese brands are more of a utility but each major Japanese brand has decent performers which with some minor tweaks give Germans run for their money (ls500, rdx, g35, q50, gtr, nsx etc). Japanese brands are no strangers to technology. All safety features come standard on Lexus and Acura while they cost thousands more if you get equally equipped German car. So the presenter is not completely honest. The message should be:. if you got the money, drive what you like. If you have a budget, prepare to compromise.

[@ECPP]

That’s true

[@loukrstevski6583]

A Mercedes is a Mercedes

[@ECPP]

Absolutely. There is no other kind.

[@PhilT993]

I notice you didn't mention Jag here :-)

[@ECPP]

Same phenomenon but still some of the. Best cars to drive which is what matters most.

[@SkippyPB.]

I personally like the SL500 (R129) cars.

[@ozscorpio7]

When did build quality stopped being related to luxury brands?

[@RT4EVER10]

Well said.

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@RT4EVER10]

@@ECPP Yeah sure your channel is amazing 😍

[@User107D]

The only issue whit buying used luxury cars for majority of people is that this vehicles are not mend for there financial level :D Buy car that is affordable for you to maintain=no issues!!!

[@curt2616]

One will take you to 300k miles comfortably and one will get you to 100k possibly. You argue based on pure performance and physics but they target different consumers, Lexus is designed to last and Merc is designed to be enjoyed at the cost of reliability. Try arguing BMW vs Merc for a really valuable conversation, this is pointless.

[@rsk6882]

Just don’t mind other people’s business. You go with what you want and learn from your own experiences. Simple.

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@stevemorris3049]

Sorry but Lexus will never be in the same class as Mercedes. Yes Toyota/Lexus has the reliability factor as now does Hyundai 😁. People don't buy Mercedes for reliability, they buy them because " They like the car" and can afford them.

[@ECPP]

You hit the nail on the head and that’s my whole channel basis. Life’s too short to drive boring cars.

[@yoqoca]

Yes, Lexus is too boring to drive!

[@shawn72251]

Wow u are on point

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@williamzhu8658]

I want to buy a Mercedes c43 2017-2018 but I like the 2019 cause they have the digital dash but I’m afraid if the digital dash goes out I’ll have to pay a premium to get that fixed and after hearing I might have to replace the twin turbos for $5000k might make me second guess buying the car, if anyone can shed some light that would be much appreciated!

[@ECPP]

Personally, I say drive what makes you happy, including turbo cars, I always do. Just know how to maintain them, and that goes a long way to keeping them running a long time, and yet you will actually enjoy the drive. Cheers

[@pfeamg9658]

Not sure how much this helps as I’ve only had my 2019 c43 coupe for a year but I’ve had zero issues/zero maintenance $ with it. I ordered it and it was built in Germany (vs the US). Not sure if that makes a difference but according to the forums it does. German built = less issues better build quality. May want to check where the car was built first. The car had a 4 year warranty (three years left). Fantastic car, as Mark says drive what you like!

[@18_rabbit]

Whoa--- after year 5, the 50K value continues the steep drop in most MB's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, no, u r not into it for only 15K!!! depends when u sell & at what miles!

[@chigozilimechezona451]

You seem to have an agenda against lexus these days...not why I subscribed to this channel🙁

[@ECPP]

It’s really not the agenda, but the agenda is to challenge the conventional thought on why we drive the cars we do. Ultimately it is because life is too short to drive boring cars and let’s talk about the things we will anticipate when buying these great drivers cars.

[@penvon]

The guy has become delusional,I think his age is starting to show lol.

[@FORNICATOR1981]

He needs some Scotty Kilmer

[@trdrav4]

@@FORNICATOR1981 He needs Tyler Hoover

[@michaelthespikel5685]

The only thing more reliable in a Mercedes is the rate of its failure and the cost to fix the problems that do occur. When I see a guy driving a Mercedes I say here's a rich fool or just a plain fool. Your mechanics going to say that too and you're going to pay premium every single time that thing breaks.

[@ECPP]

What do you suggest?

[@michaelthespikel5685]

@@ECPP not a Mercedes, Unless it's on a lease then who cares. that's the problem today people aren't building quality and it's going to work against them in the long run. In my view it won't be long before Mercedes is an irrevocably damaged brand. To me they already are

[@bnastali]

Dude, your volume is TOO DAMNED LOUD! Good information, but My older SLK 230 has been super reliable.

[@edsonmaleiane2618]

Meanwhile... If you have money the repair buy it!

[@86BBUB]

Buy the E-Class wagon.

[@kenneil101]

sooo unmn Lexus only makes hybrid...i see you talk about negatively like Lexus only makes hybrid. Just don't make much sense to me what you saying.

[@penvon]

The age is starting to show ladies & gents...Grumpy Grandpa is starting to complain about Lexus again,next he’ll start about the “war”.🤣😂🤣 “Life’s to short to drive boring cars” he’ll be mumbling these words on his wheelchair at the retirement home,probably might be his last words 😢

[@gujjarareus2455]

Had a 2019 a class only did 7000 miles and the auto gearbox blew yes the electric features do look really nice but when the pack up believe me the can cost dollars I would stick with Japanese or Korean makes with minimal fancy gadgets????

[@lamont3851]

Entry level cars are built cheaply

[@southbayla3137]

The new 2020 corolla is better than the Camry and better than most bmw and benz he is distracting you guys from Toyota’s new line up

[@ECPP]

But where does the fun in driving come from then?

[@southbayla3137]

ExoticCar PlayPlace i play with the lane assist on my 2020 corolla hybrid while I drive and that’s all I need , it makes me feel like I’m in a bmw or Benz , when you get close to the lane slowly and the lane assist turns your wheel slightly . And trying to get max mpg while having a smooth , torquey ride in a lighter car is the best .

[@southbayla3137]

ExoticCar PlayPlace and also when driving and seeing expensive Mercedes and old bmw ‘s and Prius’s and Camry passing by I find it very very funny that I’m in a cheap car but i know it’s a better car because I’m saving more gas , have apple car play , instant torque , and not in a Prius !!!! So that is all very exciting on the road not the actual car , just the fact the car is unique , I’m not interested in Camry or Camry hybrids .

[@southbayla3137]

ExoticCar PlayPlace have you driven a corolla hybrid ? You have to get one , I’m done with luxury cars I’m going corolla hybrid, I was into luxury cars before , they are expensive so I strayed away from them but I found the perfect alternative , the corolla hybrid !!

[@alvasingh8054]

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[@mauriceandrews2723]

Why would anyone think buying a German made car with US Specs is a good idea?

[@douglastaylor8039]

Why isn't our government making all of these car companies fix these defects ?? These are known defects. The car companies know how to make reliable cars. How can you buy Premium cars but their parts and builds aren't premium. When it's a poorly made car it's never the car company's fault. It's yours

[@ECPP]

You are largely right, but I still want to drive fun cars and the manufacturers know this and many others do too.

[@RothBeyondTheGrave]

Fixing known defects isn't profitable. However, engineering failures in to happen at certain intervals is very profitable. It goes so deep. Mark pointed out 1 aspect of it here in the SA language regarding diagnosis in "during warranty" & "post warranty" periods. During warranty, "that noise is normal". Post warranty, "oh that's cylinder scoring. We'll go ahead & order you a new engine".

[@Chezzzzy]

Lexus IS boring I would buy one for my mom /gf / grandmother but not for myself

[@ECPP]

It lacks the BMW M or Benz AMG fun factor

[@stevejohnson4105]

The Lexus is for a old woman Mercedes is for all 0ld ,Young, athletes ,executive so I'm a Mercedes owner I don't have a problem and planning to buy a new one the s560

[@tomvuitton]

I buy salvage amg. And guess what best car I ever own.

[@18_rabbit]

Um--yeah, not at all.. most Lexii just go & go & go, --- literlly, saw the 700K v8, '04ish lexus 'vert , on Scotty Kilmer's.. just epic durability. Not even in the same universe as these MBs & other euro's. RX350 just last an eternity & into over 500K easily on originl engine , trans & most other parts, even parts that have worn out in most cars of every genertion, just do not do so in these lexus/yota's & honda's/acuras. Nonetheless, i like the MB's

[@lawrencevensondube8098]

I am not Lexus fan .. Mercedes Benz is my favorite….

[@SteaIthyMan]

Now lets talk about how German cars use PLASTIC PARTS in there engine!!!!!

[@raphaelfrancis4509]

All these people cry/complain about every damn thing. If you can't afford a Benz, don't get it Benz. People need to understand the difference between purchasing a car and affording a car. They are two totally different entities that sound similar.

[@ECPP]

Exactly. Thanks

[@REMYLEONEL]

2:10 yes

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@Capogrim]

I got a Lexus but I still want dat Benz

[@ECPP]

I hear that. Cheers