Sounds like every guy I dated, it’s so sad that there are so many of them
@tashaetoile28874 ай бұрын
Great video thank you so much.
@edcoldrock3849 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thoughtful insights, HerNorm. I understand your rationale, it's only fair. Since your channel is devoted to relationship advice, it's perhaps imperative that young women be advised about potential outcomes as well. Biology is not fair, nor is it a social construct. Per Tinder's own data, as in life, 20% of men (i.e. attractive & successful) are dating 80% of women. An extreme, highly visible example of this phenomenon is how Lionardo DiCaprio has spent the last 30 years dating nothing but 20yo supermodels. Attractive & successful men (which is what all women want) are at the pinnacle of the sexual marketplace, but they only make up 20% of men. And yes, their marriage standards lean heavily toward youth and all that implies, in part because they have a lot to lose. There is nothing fair about adult life, unfortunately. I felt compelled to write this due to the high number of sobbing woman TikToks. By dismissing biology as misogyny, its detrimental to young women, who instead should be armed with an understanding of male nature. As per my previous comment, I do agree with about 90% of what you said in your video.
@hernorm Жыл бұрын
Ed, thank you again for your thoughtful comments. I'm hugely appreciating you talking about this in good faith. And I do respect your desire to minimize the number of people sobbing about their relationships. We absolutely share that aim! :) In another format, I'd love to talk about this in great detail with you (probably with a beer) because I think we could get into some quite deep and interesting philosophy. Suffice to say I agree with some portions of what you say and have questions/different views on others. Unfortunately, that would probably lead to us producing a Philosophy 101 course in the KZbin comments section. Not a space famed for nuance, despite our best efforts. I will think about places where I can helpfully highlight some of the things that you've said and I hope that our discussion has prompted viewers to think about the issues we've been thinking about. As an aside, those are crazy stats from Tinder. I'm gonna have to hunt those down. As a self-confessed statistics nerd, I'd love to dig down into those numbers to understand exactly what's going on there.
@edcoldrock3849 Жыл бұрын
#1: Agree #2: Agree & Disagree. Men appreciate casual sex with sexually free women. When it's time to marry though, men with options (i.e., attractive & successful) will choose to marry a more traditional woman since the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Men with options are not threatened by sexual pasts, they are threatened by no-fault divorce & financial ruin. Past behavior is the most reliable indicator of future behavior. Feel free to judge men by the same standard. You will not be accused of misandry. #3: Agree #4: Agree #5:.Agree
@hernorm Жыл бұрын
Interesting thoughts Ed. I absolutely see where you're coming from there, and I'm a huge fan of using people's past behavior as a good indication of how they are likely to behave in the future. On the other hand, having multiple sexual partners doesn't mean that you treat any of them badly or cheat on them. If a guy decides not to trust someone who has cheated on partners in the past, I'm 100% on board. If he claims that a woman who has had sex with the same number of people that he has is inherently untrustworthy or has somehow "lost value" (with the implication that he hasn't), I'd find that an uncomfortable focus on women's sexual purity.
@strangelee4400 Жыл бұрын
What is a Misogynist..?
@DontMindMe1215 ай бұрын
A completely hatred towards women
@marianomanto Жыл бұрын
Men value sexual purity for evolutionary reasons, same as women value men's height. It is a deep rooted, natural preference. But men are shamed for their preferences, while women are empowered to demand they are met.
@hernorm Жыл бұрын
We disagree on whether those preferences are biological or social in origin, and probably about how universal those preferences actually are. We're not going to convince each other in these comments and that's ok. That said, I abhor a double standard. If a woman suggested that a man was *less valuable as a person* because he was short... she would absolutely not enjoy the response she received from me.
@marianomanto Жыл бұрын
@@hernorm life is full of double standards, many of them benefiting women, others benefiting men. It is not fair. It is reality. And reality doesn't care about feelings. Social constructionism is a scam, check the data to verify how universal preferences are. 80% of men are deemed as non attractive on dating apps, which are mostly based on looks. Because only 20% of men are six feet tall or more.
@mustno3 Жыл бұрын
Gents, this is why you should invest in cat food companies. Ladies, she's alone, and she want you to be like her. You, using your own criteria, you have some serious very deep rooted misandry. I hope you can seek help.
@hernorm Жыл бұрын
If you believe that wanting women to only date men who aren't misogynists somehow means I want them to be alone, I'd suggest that I'm not the one who thinks too little of men.
@mustno3 Жыл бұрын
@@hernorm No, I believe that telling women that biology is misogynist, and that a man who accepts biology, where women on average are physically weaker than Men, is a misogynist, is a delusional misandrist leading women astray.
@hernorm Жыл бұрын
If that's what you took away from that video, you've either not watched very much of it, not understood what I said, or you're not commenting in good faith.
@mustno3 Жыл бұрын
@@hernorm I literally transcribed what you said, and I know that even if I post the timestamp where you literally say: "a misogynist is defined as a person who typically believes that women are fundamentally weaker physically" you STILL won't admit it, cause sometimes it's our subconscious that speaks, no matter how hard you'll try to twist it, that's exactly what you said. And I can't really debate someone who outwardly denies what they subconsciously believe.