10 Terrible Star Trek Episodes With Awesome Endings

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@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix was a great episode BECAUSE there is no clear cut answer. Great sci-fi doesn't give you the answers, it makes YOU come up with the answer. The fact that 30 years later we're still arguing over it proves its still great.
@travisjames3517
@travisjames3517 3 ай бұрын
They should have had Tuvok be around for a multi-arc story so viewers could form an attachment to him more.
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 3 ай бұрын
@@travisjames3517 Year of hell should have run for a full season but only Babylon 5 was that forward thinking in the 90's.
@firstname4337
@firstname4337 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix was crap because Voyager was crap -- and Janeway was far and away the WORST captain ever
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 3 ай бұрын
@@firstname4337 You have repeated this same comment twice... And it was stupid the first time around.
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 3 ай бұрын
@@firstname4337 Troll much?
@chefdean7257
@chefdean7257 3 ай бұрын
Nemesis. . . . Hoisted by it's clone Picard. How did your writers miss this golden opportunity ?? 9:19
@HermanVonPetri
@HermanVonPetri 3 ай бұрын
For your contributions you have been awarded one internet. Use it responsibly.
@davidaston5773
@davidaston5773 3 ай бұрын
"Nemesis" is a fantastic idea wasted. The irony? Next Generation did those double humanity/who are we story explorations all the time. Data's entire arc is exploring who he is. I love the scene in "Unification" where Data and Spock compare their lives? Data pointing out he's trying to FIND his humanity while Spock trying to move away from it? One of those moments when it echoes and connects to all of us. As for "Enterprise"? I was just so chuffed seeing my fave Leaper take the helm of the Enterprise. Along with"DS9" and "Voyager", "Enterprise" should have a follow up and resolution to their plots as was "Picard" to "Nemesis" PS I'm writing a lot because I have had too much coffee. Janaway would approve 🤣
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 3 ай бұрын
@@davidaston5773 Of course she would approve! And if you need more coffee... There's coffee in that nebula!
@davidaston5773
@davidaston5773 3 ай бұрын
@@Donnagata1409Best opening to a not so great episode. Cofffee explains why the Klingons are so bad tempered.... coffee crash 🤣
@katherinemcdaniel8676
@katherinemcdaniel8676 3 ай бұрын
I love that nemesis and venom have a commonality.
@chrisveness1892
@chrisveness1892 3 ай бұрын
Code of Honour had an awesome ending. I've never been happier to see the closing credits on an episode.
@antney7745
@antney7745 3 ай бұрын
It was an episode that really cheered people up when it was over.
@mattphoenix4702
@mattphoenix4702 3 ай бұрын
It’s a minor miracle TNG survived its first season.
@DawnDavidson
@DawnDavidson 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@LightningSt0rm
@LightningSt0rm 3 ай бұрын
I would argue that what you say is "bad" about Tuvix is what makes it great. The fact that it was so controversial, polarizing, and devisive and we are still arguing about it 25 years later makes it one of the best episodes of Star Trek of all time. Whether you agree or disagree with Janeway or whether or not it fits with "Star Trek Ideals" or whatever doesn't change that it was a very impactful and poignant episode with a big no-win scenario that they didn't back down from asking. That makes for greatness. Indeed I'd say you could argue this episode is the exact opposite of what this list is for those who disagree with Janeway: It'd be "An awesome episode with a terrible ending."
@SylvainBeaudoin-dd1oy
@SylvainBeaudoin-dd1oy 3 ай бұрын
I would advance that Tuvix is not a bad episode, It is however an awesome ending, had it been bad, ending or not we would not care about the character resolution, the episode build up the silliness at the start (yet another transporter incident) to end with Janeway's decision which as you mention, splits the treckies on either side. Also Welcome back Brie!
@willstikken5619
@willstikken5619 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix was a bad episode.
@firstname4337
@firstname4337 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix was crap because Voyager was crap -- and Janeway was far and away the WORST captain ever
@christovog
@christovog 3 ай бұрын
​@@willstikken5619💯💯 Exceedingly
@katherinemcdaniel8676
@katherinemcdaniel8676 3 ай бұрын
Tubix was a painful show to watch because you felt for tubi . I did not envy Janeway in having to make that decision.
@CurlyAndCurvy
@CurlyAndCurvy 3 ай бұрын
Welcome back, Brie! You were missed. Was NOT expecting Tuvix to be on this list. Also, I'm joining the chorus of those who say they enjoyed Nemesis. I didn't know it was so hated until a few years ago! 🤷🏽‍♀️
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 3 ай бұрын
Same. I had always been under the impression that Insurrection was the worst Star Trek movie.
@phoenixheart79
@phoenixheart79 3 ай бұрын
​@GabePuratekuta Insurrection isn't bad - it would make a great two-part episode. But TV episodes don't really make great motion pictures - just meh ones. There's nothing truly bad in it, it's just weak as a movie. Nemesis has a lot of plot holes, conveniences and chickens out of a very bold choice to kill off one of TNG's most beloved characters with the whole B4 nonsense. Data's death came out of left field as it was, almost a throwaway moment when it should have been far more impactful. B4 cheapened it so much. Picard (show) has a lot of flaws, but it at least fixed that mess and dealt with Data's death properly, and when they brought him back it felt earned - if somewhat clichéd - unlike the ending of Nemesis. Nemesis isn't the worst Trek movie, but it's down there near the bottom lol
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 3 ай бұрын
@@phoenixheart79 I didn't say it was bad. Just that it's the general consensus that says it is.
@gbkworf
@gbkworf 3 ай бұрын
In Enterprise. Torture may not have been very Star Fleet, but the fate of all of mankind was at stake. I say anything goes at that point, including torture. Look what Sisko did in "In the Pale Moonlight" At least he he didn't torture anyone, right! Only had 2 people killed, and he would do it again, as I am sure Archer would given the same circumstances....
@markpoidvin5382
@markpoidvin5382 3 ай бұрын
Anomaly was a great episode. It finally has a realistic reaction from a human being ( had not seen DS9 yet, did not watch it , I assumed it was TNG spin off, I hated every member of that crew, except for Data). Instead of one of Picard's " we are all ready to die for that bacteria " pomposities', god I hate that man. He could torture that criminal or probably doom earth to destruction. Reminds me of Sisko's line in rocks and shoals, " If it's a choice between us and them, there is no choice".
@4EyedRocker
@4EyedRocker 2 ай бұрын
That scene is one of the reasons why Archer is my favorite captain
@stephaniegallacher7436
@stephaniegallacher7436 3 ай бұрын
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I immensely enjoyed watched Nemesis
@genlando327plays2
@genlando327plays2 3 ай бұрын
Still a million times better than Insurrection...
@michaeldunham3385
@michaeldunham3385 3 ай бұрын
So did I it gets undeserved bad reviews
@stephaniegallacher7436
@stephaniegallacher7436 3 ай бұрын
It is
@stephaniegallacher7436
@stephaniegallacher7436 3 ай бұрын
I know. And Tom Hardys portrayal of Shinzon was badly skates because it was apparently terrible. Personally, I think he did a good job with what he was given to work with
@steveleeart
@steveleeart 3 ай бұрын
I enjoy the battles, but they should not have cut the character moments that can be found online today. Those 20m would’ve made the film work better. And I love Hardy but I would have rather seen Stewart play his own evil clone. And I would have had the Romulans steel Lore’s body as part of the same plan to infiltrate the Federation and that was the body the Enterprise finds.
@BlaqJedimaster
@BlaqJedimaster 3 ай бұрын
I didn't think the Tuvix episode was a bad episode. It was actually a GREAT episode because it galvanized the audience into further thinking. It's hated for the same reason but honestly good TV compels you to think better, plus the acting was fantastic! Now in my opinion - I've always thought Janeway was correct in terms of somebody had to advocate for the one's who's lives were lost. Tuvix was a brand new person that was brought about out of the demise of two other people that did not choose for their lives to end.....beyond that - nobody asked Neelix and Tuvok after the situation if they disagreed with Janeway's decision!
@TrueAmericanPatriot-n2f
@TrueAmericanPatriot-n2f 3 ай бұрын
I loved that episode. It was dramatic and deep and had one heck of a moral delimma. Loved it! (I'd have named him 'Tuvix Neelok'.)
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 3 ай бұрын
She still committed murder and I think the episode is maligned because it has no lasting consequences when it really should more than what the episode is in and of itself. Latent Image strikes me as an episode where the fact that Janeway already made a choice over another person’s agency and consent “for the good of the many” should have come up. That episode understands that it’s wrong to hurt the individual for the collective, not ask them to make a sacrifice, HURT them, which as Seven points out is deeply hypocritical juxtaposed to the philosophy Janeway spouts when trying to pull her away from Borg thinking. And no one brings up Tuvix. The Doctor, who objected to the murder, and is currently the suffering party, never brings up Tuvix. It’s maddening.
@BlaqJedimaster
@BlaqJedimaster 3 ай бұрын
@@TrueAmericanPatriot-n2f lol
@BlaqJedimaster
@BlaqJedimaster 3 ай бұрын
@@Cdr2002 but the argument is against an accident. Tuvix WAS AN ACCIDENT. It’s not like somebody got pregnant with Tuvix and said hey let’s abort him. This is scienc fiction which has a transporter that malfunctioned. If it were just Neelix alone and the transporter malfunctioned and he merged with part of the planet and he came out looking like half a rock would you say let him live with it? Should Janeway have allowed Tuvix to murder Tuvok and Neelix, which in my mind utter thievery! Tuvix wanted to stay at the cost of Tuvok and Neelix’s individual lives, their past, their present, their future! THAT is the real murder and Janeway had to consider that in her decision. You want to call it murder - sure but if it is then it’s a mercy killing because the true crime is that Tuvok and Neelix were instead and could not argue the point of whether they wanted to live or die to allow Tuvix to live and THAT IS WRONG!
@BlaqJedimaster
@BlaqJedimaster 3 ай бұрын
@@Cdr2002 This subject always amazes me because it is being debated based upon an accident. Tuvix was an accident. The unfortunate part of his existence was the fact that it rest upon two lives that did not have a say in whether they wanted their lives to end. What about their existence? You cannot wipe out the two who have history just so that this accident can live on. That is unfair. This actually paints Tuvix as he murderer because he was fine with extinguishing Tuvok and Neelix for himself. Again, it’s unfair. What if this was Chakotay and Janeway, Picard and Riker or Spock and Kirk? Main characters? I’ll bet the thought would be different. As Captain, Janeway had to speak for her crew that did not have the opportunity to speak for themselves and that's what she did. There honestly was no other choice.
@AFNacapella
@AFNacapella 3 ай бұрын
Spock's Brain is one stylistic choice away from being proto cyberpunk
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 3 ай бұрын
I would love to hear more about this take
@hankthepatriot3733
@hankthepatriot3733 3 ай бұрын
Enterprise is GROSSLY underrated! I watched it live when it originally aired and didn't fully appreciate the storytelling until recently... I've been bing watching it again for a 3rd time. Would love to see it get a "Picard" style mini series to give it it's "season 3" swan song! (Remember, the "final" episode WAS a holodeck story!)
@jwessel1969
@jwessel1969 3 ай бұрын
'Omnipotent letter of the alphabet'. Good one.
@davidhill7195
@davidhill7195 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix was a perfect episode. Moral dilemma is the heart of a great Star Trek episode.
@CynthiaWarren
@CynthiaWarren 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix was Star Trek's way of saying that sometimes, there are no easy answers to a problem. No one knows how they would resolve this type of problem until they are faced with it. Yes, we regret the fact that Tuvix had to die. But we also are glad that Tuvok and Neelix are back. Janeway also didn't stick around after she was sure the Doctor's serum had successfully separated Tuvok and Neelix. There is real anguish on her face as she walks out, because she had also formed an attachment to Tuvix. But as captain, she needed to speak for the two people involved in this choice that couldn't say what they wanted.
@CRYOKnox
@CRYOKnox 3 ай бұрын
In the Mirror Universe people still argue that Marschall Janeway should have done something against Tuvix.
@Chicken-x6q6d
@Chicken-x6q6d 3 ай бұрын
The Enterprise episode Cogenitor would have made an honorable mention here. It was terrible and seemed like cheap filler but that scene with Archer and Trip at the end with the lecture on responsibility and consequence is definitely one to remember.
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 3 ай бұрын
Thought surely the non-binary folks would've loved this.
@jamesbernald2850
@jamesbernald2850 3 ай бұрын
Archer is such a hypocritical arsehole
@davefancella
@davefancella 3 ай бұрын
@@virginiaconnor8350 You don't think nonbinary people would love an ending where the captain basically tells Tripp to accept other people's different genders and quit trying to interfere?
@miketurin5233
@miketurin5233 3 ай бұрын
“Delete Wife!” was probably the best non StarTrek typical one-liner ever said.
@Gregnier
@Gregnier 3 ай бұрын
I repeatedly point to the fact that we now have TWO episodes with Transporter Clones. It was perfectly possible to COPY Tuvix and then separate the original Tuvok and Neelix from the copy. The story beats alone as Tuvix gets to grapple with both of his gene parents and their memories would have made great episodes. Tuvix has the same feelings for Kes as Neelix, how does that shape out with both of them present? Tuvok and Tuvix both coexisting on the ship with the same skillset and responsibilities? HI Brie! Welcome back!
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix as a recurring character while both original characters still exist is an interesting wrinkle for future episodes, you make a great point
@oldoneeye7516
@oldoneeye7516 3 ай бұрын
@@Cdr2002 lorewise, maybe. From the perspective of a TV-Show? Impractical at best, probally impossible to pull of. The new character has to be fleshed out and acted out in order to work. Far too much effort. If this had happened, Tuvix would have to leave the crew only a few episodes later one way or the other.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 3 ай бұрын
@@oldoneeye7516 hence why I said recurring and not regular, I’m imagining a character with the same presence as say, the Wildmans, or Vorik
@eponymousarchon
@eponymousarchon 3 ай бұрын
If we had a "Captain, l believe we can defeat the transporter's safety interlocks for long enough to duplicate Tuvix and then separate one of _them,_ in turn" scene, very late in the episode, then Tuvix leaving Voyager afterwards because the Captain _had been_ prepared to kill him [and indeed, did still kill one of him] would have worked without causing knock-on problems for the production. Would it have been as powerful as the uncomfortable ending we got? I'm not sure.
@scockery
@scockery 3 ай бұрын
The transporter can do anything, except when it can't. I mean, the whole crew could've been in transporter stasis like Scotty and arrived 70 years later in the Alpha Quadrant. It can de-age people like it did in that TNG aging virus episode and Rascals. Then every other episode is like "I can't get a transporter lock on them."
@drexrew
@drexrew 3 ай бұрын
There are multiple episodes in the early seasons of Voyager where they are running low on power but the holodecks are still working because their power systems are supposedly incompatible with the rest of the ship. Suddenly in this episode the power systems of the holodecks are required to save the ship. Also, why can't they just save the program and shut down the holodeck, like they have done multiple times before on Star Trek?
@bonusbaby801
@bonusbaby801 3 ай бұрын
I long for the day when we STOP GRIPING ABOUT TUVIX!!! It comes down to watch Mr. Spock said, "The needs of the many (OR 2: TUVOK & NEELIX) outweigh the needs of the few...or the one (TUVIX)." People are really in favor of 2 people with established lives dying, so a transporter accident who has only been around for a cup of coffee can live???
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 3 ай бұрын
This argument works if the ONE is the one giving up him/herself for the many. Nobody else has the right to impose on the ONE the needs of the many. When Spock used that argument, he was applying it to himself as the ONE whose needs were outweighed by the needs of the MANY. Spock has to make that choice. Nobody can make it for him. In Tuvix's case, the choice was made FOR him. Tuvix should have been the one to make that choice for himself.
@jamesellison4575
@jamesellison4575 3 ай бұрын
The "many" also include all the people with whom Tuvok and Neelix have, and have had, relationships. Tuvix was an appealing person, but had not yet had an ineradicable effect on those around him. At that point his existence was more "in potentia" than otherwise.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 3 ай бұрын
I always liked the one of Tuvok's "suppressed" memory taking Janeway inside a mind-meld to the Excelsior during the events of Undiscovered Country, now have the distraction of being aware of Janeway while trying to launch a rescue of Bones and Kirk. The "Who the hell are you?" is classic Sulu.
@SatoshiMatrix1
@SatoshiMatrix1 3 ай бұрын
Mulgrew's choice to tweet that it as _HER_ decision (as the actress) to kill Tuvix is hilarious. Janeway be damned! Kate Mulgrew is responsible! lol boss tweet.
@LordSpleach
@LordSpleach 2 ай бұрын
Mulgrew was right!
@adamgoss3638
@adamgoss3638 3 ай бұрын
Spock's Brain is ridiculous but is fun in a MST3K kind of way. The WORST of TOS was And The Children Shall Lead. There is NOTHING in that episode to redeem it.
@silvermanemilard
@silvermanemilard 3 ай бұрын
That was definitely worse. But I gotta go with Turnabout Intruder over And the Children Shall Lead.
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 3 ай бұрын
@@silvermanemilard Hate Turnabout Intruder
@scockery
@scockery 3 ай бұрын
Especially not inspiring The Children of the Corn.
@2009mouser
@2009mouser 3 ай бұрын
I'll make it easy. Janeway was right. Janeway also murdered Tuvix. (though Lower Decks kinda nailed it)
@mikecase2372
@mikecase2372 3 ай бұрын
I thought Lower Decks ultimately had a pretty nuanced take on the matter. Janeway had to make a hard call because she didn't have the resources of Star Fleet available.
@stevecole90099
@stevecole90099 Ай бұрын
Janeway absolutely made the right choice in saving Tuvok and Neelix. People saying she murdered Tuvix forget or ignore the fact that thing was actually an alien orchid that stole the DNA of the two crew members and was essentially holding them hostage. Imagine someone stole a kidney from two different people to replace their own so they could live. In this example all three persons would likely be fine and live a long, normal life, but would the two people who had their kidney stolen not be both legally and ethically entitled to have it back even if the thief would die? These people that think Tuvix had any right to live after "killing" two crew members is the reasons we have mass murders living long and healthy lives paid for by the very families they destroyed.
@TCTurner
@TCTurner 3 ай бұрын
Brie! I was starting to think you'd left! Great to hear your voice again 😊
@NealKlein
@NealKlein 3 ай бұрын
I second that.
@dinomonzon7493
@dinomonzon7493 3 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@SabotageGarageUSA
@SabotageGarageUSA 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I do miss her brand. (Complain, hate, and whine about episodes) She always make me aware of the worst of Star Trek. Find me one video that she is not pointing out the worst of Trek.
@musicloverme3993
@musicloverme3993 3 ай бұрын
Are you being cheesy?
@gerardojg
@gerardojg 3 ай бұрын
I agree with 3 on your list. However, a few on your list I enjoyed quite a bit and one is a personal favorite. "Tuvix" is a personal favorite. I enjoy the episodes with a difficult moral dilemma. I'll admit I have difficulty actively disliking ST even when it's bad.
@jayluck8047
@jayluck8047 3 ай бұрын
I noticed there were no DS9 episodes. Reinforcing my beliefs that there are no bad DS9 episodes.
@christovog
@christovog 3 ай бұрын
Quark as a female was beyond needless.
@pinlight97
@pinlight97 3 ай бұрын
@@christovog…was just about to say Profit and Lace. There was also the one where Worf was even beyond Klingon levels of misogyny to Dax…who somehow just took it?
@kmoore02809
@kmoore02809 3 ай бұрын
Spock's Brain is one of those 'It's so bad, it's good' episodes.
@HermanVonPetri
@HermanVonPetri 3 ай бұрын
I would gladly watch "Spock's Brain" a hundred times over before choosing to watch "The Alternative Factor."
@jamesheartney9546
@jamesheartney9546 3 ай бұрын
@@HermanVonPetri "Alternative Factor" I find kind of meh, though if you are watching on Pluto TV, it makes the unique choice of cropping the frame to make it look widescreen. The one I can't make it through is the space hippies episode, "The Way to Eden." Way too much cringe. Whatever else you may say about "Spock's Brain," I think it's pretty watchable, in part due to the ridiculousness of the premise. "Call Chekov and tell him to send my stomach down." Great line.
@marvenlunn6086
@marvenlunn6086 3 ай бұрын
I think it would have been better if it had of been a visitor to the ship whose brain was stolen and voluntary stayed instead of being put back in his body
@scockery
@scockery 3 ай бұрын
It's not even the worst episode of its season.
@NealKlein
@NealKlein 3 ай бұрын
A good video because it generated a great discussion and warmed my heart to see the community's views.
@Trialwolf
@Trialwolf 3 ай бұрын
Honestly if an episode is able to earn a follow up in a future series it's proven itself, and Twovix pretty much puts the exclamation point on the quote "Janeway doesn't mess around!"
@moreorlesto
@moreorlesto 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Tuvix provided a dilemma with no clear cut answer (besides "reset to 'stat quo' at end of every episode!"), which as someone else has already pointed out, makes for great sci-fi. It seems like Janeway could pass a Kobayashi Maru test with her hands tied behind her back!!
@talldarkviking
@talldarkviking 3 ай бұрын
FAIR HAVEN... Actually, the signage, and the script used, is very good - very accurate. That impressed me. That was NOT an average Irish town or village though. WAY too clean and tidy ☺️
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 3 ай бұрын
Nemesis being on here feels weird simply because it’s a movie, but I get what you’re saying Tuvix I feel could have ended with them finding a way to keep Tuvix but also get back Tuvok and Neelix… but then they’d have had to pay for another actor or kill him off another way next week or forget him somehow being in the ship
@dennisud
@dennisud 3 ай бұрын
Nice to see Brie back! We need more variety in our narrators!
@SabotageGarageUSA
@SabotageGarageUSA 3 ай бұрын
More pointing out the worst and letting us know what episodes she hates. You cannot point out every flaw and end with "it had a great ending" and tricking me into thinking that you are not complaining again.
@michaelbrostrom439
@michaelbrostrom439 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps, the Wounded is not a bad episode, but the ending where Picard reveals he knew all along that the Cardassians were indeed plotting as O'brian's former CO talked about. Yes, I love it. The other one is such a bow-wow, I don't even remember the name. It is in season 3 of Voyager which deals with a Vulcan trying to mate with Belana and some shy species in the background. Forgive me for not providing the name, but take note. This is midway through season 3, where the path of Voyager became clear when they encounter a Borgafied skull. That still brings chills up my spine.
@scottjohnsoncet
@scottjohnsoncet 3 ай бұрын
Re: Tuvix, while I think Janeway made the right choice (because the incident that brought about Tuvix was rightly identified as an accident (which would have meant the loss of the lives of two of the crew if left uncorrected)), it certainly was her Kobyashi Maru! No matter what she decides, she loses. 😕
@andrewlowe693
@andrewlowe693 3 ай бұрын
Surprised VOY Blood Fever doesn't get a mention, fairly hum drum episode but THAT revelation at the end...
@Chicken-x6q6d
@Chicken-x6q6d 3 ай бұрын
(Gasps) The BORG!
@3vilSuperman
@3vilSuperman Ай бұрын
Encounter at Farpoint gave us one of my favorite lines, "Let's see what this Galaxy class starship can do".
@andrew-johnbowman7480
@andrew-johnbowman7480 3 ай бұрын
Because of Voyager's tendency to wrap things up by the end of an episode, the Tuvix episode didn't have that big of an emotional impact on me. Imagine if Tuvix had been around for a a handful of episodes for us to get to know and like this character.
@nm3260
@nm3260 3 ай бұрын
I loved peanut hamper! 😂
@flyboy65c
@flyboy65c 3 ай бұрын
I love you guys, but No! Spock's Brain did NOT have an awesome ending!
@scockery
@scockery 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't the end allowing the planet to revert to cavemen times...tough break for the women. Maybe we should call Starfleet and ask...nah, KIRK KNOWS BEST.
@SmartAlec86
@SmartAlec86 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix is the perfect way to create an episode that is the trolly problem.
@Boopop1024
@Boopop1024 3 ай бұрын
If only Janeway knew that Tuvok and Neelix had plot armor, then she would have known the choice was easy! In fact, there was no choice!
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 3 ай бұрын
had tuvix stayed we'd have to say goodbye to two key cast members. since neither Ethan nor Tim played the part of Tuvix.....
@eringuard250
@eringuard250 3 ай бұрын
@TrekCulture, why are you always hating on Peanut Hamper?? She is absolutely hilarious, and I LOVE her episodes!
@tomdm5464
@tomdm5464 3 ай бұрын
Fair haven is one of my favorite Voyager episodes, seeing the crew loosen up and enjoying themselfs is heartwarming. Also what was janeway to do? A holographic loves was the best outcome.
@amandamatheny3675
@amandamatheny3675 3 ай бұрын
there were actually two episodes featuring Fairhaven and I'll take both of them over any of the stupid Chaotica episodes
@TCTurner
@TCTurner 3 ай бұрын
I always thought Tuvix was a great episode, a tough one to comprehend though. I stand by the decision. If two of my kids were merged into one, I'd want nothing more than to have the two back, no matter how much the individual convinced me they were "both still there" I'd have lost two that I had known for X years, for one I didn't recognise, really know, and who claimed to be them
@LightningSt0rm
@LightningSt0rm 3 ай бұрын
That's a good way to look at it. I think the biggest rub for people is the captain "murdering" someone. In this context you fully admit that you'd murder this new person to get your kids back. (As would I). But I think folks struggle with the idea that the vaunted Starfleet Captain would ever do this and that's the problem. I think Janeway the character would fully admit she did murder that person in favor of getting the two back. I mean her face at the end says it all, she was crushed and part of her died that day, but she did what she felt needed to be done regardless knowing full well a lot of people will look at her differently (both in and out of universe).
@TheCrimsonMoogle
@TheCrimsonMoogle 3 ай бұрын
Peace and Long Life everyone
@jeffbudd7678
@jeffbudd7678 3 ай бұрын
Poor timing since Turkey just experienced a terrorist attack that killed people.
@jaykay845
@jaykay845 3 ай бұрын
Janeway was right.
@mwallacejam
@mwallacejam 3 ай бұрын
Nice list. I'd like to see the reverse though good episodes with bad endings. Also do one of SPACEBORN CREATURES
@BoundyMan
@BoundyMan 3 ай бұрын
I actually like Tuvix. The only thing I didn't like about it is Tuvok and Nelix not having any memory of it, when Tuvix did and Kes not understanding that Tuvix was still Nelix when he told her he loved her.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@DaryleWhitneyJr
@DaryleWhitneyJr 3 ай бұрын
"Thy own self": next generation. Data loses his memory. Episode is linked to "wrath of khan": movie. Situation troika is trying to solve is the situation where spock dies.
@MrKreinen
@MrKreinen 21 күн бұрын
@15:44 you want to know the worst part about the Tuvix incident? After finally really attempting to understand the Transporter system as presented, I finally realized... they never had to choose at all: You can't tell me that Voy doesn't have the records of the mechanics, and conditions of the Riker transporter-cloning incident! StepA) Energize Tuvix, and Initiate another pattern-confinement beam, and have each routed to a different buffer, then use warp core power to boost the signal strength on each of the now-two Tuvix-patterns till each reaches full signal-strength again before re-materializing Tuvix-A. [Though on a different Pad you may have to momentarily re-matterialize Tuvix-B as well, in order to help ward-off pattern-degredation/signal-decay for the process of StepB] StepB) Now, [re-energize , and] run Tuvix-B through the transporter again, splitting the Tuvok and Nelix patterns apart, again tapping the Warp Core for power, raising the signal strength of each pattern to full, and rematerializing them separately. Boom- Tuvok, Nelix, Tuvix! All LIVE! [I suggest they re-energize Tuvix-B before he can react, or he may try to refuse fission as well...]
@Elvertaw
@Elvertaw 3 ай бұрын
Great episode!! You should have included an honorable mention section. I’m sure the Enterprise ep with Emperor Hoshie would have placed. The cgi for the creatures was awful!!!😂😂
@DeamonChocobo
@DeamonChocobo 3 ай бұрын
Janeway honestly made the right choice with Tuvix since they were trapped in the Delta Quadrant... but I still think adding a "Thomas Riker/William Boimler" interference field between 2 transporters would be the simplest way to solve the Tuvix dilemma. One transporter set to seperate them the way Janeway did, the other set to normal, then use an artificial distortion field that has been known to create transporter clones, boom you now have a Tuvix and the 2 seperate people back.
@jasonbodine6033
@jasonbodine6033 3 ай бұрын
It’s Queen B! Woohoo 🙌🏾
@codatheseus5060
@codatheseus5060 3 ай бұрын
"They're not even YOUR eggs Jonathan!" -Steve Shives
@Biggles_James
@Biggles_James 3 ай бұрын
No DS9 which is something I can live with. All of Picard Season 2 - Possibly redeemed with Picard and Q's last conversation.
@jeremyflowers9363
@jeremyflowers9363 3 ай бұрын
Spock's brain was brilliant compared to the space hippies episode.
@SabotageGarageUSA
@SabotageGarageUSA 3 ай бұрын
I’ve always said that all of Brie’s episodes are essentially “things I hate, which I think are terrible, and everyone else should think they’re terrible too.” They feel like diatribes. This video was presented as a departure from her usual whining and complaining. It's incredible how she believes that adding a single positive note at the end will convince us she’s not complaining about her most disliked episodes. She's just as guilty as those fanboys who criticize every new Star Trek installment and because they complain so loudly and so often they manipulate Google searches to reflect their negativity.
@Fayanora
@Fayanora 3 ай бұрын
The problem with the Tuvix episode is that there was another option: they could've made a transporter duplicate of Tuvix, split one of them back into Tovok and Neelix, and thus had their cake and eat it too.
@19kilo40
@19kilo40 3 ай бұрын
Hatchery is one of my favorite enterprises episode
@autisticwitch7581
@autisticwitch7581 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call it one of my favorites, but I certainly enjoyed parts and the skill that went into it. The entire episode can be cleanly summed up as "obedience is not loyalty". It's also one of the few pieces of sci-fi weirdness that I can point to and say "not only is that perfectly possible, we have seen that happen on Earth".
@benjauron5873
@benjauron5873 3 ай бұрын
And "Nemesis" wasn't bad. It certainly wasn't the best Star Trek movie, but it wasn't the worst either. It was probably the middle of the pack. The battle with the Romulans in the nebula at the end was awesome, and, I'm sorry, but Data had to die. Brent Spiner had visibly aged out of the role. It was bringing him back in "Picard" that was weird, not killing him in "Nemesis."
@Anadarksoul1701
@Anadarksoul1701 3 ай бұрын
I do consider Tuvix a good ep. But I can see how it still debated by the fandom can be seen as possibly bad. But the fact it so engaging and fans debate who right and who wrong, think says strongly that it is a good ep. Great Video btw. You all keep up the hard work.
@adrianvanleeuwen
@adrianvanleeuwen 3 ай бұрын
"Cogenitor" in Enterprise has a terrible ending, as Trip tries to save a woman born as a surrogate slave by asking Archer for her Asylum. Archer refuses not wanting to interfere in planetary politics and its roles or non interference. The woman wanting asylum decides to take her own life, than go back as a slave, (after tasting freedom and learning with Trip). Archer then chews out Trip after she dies by her own hand. Only time in the series that Archer was totally wrong in his reasoning. Or perhaps it was actually an okay ending: to find out that the captain is not infallible and can make big mistakes at times. Profound episode which makes you think.
@antney7745
@antney7745 3 ай бұрын
The "only" time? Really? The only? The Valakians send their regards. Oh wait, no they don't. Archer genocided them.
@westrim
@westrim 3 ай бұрын
@@antney7745 No he didn't. They had CENTURIES to put together a solution - and Earth and Vulcan had just as long to come to their own decisions on how to help an already contacted planet. ALL that Archer did was say "I'm not sure of the right call here, so I'm giving them some supplies and information and kicking it upstairs." Which frankly is something he should have done more often. Which isn't to say Phlox's position isn't bonkers, it absolutely is, but time doesn't stop when the episode ends.
@antney7745
@antney7745 3 ай бұрын
@@westrim And Archer made the totally WRONG call.
@westrim
@westrim 3 ай бұрын
@@antney7745 ...To let the higher ups figure it out?
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 3 ай бұрын
@@adrianvanleeuwen They, not she. Hate Cogenitor with a vengeance. Always makes me cry.
@jameshall4385
@jameshall4385 3 ай бұрын
I still think tuvix could have been resolved with transporter magic. There are so many episodes that slpit people and reiterate them, make duplicates, or restore health. There was probably a way to have yohr cake and eat it too. They should have tried to split them and have a transporter malfunction and the only way the save them was to restore them to normal
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 3 ай бұрын
@@jameshall4385 Yes, but that would take the whole point of the episode
@cjsolom
@cjsolom 3 ай бұрын
Simple ethics 101: Tuvix exists now. Tuvok and Neelix not. Killing life to restore the "dead" is never ethical as killing even one being is wrong if not to defend another currently living being(s). Especially since Tuvix did not ask to be created at all. So he was basically innocent. Oh... and by the way: The Federation usually preserves new life. So it wasnt Federation way either. Why not keep both creatures by mimiking the Transporter Double Riker incident. ;D
@mccray82
@mccray82 3 ай бұрын
Nobody had budget to add a new actor to the series. Would you rather have Tuvix or Seven of Nine?
@cjsolom
@cjsolom 3 ай бұрын
@@mccray82 You answered an in universe explanation with a meta comment? ;)
@donaldholderdoc2910
@donaldholderdoc2910 2 ай бұрын
This was informative and kind of fun. Debates are always one of my favorite things to partake in. I agree with all of your picks. Can't think of any episodes to include other than possibly the entire second season of Deep Space Nine. I do think that Tuvix wasn't quite as terrible as the others. But I do think the ending was predictable as I knew that both actors contracts were not canceled. Therefore, the separation was kind of inevitable. Especially given the subplot of the two characters banter being a consistent series character arc. It was kind of unusual that Star Trek let that be kown. It was pretty good at keeping information that would impact the future episodes or movies are released.
@joshuaweston6531
@joshuaweston6531 3 ай бұрын
So I'm just gonna chime in on the "Tuvix" debate. Janeway absolutely did murder Tuvix. When the transporter accident happened, Tuvok and Neelix died. A new life was born. So to force that life to perish against his wishes just because you found a way to resurrect your old friends, is most definitely murder. The only part that's up for debate is whether or not it was the right choice...
@TrappyJenkins
@TrappyJenkins 3 ай бұрын
I would split tuvix every day before breakfast. Grab a drink, grab a smoke, push the button to unsplit tuvix, and continue about my day.
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 3 ай бұрын
"Delete the wife", each time I heard those words I always imagined that some women who are in love with married men would want this ability.
@cowscrazy
@cowscrazy 3 ай бұрын
If you think the torture scene isn't star trek I say your right. But these characters and humans are still new at this. They not at the level of Kirk or picard . They facing the end of the world and they are desperate. They are closer to how we would behave . Its totally justified and shows his desperation
@tenzhitihsien888
@tenzhitihsien888 3 ай бұрын
The Xindi and temporal cold war garbage were the worst parts of Enterprise.
@bbartky
@bbartky 3 ай бұрын
17:40 Woo hoo! I’m so happy you’re on Bluesky now. 😍
@rh5829
@rh5829 3 ай бұрын
I expected most of this list to be filled with Discovery. Then I remembered the title said good endings.
@JustMeJustJesse
@JustMeJustJesse 3 ай бұрын
I love all the Star Trek episodes from the TOS TNG and Voyager all of them. No matter how lack luster some are they are all amazing in their own right
@mikegary4255
@mikegary4255 3 ай бұрын
Same but they do have a lot of filler episodes. But when you’re on for 7 seasons at 20 something episodes a season, they all aren’t going to be winners
@JustMeJustJesse
@JustMeJustJesse 3 ай бұрын
@@mikegary4255 true but I still like them even if they aren't my favorite.
@davidwho1011
@davidwho1011 3 ай бұрын
Other candidates: “The Changeling” (TOS) - I can’t stand Nomad, so that ending is so satisfying. “Suddenly Human” (TNG) - They should have just listened to Worf! Brilliant. “Children of Time” (DS9) - The other Odo killed 8,000 boring people to save Kira. Wow. “Innocence” (VOY) - Tuvok tells stories until kids die of old age. Literally. I didn’t see that coming. “Shockwave” (ENT) - A confusing and convoluted plot has a shock twist ending. “Under the Cloak of War” (SNW) - Our characters can’t move on from the war, which is awful to watch. But that ambiguously filmed ending is a masterstroke.
@killingragethrowback
@killingragethrowback 3 ай бұрын
About Peanut Hamper... Khan left peacefully after losing in Space Seed, but turned vengeful in the movie. She's not the first.
@scarsdale7186
@scarsdale7186 3 ай бұрын
The excuse Khan used was since he lost, the crew member that turned to his side AKA his wife, died to the slug thing larva. That and the nearest planet to the one they were left on exploded, knocking that planet to a different orbit, causing the ecosystem to be destroyed. Like any bully, Khan blamed Kirk for his own screw up.
@jacara1981
@jacara1981 3 ай бұрын
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."
@stuartbutler6785
@stuartbutler6785 3 ай бұрын
Janeway made the right decision she fixed a transporter accident and resorted her crew.
@fozzyrinker313
@fozzyrinker313 3 ай бұрын
I love Peanuthamper! I named one of my non combat pets in World of Warcraft Peanuthamper, and possibly a horse in Red Dead Online but not completely sure on that one.
@GeorgeKingery
@GeorgeKingery 3 ай бұрын
The outcome of the episode TUViX really only had one conclusion. Nelix and Tuvok had to be separated due to each actor had a contract for the remainder of the season. If they allowed TUVIX tor remain as joined then Nelix would have lost his job as Nelix because the joined charactor was played by Tuvok,.
@Brausmith
@Brausmith 3 ай бұрын
Tuvix was played by a guest actor.
@GeorgeKingery
@GeorgeKingery 3 ай бұрын
@@Brausmith Still Tuvok and Nelix still had contracts which makes my statement true regardless of a guest actor playing Tuvix.
@itayshlamkovich465
@itayshlamkovich465 3 ай бұрын
This is the first time I see Tuvix as a trolley dilemma.
@Jbewell1991
@Jbewell1991 2 ай бұрын
So. In my opinion. I'm 100% on board with what archer did in anomaly. He was being HUMAN. Not a Starfleet officer but human. It's rare we got to see Starfleet officers being human. I love star trek dearly. But sometimes the captains are too goody goody. Archer was doing what he had to do to get information that he needed to save earth. Once humanity gets to the stars in real life I hope we are better. I hope it's in the spirit of exploration. But we can't lose our human edge. We're pretty brutal sometimes. But that just might keep out species alive in the future. Again. Before anyone yells. In real life I really hate war and violence (the f-22 is awesome though.) and I hope we spread to the stars with the intention to explore and understand other species. But damnit we're human.
@DavidBeddard
@DavidBeddard 3 ай бұрын
Welcome back, Brie!
@antney7745
@antney7745 3 ай бұрын
Why does everyone say the 10-C had great special effects? It was a blanket of red and orange with very little definition to actually see the individual aliens or their finer details.
@christovog
@christovog 3 ай бұрын
And the most ridiculous moniker.
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin 3 ай бұрын
How about an awesome series with an absolutely terrible final episode- Enterprise. In my humble opinion, every holodeck episode was a cop-out. It was bad enough on TNG, but to finish off what was one of the best series in the franchise with a holodeck episode was criminal.
@chrisohara2325
@chrisohara2325 3 ай бұрын
I have to admit, and I know it may not be popular, I really didn’t enjoy the Xindi arc at all. What burned my bacon about it was the whole “We have to get there right now!” Then messing around with multiple side storylines. What the hell?
@natty4bumpo
@natty4bumpo 25 күн бұрын
Tuvix was Janeway's real-life Kobayashi Maru moment.
@volcanicwinter4417
@volcanicwinter4417 6 күн бұрын
... and she failed the test.
@marcwolf60
@marcwolf60 3 ай бұрын
With Tuvix- one of the redeaming points is When Tuvox is talking to Neelix re the Date joke... Tuvox also added the 4 Sundae's addition. Showing that parts of each still remain in each of them.
@katherinemcdaniel8676
@katherinemcdaniel8676 3 ай бұрын
Hate me if you want, but I love Spock's Brain... and the episode.
@chrisdavis3055
@chrisdavis3055 3 ай бұрын
"The Disease" was worth watching if only for Musetta Vander.
@johnmiller7682
@johnmiller7682 8 күн бұрын
Spock's Brain could easily have been a great episode, with one minor change. Instead of Spocks Brain, it should have been Spock's Mind. Or, what would later be called his Katra. It would have eliminated all the silliness of having his actual brain removed. They could have had Spock start to learn things, as if he were child. You'd then have to deal with the moral ramifications of overriding the "new" Spock, in favor of placing Spock's mind back in his body.
@arelethithrinel
@arelethithrinel 3 ай бұрын
I agree Nemesis has its issues but god I love watching it though… that opening gets me every time
@awesomeink
@awesomeink 3 ай бұрын
I have always said they could have made a transporter clone of two Vicks and then separated the two from one of the two clones and then had a new officer
@coolphoton1234
@coolphoton1234 3 ай бұрын
In the case of Kim's relationship, it makes a ton of sense that the captain needed to be consulted. Fairly early on they realize they might end up as a generational ship...without the native facilities to support that, and consummately almost certainly established some sort of approval possess to make sure they had lead time for the...potential next generation, never mind the issues with exoship relationships, which could potentially make political waves or cost the ship an important member when they stayed behind, or surprise new crew when it turned out the relationship was gonna be a bit more than a fling...and so on
@cmillerg6306
@cmillerg6306 2 ай бұрын
Why does Tuvix supposedly concern a tough decision? It shouldnt, but we are like Tuvix: self-absorbed and weighing the needs of the one pathetically heavy.
@SnowyRVulpix
@SnowyRVulpix 2 ай бұрын
Anomaly is not a bad episode. By that point, like Captain Sisko before him, Archer is a war captain. And like Sisko, Archer has to make some tough choices between morality and winning the war. This isn't quite as in as In The Pale Moonlight, but it's close.
@TonyAnnechino
@TonyAnnechino 3 ай бұрын
Janeway murdered Tuvix, and she was right in doing so.
@natecunha2795
@natecunha2795 3 ай бұрын
There are much, MUCH worse episodes of TOS than Spock's Brain, which was just good campy sci-fi fun (The Omega Glory, Turnabout Intruder and especially The Paradise Syndrome are all prime examples). Oh, and Janeway murdered Tuvix, end of story ;)
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