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@richardharris5462
@richardharris5462 7 жыл бұрын
Really nice sequence, no quarrels with any. But, to extend it, maybe Tina Brooks? That Brazil 63 clip with Ray Charles gives you Tina PLUS Fathead Newman! And then there's Bill Barron, Mobley, Barney Wilen, Tubby Hayes, Lucky Thompson...hey, where's Lucky, got to gave Lucky!
@paulharding8405
@paulharding8405 2 жыл бұрын
Great video until #1 but worth the trip. Booker Ervin, Harold Land, and the truly undervalued Charlie Rouse did it for me. George Coleman still playing!!!!
@8House
@8House Жыл бұрын
What a find. Stumbled upon this and what great archived videos. Monk is my all time favorite musician, Charlie Rouse played for him at the apex of his career. I wish the Wardell Gray clip had been longer, I have his work in my collection. Thanks for reminding me how good Don Byas was. Gave it a like. Many thanks.
@charlierumoldboi3939
@charlierumoldboi3939 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of Larry McKenna, but great bit of playing. Reminds me of George Coleman when he was with Miles.
@jimrich4192
@jimrich4192 Жыл бұрын
Lockjaw remains my personal favorite by having the most unique sound/style of all time (other than Coltrane) but all these guys are MAGNIFICENT artists. Sal is spectacular at the end. SENSATIONAL STUFF!!!!! Inspires me to practice some more.....LOL.
@Usefulmusic
@Usefulmusic Жыл бұрын
Plas Johnson - still swinging at 91 yrs old.
@fabriziovigni
@fabriziovigni 3 жыл бұрын
Larry McKenna was completely unknown to me. The rest of the bunch I'm pretty familiar with.
@wyndhl8309
@wyndhl8309 2 жыл бұрын
RED PRYSOCK, SIL AUSTIN, BUD JOHNSON, HERMAN RILEY, SAM "THE MAN" TAYLOR, IKE QUEBEC...
@marcroigcebrian
@marcroigcebrian 4 жыл бұрын
Harold land!
@v8q076
@v8q076 Жыл бұрын
I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I FORGOT TO DO MY LISTENING ASSIGNMENT AND THIS VIDEO SAVED MY LIFE! SO THANKS, ALSO LOVE ALL THESE PEOPLE
@emilianoturazzi
@emilianoturazzi Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that Gonsalves would deserve more attention: his solo in Diminuendo and Crescendo is a masterpiece with his ability in building up a whole formal arch and his harmonic hear was at least amazing... here he made incredible things on a simple blues
@OZTHEOX
@OZTHEOX 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! It's Harold Land!!! 👌
@christopherfischer6998
@christopherfischer6998 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I listen to all of these guys on a regular basis!
@Lovethemusic385
@Lovethemusic385 6 жыл бұрын
So many great voices.
@greyhorse1211
@greyhorse1211 Жыл бұрын
From UK Tubby Hayes, Ronnie Scott and Dick Morrissey..
@Burrowstreet
@Burrowstreet 2 жыл бұрын
Stanley Turrentine should have a spot.
@fabriziovigni
@fabriziovigni 3 жыл бұрын
George Adams, Billy Harper, Jimmy Heath, Carlos Garnett, Sam Rivers, Teddy Edwards and Sonny Criss should also be in the list.
@wyndhl8309
@wyndhl8309 2 жыл бұрын
Was Sonny Criss in the tenor league or chiefly alto? Sonny Fortune, alto sax and flute virtuoso, at times "set the tenor saxophone on fire", musically( see his tribute to 'Trane)
@fabriziovigni
@fabriziovigni 2 жыл бұрын
@@wyndhl8309 Sonny Stitt was equally skilled on alto and tenor.
@wyndhl8309
@wyndhl8309 Жыл бұрын
@@fabriziovigni 💯% Sonny STITT was excellently multi-saxophonic - Baritone, Tenor, and Alto sax - his incipient weapon of musical "destruction". On the other hand, Sonny CRISS was an expert alto saxist in the vein of Charlie Parker. Prior to his illness and subsequent suicide in the mid to late '70's, reportedly, Sonny CRISS - not Sonny STITT - was making a "comeback" of sorts, not with Bebop, but with "Pop Jazz", if you will. His Great Return to what is now erroneously labeled * "Smooth Jazz" was seen as GOLD, Silver and Diamond alloyed in a musical bouquet of excellence, although short-lived. (*up, Up,Up and Away, Killing Me Softly, etc.) P.S. Check out Sonny STITT 'S interpretation of Aretha Franklin's "Killing Me Softly". He nails it with unmatched techniques and improvisational complexities: Speed, accuracy, tonality - - - you name it! Let's listen both Sonny's presentations; won't we?
@espr7564
@espr7564 3 жыл бұрын
Some great players here 😎🎷👍
@SketchPLAY1
@SketchPLAY1 Жыл бұрын
Add Cliff Jordan to the list boys, and Ernie Henry
@emilianoturazzi
@emilianoturazzi Жыл бұрын
Ernie was an alto player :)
@SketchPLAY1
@SketchPLAY1 Жыл бұрын
@@emilianoturazzi yeah youre right 👍👍
@rogerdildeau7507
@rogerdildeau7507 2 жыл бұрын
I put Lockjaw Davis at the top. Another underrated saxophonist is Charlie Ventura. Most of the modern players don't interest me, and that includes Coltrane.
@chriscarter3831
@chriscarter3831 Жыл бұрын
I met Jaws 19th May 69 at Sheffield Uk when he was with Basie. He was the best, and he deserves better. Eddie was concerned with people needing a pen and paper to understand what melody people were improvising on. Of course modern Saxophonist have lost their sole, and are tied up with technical playing. Mouthpieces are badly designed and made to play Bright. I know for I am Lockjaw 2? If you doubt me, suggest in a reply how we can meet up. I live England. I will show you how to play like Jaws. I have thousands of vinyl. I am not very computer literate though. Coltrane, and I sorry he died young, played for what 5 years, 57-62, Jaws played 52-86. Media always constructs knowledge and reality and this is the problem with any form of knowledge, for knowledge is always led by what we read, hear and see on TV etc. We are TOLD Coltrane was the best by people who do not understand TENOR. Top Sax players were, JAWS, BEN, GETZ, DEXTER, CANNONBALL, HODGES, DESMOND and ZOOT. Did you ever see Jaws with Lee Konitz? Eddie made him sound less competent, not because he was attempting to do so, this was in Nice, but due to Jaws being better then anyone else. Could it be that you are in France? You may be able to get in touch with me via Headwind in Bristol UK Sax shop. Ask for TOM. He may not be willing to give out my number, but you could leave yours for me?
@musimages23
@musimages23 7 ай бұрын
there are many others !you have picked some lovely ones thanks! but???? your particular tastes seem to go only a certain way? in terms of syles (very HARD players) whom I love as well. some i would not ness put on a list of over looked? and that limits these picks a great deal? please dont forget to tune into my ch for some of the others
@collinsteves7924
@collinsteves7924 3 жыл бұрын
Lockjaw, Rouse and Ervin are underrated? Okay haha
@musimages23
@musimages23 7 ай бұрын
you didnt give much wardell? there was once a whoile doc. made about him
@bensherman1628
@bensherman1628 4 жыл бұрын
wheres ike quebec
@andrewbillek9209
@andrewbillek9209 4 жыл бұрын
Are these guys under rated? Fans of jazz know them all. They've all recorded - maybe not as much as they should have (Nistico), some spent all their time in bands (Gonsalves), some died fairly young (Wardell Gray), some lived in Europe where they were well known (Byas), and the rest were well known (Land, Coleman, Ervin, Lockjaw, Rouse). I've never heard of Larry McKenna and I've listened since 1958; to me, he qualifies as under rated Tenormen who are under heard but not under rated might include Bill Barron, Buck Hill, Brew Moore, Tina Brooks, Walter Benton, J R Montrose. The musician's Union kept Tubby Hayes out of America and Barney Wilen stayed in France. Let's face it, jazz has become a niche music; the average American can't name one tenor saxophonist. Doesn't that make them all under rated?
@tonywolton
@tonywolton Жыл бұрын
Time to stir up a hornet's nest. Wardell Grey was THE tenor player of the above film. Missing are the mixed bag of Archie Shepp, John Gilmore and Warne Marsh, 3 very different but creative players. I know Charlie Rouse was a good tenor player, but I found his style totally predictable, and made many of Monk's records a 'meh' session.
@emilianoturazzi
@emilianoturazzi Жыл бұрын
no hornet's nest :) I' not so high on Wardell Gray, not so fond on Shepp (I had appreciated to have Ayler, but I wouldn't expect here that kind of tenor players) and Marsh (just my taste - he obviously was a relevant musician), I totally agree on Gilmore
@albertbrown359
@albertbrown359 2 жыл бұрын
They are all Great.Don't rate!
@rinahall
@rinahall Жыл бұрын
US sax players: who's overrated/underrated Overrated David Murray: howl without any rhythm, it's pretty much heard what he can do. Charles Lloyd: out of tune boring minor pentatonic scales all around Archie Shepp: he could not play in 1964 and has never been able since Kamasi Washington: high school level with horrible sound Shabaka Hutchings: it feels like 100 years of jazz never happened. Here we are back in 1899 in Jamaica Sonny Rollins: his ego destroyed his playing at 36, sorry for him Lee Konitz: has never been able to play with the minimum energy for his sax to sound good John Coltrane after ALS: belief does not justify this self-indulgence Wayne Shorter: record some beautiful compositions wasted by a sloppy game should have been sanctioned Ornette Coleman: as he said himself before a concert in Paris in 1988, he is especially known 'for playing the saxophone badly' Joshua Redman: mannered, mechanical with a repulsive sound. Composition without interest. Mark Turner: even if everyone repeats that it's good, my opinion will not change: it's boring Joe Lovano: the first time I heard it on a disc with Motian and Frissel I stopped the CD. The other times too. John Zorn: I'm told he's a genius...Ok then I'm a sardine. Underrated Rahsaan Roland Kirk: these albums are remembered as unforgettable festive moments. Gato Barbieri: opened the mind to the dimension, capacity and beauty of the instrument. James Carter: exuberant and spectacular technique bearing the heritage of its predecessors. Albert Ayler: a lit spirit that pierces through a sound and unique compositions from the depths of the ages Sidney Bechet: who had this technique and this power before him? Earl Bostic: an alien player who chose popular music but educated many sax stars Gary Thomas: crushing sound and sci fi compositions, the complete package Pharoah Sanders after Coltrane: left to himself, Sanders was capable of some of the most satisfying music ever to come out of a saxophone. Maceo Parker: powerful sound and flawless sense of rhythm, a model of joy and cheerfulness that has shaped RnB since the 70's David Sanborn: who can boast of having created the sound of modern pop alto sax with such magnificent highs? Steve Coleman: when he doesn't get lost in endless improvisations, he's a magnificent player who knows his BIRD from top to toe, coupled with a very powerful conceptualist Arthur Blythe: a sound that attracts the listener like a magnet Eric Dolphy: so individualistic and personal that no one has ever been able to imitate his tone and playing Jim Pepper: should be canonized just for his album Comin' and Goin'
@klaus8456
@klaus8456 7 ай бұрын
Seen you on commenting on other videos, And boy do i agree and disagree with youre takes. Respect youre opinion man. Coltrane after ALS overrated but Albert Ayler underrated, i did not expect such an interesting opinion. Personally love both. Bright Moments🙌🏻
@tellitlikeitis-rg4ny
@tellitlikeitis-rg4ny 2 жыл бұрын
How was byas underated lol
@rasecbarravino3490
@rasecbarravino3490 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Farrell and John Gilmore deserve to be on this list. Both were monsters on their horns
@zacharydawson5660
@zacharydawson5660 7 жыл бұрын
It's so sad almost no one knows who John Gilmore is, especially considering the fact that Trane took lessons from Gilmore and took a lot of inspiration from his playing. Additionally, on the topic of tenor players that Trane took inspiration from even in his later years may I mention Albert Ayler, I know there is virtually no free jazz on this channel but still, it's a travesty such a great player basically unknown.
@emilianoturazzi
@emilianoturazzi 7 жыл бұрын
I agree on Gilmore... I wish Ayler isn't in the list because he's considered one of the great. other guys could be, Pharoah Sanders (a close relative to Bernie Sanders I guess :)) and Gato Barbieri, too. or James Moody and Clifford Jordan...I would had avoided Harold Land, Lockjaw, Nistico (that here is the top player)... I think these men are more important than Harold Land and other guys in this list. regarding this list my top player would be Paul Gonsalves...
@zacharydawson5660
@zacharydawson5660 7 жыл бұрын
I was considering Pharoah as he's one of my personal favourites, but he did play with Trane so I would think that a lot of people would know him.
@emilianoturazzi
@emilianoturazzi 7 жыл бұрын
yes - a lot of people know Booker Ervin, too, since he played a lot with Mingus, nevertheless he can be considered "underrated" ... I've got your point close to mine regarding Ayler - but I think that the real point is that "Bernie Sanders" prefers "straight" jazz :)
@zacharydawson5660
@zacharydawson5660 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I like very few of the things on this channel, as much as people don't like me for it I'm not a fan of Chris Potter, Michael Brecker and most of the tenor players on this channel. My favourites being Coltrane, Shorter, and a whole lot of free jazz guys, like Ornette, Dolphy, Pharoah and the like.
@shakydave
@shakydave 6 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Forrest was lead tenor in Count Basie's orchestra and wrote Night Train. Also played with Duke Ellington. Definitely underrated!
@omrijoker
@omrijoker 7 жыл бұрын
when i first heard charlie rouse play it was on the "monk's dream" record and i couldn't believe i didn't know the name of someone who played so wonderfully and also was completely *IN SYNC* with monk and his style, really it sounded to me as if they grew up together or something man, what a great great player. R.I.P both to charlie and monk that gave us some lighthearted and fabulous music to make us laugh on a dreary day.
@rangerrife6006
@rangerrife6006 4 жыл бұрын
Charlie Rouse was the man it had to be challenging to play like that with Monk!!!!
@fabriziovigni
@fabriziovigni 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, Charlie Rouse was the tenor who fit Monk's music better than any other. And I mean, better than Sonny Rollins or Johnny Griffin.
@tenormadness
@tenormadness 7 жыл бұрын
Great list! Although I agree Hank Mobley deserves a spot.
@TonyRosenberg
@TonyRosenberg 7 жыл бұрын
Damn straight Sal Nistico #1 Bernie you're a smart man
@Marlg
@Marlg 6 жыл бұрын
Add- Hank Mobley JR Monterose Sonny Stitt Nathan Davis Tina Brooks Bobby Jaspar Byas and Wardell footage is excellent. Also, I hadn't heard of Sal Nistico. Fantastic. Thanks!
@gerryvanderzeypen1214
@gerryvanderzeypen1214 4 жыл бұрын
Nistico was very fast and smooth in delivery...liked him the last man out of 10, but, just my personal opinion and preference!
@greggrispart1807
@greggrispart1807 7 жыл бұрын
Another great list! However I'm partial to Larry McKenna myself since I studied with for 4 years. What a teacher and gentleman!!!
@thomasnorman436
@thomasnorman436 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Don Ross Hank Mobley should be #1.One of under rated sax player of all-time
@funnylittlehorn891
@funnylittlehorn891 6 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows Fathead Newman´s Solo on "I Got A Woman", but who knows Fathead the bebop player (also soulful flutist)? Black hard boppers of the west coast like Curtis Amy are also generally underrated. Allen Eager - at 18 - was one of the greatest players of his time.
@theheatonthefeet4524
@theheatonthefeet4524 6 жыл бұрын
Paul is the GOAT. Swinging af and super soulful
@bobbybuzby
@bobbybuzby 7 жыл бұрын
Booker Ervin! George Coleman! I may be a bit more of a modernist, but how about Clifford Jordan + Dewey Redman?
@Jiv_Ing57819
@Jiv_Ing57819 4 жыл бұрын
And we have Arnett Cobb, who by my estimation is pretty underrated. : )
@Khayyam-vg9fw
@Khayyam-vg9fw 7 жыл бұрын
Coming from England, I'd have to mention Edward "Tubby" Hayes. If you can imagine a player who somehow combined Stan Getz, Johnny Griffin and John Coltrane, yet still sounded completely like himself, you're getting close. Physically, he rather resembled Sal Nistico (shown here), and had his fluency and powerful tone. Two other players based in England (but originally from the West Indies) were the tenor saxist Wilton "Bogey" Gaynair and a stupendous alto player, Joe Harriott, who, like Hayes, died far too young.
@SunSound7
@SunSound7 6 жыл бұрын
Great bunch of clips of some excellent players. Yet no one mentioned Harold Vick or Jim Pepper. Talk about underrated. They are in my top 4 of ALL TIME. Seeing Harold play with George Coleman in the Shirley Scott group (with Eddie Gladden on drums) in some small Jazz joint in Jersey was one of the greatest two tenor experiences ever Love Always Hu Ra Kalam
@Yummynoodle12
@Yummynoodle12 7 жыл бұрын
i am so suprised the tubby hayes isnt on here, a jazz giant that no one has heard of
@johnvallis4996
@johnvallis4996 5 жыл бұрын
England's Tubby Hayes is another to consider.
@Blijdenstein
@Blijdenstein 7 жыл бұрын
Larry McKenna Yeah! Still playing great!
@philpryor7524
@philpryor7524 7 жыл бұрын
It's a wonderful list with great players playing so well, and, it automatically leads us to imagine and create another ten, and another, etc, ad infinitum. The wonderful tenor sax, (my horn, favourite playing, listening, thinking...
@quinn4626
@quinn4626 7 жыл бұрын
Great choices. I agree with others that Hank Mobley is also very deserving, but as you point out, there seems to be no existing video footage of him, which is tragic. Thanks for including Charlie Rouse and Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis - two more of my personal favorites!
@paulturnet4572
@paulturnet4572 6 жыл бұрын
Quinn - True about their being no known footage of Hank Mobley, these were MASTER musicians who should have been preserved on video for posterity.
@codystrainsnjazz
@codystrainsnjazz 6 жыл бұрын
I used to play with the Miller Orchestra and I always liked finding new tenor sounds of underrated guys. Thank you so much for putting this list together. And your #1 is my absolute favorite!!! I heard him when I was 14 and loved him ever since.
@BerniesBootlegs1
@BerniesBootlegs1 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@henridelagardere4584
@henridelagardere4584 7 жыл бұрын
*Booker Ervin* - 0:00 - "Milestones" - K. Drew, p; J. Woode, b; E. Bateman, dr *65*, Belgium *Don Byas* - 0:58 - "Perdido" - Sammy Price, p; Arvell Shaw, b; J.C. Heard, dr *58* France *Harold Land* - 2:40 - "Herzog" - B. Hutcherson, vib; S. Cowell, p; R. Johnson, b; J. Chambers, dr *69* France *Larry McKenna* - 7:10 - "The Lady Is a Tramp" - Pete Jackson, p; Carmen Gaspero, g; Benny Nelson, b; Chick Sperell, dr *??* Chicago? *Wardell Gray* - 9:36 - "One O'Clock Jump" - Count Basie, p; Jimmy Lewis, b; Freddie Green, g; Gus Johnson, dr; + Clark Terry, tp; Buddy de Franco, cl; *1950* CA *Paul Gonsalves* - 10:11 - "Diminuendo and Crescendo in Blue" - Duke Ellington *63* London *Charlie Rouse* - 13:50 - "Evidence" - Monk; Butch Warren, b; Frankie Dunlop, dr; *63* Japan *Eddie Lockjaw Davis* - 16:45 - "Cherokee" - Count Basie Orchestra - *1968*, Sweden *George Coleman* - 19:20 - "Amsterdam After Dark" - Hilton Ruiz, p; Herbie Lewis, b; Billy Higgins, dr; - *1980* - London *Sal Nistico* - 20:26 - "Sister Sadie" - Woody Herman Herd - *1964*, UK
@LeMelleKH2
@LeMelleKH2 7 жыл бұрын
Clifford jordan is very underrated imo
@egyptianminor
@egyptianminor 7 жыл бұрын
Agree. A great yet underrated player for sure.
@emilianoturazzi
@emilianoturazzi 7 жыл бұрын
me too.
@bobriedinger5287
@bobriedinger5287 7 жыл бұрын
My favorite tenor saxophonists are "the usual suspects," but among them, Lester Young and Booker Ervin (with Mingus and as a leader, co-leader, sideman) have been my "go-to" tenor saxophonists for some time. I'm glad you opened up your video with that footage of Ervin - when I saw him displayed in the "up next" videos, it caught my attention right away. Interesting to see Harold Land outside of the Brown-Roach hard bop context, and the clips you had of George Coleman and Sal Nistico were knock-outs! Thanks for uploading!
@JS-dt1tn
@JS-dt1tn 7 жыл бұрын
Warne Marsh played circles around most these cats, and is even less known :0 cool vid bernie.
@blueyedboymrdeath
@blueyedboymrdeath 5 жыл бұрын
Played circles around them? In your dreams, man. And I've no liking for his excessively airy tone and wobbly intonation either.
@JS-dt1tn
@JS-dt1tn 4 жыл бұрын
@@blueyedboymrdeath man have you even dug live at the vanguard with sal mosca?
@blueyedboymrdeath
@blueyedboymrdeath 4 жыл бұрын
@@JS-dt1tn Speed Warne has (for example his cuts of "Subconscious Lee". Just checked out acut from the date with Mosca at kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp_ZhYmYd7eKqLM, and I hear the same wobbly intonation, a not very interesting tenor tone either.
@AllianceForWellness
@AllianceForWellness 7 жыл бұрын
I have to vote for Hank Mobley too. I would put him in the #1 position, since he created such a phenomenal body of work--only to be dismissed as the "Middleweight Champion!"
@gottohavesoul
@gottohavesoul 7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@JS-dt1tn
@JS-dt1tn 7 жыл бұрын
the title of middleweight champ was not a demeaning name! it was a testament to his ability to play both sweet and heavy!
@jazzfan2222
@jazzfan2222 7 жыл бұрын
Hank Mobley EASILY the most underrated saxophonist F R E E. It's probably because he wasn't as known for his composing, which is what made many of the other tenor saxophonists more well-known. His soloing is absolutely perfect!!
@gottohavesoul
@gottohavesoul 7 жыл бұрын
Not that Hank's compositions became standards, but one look at his discography makes it clear he was a prolific composer. From what I've read, Hank was shy and not someone who gave much of a shit about being in the limelight. But man could he swing. Anyway, Hank, Joe Farrell, Jimmy Heath - the underrated list is a tragically long one.
@gottohavesoul
@gottohavesoul 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Anyone with an ear and soul knows just how great Hank was.
@tonysalvador1160
@tonysalvador1160 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much so sharing! I want to add Virginia Mayhew, Ellery Eskelin, Paul Dunmall, Glenn Spearman, Kidd Jordan and David S. Ware, Von Freeman, David Boykin, Fred Anderson, John Gilmore, and Dewey Redman.
@paulienebz
@paulienebz 7 жыл бұрын
My own nomination for underrated tenor player in America - the great Ron Dewar.
@pluttrull1
@pluttrull1 7 жыл бұрын
Charlie Rouse! underrated big time.
@legoblox01
@legoblox01 6 жыл бұрын
Mmmm Paul Gonslaves Amazing sound. I love his playing and phrasing
@33uptempo
@33uptempo 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for taking the time to compile this video and posting it. I might include Georgie Auld and Don Byas? And I will take exception to calling Eddie Lockjaw Davis and Paul Gonsalves underrated......most jazz fans/musicians regard them highly. Since I'm an old fogey, I don't know the modern ones as well, but I'm so glad that they are keeping jazz alive, and for people like yourself who put great music on you tube.
@33uptempo
@33uptempo 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry....I guess you included Don Byas.
@MrOfflain
@MrOfflain 7 жыл бұрын
Don Byas gig video with Duke is pure gold. :D
@eugenesedita
@eugenesedita 7 жыл бұрын
So nice to find your post here, Senator. Very interesting and I couldn't agree more with all your comments about this marvelous American art form. I'm familiar with all but one, Sal Nistico. I see he played with The Thundering Herd. I'll have to give a listen . It's great to know that you support this music among all your other worthwhile pursuits. Thanks for All you do. My whole family support your good work for our beleaguered nation. Please, keep up the good fight. Sincerely, Gene Sedita.
@byronsigrano6849
@byronsigrano6849 7 жыл бұрын
Bernie, this is a great post and I've been back to listen several times. It has really got me thinking of tone again and why my favourite bop tenor player is Booker Ervin. He has the most modern sound, imho, of the ten. It is like Trane's sound, only more up there. The others who are closest here are Rouse and Coleman. One of the things about Booker's playing that gets me is his use of the cry, like at 0:15 here, maybe that's a Texas tenor thing.
@wyndhl9465
@wyndhl9465 5 жыл бұрын
Red Prysock, Sil Austin (Jazz), Carter Jefferson, Antoine Roney, Bill Beasley, Joe Farrell, flip Philips, Hershell Evans, Johnny Boards, Chu Berry, Frank Foster, Eric Dixon, Dick Morrissey, Andy Sheppard, Courtney Pine, Billy Pierce, Budd Johnson, Buddy Tate, Gene Ammons, David Newman.Don Freeman, David Sanchez, Javon Jackson, Victor Goines, Camille Thurman...
@wolfricketts3631
@wolfricketts3631 7 жыл бұрын
Curtis Amy,Bootsie Barnes,Willie Akins,Bill Perkins,Earl Grubbs & SO many more!!!
@jamesf1525
@jamesf1525 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you had Nistico on the list. He was one I thought of right away. Saw him with Woody a couple of times in the 60's. That was one of the best bands of all time. Also- Don Menza and JR Monterose worth checking out. Ditto for Lew Tabakin.
@blueyedboymrdeath
@blueyedboymrdeath 7 жыл бұрын
Ervin's work with Mingus is some of his best, but this clip is really hot. What's it from? Is there more?
@pectenmaximus231
@pectenmaximus231 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for turning me on to some people. On the note of Land, I have no idea how he's so relatively underappreciated since so many players that get lots of love were big fans of Land's
@denniswong7355
@denniswong7355 7 жыл бұрын
I've heard of all of the players except Conrad but you omitted Hank Mobley but glad you listed Harold Land, Booker Ervin, Don Byas, Charlie Rouse, Paul Gonsalves, George Coleman and Sal Nistico in the batch---all great tenor players.
@MrMinowahiro
@MrMinowahiro 7 жыл бұрын
Great list. Thank you Mr. Sanders. Several persons I definitely want to add to this list are John Gilmore, Bill Barron, David Newman, Junior Cook ..................and, most of all, RUDOLPH JOHNSON !!!
@charleswhitsey4830
@charleswhitsey4830 7 жыл бұрын
Aware of all of these musicians. Jazz fan since the age of 10
@59trader43
@59trader43 6 жыл бұрын
There were many more than that ,these are the jazz greats ,not as big careers as the giants of jazz but to all us jazzers equal in value for there contribution to the jazz world and history.they lived the life but not as famous.i agree with Maestro Curtis Comments and very well put. also to me Don Byas was the grandfather of jazz and a jazz giant.so was lockjaw.Charlie Rouse with monk is jazz history right there.Tubby Hayes from UK should not be forgotten in these lists as well as many more.This is Not underrated it is just jazz history plain and simple and should be known about by any jazz player today.
@kladmonet9
@kladmonet9 7 жыл бұрын
Charlie Rouse and Thelonious Sphere Monk are top from this selection. But in the 1st place should be Joe Farrell! Thank You!
@chevyvan9568
@chevyvan9568 7 жыл бұрын
there were so many great players back then man how do you choose. Paul Gonzales and Eddie Lockjaw Davis were my fav's
@Rob_-dv6ei
@Rob_-dv6ei 5 жыл бұрын
These guys are all really incredible but I think the reason they are underrated is that a majority of them have sounds very similar to that of John Coltrane and Charlie Parker - which is an amazing thing to achieve but what this video says is that if you don't have a unique voice on the sax then you won't do as well as the greats, which is hard enough to achieve in itself.
@thomaskipfer1008
@thomaskipfer1008 4 жыл бұрын
Any more, BIG Band is hardly heard of... sad rendition of now verses then. These guys were the Topps of their eras. What enjoyable music!
@helluvagun
@helluvagun 7 жыл бұрын
Booker Erwin, Don Byas!!, Harold Land, Larry McKenna(new to me), Wardell Gray!!, Paul Gonsalves!, Charlie Rouse, Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis, George Coleman,, Sal Nistico(new to me) Thanks for posting! Now I got two more to listen to.
@COOLBOY-nq1cw
@COOLBOY-nq1cw 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Griffin's pretty underrated player
@Babasunship
@Babasunship 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think this video was posted as a competition as some of the comments here seem to desire... Sure, there are probably 100 or more tenor and alto players that were extraordinary, but lived and died in obscurity, only to be known by their contemporaries. What you hear in all of these these tenor players is there unique personalities, originality, passion and swing, which is something lost on so many of the young "college-educated soloist" of today. Good technique and the mastery of cliches can get you noticed and take you so far, but in the process, the magic you hear here is dying a slow death.
@danvalicenti8945
@danvalicenti8945 7 жыл бұрын
I love the list! Thanks for creating this.... although, I am biased to George Coleman and didn’t see Hank Mobley who was in the shadow of Trane and Sonny. Paul Gonsalve’s solo at the 1955 Newport Jazz festival with the Duke and he’s from New England makes him a heavy weight. Where’s Billy Pierce? I miss Boots Randolph too
@henridelagardere4584
@henridelagardere4584 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, only Boots would have made this list complete!!
@jojoUK120
@jojoUK120 6 жыл бұрын
Henri de Lagardère and Paul Desmond?
@finnohea982
@finnohea982 7 жыл бұрын
The clip of Paul Gonsalves has so many similarities to a recording of Ready Go, a lot of the same phrases and licks. A beast
@danrosati3779
@danrosati3779 7 жыл бұрын
To me they are MASTERS! I realize Bird, Coltrane, Dexter got all the accolades but to us lifelong amateur jazz musicians an jazz junkies, we recognize all of them as a handful that can create at the high level!
@unifb2007
@unifb2007 7 жыл бұрын
Seamus Blake should definitely be on this list - Since Coltrane has been "my musical hero" since 1959, I think I know what I'm talking about - "KEEP ENJOYING THE SOUNDS OF JAZZ" (especially my favorite instrument, the tenor sax)
@j.g.c.vanderiet8123
@j.g.c.vanderiet8123 4 жыл бұрын
Chris vd Riet Nathan Davis, so smooth, soulful and gentle, I always hum his compositions when I feel good (esp. those he recorded with Woody Shaw, the trumpeter). He ended up in Germany, with the Kurt Edelhagen orchestra, like Carmell Jones and Leo Wright. And was never heard of again. Thanks Bernie, in general for posting this wonderful material, and esp. for including Wardell Gray and Sal Nistico, unsung heroes indeed (as they all are, perhaps except for Paul Gonsalves, whose very last solo I watched in Rotterdam NL -- there was little to listen to anymore, he died a few hours later -- and Eddie Lockjaw. Underrated, okay.)
@kafenwar
@kafenwar 7 жыл бұрын
Paul Gonsalves, Wardell Gray and Don Byas definitely. Harold Land has a very interesting and somewhat understated approach to the hard-bop style, similar to Coltrane but not nearly as shrill--stylistically somewhere between Coltrane and Wayne Shorter.
@Darrell1019
@Darrell1019 7 жыл бұрын
A nice way to start a Friday eve.
@dansnownicholas
@dansnownicholas 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I'd include Clifford Jordan, Gene Ammons, Lucky Thompson and Eddie Harris
@Jiv_Ing57819
@Jiv_Ing57819 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ Paul Gonsalves ffs. : )
@Jiv_Ing57819
@Jiv_Ing57819 4 жыл бұрын
And for very recent players (last 30 years) we have John Butcher. : )
@charlestrane
@charlestrane 7 жыл бұрын
George Adams. I love his quartet with Don Pullen and NEVER felt they got the accolades they deserve.
@grahamlyons8522
@grahamlyons8522 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for taking the time compile and edit this clip. Fascinating.
@RutherfordRyan1
@RutherfordRyan1 6 жыл бұрын
Good concept, now you’ve started something. Nice footage, great musicians ! More please !
@amenentuet
@amenentuet 6 жыл бұрын
Great Post ! However , when I Descend to My Man cave and Fire Up My System , Hank Mobley and Booker Ervin Are My Go to Men : NO ROOM FOR SQUARES / TEX BOOK TENOR ETC .
@PeekaPeep
@PeekaPeep 5 жыл бұрын
Glad Booker's on that list. He's in my personal Top 5 as far as tenor players go and it wasn't even his first instrument (trombone was)! No surprise to see Coleman's name on there as well. Played on many historic sessions with some of jazz's biggest names back in the day, such as Miles Davis and Herbie Hancock for example. Think the most glaring omission was Hank Mobley, though. He could swing with the best of 'em and was an important figure on Blue Note during the hard-bop era in particular. Other than that, it's all good!
@marselmusic
@marselmusic 6 жыл бұрын
YEah harold land... He doe stompin at the savoy with Clifford Brown... amazing
@saileshsivakumar1404
@saileshsivakumar1404 7 жыл бұрын
After all, Paul Gonsalves was the man who made the lady dance at Newport and reinvigorated Duke Ellington...
@rosy15825
@rosy15825 6 жыл бұрын
That sal was a beast, love his style.
@chensiding0
@chensiding0 7 жыл бұрын
Harold Land for sure
@arestabellini7076
@arestabellini7076 6 жыл бұрын
what about tina brooks?
@eberniewon
@eberniewon 7 жыл бұрын
Rouse was such a great player. Could not agree more with his selection. Not his fault he played in the shadow of Monk...
@wyndhleodumegwu253
@wyndhleodumegwu253 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, Prez! Paul Quinnochette and Bud Johnson... Booker and Sal were swift - "Breckerish" (Michael) in quality of licks. Larry McKenna is a sweetheart - so orthodox and constant. All are great guys - some unsung; all, heroes. Wardell Gray and Dexter Gordon were friendly combatants. Had Wardell Gray survived longer... boy, oh, boy! Woe unto Dex (just kidding)
@robpraise100
@robpraise100 7 жыл бұрын
I kind of agree with the list with an exception. Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis being underrated ? By who? Definitely not the musicians. He's one of the few players that could hang with Johnny Griffin note for note.
@Jiv_Ing57819
@Jiv_Ing57819 4 жыл бұрын
NO HE IS UNDERRATED YOU TAKE THAT BACK. : )
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