$1000 High Speed Camera Vs. $180 000 High Speed Camera

In this video we test 3 different priced high speed cameras, 1000$ Sony rx-100 , 3000$ Chronos 1.4 and 180 000$ Phantom v2512 to see are they all worth of their price.
Chronos cameras www.krontech.ca/
Phantom cameras www.phantomhigh...

[@Beyondthepress]

IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE TEST AND PRICES: The comparison footage was filmed on really busy filming day where we did something like 6 HPC videos so we didn't use lot of time on the settings for the Chronos and Phantom. To get best possible result on those cameras you need to use bit more time than with the Sony. But this shows what all cameras do in same amount of time. Also I have to mention that I don't know exact price for the Phantom and it probably varies a lot acording the memory and other options but our camera was with top specs so it's probably somewhere around there, at least with the lens since all other prices also include lens. The price for mark 4 rx-100 probably also varies a lot but I think you can get one with 1000$ Also since the test footage is pretty old there is now newer software for Chronos that improves lot of things so the picture would be probably better now with Chronos.

[@-danR]

Why does everyone always leave out the Shimazdu HPV and/or HPV-X ($250,000). It's monochrome, but their fastest beast does 10,000,000 frames/sec. That isn't a typo: ten _million_ .

[@britishsteel35]

tubeist- dan probably hard to get hold of at that price

[@-danR]

Blade 7:18 Oh you _rent_ those suckers; not many many people own them; any owners are usually specialized testing firms who are going to be using them day in, day out big time. If you're North Korea and want to test various nuclear implosion detonation configurations, you figure out a way to steal one.

[@elmikeomysterio5496]

tubeist- dan got a quarter mil I can borrow? Its only $0.25 per frame, seems reasonable. Lol Edit: im accounting for actual rendering editing time alongside other incurred ownership costs involved. That shit adds up. Even flat out buying a phantom and the time needed to take and make a video is almost 50% the cost... Maybe that's why nobody brings up a camera that even MIT wont use unless DARPA or another government agency foots the bill.

[@Choice777]

You can get a 1000 fps camera for 50-100 bucks used on eBay. The Casio Exilim life fc100, fh100, fh20, zr 100, etc are cheap. But they only film like 250x60 pixels at 1000 fps. Fh20 films a bit better at 360x90 1000 fps.

[@Anniarvaja]

If you want to watch more bottles I made video about Finnish alcohol policy and drinking culture! 😁

[@imbok]

Those bottles are for drinking instead.

[@godfreypoon5148]

Oi stop hijacking HPC videos for your own benefit :P :P

[@godfreypoon5148]

+David It was a joke...

[@Anniarvaja]

Jokes are not allowed here! This is a serious place with serious and professional people!!!!

[@iv2925]

You have The best "hier wi go" in The entire Galaxy. And as always awesome video

[@bonecanoe86]

When I read the title I thought you were destroying the cameras rather than using them!

[@Beyondthepress]

We have crushed one broken Chronos camera :D I think it's quite easy to find

[@technicalfool]

Now I have to wonder if Phantom would send you a couple of factory rejects just to see you smashinate one, and press another. Guess there's no crime in asking?

[@shaolinwisdom]

I like how the price range went from 1,000 to 3,000, then jumped to 180,000. Just buy 180 of the cheap one.😂

[@stephenmitchell3569]

I own a private shooting range and have been wanting a high speed camera but as a master combat shooter know too little about this subject. Your video is excellent and helpful to my needs. Thank you and your wife... always produce great videos with honest feedback! Thank you👍👍👍😇😇

[@XanderLuciano]

You could always rent a high speed camera for a short filming session.

[@SassePhoto]

That's an excellent review! I have the Chronos 1.4 and completely agree with your analysis. Many events in nature can be covered up to 8,000 fps, so it is a great camera

[@turbolivesinmyheart6328]

You guys are always so cool. Seems like no matter what you record and post, I always like it and I always get caught up in watching it. Keep up the good work, and as always, be safe.

[@timorus8090]

Great comparisons. I enjoy capturing things in very slow motion, though I'll also take video of people and then go through frame-by-frame and find the most unflattering frames or sequences where it's normal, click-click-click, looks like palsy, click-click-click, coma look.

[@seaneman6789]

I have the S9+ and love the slow mo on it. Great video!

[@HomoKieran]

You can remotely trigger the RX100 with a USB remote, you just need to make sure it has a movie record button on it. You still need to press the set button in the centre of the rear dial to start buffering but you can use the remote to end the recording.

[@freerider_8168]

I love your guy's channel! Definitely at the top of my list for content!!! :) Also may i add, your mobile game Destruction Tuber Simulator is amazing!!! I almost have all the tools upgraded, plus the added clips of voices is even better 😂😂😂

[@tonimahoni2607]

The moment you hear the accent, you know the video is an authentic one ^^

[@sonnycruz7032]

Sounds like he could be Kimi Raikkonen's cousin.

[@jacksidewalker4188]

It would be cool to own one of those slow motion cameras. Great video.

[@Beyondthepress]

It's sure fun to just film some birds etc. with chronos for fun but usually 1000 fps is enough for every day stuff so you can have lot of fun now days just with bit more expensive phone.

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

Good video and great primer on high speed cameras. Thanks

[@YCbCr]

RX100 IV vs V: Immediate thing to notice is the AF sensitivity/speed improvement as well as the recordable length in high speed mode. Speaking of which I sometimes prefer the IV because its smaller buffer is faster to write to SD card. (Either that or they have to be used side by side on a shooting range for example.)

[@elmikeomysterio5496]

For the cost, the chronos is just stupid awesome. Idk why it's not more popular. You and Taofleddermaus are the only two people I can think of immediately who use it regularly... Maybe Slingshot Channel, but I cant think of the last time he said that it's what he uses... I think he mentioned it before but I may be wrong. It still blows my mind that the guy who made the chronos managed to fit that level of quality into such a small and affordable package.

[@elmikeomysterio5496]

All that said, the black and white verson is honestly pretty useless for anything other than research, but only because b&w isn't visually stimulating.

[@Beyondthepress]

I think slingshot channel uses it quite a lot but it's not as important part of the videos than with our and Taofleddermaus videos. Joerg should also probably but bit more effort on calibrating the white balance and doing some work for the picture on post since his videos are usually really strange colored and have other issues also.

[@elmikeomysterio5496]

Beyond the press, I agree. He got a bit lazy after hitting 200k, even more so after he started getting paid advertising offers. He may have also just run out of shit to make, tbh. However, that's pretty irrelevant to the fact that the chronos is insanely good for the cost. I'm a musician myself and honestly know a total of fuck-all about white balance or whatever, but I know enough to see a great bit of tech when I see it. The phantom vids y'all do are nice and all but the reason I watch thpc is because of the originality of your content. You somehow manage to continually come up with new ways to use the press and completely unique videos unrelated to pressing shit. Even when you do the same thing twice its always "new" because you actually put effort into shit and are involved in each video... Unlike a certain "crusher" who makes relatively boring ripoff vids or half assed videos of cheap shit being shredded without any commentary. Keep up the good work. My wife said "Tell Anni hi, and where does she get those leggings? The universe ones."

[@sataTemplar]

¿¿ $ 180.000 ?? With that money, i would buy the Phantom... the Rolls Royce Phantom.

[@connorhill6520]

when i saw the "vs" i thought they were gonna smash the cameras together!

[@mehdikhadem2576]

Thank you for the video

[@fastamx069box8]

You did a really great job on your demonstration / analysis so everyone could both understand and see the difference between the three platforms. Again, great job...!

[@DJAsHeRMusic]

That phantom is something else never ever seen slow mo that slow that was insane and great quality to. Guess that's why it's 180000€. Really thought the Sony was nice picture and would be plenty slow enough for sports etc and worth the money.

[@XanderLuciano]

Have you not seen the slo mo guys? They do AMAZING camera work with the phatoms even at the ridiculous frame rates. Smarter every day also just did an awesome video on colored rings colliding that looked amazing. The phantom just needs A LOT of light at those high framerates.

[@Chuckiele]

well, the higher the speed, the more light you need.

[@dtiydr]

One of the the reasons it look so good is mostly that it has at least 1080p resolution at speeds the fex Cronos only can do say 240x120 at the same fps. The sensor it self is also from the very pro line and cost probably what a normal Chonos would cost, and that is only the sensor.

[@reiniskols3551]

Another great video 🖒

[@simonmccauley8187]

I'm impatient. I always watch these slomo videos at 2x speed.

[@kkonstantinosss2]

You forgot about the casio EX-F1 and all it's compact cousins. Casio sadly doesn't make cameras anymore, the EX-F1 is the way to go, as the lenses tend to wear less (although the compacts are super durable too) It can record 1200 fps at a avery low resoltion, it can also do 600 at an almost decent and 300 at a very usable one, the big advantage to the casio camera is there is no recording time limit on the high speed modes (although there is a memory limit by the old SD standards that will only let it take smaller capacity SD cards) Also the EX-F1 and every casio I've had have ridiculously awesome battery life. To be clear, I don't recommend the EX-F1, there are many issues with it. but definitely the best budget high speed camera, and if you want to pay less and get slightly less quality, it's smaller cousins are also awesome... 1000fps with no limit for like 150 dollars, a lens that can zoom, and the newer cameras can take larger SD cards, you could leave them recording for hours. I wonder if one couldn't take multiple high speed casios (the ex-zr) series and then stick together the 224*64 1000 fps or multiple ex-f1s and stick together the 336x96 footage. Just stacking two on top of each other would result in 448*128 for the compacts and 336*192 for the ex-f1 and you could get really long clips out of them, especially the compact ones for a super low price. and why stop there? Just keep adding cameras and you get whatever resolution you want. Although I don't know how you'd synchronize it.

[@electroumit]

Thank you. Good work.

[@imbok]

It is very interesting how the soda level in the neck drops so rapidly! I'm assuming this is from the pressure of the trapped gas between the top of the fluid and bottle cap that is released as soon as the glass breaks. Very interesting!

[@mehdikhadem2576]

Thank you for comparison. What are my options in the 10000 - 25000 $ price range?

[@Pinkielover]

nice to be rich.. The camera can feed me for the next 30 years in the usa, which would be the rest of my life. since im 46. Mind you I am homeless living out of my car Watching this in a library parking lot

[@beamboi2775]

Awwww

[@beamboi2775]

:( I feel bad

[@TheMrsorge]

Buy any amount of bitcoin you can

[@demolitiondavedrillandblast]

Thanks for that info

[@rbwirth12]

Your lighting seems to be alright for your channel size! Keep it up! ;)

[@quantitativeease]

1:35 "...and we are going to crush..." For a terrifying second there I thought you were going to crush a Phantom v2512!

[@hhthoj]

this looks like inception. things get slower when you enter a dream, and more slower when a dream is inside a dream.

[@Glyxis.]

Holy fucking shit... $180 000 Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK!? You really could build a house with that amount of money. That is nuts and there is NO WAY that camera is worth of that money. Even if we take one 0 of from the price, it's still as expensive as a car.

[@Oogwayofbenin]

THIS CAN BE USED TO DISPROVE TIME DILATION. If Albert observe THE CLOCK ON EARTH using the BEST POSSIBLE HIGH SPEED CAMERA TECHNOLOGY, both clock with run at same rate. OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

[@tbirum]

Yes you are missing an education. TIME DILATION has been proven as Science FACT.

[@marcd7332]

What

[@jeremiahkennedy1683]

The shoulder of the bottle is the path of least resistance. Slo MO is awesome

[@jeremiahkennedy1683]

ColdHeart so explain inpact resistance? Water resistance? Wind resistance!!!😎

[@jeremiahkennedy1683]

Try and smash a diamond with plastic and then try to tell me how the diamond didn't resist the force of the plastic?

[@jeremiahkennedy1683]

ColdHeart did all of that make you feel better? Lol your too easy.😎

[@jcims]

At a million frames per second, light moves ~1000 feet per frame. I wonder if you got a laser shooting microsecond pulses if you could see them fly away.

[@phoephoe795]

If you pulsed a laser/high powered torch at a reflective surface it should work

[@wastedwizard5112]

You got your Maths wrong I think. Light moves at just under 300 billion meters per second (3x10^8 m/s) So say your framing is a width of a meter, to be able to see the light for 2 frames, you'd need 300 billion frames per second. Usually you'll only get one single frame of laser pulse. To get light at say, for one second of regular footage, 24 frames, we'll need 24 times that framerate - 7.2 trillion frames per second. Also a microsecond burst would be Akin to a few decades or so of footage. But youd be able to see the front and back of the beam move.

[@jcims]

3x10^8 m/s is 300 million meters per second, not 300 billion (3x10^11). So, light travels 300 meters in 1 millionth of a second (1 microsecond). A 100mw laser shot across a lake or large field against a reflector several km away would reflect back to the camera and easily be seen. At a distance of say 2km, you would have 6 frames between when the beam left the laser to when it reflected back. That would be easy to see even in a relatively low resolution.

[@RufftaMan]

You'd have to have something like fog to disperse the light though, else you won't be able to see the laser beam in mid-flight.

[@jcims]

Typically yes ,but I've found that green lasers are very good about being visible in 'clear' air. Whether or not you could get microsecond pulses with a green laser is another matter, AFAIK they use frequency doublers which may have some kind of resonance or something to work through(?)

[@ianproffitt3679]

Do full 30min clip high speed high res, then set a list of thing for viewers to find.

[@glennallen496]

You mentioned in the video the prices for those cameras in Euros, but in the video description, the same numbers you said are shown in Dollars. Is it $1000 or is it €1000?

[@KPishere]

Excellent really helpful. We want to buy high speed camera for inspecting our high speed machines installed on production floor. What is your recommendation. And what should we look into before buying these cameras for us

[@tcg1_qc]

I ain't no expert but don't spend 180k on a camera just for this. That Chronos should be good. Or you could always rent one.

[@chunk3646]

Could you add the smashinator in your new game? It’s the perfect tool for the game!

[@Beyondthepress]

I have to ask from our game guy :D If the game starts to generate some revenue we are going to make updates to it that add more stuff to destroy and probably new tools also

[@pioneerAv]

Are you guys still going to get the bigger press?

[@Beyondthepress]

The negotiations with companies that were suppose to sponsor that went bad and the project was canceled. But we might get 400 ton machine since that's much easier get than that 1000 tonner that we tried to build

[@SpectrumDIY]

Hell yeah

[@scythelord]

And just yesterday SlowMoGuys put out a video using the new Phantom v2640, capable of 12,500 fps at full HD, which honestly is more than enough for most anything you could film. Taofledermaus films his shotgun slug videos using a chronos. Hell, 12,500 fps is good enough to film a bullet traveling sideways through the video frame getting one image of the bullet per every 2 inches of travel assuming a high 2000 feet per second velocity, which is much faster than pistols but slower than high velocity rifles. A good mid point. And that's worst case scenario.

[@GrOuNdZeRo7777]

Anni jiggling in slow mo...lol that would be a sight to see.

[@versatilesamuel1607]

180000$?! You two f*ing crazyyyyyy

[@jaimdiojtar]

beyond the press can you tell me how much the new x2640 cost with all the accesories?

[@simonedmunds8732]

The S9 is really quite impressive

[@jayeme1483]

Ready when you are CB .

[@ryanpenrod1859]

Why does the top of the bottle appear frosted after it breaks?!? It's clear beforehand...

[@philipwebb960]

With the Phantom you can see WHERE the bottle breaks and WHY; you can't with the other two.

[@tcg1_qc]

But, is it worth 180 THOUSAND dollars in order to see this? I would buy a supercar instead. Or a house.

[@MrJ0mmy]

Amazing

[@szymek8579]

nice video m8

[@maxeditz9377]

RX 100 which version ? 3 4 5 6 ?

[@GradyRho92]

When are you guys going to do another Q&A

[@Mrooooooooooooo]

Tosta jarruvideosta päätellen suurnopeuskameralla sais komeita kuvia esimerkiksi rälläköinnistä tai muusta kipinöivästä työstöstä. Ei muuta kiasmaan taidenäyttelyä pystyyn :D

[@Anniarvaja]

Itse asiassa yks taiteilija teki kerran prässäämisestä sellasen videotaideteoksen ja se teos on myyty johkin Kiasman kokoelmiin. :D

[@jaywalker2213]

1:33i love you GUYS..your so great together..

[@atte1652]

Aika siisti

[@JohnDoe-iq4kz]

what are the three frame rates?

[@MrBazsi888]

what do you recommend today ? MAX 2000-5000€

[@YarosBoxkiller]

The new chronos 2.1 1000fps 1080p

[@rogerhamilton8029]

i had a dream i rented a phantom and someone knocked over the tripod and broke the camera. kinda a weird dream but iafter hearing the prices i thought i would mention it. I didnt know they were that expensive. i was think around 25k usd

[@SuperBurninguitar]

These are the sort of videos that i wish were only about 1 minute and featured only side by side footage. KZbin videos are too bloated to try get that add revenue these.

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

thanks forr watching

[@Anniarvaja]

And have a nice day!!

[@4gauge10]

I have the super-slow-mo and extra-fast 📷 camera features on my LG V-20 smartphone📱⬅with 8 wide angle and 16 standard megapixel lens.

[@noconz0727]

Love your channel. Y'all are such a cute couple.

[@rootbrian4815]

My JVC Everio can do 300 fps at 480x320 (shamefully software-scaled to 720x480, i'll figure out a way to get it at the proper resolution) without sound (yuck!). That requires a second audio recorder and syncing it based on speed/timing alone. Worth the $60 used. 128GB memory card inside it. Older canon cannot do high-speed recording.

[@RoboticNerd]

The dollar sign goes in front of the value :P

[@dogfish3373]

Depends on where you live.

[@christiensebastien2442]

lol WHAT? 25 billion pixels? No. The camera is 28 megapixels. I'm not sure how they calculate gigapixels, but it isn't actually 25 billion pixels.

[@mevlutcolgecen340]

Yaassss

[@SupereKrakersik]

You have honda s2000?!?! Im jealous

[@HydraulicPressChannel]

SupereKrakersik I have had it bitbover two years and it's really fun little car

[@SupereKrakersik]

Hydraulic Press Channel is it difficult to drive during Winter?

[@ROMANXY-nu9rj]

cool

[@Micetticat]

Inception!

[@mellowjello2593]

show us the phantom camera!!

[@Beyondthepress]

I didn't film enough b-roll from that thing since we are always so busy while using that since it's quite expensive time when you have it running :D

[@PaulK390S90V]

Did you run each camera at its highest speed?

[@Beyondthepress]

The sony was at full speed but two other cameras at full speed have so small resolutions that it's not useful for filming bottles

[@Avitaser]

In 20 years, your kids disposable sunglasses camera will be better than the Phantom is today...

[@tommihommi1]

Leo Dei lolno.

[@jrand2631]

In 20 years there will not be any kids, as this world are going straight to hell. 1. The two most powerful nations in the world is run by mad men with a lot of nukes and trigger happy fingers! 2. Apparently all the Africans do not want to be Africans anymore, they want to be Europeans, so they're heading our way! 3. Ultra right wing movements gains a lot of momentum these days, and more and more people join them - doesn't that sound like something we've seen before, when a certain Austrian painter/decorator in Germany went nuts? so yeah... Have a nice sunday. :)

[@Avitaser]

Zapdos You would know. You come to what is basically a comedy channel and vomit hate. Disgraceful...human?

[@Avitaser]

Zapdos Slow down, there WWE and PewDiePie lover. If I had seen the channels you like I would've realized you were a genius and never responded to your shaming me. Forgive me, your excellence. If I might be so bold as to draw your considerable attention to my comment, I said "your kids disposable sunglasses camera". You see, this is what we call a 'metaphor'..but of course, you knew that; because of your superior intellect and rapier wit. Just to refresh your train car sized cranium, Wikipedia explains that: A metaphor is a figure of speech that directly refers to one thing by mentioning another for rhetorical effect. It may provide clarity or identify hidden similarities between two ideas. I was going to go through the three-part metaphor I used, by I'm sure you're already light years ahead of me, so I'll us both the trouble. I'm sure it would've been a waste of time...twice fold. Peace.

[@Avitaser]

Zapdos 'Trying to be smart'.. you didn't bring a knife to a gun fight, you brought a crayon. Listen to Zuluknob...go back to school. You have courage. Good. Get some education and manners to go with it and we can talk. Good luck. Study hard, you've got a lot of catching up to do.

[@win132001]

That would actually be 250 million pixel frames/sec NOT 250 million frames/sec.

[@lordgarth1]

You should keep an eye out for surplus. Thunderf00t bought one of those 180K cameras (yes probably an earlier model) for 15K on ebay.

[@Beyondthepress]

Thunderf00t's camera is another model and it's closet to Chronos in than v2512 in terms of speed

[@bubbajenkins123]

Hi Guys! Do you get any sponsorships from any of the cameras?

[@Beyondthepress]

Not in terms of money but we have got two Chronos cameras for free and we have got also Phantom cameras couple times for free for one week for promotional purposes.

[@bubbajenkins123]

Beyond the press that's good that you got a trade, because you certainly do a great job of promoting their products on your videos.

[@7hundred929]

Seeing this in a mobile with 8mp camera

[@LouSpowells]

180,000 gyros?!?! I want one! Thanks for the videos, btw. :)

[@stevenhe198911]

wow

[@RichardHartness]

Sponsored post? (...by the Galaxy S9 from Samsung!)

[@yuh377]

Is dat kanes

[@KingJangOng]

That camera costs more then my mf house

[@Marauder1981]

If a camera films only 8 seconds, how does it know when to start filming?!

[@LoialOtter]

Normal use of high speed cameras is to post-trigger. That means that you start the recording right away and it uses the buffer as ring, overwriting old frames as new ones come in. After the event you hit the trigger button or stop recording and review the footage to find the event. You can also configure both the Phantom and Chronos to take a trigger input that records for a fixed amount of time before and after the event which helps when you're trying to capture a very short event.

[@Liam-B]

I find your lack of PERKELE disturbing.

[@planken13]

Euros or dollars?

[@Beyondthepress]

Dollars, I am not sure where mark 4 rx-100 runs now but it's probably pretty close to 1000$

[@nirv]

$1000. Get it right.

[@kickstarter5168]

euro or dollar

[@MarcHumer]

Why not filming a $1000 with a $1000 - and so you geht a Million fps for $2000 ^^

[@risto3425]

Samsung Galaxy Ass 9 6:46

[@AnttiHara]

DÄNG! Sony RX100m4 on saatavilla remote palikka, "Sony RM-VPR1" joitain kymppejä iibeissä, miinuksena naurettavan lyhyt kaapeli (tyyliin 2 jalkaa), mutta ebaysta löysin 8m pitkän korvikkeen ja sillä pärjää jo aikas pitkälle.

[@AnttiHara]

Omasta RX100m4 HFR on tarjolla 4 eri kuvausmoodiaAukkoja ja valotusaikoja mm. voi säätää ominpäitte, kameran softaversio on 1.30, tiedä sitten miten uusi se on. Mikäs siinä tein yksilössä on/oli (oliko tää se mikä myöhemmin prässättiin?)

[@Beyondthepress]

En ole muuten päivittänyt tota sonya ikinä :D Täytyy varmaan päivittää ja kokeilla tuleeko jotain uutta. Tekis tosin vähän mieli ostaa se uusin versio kun toi on niin kovassa käyttössä muissa puuhissa ja siinä olis vaikka mitä siistiä tullut nyt uutta.

[@AnttiHara]

En kans ole päivitellyt, tuo on se softa jolla tuon 2016 lopulla ostin. 2.00 firmis näkyy julkaistun 30.3.2017, pitääkin katsoa josko päivittäisi.. erot 1.30 ja 2.00 välillä on tosin pienet mutta..

[@kdoran709]

There is no reason for the canera to cost 180k. Other than the manufacturer making ridiculous profit.

[@Beyondthepress]

I think they kind of need that profit to develop new cameras. They don't sell those much when compared to cameras like sony so there has to be much more profit in one camera to cover all development expenses

[@gracefulmender]

You have the blue S9? I have a blue S9 too.

[@cncgeneral]

The Galaxy S9 is better and cheaper surely?

[@mylogify]

Pritty gueed

[@PrinceGaming-bl3ix]

All I need is a phone and I’m good

[@ljushastighet]

02:18

[@shadow_stalk]

is tht his sister or biological twin?

[@DJAsHeRMusic]

I need me a S9

[@mephInc]

I'm still rockin the S7. I refuse to spend $1k for slightly better. They days of upgrading every year are over for me. I really miss being able to destroy a phone and go "eh. It was $40. I'll get another one tomorrow".