1000 Peasants vs 50 Ogre Mages - Warcraft 2 FIGHT CLUB

[@Nihiliste-]

One dead Peasant is a tragedy, a thousand dead peasants a statistic

[@RandomBattler]

819 dead peasants is a victory.

[@tyomies6168]

*autistic.

[@janzalud216]

thousand dead peasants is warcraft :D

[@ly8370]

Stop stealing the classic line from Red Alert 1's Joseph Stalin. 😂

[@XCroxousX]

​@@RandomBattler dunno why i laughed too hard at this

[@Quitarstudent]

i find it funny that blizz made only two faction game with 90% identical units and they still coudlnt balance it because of bloodlust :D:D

[@ivankuzin8388]

They needed to add auto-heal to Paladins - yes, it is proven a much weaker ability, but for most (casual) players the need to micro the bloodlust vs auto-cast of heal would've balanced that out )

[@X3MgamePlays]

Yip, they made a mistake there. Undoing damage isn't the same as twice the damage. On paper, it sounds perfectly balanced. In reality, the paladin player needs to be perfect in skills. The magic cost is off though, but I forgot by how much. Bloodlust should cost more magic.

[@Quitarstudent]

@@X3MgamePlays dunno the % dmg of bloodlust (100%?¨) but it could be just lowered to balance it

[@X3MgamePlays]

@@Quitarstudent You are right. 50% would be more than enough. Also, armor is subtracted after the bloodlust is applied.

[@gamemaster2638]

@@X3MgamePlays Actually, Bloodlust triples Ogres damage. It doubles both normal and piercing damage and, at results, Ogre deal triple damage.

[@Ostsol]

This might sound sadistic, but I love how the OM's Bloodlust battle cry blends so well into the sound of peasants dying.

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

WC2 has a lot of great sound design. Especially the soundtrack.

[@Dowell318]

LOVE THESE VIDEOS!!! I really thought the turtles would beat the destroyers, as the copter couldn't reveal them all at the same time, especially once they'd encircled the destroyers...but the weakness of the turtles came out quickly as the circle began to close and the copter could reveal them without having to travel as far. Wow! Loved it!

[@sphtpfhorbrains3592]

LOVE THESE VIDEOS TOO!!! I picked all matches correctly except for "Alliance vs Grunts & Beserkers" and "Death Knights vs Paladins". One's Warcraft instincts get really challenged by these matchups. Oftentimes it's good to go with the side that seems like the obvious underdog (especially in terms of costing less resources overall).

[@ЧарльзЛару]

Excellent! I had same thoughts.

[@Inquisitor_Exterminatusov]

Yes, me too

[@benwierchowski3496]

I also put my money on the turtles

[@Dowell318]

So many of these fight club fights, come down to the auto-tactics of the units. For instance, in that last battle where the alliance fought the horde...the archers were dispersed throughout the melee units...but if the melee units had led out, and the arch had stayed back behind them, the result may have been different. Though bloodlust is OP as hell.

[@sphtpfhorbrains3592]

As a spectator in the fighting pits of Azeroth, always put your gold on the bloodlust ogres.

[@washtubz]

You want that though because otherwise they can't support the melee fighters against the demons. Blood lust just too strong

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 Peasant army says hi.

[@blackberrypriv6311]

also the heros vs grunts and berserker one is only working due to the bottleneck, correct positioning of the healer in the second row and the full mana from the beginning for kadghar to cast blizzard...

[@Orpheusftw]

I love these. It seems exactly like a way I could have entertained myself for hours as a kid.

[@ericwalker8382]

Still impressive 50 ogre magi kill 819 peasants. Couldn't say I was surprised by the pally/dk fight though.

[@francoisdross5557]

yeah that was 200 units against 200 of their hard counter that can 1shot them...

[@Tie509]

​@@francoisdross5557 Death coil doesn't stand a chance against exorcism!

[@paulmonn7988]

If half of the DK mob used death and decay it would have been GG for the Paladins.

[@justinkong9954]

Head one : They have us surrounded! Head two : Oh goodie , then we can fight in all directions.

[@TransientWitch]

Lost: chose Ogres Won: chose Paladins (AoE and toughness > spellcaster not using their best spell >.>) Won: chose Destroyers, but was nervous near the end there Won: Danath unstoppable. Everyone thinks Lothar's death was your fault, Turalyon, just like last time. Won: that many ogres with backup cannot be denied.

[@FennorVirastar]

Before seeing the first one the question "Will the ogres attack fast or will they hesitate after a killy?" This will make a huge difference on targets that die quickly. I think ogres would have won if they attacked faster.

[@sphtpfhorbrains3592]

1000 peasants vs 50 ogres though. They survived with aout 18% remaining. I only chose the peasants because I wanted to see them win.

[@washtubz]

For the heroes one, I was team horde at first but when I saw the position and the choke, I changed teams. Never doubt ogres mages so I lost on the first one, and also lost betting on turtles.

[@omnijuice44]

I lost on turtles. Really expected their invisibility to be more powerful since it was just 1 flying machine. Otherwise I won on the rest. The last round: The horde had better units in general. I am surprised the alliance held out for as long as they did.

[@GrommiD]

OH MY GOSH, ITS MARVELOUS. The Last Fight with 60 FPS and 1.25 speed was soooo smoooth, soooo spectacular, soooooo BEAUTIFUL. Thank you for the video. We need more, definetly more WC2. The Fight with the Destroyers and Submarines was slightly unfair, but still the Ships has won the Fight.

[@SilentDragonW3]

The re-targeting speed seems to be the most detrimental aspect for any small vs large group setups. The ogre mages could probably have easily killed the peasants if they didn't take more than a full second to target a new one.

[@kBandik]

These videos are always so well made! I absolutely love watching these bloodbaths

[@SamuraiTacos1]

the peasants i rooted for

[@sphtpfhorbrains3592]

Job done!

[@SamuraiTacos1]

it was most exciting fight

[@SoraNgin]

This was amazing!! Thank you for the memories! I've never seen Warcraft II presented in this manner, it's awesome! Keep up the great work!

[@thomasfradd2034]

Hi STU. Love your videos, you inspired me to play BEYOND THE DARK PORTAL campaigns. I’m up to final mission of both human and orc. Forgot how much I loved this game.

[@BaranZenon]

I love how Paladin skills are so powerful, but since those require so much clicking compare to cast bloodlust on something, slap it in its bumm and send it to kill stuff with Ogre Mages, are mostly useless. It would be nice if Warcraft 2 had autocast for Paladin skills, like those in Warcraft 3.

[@Blazieth]

Still doesn't quite compare even if the Paladins had Autocast; the AI isn't restricted by APM, and Paladins STILL lose to Ogre Magi, and it's not even close.

[@OldSkullSoldier]

@@Blazieth Probably Bloodlust should cost at least twice as much mana or simply give smaller bonus.AND be only self cast. Also do not forget that runes-mines are also crazy powerful.Use it in front of enemy army and you get a free kill. Probably Exorcism was mant to make more even battles of Knights+Archers+Mages vs Ogres+Berserkers+DKs by making Mages in such battles most important units, but it requires so much micro. Still it would be fun to see such battle, where most dragons are polymorphed, rest lose badly to high damamge and range archers, most DKs are exorcised and then Ogres try to massacre rest with their bloodlust.

[@IdealIdeas100]

Well years later, someone developed a trigger editor for WC2 and made it so you can turn autocast on for healing

[@Kirmakoff]

Love the vid! Fights are really creative. At this point we should think what would actually beat ogre magis and their bloodlust - because those guys win every time. They only lost to peasants!

[@fraddstar]

Warcraft 2 fight club is the best ! Love your channel man keep up the great work.

[@majermike]

STU these videos are so far above any other gaming videos out there, and educational

[@aaroncarlsback7239]

5:06 FOR SPARTAA!!

[@errata]

Thank you for making these, they always make me smile.

[@dorpth]

"Always bet on bloodlust!" (peasants win) "Uhhh....."

[@vesuvyan]

All I have learned from these videos is that Ogre Mages with the auto-cast bloodlust are OP as hell. Put them up against any similar cost army that they can actually auto attack, and they'll win. Prove me wrong in the next fight club.

[@streetstroller]

Similar cost mages with blizzard will crush them.

[@celticjordan1]

The knight at the end… “uhhh”!!!! Then Ogre just stares silent at him for like 10 seconds…. Then uses bloodlust… 😂😂😂

[@cris.duarte.m]

the sound of the exorcism is between satisfying and tetric

[@HouseRN]

“Job’s done” 🥶🥶🥶

[@robertherter1640]

OK who ever played War of Craft before knows each others strength on each side i mean awesome video but very predicable

[@astovar23]

Good thing i'm not a betting man, I only guessed the last one! awesome vids as always!

[@juice6521]

I can imagine the fear in the eyes of the Ogres are a horde of men, without fear, climb over the corpse of their fallen to beat you to death with their bare hands.

[@dannyldd]

Hello, could you please tell me which unit from War3 did you use to get Lothar's voice acting in 4:46? Thanks a lot.

[@StuGames]

It's from Hearthstone

[@washtubz]

I love some of these sweeps like the paladin one, cause it's just like yeah 134 remaining, honestly what did you think would happen? Also that fight was cool as fuck because they don't just do exorcism as soon as they're in range the do a bunch at once when they're close.

[@treehann]

these are the kinds of epic fights I wish I could have seen as a kid playing this game.

[@sebastiannemeth-ramirez2160]

So what did we learn? Bloodlust beats everything except peasants.

[@kylethomas9130]

I remember trying to use cheats against some map's ai, thinking I was invincible. Then they whipped out spell casters, and still trounced me. My lack of skill was very apparent back then.

[@marcuslevy2932]

I was pleasantly surprised by the Destroyers and LOVE THIS MADNESS!! However the horde and Alliance match was COMPLETELY out of balance once you added Ogre Mages it was OVER!! That was B.S. and totally one sided :( Add Dwarven Mortar teams and gryphons and it would be much more balanced! :D MADNESS!! :D

[@Games_and_Music]

I was unaware of the semi-OP status of the Ogres, and being Mages, i had assumed that they were going to do a lot of AoE, but apparently they're still more useful for melee. I thought they'd win, considering the sheer army size that they were up against, which meant that they had to be strong, but i was wrong either way, and with 181 remaining, that's 18%, which is a substantial amount. I was way off on the Pally vs DK fight, i thought the DKs would have some kind of answer, but it was over real fast. The turtle fight was pretty cool, i betted on the Destroyers, because i thought that their attack would compensate for the damage they get, but when i saw that the Flying Machine had a small radar i started to think that the turtles would win, especially when they started surrounding, but it worked out in the end. The Heroes seemed obvious to me, although i wasn't fully sure about it throughout, but i just figured that they had to win. With the last one, i thought it was also obvious that the Horde was going to win, because i saw the Alliance Castle at the back, i figured that the video would end with them smashing the Castle, and i just wanted them to win anyway. But on reviewing it for this comment i noticed that the Horde Castle was underneath the Daemons, so my prediction was based on nothing, but i was still right in the end. 3-2 Score for me eventually.

[@sebamartinho]

Very nice battle!!!

[@sebastiannemeth-ramirez2160]

The Paladin/DK fight was ridiculously one-sided. I knew how it would end. A lot of people don't know the massive range of Exorcism. It's only 2 points shy of Death and Decay. That plus the fully upgraded melee attacks virtually guaranteed victory from the start. If it was say, 50 Paladins versus 100 DKs, that might be a bit different.

[@aceshighdueceslow]

at first I thought the peasants were going to be destroyed, but it wasn't too different a match up as the Ultralisk vs SCV fight a few vids back. The naval battle? That one was a toss up, I couldn't really predict which way it would go since it was hard to tell which side's ships were sinking faster

[@albdamned577]

lothar having a custom speech thing always threw me in the base game, he is in it for 5 seconds before being killed. I was so proud the time I could actually type "It is a good day to die" fast enough to keep him alive.

[@Blazieth]

The funny thing is, because of the way the triggers attached to that map work, even if you DO save him, you'll have to kill him yourself to end the map unless you use a straight-up victory cheat.

[@andyhansen5905]

That horde vs alliance army was brutal for that last group of rangers. It was pretty obvious the ogre-magi would win but I underestimated just how fast they could plow through them. Blizzard really never thought bloodlust was OP?!

[@wuzzle5261]

You think Lothar's death was my fault, don't you??

[@trajan231]

Love Danaths line "Draw steel boys"

[@WipesHandsOnPants]

Damn, my death knights are drooling over that pile.

[@S20TBL]

OMG the slowdown during the ally vs. horde army fight

[@StuGames]

When a Warcraft 2 server reaches its limits... 😎

[@benjamink1403]

The 1000 Peasants vs 50 Ogre Mages fight was like election night

[@Ottriman]

Suggestions. Mages vs Death Knights, both only using their starting spells (Fireball vs Death Coil). Mages (Casting Blizzard) vs Ogre Mages (Casting Bloodlust). Lets see which factions best spell is better.

[@_NDC]

5:05 just add a bit of slow motion, and you basically get Zack Snyder's 300.

[@thinkforyourself2109]

WC2 is still one of the best video games of all time. I spent countless hours playing it when it came out with my brother. That and Doom 2 and C & C red alert are the best three games ever, IMHO.

[@RainingMetal]

Do you plan on doing a Warcraft III Fight Club?

[@StuGames]

yes but I hope they fix the Remaster first

[@RainingMetal]

@@StuGames Honestly if Reforged doesn't remove the unit selection cap like how Starcraft II does it it's not worthy to me anyway. Command and Conquer never had any unit selection cap so there was no excuse for it to exist back then either.

[@Xalendare15]

Bloodlust nerf when?!?

[@prasaite]

After polymorph nerf

[@rivanrn9079]

​@@prasaitebut poly is useless -_-

[@prasaite]

@@rivanrn9079 Told it for my death sheep knights, or Sheep dragons

[@infestchristopher1457]

Blizzard Entertainment could've remade Warcraft 2 first instead of three

[@reckoner1913]

I was thinking I must be missing something with DK's vs Paladins, or it's just going to be an exorcism bloodbath. It was just a bloodbath. Also, when I used to play WoW I generally got to drop BL in the raid, and I liked to always say "WRBBL UURBBBBLLL Bloodlust". Memories.

[@SuspishFish]

When the lumber _chops back._

[@martins4781]

For the Alliance!

[@nospoilersplzthx]

definitely didn't see the destroyers winning with the limited vision. others went how I'd expect

[@imjason791]

Где можно скачать игру с таким высоким разрешением?

[@AlryFireBlade]

1_52 What does the Ability Exorcism do? I never understood it.

[@OldSkullSoldier]

It damages undead specifically: Death Knights and skeletons. It has quite high range, very useful in few campaign missions, since you can scout with flying machine and kill deathkinghts from afar.

[@Kirmakoff]

@@OldSkullSoldier Doesn't it act like a mana burn? Like if a death knight has 100 mana, it'll be hit for 50 damage?

[@florianpierredumont4775]

1000 Peasants can have a >82% death ratio and still win. Impressive. ^^

[@МихаилЖилин-щ9г]

what was that flying melee from orc? don't remember that i know only grifons from hum and gragons from orc from wc2 (both with line attack)

[@Inquisitor_Exterminatusov]

Oh, paladins with exorcism vs death knights with death coil - is that what i wanted to see. Thanks for that! I rooted for paladins. P.S. In first battle i rooted for peasants :)

[@ЧерныйОрел-в3е]

Вот бы еще увидеть бой магов Лордерона против Рыцарей смерти орды. Кто сильнее. Потому что складывается впечатление что Маги сильнее Рыцарей Смерти за счет заклинания Превращение. К тому же еще одно преимущество это заклинание Магов-огненный щит и невидимость. Что на это могут противопоставить Рыцари смерти.

[@Shavlov77]

Прикол!)) Это ж надо до такого додуматься)

[@TheSuperColonel]

"Perfectly balanced" blood-lusted Ogres in the last battle........

[@sevoo1579]

children's crusade footage

[@Astroga159]

My predictions: Fight 1: ogre win by landslide Fight 2: paladin win by landslide (since DK do 50 to primary target+10 to secondary damage per death coil, you need 2 direct hits for 1 kill while pally can oneshot 1 dk with full mana) Fight 3: Turtle win Fight 4: alliance win Fight 5: horde win

[@StuGames]

Seems like I caught a lot of people off guard with the turtle vs destroyer fight!

[@Jeff_the_Hobo]

4:45 Hold up, Lothar has lines?

[@StuGames]

not really 😉

[@justinedc1077]

All war battles were won by the Alliance except for the last one cause the Horde have the BURNING LEGION daemons with them plus the OP Ogre Bloodlusts. First battle is why peasants learned how to fight as militias in WC3. There was no surprise of the outcome between the Paladins vs Horde DKs at all. Not even half of the paladin numbers were killed. The Alliance heroes vs the army of orc grunts and forest trolls is awesome! Of course Khadgar did most of the damage. Danath is a one tough soldier! Alleria is the best High Elf Ranger of all time! Uther and Turalyon being major healers.

[@test-rj2vl]

Is the code that you use to automate this game available somewhere or is it private?

[@Hugh_Jas]

Paladin/DK matchup is the easiest choice I've ever made.

[@Suryoyoz]

Nice video! you should have done one fight with the Horde champions also!

[@StuGames]

check out last episode =)

[@LadyQ_1169]

Hi Stu! How did you get that AI update plugin working? I think I've found it but for the life of me I can't get it to run in game. It's annoying because all the computer does is the old crap of building turtles on sea maps and never attacking with anything else lol. I have googled and googled and no one seems to have an answer on how to install the mod.

[@StuGames]

You should probably try asking on the Warcraft 2 Server discord, all of the modders are on there. I got my plugin files from edo directly, so they might be different from what you've downloaded!

[@LadyQ_1169]

@@StuGames Okay I'll look it up. Thanks!

[@LadyQ_1169]

@@StuGames hey thanks a bunch for mentioning the Discord. I didn't know it existed and immediately got a lot of help there. I have to play a full game today to be sure but I tested a little bit last night and it seems the game is working with the plugin now. ☺️

[@jonathangardner4475]

The peasants would do better if they let the others spread out.

[@AlexanderRussPaladin]

Звуки от битв божественны, как и достойны отдельного музыкального сопровождения

[@Blackwingsss]

Last fight was winnable by alliance :/

[@danieldobkowski7116]

Meh, lost only at turtles/destroyers fight :X

[@fatboyjr364]

Your videos are like meth just addictive

[@Leptyzz]

Hey Stu, are you ever going to take up warcraft 3 again?

[@StuGames]

yes, for sure

[@Leptyzz]

@@StuGames glad to hear it, I will be looking forward to that

[@legionofpie]

*Looks at board before fight* Do the Orcs have Bloodlust and Ogres? I'd like one bet on the Hoard, please.

[@SteinerArts]

Will you ever do videos like that of the original StarCraft one day? Looks great! 😃 👍🏻

[@StuGames]

I already made a whole bunch of them 😎

[@SteinerArts]

@@StuGames Oh, that's wonderful! Thank you! Haha

[@ivankuzin8388]

@@StuGames Only War3 left, although it is not as spectacular - units are too tough and battles look very long (when you're just looking and don't need to micro you heroes at the same time :) )

[@StuGames]

@@ivankuzin8388 Blizzard is considering relaunching Reforged with "updated classic graphics" so I'm holding out on wc3 for the moment!

[@ivankuzin8388]

@@StuGames Oh, that's wonderful news (assuming they will do it) - after enjoying SC Remastered I was very close to buying Reforged, but then reviews started coming out...

[@xXxGameboy500xXx]

Peasants: FOR THE SWARM!!

[@Asturiel]

First fight looks like the conquest of Soledar by the rashists

[@doramon6668]

Alliance heroes vs Horde was interesting. If 7 heroes can beat army, so its logical that 25 heroes in WoW raids can beat any boss of demons, dragons and da Dark Gods) And yet dis combat Heroes vs Horde looks like standart mission in Dynasty Warriors or Samurai Warriors games

[@junhyeonglee863]

Don't mess with the peasants

[@Basaraassassin]

make this video on war craft III

[@Romess1]

Fuck I was really rooting for the subnautic turtles to win that one.

[@tauIrrydah]

I think those Death Knights were defeated by the Hayes code.

[@Knuckles2761]

Ogres could have used trap runes.

[@arnantosaputra8001]

Strategis dulu

[@fargoretro]

should have had more air units in the ships vs turtles battle

[@ed_gorod]

wow nice video !! )))

[@mustangfanatic8517]

I love your work! 13 year old me would have killed for a trigger editor back in the day. This was the first game where I could create my own maps, and I loved it. But the AI really didn't leave you with too many interesting options

[@legionofpie]

So that's why everyone says "any detection and turtles suck" 🤔

[@nights8880]

i always liked to consider Danath to be a bad ass, by both stats and behavior

[@nooneinparticular5256]

I'm willing to bet the Ogres would have won if they opened up with Runes

[@Ozzblahing]

It was all ogre once the peasants got the 360 surround going.

[@thomasseeley8124]

Hold the line!

[@volbound1700]

I thought the sea turtles would win, especially with how bad the flying machine was.

[@andreireal9158]

guessed right everything 'cept for submarines vs destroyers)

[@mityakosyakov]

Power to the people! :)

[@Menntaron]

Paladin with Heal + Ranger vs Dragons and Orge-Mage with Bloodlust + Beserker Troll vs Gryphons. Then we will see, witch is better.

[@Minizemful]

There's a witch?