100k Home Cinema - Ruined Plans In 5 Minutes

[@JuanDurandt]

This is awesome! I also like the fact that your customer has a clear task list so you know exactly what you need to do.

[@MAMDAVEM]

Just completed a 7.2.4 dedicated home cinema following a ton of research. The speaker cable length is a non-issue, the most important things to get right are cable thickness , ideally 12 or 14 gauge, and making sure that any mains cables are not routed parallel with them to prevent induced voltage and potentially mains hum. A much bigger influence on the sound particularly with a multi-speaker set-ups in a small room is the amount of room treatment (absorption and diffusion) to address the relections off the hard surfaces like walls, ceiling, windows and uncarpeted floors.

[@peterswinson326]

spot on, good advice

[@AmauryJacquot]

it's always useful to have all cables in plastic tubing for maintenance or upgradest even if you have 10m difference between the lengths of 2 cables, there is no way one's brain would be able to discern the 30ns delay between the 2 channels (30cm is about 1ns)

[@bikerchrisukk]

Really pleased you got this job Nick, makes a nice change eh. A customer like that might one day have a New Build designed and built and get you onboard for the lec and net 👍

[@Cyberbyte_010]

I can safely say, as a tech nerd, there is going to be a lot of superfluous cabling installed into the walls, so much so a future buyer will either be grateful, or think "What on earth was he doing?" lol. For a 3 bedroom house, CAT cables would already run up to 21 runs of cable for the minimum amount of network connectivity in my mind. 2 "zones" per room (entertainment area, desk area), 2 data ports per zone would be baseline. That way there's a backup cable for expansion or damage on 1st cable. But then you get into the weeds, WiFi access points and CCTV for indoors and outdoors, smart home stuff that doesn't use WiFi/Zigbee/Z-wave, or things that are not IP based but their own system but use CAT cables for P2P like HDBaseT and multi-room audio over CAT using TV audio as the source. And that doesn't include other cables that isn't CAT. Like speaker cable and Coax for standard OTA TV/Radio. WiFi/Wireless is good, and getting better all the time, but wired is king. I think the electrical building standards really needs to be updated to have at least 1 data port per "zone" per room for all new builds. Especially since after lockdowns, a great many ppl do not want to give up the working from home arrangements. As with everything, it's the physical infrastructure that holds everything back.

[@thenullco]

A great many people also don't want to have to plug a cable into their laptop to get online. Besides, wifi is perfectly adequate for most home workers who just need to access basic web apps and the ability to join video calls. Some housing developers provide data points in several rooms but I see maybe 1 in 20 of these homes actually utilising them. A more economical option is to give new build buyers the choice.

[@haldo691]

I've got a 24 port switch that's full and an 8 port switch every tv point has 2 cat 5s and a few extras in each room removing as many fixed devices from WiFi helps the only things using WiFi in my house are phones laptops and tablets if something needs mains power it can have mains networking too

[@JamesGriffin-u2w]

For 99.5 percent of people they don’t need cable. WiFi can do pretty much everything good enough for most people excluding people heavily into tech

[@GaryB007]

I used to be Technical Manager for JVC. My speciality was the high end home cinema stuff, including custom control programming, calibration, etc. Some of the systems were even more expensive than that one.

[@MrBfJohn]

Don’t worry about cable length with regards to audio timings. It makes absolutely no difference. Veritasium has some interesting videos about how electrical fields travel, and that the physical distance from source to load is what matters.

[@dennis6442]

When 1 home cinema is absolutely not enough !

[@MarcusNailor]

That's dead impressive! The PoE screens are giving me ideas... I just can't wrap my head around two cinema rooms in a single house 😆 but I shan't knock it until I've tried it 🤩

[@lordgeeker1138]

Nice. I like how he's doing it properly. The trunking/conduit for cables is a Godsend for future changes/installs and well worth some pain. To be honest though at the money he's spending I'd have just ripped the boards down and re-drywalled when cables are in that room. And I really hope he's not playing them form actually DVD/Blu-rays. He must have a media server in there.

[@lordgeeker1138]

and assuming they do,put an nfc tag in each blu-ray box, scan with phone, brings up the content from your media server then allows you to play the video.

[@TheChipmunk2008]

HAHAHAHHA 10 inches, you've been asking Adam's mum again

[@gideonvanniekerk6418]

Bru really appreciate the consistency in your content ⚡️

[@chrisglover1978]

That's a fantastic system... and you thought I had a lot of speaker cables installed :-)

[@jvoric]

Blimey! I hope their house is detached!!

[@lordgeeker1138]

I was interested in what sound proofing was downstairs

[@mikej2005]

Nice work ! Why do they have an extractor fan in what was presumably the lounge ?!

[@tonywatson1412]

When you laid it all out...nick...i lost the will to live , mate....catch you on the next one !!

[@brianmckenna3440]

Great video Nick you Missed a couple off opportunities to bring in Adams mum 😀 😉 👍 😄 😊😢😂😂

[@jameskane9763]

speaker cable distance on this sort of install shouldn’t make any difference as its travelling at the speed of light

[@cedarstuff]

No it isn't.

[@markrowland5393]

@@cedarstuff "It's the electromagnetic wave rippling through the electrons that propagates at close to the speed of light. The dimensions of the wire and electrical properties like its inductance affect the exact propagation speed, but usually it will be around 90 per cent of the speed of light - about 270,000 km/s."

[@jameskane9763]

@@cedarstuff I work on PA systems designed for thousands of listeners and can tell you a few meters makes no difference.

[@Monkeh616]

@@jameskane9763 He's not wrong, though - depending on your cable the velocity factor is likely to be in the region of 0.6 to 0.9.

[@HencoSmit]

The amount of blu-ray disc's in that home theater room. Just wow.

[@bradallen8909]

*Discs.

[@smitcher]

When you can't be bothered going up 2 flights of stairs, just build a new cinema downstairs...

[@PearsallEu]

More credit card available balance than sense

[@dvyt433]

Just stick a surround amp in the corner job done

[@geoffupton]

okkk... thats more like a studio than a house! overkill definitely! but at the same time well cool! now lets guess the owners name starts with a J and works for a company whos name starts with A and ends with N 😂😂😂 jk the owner has style n taste, thats for sure 😊

[@porttastic]

Why the hassle of fishing cables, chasing was the way. Whoever is plastering would also plaster a bigger chase.

[@dvyt433]

A delay on the audio over 20m of speaker cable lol.

[@TimmyBoja]

7:45 - "10 inches left there..." 🤏 🤣

[@cinemasbyjames]

£100k is a bit wrong advertising really. The hardware for that room is maybe £15k at most. The C4 panel are a grand retail

[@SPMelectrical]

Very jealous of working on Control 4, I would love to help wire a house for control 4 but believe you need a licence to do it?! Loving the content as always. Loving the new Bundy 2.0!

[@lordgeeker1138]

Home Assistant -+ plex = working mans Control 4 :D

[@dvyt433]

If he's just configured a control4 panel for you he's got to be an authorised installer, the public can't get those tools.

[@whatthedeuse]

If only they had clad the walls in acoustic stretch cloth no chasing required then 😂 Seems like far too many speakers for such a small room 🫣

[@RyanDonaghys]

What's the make/ model of screen? would go very nice in my smart home setup. Not as fancy as that setup few lights / plugs lol

[@DanDelamatta]

At the 12:00 minute mark, when you cut out the box holes, you would get less chip out if you ran a blade around the perimeter first, cutting the sheetrock's paper layer. It doesn't need to be deep, just deep enough to cut the paper layer

[@EthanMellor-bl3vw]

do more tool videos love the videos ⚡

[@MyNameWasTecho]

I love my Bosch laser, but the magnets are absolute rubbish 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Cablesmith]

This is so sick!!

[@tuboid001]

I'm confused, why do the cables have to run from one cinema room to the other? Does the new cinema room not have it's own equipment?

[@bobby449]

Are the sparkles on the cinema ceiling lights or are they projected?

[@alsanova]

Look like fibre optic light

[@tazzy3469]

What happened to showing the cable tool?

[@ianc8814]

Customer could have bought a high end TV and a Bluetooth surround sound system and had enough change from their 100k to buy a yacht 🤣

[@Sparks9133]

Great earner keep it up nick

[@richrowley8355]

Nice one Nick

[@iauk1122]

Think they overpaid, that control system looks a bit naff. Starlight ceiling looks good though!

[@WeRemainFaceless]

You know what they say, a fool and his money are easily parted.

[@paulwilkinson6608]

Wouldn't want to live next door to that

[@pablomagee2999]

Plastic trunking lid would of fished up wall…

[@imark7777777]

To continue the joke... I wonder who's home cinema this is, does their KZbin channel start with an "A" and end with an artisan?

[@moonpunk]

Cannot understand why these people with modest little homes go to such effort and expense to have a “cinema” room - their cinema is the size of a broom cupboard! Why bother?!

[@Cam.Klingon]

Tiny home cimena room

[@alanak3210]

What a load of cobblers.

[@oddjobkia]

It Is not the length of the cable run per-see it is because they are not balanced cables that will be the interference problem..

[@Shteev91]

Two home cinemas? 😂😂😂

[@edc1569]

My projector is only 4k

[@ringroller46]

What a waste of time and money!

[@willj1927]

When you can’t agree what movie to watch…. Watch 2 at the same time. 😂

[@brianpurcell9058]

More money than sense !!!!

[@FaisalKhan-yk9oc]

😂😂😂😂

[@dsmale7067]

For people with time on their hands 😬

[@Chenty91]

Nah some people buy multiple cars and nobody bats an eyelid. Don't yuck someone's yum. It's not your money

[@jamieosullivan2527]

100k stop talking crap

[@curtis7739]

Third

[@dangallagher2306]

FIRST

[@CameraTim-DAMMITDOTcom]

The speed of electricity going through wires is massively faster than the speed of sound through the air, you won't get any audible delay through wiring in that tiny space. Where a person sits/stands and where the speakers are will affect phasing, though (absolutely microscopic delays). Nor should the tiny differences in wiring difference affect amplifier/speaker performance, unless you were running ridiculous ridiculously thin wiring.