10 Minutes of Useless Information about Knights of The Old Republic 2

[@100StarWars]

Visas Marr's voice is HOT - Who's ready for a SWTOR version of this? Muahahaha! Also, come follow me on twitter thx

[@sjin550]

Dew itttttttttt

[@Spiritus_Invictus]

Visas Marr's voice is done by Kelly Hu. She's the same actress who played "The Sorceress" in the movie The Scorpion King, Every time I see that movie I just couldn't help seeing Visas.

[@cipherxi8513]

I’m ready for it. I got the name too…

[@100StarWars]

Kelly Hu in that movie was one of my childhood crushes lmao

[@jordancox8289]

A SWTOR version would be pretty interesting.

[@lordnihilus3198]

‘‘Visas' voice is best thing ever” Influence lost: Kreia.

[@100StarWars]

Hahahaha

[@KFP_YT]

To this day, we still wish we could charge up her loading ramp :(

[@davido.1233]

@@100StarWars considering the fact that she's voiced by Kelly Hu, I'd have to agree with you 100%.

[@maxparish3563]

Obviously this is the inside joke amongst kotor 2 fans, but IMHO, Kreia's voice acting is literally the best voice acting, maybe best acting of any kind, in all star wars content ever imho

[@lordnihilus3198]

@@maxparish3563 that's why I put this reaction in the first place, but Kelly hu Comes really close as Visas Marr.

[@sajuuk9432]

Amazing how Avellone didn't originally like Star Wars, but his dedication to his work really made one of the single best additions to the universe. The fact that people are still talking for hours about KOTOR 2 all these years later really makes me believe it might have been the pinnacle of well written Star Wars. Great video, the craving for more KOTOR never goes away. Please continue.

[@andrewhennagir1331]

or that the games today are poorly written and easily forgettable

[@100StarWars]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ALoveEternal]

Outside of the OT, Kotor 2 is the single best piece of Star Wars content IMO.

[@bacd-nn2lg]

I would not call this "Useless Information".

[@dylangrayson9190]

@@andrewhennagir1331 this doesn’t necessarily take anything away from KOTOR 2 being good. Just means that nothing since has been good.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

What makes Avellone's initial apprehension about Star Wars even more interesting is the fact that he made it quite clear that he did not like the idea of the Force. He really hated it apparently, but it's why he made Kreia's philosophy so antithetical to more traditional interpretations of the Force.

[@100StarWars]

Indeed! His disdain for it is what made KOTOR 2 so interesting!

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

@@100StarWars In particular, I rather enjoyed discovering that he enjoyed the "sci-fi and fantasy parts" of Star Wars but he purportedly HATED the Force. This invisible all controlling Force that effectively just gave people the illusion of free-will (I get why he hates it! 😂😂). But I've always found it so clever that a choice driven RPG, that is all about choice and influence, was the vehicle for his commentary. It's quite remarkable to me that KOTOR 2 still manages to feel so faithful to Star Wars, but that's Avellone's extensive background reading showing. It's a truly nuanced commentary on one of the world's most popular fantasy epics.

[@lololol924]

Chris Avellone not being a fan of star wars was actually such a blessing in disguise for this game. The plot of KOTOR2 was such an in depth critique of all the absurd hypocrisies we see in the Star Wars universe. The Jedi being hypocritical cowards that cast out and judge their fallen students without reflecting on their own code/teachings being flawed. The Sith preaching freedom, but ultimately being doomed to infighting and betrayal, preventing any longevity to the power they seek. The force itself having a will of its own, and influencing events through sheer coincidence in the name of balance, while trillions die, and governments destabilize after consecutive wars in the process. No other piece of SW media has gotten close to the depth and reflection this game brings to the table. And its sad because the new canon is trying to be more nuanced (jedi and sith = both bad dur hur) but doesn't prescribe any meaningful solution or story in its place.

[@100StarWars]

I agree!

[@ALoveEternal]

IMO the new (Disney) StarWars content isn't anything close to subtle at all. The way I see it, they nuked the EU so they could (incompetently) copy-and-paste the best elements of the EU into the Sequels: The same way that JarJar Abrams shittily copied the OT when making TFA.

[@Camaraocompao]

@@ALoveEternal exactly! Almost everything they have brought is a deformed copy of the EU!

[@dtxspeaks268]

@@ALoveEternal the ST literally feels like a bunch of mediocre MCU movies with a OT star wars skin on them

[@philipeby5418]

@@dtxspeaks268 It's not even that good. It's just completely crap. Not even worth watching. Only good one at all was Rouge One

[@miqvPL]

Chris Avellone's dedication to Star Wars despite him not liking the subject beforehand really shows. I still have a strong suspicion that Drew Karpyshyn mistreated the Exile just because he was butthurt that Kotor 2 had leagues superior writing than Kotor 1

[@G59forlife.]

Isnt he the same guy who wrote the Darth Bane novels? And then I'm guessing hes the one who wrote swtor 😬 Fallen far..

[@miqvPL]

@@G59forlife. yes, that's the guy. Bane's trilogy is fun but not super complex. I recently visited his website and dude is very, very full of himself. He wrote swtor and the god awful Revan novel, there's simply no redemption afterwards.

[@G59forlife.]

@@miqvPL yikes...

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Shouldn't have left ME3 in favor of that Star Wars MMO that's now going nowhere.

[@aamirrazak3467]

really Avellone didn't like star wars? That's news to me. He did a fantastic job with the writing on KOTOR 2, the writing is a big part of why its my favorite game ever

[@dar-nakkallig]

STATEMENT: APATHY IS DEATH!!!!! Edit: Darth Sion is actually named “Sleeps with Vibro-blade”...

[@100StarWars]

My bad, lemme edit the video

[@lordnihilus3198]

So now we have sleeps with vibro-blade and dreadlocks under that Hood and her rocks Them good.

[@dar-nakkallig]

@@lordnihilus3198 no... We have “Sleeps with Vibro-blade” and “Hungry Hungry Sith-o” lol

[@spookymacchiato5503]

You mention the grey robes but not the line: "We call it pulling a Bindo."? That was one of my favorite parts

[@JubsOmega]

Kreia is hands down one of my favorite characters. She was written and voiced so well

[@mikeclarke5732]

Pun intended?

[@JubsOmega]

@@mikeclarke5732 The pun was unintended, but holy shit 😂

[@feralchangeling97]

Chris Avellone also saw the Holiday Special, I like to imagine he was gonna make Kreia the heroic Jedi until he saw that and believed that only a malevolent Force would allow that to exist and made Kreia the Kreia we all know and love.

[@100StarWars]

Lmao

[@cipherxi8513]

Sion and Surik sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G…

[@G59forlife.]

n O.

[@bryuhMan]

Man sion is a corpse lol.

[@curtiswashington8536]

@@bryuhMan I was gonna say, exile is giving kiss of death 🤣🤣🤣

[@100StarWars]

Hahahahaha

[@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516]

My Milo Surik grabs Sion and throws him into space…

[@ngreennz]

"Atris" is also an anagram of "Trias", a corrupted angel in Planescape: Torment, one of Obsidian's other famously good CRPGs. Likewise, a lot of Kriea's character was inspired by things that Avellone wanted to do with Ravel Puzzlewell, another Planescape character, but didn't have the opportunity to include.

[@100StarWars]

Oo, interesting! I've never played that game myself!

[@robertreyes8792]

I always found it too coincidental that Avellone wrote 2 gray-haired, cosmological anarchists. Both were absolutely amazing though

[@budakbaongsiah]

Planescape was made by Black Isle.

[@matthewgagnon9426]

@@budakbaongsiah Obsidian was basically the continuation of Black Isle after Black Isle was shuttered. Pretty much all of the leads went there, and especially all the writers.

[@budakbaongsiah]

@@matthewgagnon9426 Well, not anymore.

[@ComicalJaclyn]

If I were to guess, Kreia’s rate this video a “Influence gained; Kreia Influence lost; Kreia” Out of 10.

[@RogersRoger]

About the Marr ancestry: there is actually a mirlauka jedi named Marr in the bounty hunter storyline so one would assume its the descendant of our Visas.

[@100StarWars]

I get asked about the Darth Marr/Visas connection weekly it feels lmao

[@deadeye4047]

I was just about to mention this.

[@Kaziklu]

@@deadeye4047 Did you know the Jamie Kennedy, Kathleen Kennedy and John F. Kennedy are not related... they just have the same last name. Kevin Bacon and Francis Bacon aren't related. Nor is James Wolfe, Thomas Wolfe or Tom Wolfe. people can have the same name and not be directly related... I'm not sure why Star Wars fans think this isn't the case.

[@deadeye4047]

@@Kaziklu I know, same with Rey "Skywalker" and Luke Skywalker. Chill, I'm just having a bit of fun. Also, did you know that most Mirilukans were killed off by Darth Nihilus in KOTOR 2, making the chances that the Marr that the Bounty Hunter kills and actual descendant of Visas Marr all the more likely?

[@Kaziklu]

@@deadeye4047 I likely did at one point.. but I go outside sometimes. Also a 5 minutes check says it is actually LESS likely. Visas Marr was the only survivor of her Colony (one of many) meaning the odds that Adeline Marr is not related is significantly Decreased. Particularly as Jedi (as Visas Marr becomes) don't have offspring generally... and given that her primary companion after her colony was destroyed was a no corporal Sith. More so... As that race tends to be more likely to be a Jedi... and only one Colony was destroyed, and it has only been about 13 generations (likely less in reality) Of the Millions of her race only a little 8000 could be her direct ancestor at the time of Visas. Given the Visas likely had no children and that so little time has passed, it is actually unlikely they are related. I was able to come to this conclusion and still go outside...

[@jeremygillia7494]

The mining clothes you find at the beginning of the game, are the only clothes that bao-dur can wear and still use the force unimpeded. Since all armour's impede the use of the forces. Due to bao's arm he can't wear Jedi robes.

[@miqvPL]

I don't know how useless would be to mention that Kreia might be Arren Kae, an exiled jedi master, therefore being Brienna's mother. Even though there's no confirmation. White hair isn't an indicator due to Kreia's being white probably from age. But I found the idea amusing that the "betreyal" she whispers through force to Atris is Kreia's being somewhat proud/happy that Brienna broke the oath and betrayed Atris.

[@marcojoinha]

I always thought that Kreia was actually sad Brianna followed her footsteps and betrayed her order to be with a man just like she did. Probably does not rank high on the list of thinks she thinks were good decisions. I assumed she was saddened because her daughter had given up everything she was up to that point for simple desire for being with someone, and that would be horrendous weakness in Kreia's eyes.

[@miqvPL]

@@marcojoinha I see it very differently- Kreia calls her "servant of Atris" with visible disgust, seeing her as just a pawn in Atris games, a slave to ideology of jedi guardians. In my interpretation she sees Brianna betraying Atris teachings as becoming free, clashing the ideology she believed in with reality, shattering it and building a new one ( I think Kreia teaches something about making your own complete ideology during the wookie lesson, sadly the game script bugged during my last playthrough and I didn't get the dialogue with Kreia where I can discuss it). But You do have a very valid point with seeing falling in love as weakness, it's why Kreia admires that Revan left everything he valued and loved behind to fight in this new conflict he pursued. In some places attachments like that are only a weakness, although Luke Skywalker would probably still call them sources of his strength, something that can push him above and beyond

[@100StarWars]

This one is quite common, and I placed others facts above it and couldn't quite fit it in.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

It's still a huge shame that we didn't find out what really happened to Jolee, Mission, Zaalbar, and Juhani during and after the events of the game... would have loved hearing at least some implications of what happened to them. Still, another great vid, even if it's, again, not useless. Also, if you want more vids with this format, try using the Darth Bane trilogy, the Tales of the Jedi comics, the Knights of the Old Republic comics, the post-RotJ Legends materials from The Truce at Bakura to The Unifying Force, and the Legacy comics as templates.

[@100StarWars]

They're good suggestions! I have so many ideas for this kinda video. I'm not sure if I should go full steam ahead with making them or take a break lmao

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@100StarWars Thanks. Your call, not mine.

[@KFP_YT]

Wasn't it implied that if you play Light Side in K1, Jolee and Juhani rejoin the Jedi Order? Perhaps either Sion hunted them down and slaughtered them both one-by-one, or they were on Katarr when Nihilus ate the planet.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@KFP_YT Oh, hope they did a Bastila and survived.

[@KFP_YT]

@@michaelandreipalon359 it would also explain why Vandar and Dorak aren't in TSL tbh. I wish we had either of those two instead of Vrook, stories say he was far worse than Revan and Malak ever were.

[@GentlemanJacque]

Useless you say? I beg to differ good sir! This was pleasantly informative and enjoyable and I do look forward to more of these! 10:09 The annoyance in your voice, it's pure gold

[@100StarWars]

God that arguement in my comment sections damaged my braincells xD

[@CD-Freedom]

10:58 If Atris is the second biggest “beep” who’s the first? Vrook Lamar?

[@miqvPL]

probably, Vrook is worse than my ex gf, dude can blame Exile for EVERYTHING. "I lost in pazaak with that mandalorian mercenary. It's obviously done through the hatred that mandalorians feel for what Revan army did. This would never happen if the Exile didn't follow Revan to war" "my flowers don't want to grow even though I water them everyday. It must be due to the damage the Mandalorian war did to this planet. This would never happen if the Exile didn't follow Revan to war"

[@thomasboland540]

Pong Krell

[@lordnihilus3198]

Yup, Vrook is the ultimate Dickhead of star wars.

[@100StarWars]

There's only one Vrook.

[@EntertainmentDissection]

the first is that girl mechanic from the last trilogy of films. xD

[@Mephiles550]

Two for one Kotor 1 + 2 fact: Revan's cardboard cape Darth Revan's full set of robes (with mask and cape) are a super popular choice for players to wear in both games via mods. By default, the cape is not animated, is as stiff as cardboard and will show Revan's legs and arms clipping through it all the time when doing anything besides standing still. This is because regular NPC and player animations were not intended to be used on the Revan model, so no attempt was made to animate it, as the only time it is seen in game is in the revelation cutscene. All other scenes of Revan are pre-rendered animations not in the game's engine. It would've been extra unnecessary work, so it's somewhat understandable. In Kotor 2, you actually do see Revan in-game use the player/NPC animation set because you fight him as a vision in the tomb of Ludo Kressh. In cut content, you were also supposed to face the dark doppelganger of you that was briefly standing next to Revan before fading away. His model is exactly the same as in Kotor 1, meaning the cape is not animated and will look just as ridiculous as it did in the first game if modded into it. Obsidian probably didn't have time to animate the cape given the game's rushed nature, but I like to think it was more of a lazy easter egg that referenced how modding the player as Darth Revan in the first Kotor was one of the first things players did when they got the PC version of the game, only to be distraught when Revan's glorious cape has the properties of sandpaper. You can download mods to give Revan a properly animated cape for both Kotor and TSL. Both mods which have excellent quality animations which is impressive considering how difficult it is to mod animations and new models into the game.

[@guitarbass22]

In KotOR 2 restored content mod, you do fight the vision of yourself next to Revan in the tomb. It’s not a long fight, but it does happen.

[@emsator]

The hatred for atris fuels every playthrough i have in kotor 2

[@Spiritus_Invictus]

LOL me too. almost every game I'm like "alright, this is the playthrough, I can do this. am I sticking with the Lightside, no more switching to...*Atris makes her first entry and opens her mouth* Me: "ahh fuck it..."

[@aamirrazak3467]

same i despised her since the first time i played KOTOR 2, just like how i hated vrook since the first time i played kotor

[@100StarWars]

Hahahahaha, mood.

[@sarahluise3153]

The fact Chris Avellone hates Star Wars explains a few things

[@spadesandshades-pc9tx]

Explain curious 👀

[@spadesandshades-pc9tx]

@@Mauricekaip oh you mean that gotcha

[@PapitoQinn]

"Hatred is a gift."

[@countspider6488]

@@PapitoQinn ayyy my man

[@100StarWars]

Hated*

[@shinymk6562]

BONUS KOTOR 1 FACT: 5:24 "Full Darth Revan outfit" While it is possible to get Darth Revan's robes if you are on a dark side playthrough, it is impossible to get his mask and you have to edit your model to "Darth Revan" with the Kotor Save Editor from the Steam Workshop (I highly recommend it playing as Darth Revan throughout the whole game with his robes AND mask be it light side or dark is super cool. Also makes something funny happen during the "plot twist" scene.)

[@Kolonol1]

What happens differently during the plot twist part?

[@shinymk6562]

@@Kolonol1 ok *SPOILER* You don't have a face lol. He takes of his mask and nothing is there so you see this floating hood lol

[@Kolonol1]

@@shinymk6562 oh wow...creepy HAHAHAHA but funny still

[@michaelandreipalon359]

*shudders* Really hate faceless entities.

[@splashnskillz37]

Talks about Chris Avellone not liking TLJ Me who likes the Sequels but understand context: *_"Understandable, ... Have a great day"_*

[@100StarWars]

Hahahahah

[@reddeaddude2187]

TLJ was irredeemable trash that killed the franchise.

[@splashnskillz37]

@@reddeaddude2187 Fuck naw

[@inventorking9124]

I love the Last Jedi, but I can accept Avellone’s opinion. I agree it has too many subplots.

[@TruetoCaesar]

Exar Kun deserves more vids.

[@goodmind4940]

yes

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hmm, a "Useless Info" vid about the Tales of the Jedi comics might come in handy... even if we know less about it than even the KotOR games. Not many of us read comics, you know, and even if we can, they're a bit rare.

[@TruetoCaesar]

@@michaelandreipalon359 SHUT UP JEDI

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@TruetoCaesar Neither a Jedi nor a Sith.

[@TonyfromTO]

Should have been a prequel kotor game.

[@georgesuarez8325]

My friend like I said in your last video, this is not useless information at all!!!! Your videos are always fascinating, intriguing and insightful because you continue to expand my limited knowledge of Star Wars. I know you enjoy Unreal Cinema's fan remake of KOTOR just like I enjoy KOTOR Movie Saga and Darthycey's work but again I'm still hoping Disney and Lucasfilms will make Knights of the Old Republic into an animated series someday. Last week on July 27th at her movie premiere, Felicity Jones said "I never shut the door on Jyn Erso" it makes me so happy when she says that. Felicity talked about the possibility of returning to Star Wars so I'm still hopeful for that since Cassian Andor is getting his own show. Last thing my friend is I hope you don't mind me constantly bugging you to do a review at the end of season 1 for the Bad Batch series

[@georgesuarez8325]

My friend did you see today's episode of the Bad Batch? Kamino destroyed!!!! I couldn't believe it, it ends that era of Star Wars history. Please let me know what you thought it

[@Kyfas7]

There is so much greatness with this video I don't even know where to start! xD First of Chris Avellone is a boss! If he was not a SW fan before he started his homework, I bet he was after. I laughed in the part where you mention Meetra's hair color. xD These videos are very good! Keep them coming. ^^

[@100StarWars]

It's BROWN KYFAS. BROWWWWWWWWWN.

[@The-Black-Death]

First video of yours I've ever seen and I have to say you did well with this video! Learned quite a few things I didn't know before hand.

[@100StarWars]

I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@davido.1233]

Visas Marr is, in fact, an ancestor of a Miraluka Jedi you meet as a Bounty Hunter. Also, you can ignore Visas until after you've made the handmaiden a Jedi, because by then, you've completed the objective of forming a new Jedi order within the bounds of your ship, at least as far as she's concerned. After that, there is no massive jealousy on the handmaiden's part.

[@sparteen4760]

I need these to be longer

[@100StarWars]

LONGER? :(

[@sparteen4760]

@@100StarWars 20 minutes of 'useful' information.

[@Jonathan_McConnell]

These videos have been amazing, keep up with the good work.

[@100StarWars]

I'm glad youre enjoying them!

[@ingolf82]

Kelly Hu (Visas) has a fantastic voice. the voice actress for the Handmaiden also voices the female Bounty hunter player character in SWTOR. Not sure if you have that useless fact in the SWTOR video, I'm gonna watch that next.

[@wraith2939]

The holy trinity of Star Wars is George Lucas, Dave Filoni and Chris Avellone

[@comicsans1689]

Dave Filoni hasn't put out anything good without George Lucas. And Chris Avellone only made one significant Star Wars work, and that work didn't really influence the Star Wars lore outside of TLJ and a couple of nods in TOR. I think people like Timothy Zahn and Drew Karpyshyn deserve those spots more, especially Timothy Zahn.

[@MagpieR6]

umm

[@josejesushernandezbustillo9139]

​@@comicsans1689well, Drew Karpyshyn ruined Revan And Meetra Surik stories, so the one who really matters is Anthony Zhan and even his work is get ruined by LucasFilms :'(

[@Steventrafford]

I really did like the last vid. Saw this and Insta clicked😂😂😂

[@100StarWars]

I hope you enjoyed it, Steven!

[@Steventrafford]

@@100StarWars it was very good. I’m becoming a big fan of your content.

[@Malum3538]

My mate plays through KOTOR’s annually from start to finish. On Xbox, no mods, I think that’s a testament to how good the games are

[@layser2123]

Keep em comin!

[@100StarWars]

Will do, good sir.

[@ISimpForVisas2471]

10:55 as a person who is in love with her voice I FUCKING AGREE

[@100StarWars]

The most important fact in the video

[@dreadrath]

No matter how mundane, no information about KOTOR 2 is useless. lol

[@100StarWars]

True true

[@gingerkays7362]

I can’t help but grin when you talk about the cut content, since in just a week the game is coming to the Switch, and there will be DLC for the cut content

[@backtothefutureman1]

This is my favorite Star Wars game of all time.

[@100StarWars]

Amen.

[@backtothefutureman1]

@@100StarWars and I always use the canonical head mod when I play the game on PC. Also if you want the link, these are where I get the mod from: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=486299564

[@aamirrazak3467]

same it's currently my favorite game ever

[@backtothefutureman1]

@@aamirrazak3467 I don’t get why some people hate it.

[@aamirrazak3467]

@@backtothefutureman1 me either if anything obsidian did a great job considering all the trouble lucasfilm put them through with production. i loved the first one, but after playing KOTOR 2 with restored content mod, it became my favorite

[@jasonsterlingentertainment478]

I highly recommend reading the Knights of the old republic comic series. It follows a jedi named Zach in the years leading up to the Jedi civil war. If you've played K.O.T.O.R. 1 &2 there are a lot of characters you'll recognize being placed into the world.

[@100StarWars]

It's a fun comic!

[@MishraArtificer]

*Zayne Carrick. They even named the Republic Fleet space station in SWTOR after him. It's awesome.

[@Ghost-ql3hl]

His story would make a really good series but I doubt that they would make it well. All they would have to do is follow the comics but they would hate that

[@Kris2005isMine]

I think there's actually another Jolee item that might or might not have belonged to Jolee himself, but Bindo's Band DOES power up grey Jedi.

[@deiquimera9445]

That kind of work is very appreciated

[@mikeganzert6666]

zez-kai ell always reminded me of if hulk hogan somehow became a jedi

[@zackfolkestad8746]

I like both videos, and I think it’d be interesting to watch videos about useful things.

[@Mrfox2025]

Yea please do another one of these on kotor and 2

[@reven0699]

I loved that last bit about the exile, get em

[@1stSlug]

I'd love to see a video on Celeste Morne. Honestly, I love to see more Jedi/Sith character doco's in general.

[@emanueltwr]

Of course we adore it, its KOTOR BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@100StarWars]

[@marklee1194]

Correct me if I am wrong, the name "Darth Nihilus" appears in one of the journal logs, but was never explicitly spoken by any character in the game. In KOTOR II, he was simply referred to as "Visas' Master", "Master of the Ship (Ravager)", and so on. If true, this kind of highlights the fact that Darth Nihilus is merely a Dark Side reflection of Meetra Surik (Jedi Exile) and what she could have become had she turned to the Dark Side.

[@NightMare-iu9fn]

OMG this was so great, I loved this so much. Please make more videos like this.

[@100StarWars]

You're in luck as one just released ;)

[@NightMare-iu9fn]

@@100StarWars Just watched your newest video, another great one. I have been a fan of your channel for awhile and always enjoy your take on Star Wars. Keep up the good work!

[@zeeboie6627]

Give this man a thumbs up he did his research

[@100StarWars]

[@desel8737]

a few enemies like the two "bosses" on onderon level with you. i found that out the hard way when i used an exploid with the dead jedi (3:13) to get my little jedi to max level (on xbox). it took a while to defeat the general...

[@Ray-yv7kn]

When I first saw Nihilus' mask I thought it was very familiar. I swear I've seen it somewhere but I can't remember where. Edit: Visas Marr is a Miraluka, Darth Marr is a human. How can they be related?

[@100StarWars]

Related?

[@Ray-yv7kn]

@@100StarWars The people that said Visas is Marr's great-great grandma.

[@CrimsonUltrafox]

KOTOR 2 with another year or two of development would have blown everything about KOTOR 1 out of the water. Its writing already does. We always hear from Sith about how Jedi are bad and from Jedi about how Sith are bad...but it wasn't until I played this game that I truly understood how messed up both groups are. KOTOR 2 seems a bit grimdark and it has real consequences shown from the first game. KOTOR 1 was an amazing game and I love it...but it wasn't that much different than a typical hero's journey space opera (minus the twist). I never felt dread or shame for what I did in the first game. In the second game, just helping some refugees on Nar Shaddaa causes more harm.

[@MisterAwestasia]

More please!

[@100StarWars]

More you shall have!

[@pauljohnson2911]

I mean technically you can’t say that anything in Kotor is canon because it was decanonized by the Disney Corporation. Also what made certain things like the exile being female or her hair being brown “canon” was Drew Karpyshyn’s “Revan” novel. The Revan novel is pretty contentious among fans of Kotor 2 because it was written solely to fill some of the gap between Kotor 2 and Swtor, yet it was very clear that Karpyshyn knew very little about Kotor 2 and the novel suffers for it.

[@Dave-mf6tj]

Technically you can but you cannot say it is Disney's canon Canon just means that it is the original story or how the story is supposed to be, for example: canonically Revan is a man and marries Bastila Sure you can choose a female player if you wish, but that's not the canon story (not Disney's canon, just the canon story)

[@pauljohnson2911]

@@Dave-mf6tj No… you can’t… There is currently one canon in Star Wars and that is Disney’s Canon. Personally I hate that, but that doesn’t change it. But let’s just say for the sake of discussion that you’re right and it is how “the original story is meant to be.” KOTOR is an RPG. Many of the things about the game such as character appearance/choices are up to the player. When KOTOR was released there was no official “How it’s meant to be.” That’s the whole point of an RPG. The “canon” that this guy is talking about comes from a book that was written 8 years after KOTOR was released.

[@Dave-mf6tj]

@@pauljohnson2911 that's because you are not understanding the meaning of the word "canon" There is a canon story, which you can read in the novel, or are you saying that the novel is also an RPG book? Because I have read the novel and Revan married Bastila and they have a son, Bastila felt a bit of jealousy because of Meetra and so forth, there is canon within legends Another example of canon within legends is Zannah, she is a female sith trained by Bane, she is not Disney canon but he character being a woman is the correct canon story

[@Dave-mf6tj]

@@pauljohnson2911 and about your point regarding the novel, a character or a story does not stop being canon because more lore was available years later It's like saying that all the continuity errors found between the prequels and the OT make the prequels non-canon simply because some of those details didn't make sense or were changed decades lates to fill in gaps and plot holes

[@Dave-mf6tj]

@@pauljohnson2911 and for the sake of argument let's say that Revan is not a man, or woman or anything, what about Bastila, is she not a woman? Well, she is, and that is the canon story in both the game and the book, yet your initial statement was that we can't say any of the things in KOTOR are canon, and my response to you was that canon can mean different things depending on the context

[@Kyler-o1h]

love these, please do more!

[@100StarWars]

Will do!

[@willek1335]

Useless fact: 1:50 Jolee's robe is the only thing restricted to neutrality in KOTOR 2. Every other restriction forces you to take a for/against stance: items, force powers, the dark cave, alignment, influence, and whether to give money to the beggar or not. The game really really don't like Apathy, except if it's clouded in a cunning way (e.g. the neutral shrouded dark side of Kreia or if you pretend to be good only to abuse naive people such as Chodo Habat or Dantoine) to some other goal.

[@Otinashi]

and here i am wanting to play through kotor 2 again...it's been a month since i played it last

[@lifelessperson1993]

The Disciple’s name is mentioned in the female playthrough. When he contacts the republic/ Carth he ends it with ‘Mical out’.

[@cofiecoffcoff4287]

I know this is an old video but at 8:57 (9:04 on the video) the sith temple on Dxun and the ritual... is this... what is happening in the new game Star Wars Eclipse? I mean the little pool is there.... i might be speaking nonsense but... it would be fun it it was tbh. just a thought.

[@rambofan334]

This game deserves a remaster with all the cut content added.

[@RyanTheDark]

Knowledge is power.

[@100StarWars]

Power is knowledge.

[@bacd-nn2lg]

If only Disney would put the same dedication as Chris Avellone when he was writing SW KOTOR 2, maybe then we would not get those a disaster which is a Sequel Trilogy.

[@LIANPYR]

KOTOR 2 is my favorite, just in front of the first one.

[@aamirrazak3467]

same

[@100StarWars]

Mine too!

[@VanerShan]

Kotor is love, Kotor is life.

[@100StarWars]

Amen to that.

[@imjulian5393]

first person thing with kreia and visas is amazing

[@gazof-the-north1980]

I always thought Michael Duncan (The Green Mile) with green body paint like incredible Hulk would have been a GREAT Darth Sion

[@sneakykingcon]

Just when I thought I watched every possible bit of Info on kotor then KZbin shows me this. Got to love algorithms 🤣

[@Jorvaskrr]

Chris Avellone in my opinion, to date, might be the only writer who sucessfully attempted to elevate Star Wars above the average space opera good vs. evil adventure scenarios ubiquitous in all other Star Wars media. It made attempts to explore the nature of The Force, to make it more than a plot device that allows the good guys to save the day. But, alas, like many other ambitious writers, his developments were cut short by corporate greed. I hope I don't sound too pompous, but I feel like this is the only piece of star wars media that, in terms of story and world building, rises above the rest in the franchise and shows a more mature side while still maintaining a Teen ESRB rating. By "mature" I don't mean gratuitous swearing and sex scenes between siblings but things that went completely over my head when I played it as a teenager.

[@100StarWars]

You're absolutely right.

[@Jorvaskrr]

@@100StarWars well, that's a little depressing.

[@aniruddhbhatkal1834]

how many times is enough times for the Echani poetry and the angelic pickup line? Also, I don't remember the Handmaiden ever giving me a game-long silent treatment, did i play a bugged version of the game?

[@ZYXPQI]

I have really enjoyed the content recently. Any chance you will do character profiles for obscure sith?

[@100StarWars]

Which Obscure Sith?

[@dtdimeflicks6708]

The Darth Nihilus action figure has a removable hood and he has a ponytail sculpted in the back of his head.

[@brydon5721]

Why was Bao-Dur not a romance-able character? He was a far hotter slab of manflesh than anyone else in the Exile's party.

[@100StarWars]

*far hotter slab of manflesh* PLEASE LMAO

[@MishraArtificer]

Because, no matter how you felt, he'd still only ever see you as "General".

[@eyeam19able]

Jc this amazing. Bring on the 🧂 Brunettes > blonde surik

[@100StarWars]

But... Blonde Meetra :((

[@KFP_YT]

@@100StarWars Bald Meetra >>>

[@starlighter93]

9:17 He also the only Jedi master in the game who doesn't run around in his Jedi robes. Which also shows him distancing himself from the Order.

[@100StarWars]

That's very true!

[@jcrebel18]

I agree with you on Atris, basically because she scolds you regardless of what you say.

[@100StarWars]

She's such an *******

[@jcrebel18]

@@100StarWars that's an understatement.

[@grandmasterchris9666]

What would you say is the ideal order for planets to fly to after meeting Atris on Telos?

[@100StarWars]

Nar Shaddaa, Dxun/Onderon, Dantooine and Korriban is the logical order to my knowledge!

[@xurkthan8497]

What about the Kreia/Arren Kae connection? Is that fake news like Meetra's blonde hair, or is that still confirmed cut content?

[@OrangeBananaMonster]

Can you do a video about each class storyline in SWTOR? Ooh, what about a video on SWG?

[@100StarWars]

SWTOR from a gameplay perspective isn't really my cup of tea. Check out Swtorista, or Aviriia for that!

[@lifelessperson1993]

My head canon says Meetra is a ginger :D

[@100StarWars]

GINGER? That's a new one xD

[@ryuhayabusa4099]

Headcanons are great

[@starkillerab1582]

You should make a lore video on Mical (Aka the Disciple) pretty please 🥺 🙏

[@theprodigalknight7156]

10:29 you tell em luke!

[@100StarWars]

IT'S BROWN JAMES.

[@Swinhoegaming]

I see you're a man of culture and using the canon exile head mod

[@100StarWars]

Of course.

[@alexandrelaborie6207]

It would be Nice to have à battle front 1 or force unleashed version

[@CZKing]

Now make me feel like I felt when I felt these 2 games for the first time....cmon, waiting!

[@N0RB1TCH]

I had a glitch once where I could equip Kreia with a double bladed lightsaber even after her hand is taken

[@jameswatson3353]

More, MORE, MORE!

[@100StarWars]

Okay, OKAY, OKAY!

[@shadownor]

thanks

[@100StarWars]

You're very welcome!

[@61XY]

I found this information quite useful.

[@100StarWars]

Only *quite?* :(

[@61XY]

@@100StarWars *Quite* indeed 🧐

[@Mystery_Box-]

i love those , please more

[@100StarWars]

Paitence, Padawan.

[@Mystery_Box-]

@@100StarWars dew it

[@thestanleys3657]

Were the name anagrams coincidental or intended?

[@100StarWars]

Probably intended.

[@Myskully14]

Where do you get that Metras hair is brown? I believed it was blood as well.

[@zezous2608]

It was officially stated in the REVAN novel that it was brown

[@100StarWars]

The Revan novel.

[@Myskully14]

I'm going to have to get back with you. I think that Meetra Surik is portrayed in Star Wars: the Old Republic but I can't seem to find out for sure on Google (it's usually pretty hard to Google things about SWTOR). I'll have to play the Shadow of Revan expansion again and see if she is portrayed.

[@zezous2608]

@@Myskully14 it was the maelstrom prison flashpoint. She appears as a really glowy force ghost and you can’t really make out many details of her

[@Myskully14]

​@@100StarWars so Zezous down there made it easy for me. The thing is, I was pretty damn sure that her hair was blonde, and it is stated as so in many different wiki pages. However, to my knowledge, she had no official hair color from KOTOR 2. The book you mention is not canon, however, but I would accept that as technically neither is KOTOR 2, where Meetra came from anyway. The argument I was going to make was based off her depiction in Star Wars: The Old Republic because SWTOR IS canon. Now, I know what you and everyone else are going to say, but yes, it IS canon. The thing is, Disney didn't just say "only the movies are canon." They said "only the movies and things still in production as of our acquisition are canon (Because they now have say in it's content). This is what makes Clone Was canon, because it was still in active production... and this is what makes SWTOR canon, because it was and in fact still is in active production. Now, they may not have had a representative conduct an interview and specifically say that SWTOR is canon, but it falls under the umbrella they put up. Again, I know what you're going to say. That doesn't matter, it was an oversight, etc. Well, maybe that's true, but it was never officially added to legends either. And I put forth that it was NOT coincidence... Disney specifically did not specifically mention SWTOR so that it would allow them to make the choice later. Old Republic lore is very popular, and especially now with Revan being mentioned elsewhere I can say that they definitely intend to make Old Republic content and that's why they did not slash SWTOR as non-canon. Now, all that's useless info. Zezous was correct in where Meetra was portrayed. If you go there and expect her hair to be blonde... it will look blonde. However, she is a ghost and the truth is her hair is white. I tried to look at it as objectively as I can and I believe that her model in game absolutely could have come from brown hair. Thus, her depiction in SWTOR does not definitely say what her hair color is. If the book Revan is the only other depiction than we have to accept that as correct. However, I will leave one more cautionary bit here. If you look up on the wiki and other sources, it will say something along the lines of this: "Those stories [referring to Star Wars Novels] are just that, stories. They are told as if any individual historian in the Star Wars universe is telling you a story. Not all authors have the capability of cross checking every detail of their story for accuracy with all other media, so it's assumed that inaccuracies will happen just as they would when someone tells you a story." And I put forth that the hair color of Meetra Surik absolutely falls into an easy to mistake category of inaccuracies. For now, it's all we have, but believe (I have a New Hope... sorry ill see myself out shortly) that we will see her again soon in some media produced by Disney, and her hair color may be brown, blonde, or something completely different.

[@kalelson8861]

Darth Nihilus didn't become trapped in his armor upon being defeated by the exile. He had infused his essence into it and the mask long before then.

[@TonyfromTO]

I want that original patch!

[@jakefoley9539]

Another fact: Sion's appearance was inspired by Tessai from Ninja Scroll.

[@barretstone6923]

Keep it up get them likes and views

[@alexandrelaborie6207]

Also what is your point of view on the Legacy comics ?

[@100StarWars]

Sadly I've not read them

[@alexandrelaborie6207]

@@100StarWars OK, I was introduced to Star wars Legends this way, I recomend it to you

[@Detac3]

Why is the exiles hair white in swtor mmo?