10inch tires for xiaomi m365 worth it?

[@GrigorSimeonov]

KERS= Kinetic Energy Recovery System. Not critical emergency regenerative speed.

[@VRMinde]

Grigor Simeonov you are totally right my friend, thanks!

[@fcojustel]

But it's important to assist the rear wheel break. Bad idea to deactivate it.completely

[@VRMinde]

@@fcojustel hello mate, it is not deactivated completely by this setting. It is only not active when you "roll". It activates still if you press on brakes :)

[@goclunker]

Francisco Justel why are you even here? Just keep your government nanny scooter factory.

[@davidstockwell5447]

It's amlost better described in the latter. It uses battery energy to brake... Tip : your rear brake should stop you within 1000cm on a flat surface: no e brake because it requires battery. Love it, does a great job. But unless you can bail to the concrete. It's delayed and an emergency thing imo

[@supernova1976]

You have put a lot of effort in the making of this video, well done , excellent content.

[@VRMinde]

supernova1976 thanks mate, I have indeed put some work, but I also enjoyed the process a lot. As I do not earn anything, it is kind of one of my hobbies. I have also watched it just now during my connecting flight to Amsterdam, and I can see that I have made a few mess ups :D oh well :D

[@Gigarez]

I just spent a whole day trying to replace the 8.5" tire. Gave up after countless of swearing and went for the 10" tire instead. So much easier to handle!

[@VRMinde]

MintJustin 😂 sorry for laughing 😂 they are real pain. The first one took me more than 4 hours as well :D 10” are much easier to mount

[@schlooonginator1227]

Bike tip for tubes. Wipe baby powder all over tube when installing. This drastically decreases the tire/tube friction.

[@VRMinde]

That is a good idea, will do it next time :)

[@ptescreen18]

Yes this works so much better , highly recommend

[@marsch2064]

Perfect review. Calm voice, no nerving music, clear and fair results an a very good conclusion over the tests. I thought about change the wheels to 10" for a higher speed and smoother driving. I think now (also in case of battery-drain), that I will stay on 8.5. Because of the faster acceleration at 8.5, the higher speed at 10 is eaten. I'd like a more comfortable ride, but I live in high-regulating-Germany. The operating licence will get lost on 10" (also the insurance), and that means, the police will f.. me up. Your video (mostly your conclusions) let me stay at 8.5". Thank you very much Greetings from Bielefeld (espacially to Roskilde-Festival 😎🤟)

[@VRMinde]

Hi man, thanks a lot, super kind of you. I am riding 8.5 on a stock motor/battery and enjoying them to be honest, that acceleration is lovely! If I go larger motors/more power, probably, the 10” is a bit better with “more meat”. Ride safe!

[@DaveButtonz]

Finally some proper thoughts about this :) thanks man.

[@VRMinde]

Dave Anuk thank you mate! I just tried to reflect how I feel about these tires :)

[@nikleduc2148]

Love these videos and would love to see more in depth modding videos on these scooters!

[@VRMinde]

Nik Leduc thank you mate. I would love to do heavier modding and I will make videos if I do anything like that :) the problem is that it costs and takes away a lot of time and provides limited value 🙄 in case I do have time - I rather work on my ebike as the scooters bring me everywhere without issues already :) and I do have some other excuses: I am on a full time job, inline skating for 3-4 times a week, mountainbiking on an ebike a bit, trying to keep 2 youtube channels running and to spend great time with my family :) I do not have a dedicated workshop, my mods happen at the trash bin outside or in the kitchen if it is raining (because the bedroom is turned into a small studio). So it is a bit hard to do heavier modding :) Any specific mod area you are interested in? Comfort? Range? Speed?

[@nikleduc2148]

VRMinde don’t worry about it, your you’re own boss and don’t have to listen to every stranger on the Internet Either way you got a new subscriber

[@VRMinde]

@@nikleduc2148 Thanks man, I am not worrying at all. I appreciate every subscriber. I love what I do. Therefore, I try to reply to all the non-insulting comments :)

[@Access.Denied]

Very informative. This helped me decide not to upgrade to 10 inch tires. Thank you.

[@VRMinde]

Glad it helped you mate!

[@MrAwesome1083]

i changed it today and i dont regret it smoother and faster 😁 tommoro i do the back

[@paulotarso2928]

So I have a pro 2, and I imagine that the starting torque as well as the final speed is stronger than the m365, so what I can say is that if I bought a brand new pro2 scooter today, I would change it right away for a 10'' tire and I would sell the new originals, due to the fact that when these originals get punctured it is very difficult to change them, even some bike shops refuse to change them because of how hard it is to put these tires on and off, that's why a lot of people end up putting solid tires, but the 10'' tires are practically put on almost with your hands as they fit in loosely, and the scooter is super soft, it's really worth it.

[@VRMinde]

That makes complete sense :)

[@pajarinennn5988]

KERS is also used in race cars and it is kinetic energy recovery system

[@VRMinde]

Pajarinennn yes, my bad :)

[@Вася-ш3щ]

It depends of pressure in tires. If you put enough pressure (4-4.5 bar) in 10 inch tires, you'll get the same energy spending or even less, than on 8.5 tires. I checked it.

[@VRMinde]

Вася Штырьков how did it feel riding it? Does the scooter become like with solid tires?

[@Вася-ш3щ]

VRMinde I upgraded to 10 inches my kugoo m2 pro. It has the same wheels as xiaomi m365 (all sizes and tires the same). I can only compare It with solid tires of kugoo s3. Inflatable tires even with 4.5 bar ofcourse better. I placed 10" tires to improve rolling => speed and energy spending, and comfort (standard 8 1/2 tires i used with 4.5 bar too). But i'm using 10" tires with nominal pressure 3.1 Bar. I dont know is it ok to inflate your nominal 2.5 bar tires to 4.5bar. It needs testing.

[@Вася-ш3щ]

Also it depends of your weight. If your weight is about 70kg, than 4.5 Bar is ok. If your weight is 100kg, you need more pressure to have good rolling.

[@VRMinde]

@@Вася-ш3щ I am kind of ok with the rolling on 2.5 bars :)) I prefer a bit comfort

[@Вася-ш3щ]

VRMinde No doubt, you do. )) I prefer max perfomance. Nevertheless, i have 200% comfort, compared to m635 on 10 inch tires with 2.5 bar. No, 300% comfort or even 500%. )) Cuz i riding on on ends of feet, closer to the toes. One leg in front, other back. My heels are always in the air and calf muscle works as perfect natural suspension, which saves my spine absolutely still. You can try, and you'll be amazed how still your body while riding.

[@be0FRee1]

Super video, ačiū už tavo laiką ir pastangas labai naudinga informacija visiems kas nori gauti daugiau iš savo paspirtuku, visada rekomenduoju tavo kanalą visiems savo draugams kas turi Xiaomi. Ačiū. Taip ir toliau 💪

[@VRMinde]

Aciu, Arnai uz palaikyma! Dziaugiuosi, kad patinka kanalas :)

[@mirceacoliu5590]

I don’t know exactly how the software and hardware of Xiaomi scooter works, but I have 2 assumptions: 1. The 25 km/h limit is not a physical limit of the motor or of the battery, it is just a limit imposed by the software in compliance with the EU rules. So the scooter probably can sustain on a flat terrain a speed of 30 km/h, without damaging the motor or the battery. 2. The controller most likely measures not the actual speed of the bike, but the speed of rotation of the motor wheel. And it multiplies its rpm with the known circumference of the wheel (8.5”x3.14). So, if you change the 8.5” tire with a 10” tire, you can trick the controller to think that the scooter is going 25 km/h, when it is actually going (10/8.5)x25, i.e. 29,4 km/h. So it should be possible this way to increase the maximum speed, without changing the settings of the controller and potentially without damaging the motor or the battery. Can you confirm of deny this hipothesis?

[@VRMinde]

Yes you are correct. This is how it works with stock firmware. But, there are a few “buts”. 1. It is easier to change the firmware and get more speed than replacing the tires. 2. This logic works only up to some degree/speed. From let’s say 30km/h you can put any size whees the scooter won’t go faster as the next bottleneck is the battery pack.

[@mirceacoliu5590]

@@VRMinde Thank you. Yes, it should be easier to change the firmware, BUT: 1. I have poor IT skills, so for me it would be easier (though costlier) to just buy a 10” tire and ask a mechanic to make the change; 2. From what I read so far, changing the firmware messes up the regen and I LOVE to use the stock software regen setup to save brake pads and to control the speed when going downhill. Of course, if I could find a way to change the firmware without side effects, it would be great. By the way, some comments suggest that you can change in the software the settings of the wheel size, but I do not understand where and how. Another way to trick the controller would be to keep the physical size 8.5”, but to put in the software a size of 7”. This may again allow for a speed of 30 km/h, hopefully without messing with the regen, the cruise control or other issues.

[@VRMinde]

@@mirceacoliu5590 there are plenty videos on firmware update, but if you can read - you can understand each setting yourself. For example try looking at m365.botox.bz

[@retselification]

Hi planning to change size 10 tire with stock firmware soo as i read u gain speed with size 10 tires?

[@VRMinde]

@@retselification with the stock firmware you will have more max speed, your acceleration will reduce though

[@silva4428]

The reduction in battery can be explained due the air resistance. After around 20~km/h, air resistance increases a lot the power consumption by each km/h increase

[@VRMinde]

might be mate

[@ALINUED]

great content. thank you. i've been searching this topic since 2 month. there was no any clear idea about this 2 tyre versus each other. now everything is clear. im commuting from my home to work everyday and first i thought it's a great idea to upgrade, then i realized that i need battery life since its hacked and max speed is 35-36. and i have a uphill's in my way. with 10 i guess i would come home with 10km/h because of charge :))

[@VRMinde]

A.Z you will not win any speed if you firmware is already pushing the motor to the limit. Ok only maybe when you go downhill :) And you will sacrifice some battery life. When battery falls below 50% on 10” wheel it feels even more slugish than on 8.5”, you right :) Glad that you enjoyed the vid :)

[@ALINUED]

@@VRMinde i guess it's time to upgrade scooter to something more powerful than m365 pro :) maybe zero 10 or something like that.

[@VRMinde]

A.Z what about electric bike? Or is it too big? :)

[@ALINUED]

@@VRMinde it's fine bigwise but price wise it's gonna be so expensive for me i guess :)

[@VRMinde]

A.Z yeah.. price adds up and battery is a “cherry on top” :))

[@pabeldark]

I live in Mexico and strets are terrible, the roads are not plain. I am thinking to get 10 inches tires to MI 3 just to make it safer to drive on bumps and holes. Your review help me to see the drive improvements.

[@VRMinde]

On bad roads I would rather have 10" tires - no questions asked! Good luck mate!

[@xzyter413]

you know you have to change the dashboard software to 10 inch right?

[@VRMinde]

I know that I CAN change it, I do not have to :)

[@mirceacoliu5590]

@@VRMinde What is the "dashboard software"? Is it the stock software that came from factory? How can I change the settings of the wheel size?

[@VRMinde]

@@mirceacoliu5590 it is not a dashboard software. It is ECU firmware. You can customize it. Entering the “correct” wheel size will only show more accurate speed measurement on the dashboard, nothing more

[@spotts9430]

What effect will 10 inch tyres have on slope climbing capacity ? I imagine that the higher gearing will degrade climbing performance ....?

[@VRMinde]

you are correct, it will suffer a bit. The difference is not that great though...

[@jarisipilainen3875]

7:42 actually it would read same on scooter. gps should say bit more "IF scooter can push you that fast"

[@ha3xun229]

What if I install 10 inch solid tires it will run insanely smooth?

[@VRMinde]

Nuxe J no mate, solid tires are nowhere near as smooth as inflatable ones

[@sidchen5928]

I just upgraded to 10” on my pro. I can confirm acceleration is definitely slower. It appeared the motor hub has to work harder to reach/maintain top speed and resulted in higher temperature. It also struggled to climb uphill whereas the reg 8.5” tire didn’t had any trouble. Btw, could you used your old inner tubes for 10” tires?

[@VRMinde]

Sid Chen thanks for sharing mate. Yup. It is indeed slower on accel. I have not tried the 8.5 tubes, but I saw people claiming they should work 🙄

[@brunnofernandes6916]

Hi mate. I just read your comment. I bought 10' tires for my Xiaomi Pro but now Im wondering if it's worth. U said about slower acceleration. Is it real? I got a couple of hills on my way to work so I got a bit worried now. My weight is 66kg.

[@VRMinde]

@@brunnofernandes6916 If you think you have a rough surface/rough ride - potholes, curbs, poor quality tiles or cobblestone on your commute - 10" tires will definitely soften it a bit. Go for them. But if your ride is smooth, good quality bike paths or roads - there is no point on installing them, I think.

[@Weisior]

@@brunnofernandes6916 So? How did it go?

[@Chefchen21]

He use 2 Scooter so the Controller have diffrent Versoin of BMS for Exempel.check by Minute 10,50 the BMS Version is diffrent so he use 2 Scooter but diffrent Parameter

[@MustafaJabbar1]

Can I know which camera you used in this video?

[@VRMinde]

I don’t remember mate. I use 4-5 different cameras when filming 🙄

[@MustafaJabbar1]

@@VRMinde I mean chest camera

[@VRMinde]

@@MustafaJabbar1 it is like a 2 year old video, so most likely I used gopro hero 7 or insta360 one R

[@JJbrosis]

Thank you so much man for your video 😍😍

[@VRMinde]

اهْدِنَا الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيمَ thank you for your support !

[@typhoon777]

Thanks for the impartial review!

[@VRMinde]

typhoon777 thank you mate!

[@kranu222]

How much psi did you run on your 10 inch tires? If you remember, did you run like 36psi as it says on the tire?

[@VRMinde]

I normally run what is written on the tire as max value, unless I forget to inflate them :D

[@cortexedge]

Hey, what app were you using at 10:53? I'd like to see the health of the battery in my scooter.

[@VRMinde]

cortexedge it is called M365 Plus on apple app store. Logo is white scooter in a black background

[@cortexedge]

@@VRMinde I have an android phone... Thanks!

[@bobboo1319]

cortexedge M365 tools on play store.

[@jayhennessy8317]

Nice video mate well done I will be saving for info again I will be subscribing also 🤙🏻🇮🇪

[@VRMinde]

Thanks mate, very kind of you!

[@zert1913]

Ciao bro

[@davebruton5731]

Drag racers on a budget , would swap to smaller tires at the track . This helped achieve faster acceleration . By doing this you might lose top speed . They'd swap back to the tires they arrived with , to save fuel on the way back home . Same rules apply here .

[@VRMinde]

True!

[@aphilzitrone]

Does it feel alot better/more comfortable with 10 inch? Bumps almost kill me with my XIaomi 365

[@VRMinde]

PhilBo it really helps on bumps! It is not like you won’t feel them anymore, but ride is more comfortable for sure. Acceleration gets slower though

[@jamiejoker118]

I get 32km/h 20mph on 8.5" do they do 10" solid conversion

[@VRMinde]

Probably there are some, I do not like solid tires so did not look into them

[@indianajohn5669]

You are amazing and the most patient man I've ever seen. I tried to unmount the 8.5" tire once to fix the tube and it took me 3 hours for the whole process. So, how much tire slime do you put?

[@VRMinde]

Indiana John you get better as the time runs lol :) Thanks mate. I can’t remember now how much do I put it in? I try to estimate based on the examples of the tire sizes on the bottle. It is weird substance. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes it seals the tire for a week and then you find it flat in the morning. Inflate it - and it stays for more than a month 🙄

[@MrAwesome1083]

amigo i put the front and back in 10 inch tires but when i speed up its 28km it stays at 28 but it feels like iam getting faster and also what can you do when i start to take off the steer start to shake what can i do to prefent this shaking its not that it shaks so hard but when i put my hands off the steer it trembles

[@VRMinde]

You need to change the wheel size in the custom firmware if you want to see the correct speed. I do not know why your wheel is shaking, maybe the tire is not mounted evenly?

[@MrAwesome1083]

@@VRMinde i did check it the 2 time and is stays the same in other video i see the same problem so maybe its better to stay at 8.5 inch if the 10 inch tires where in diameter 0.5 smaller in the inside then the problem would be not there i am gonna search for it if i dont find it i return to the 8.5 because i dont like the shaking 😂

[@joseernestomaceda18]

Hi...what if i only want the back tire of 10inch?whats your opinion?

[@VRMinde]

Jose Ernesto Maceda hi, If you want something, no one can stop you :) What is the reason? It might be a bit weird angle for riding?

[@CharlieEdward25]

🤣

[@breezeli6233]

The height of leg still needs to be adapted. Also, you will tilt forward and this is much dangerous when you suddenly brake. The tail light power line bumps to the tire more frequently and is easier to be worn out.

[@CharlieEdward25]

What app do you use in the video im looking for a good one

[@VRMinde]

Charlie Shakur hi, “gps speedometer and odometer” by cool nicks :)

[@CharlieEdward25]

@@VRMinde thanks bro

[@CharlieEdward25]

@@VRMinde just had to stlink my m365 the other day to get back to 1.3.4 lol was fun

[@coildestura]

thank you. great inputs. 8.5 is the bet for me

[@VRMinde]

Coil Destura thanks bro, enjoy the ride!

[@fcojustel]

Hello! Why do you put the cruising speed in 1 second? to beep constantly ?. I think the ideal is 20 seconds.

[@VRMinde]

I like it to lock on as fast as possible. I think it is a personal choice

[@goclunker]

Francisco Justel you wanna hold the throttle for 20 seconds? Lol why?

[@harvyhun]

@@goclunker I dont understand that either, I set mine to 2 seconds AND switched off the beeping when it turns on. Although after a few rides I turned cruise control off, on my commute I dont have a lot of long terrain to speed up, and I kinda like how the scooter starts slowing down when I release the throttle.

[@goclunker]

Harvy666 you can still tab the throttle and cruise disables. I love cruise. I also have thermal throttle

[@silentthunder890]

Go Clunker thermal throttle?

[@kiaku]

What do you recommend for tire pressure? Just installed 10 inch tires and was wondering if you have done experiments with different tire pressures.

[@VRMinde]

Nah not really, I just inflate what's written on the tire, it works for me :)

[@kiaku]

Just inflated to 35 psi as instructed and they feel fantastic, just so much better than the original ones.

[@VRMinde]

@@kiaku They tend to leak the air slowly, I keep forgetting myself to reinflate every several months :) Anyways, happy you like them mate

[@kiaku]

@@VRMinde we'll see about that, used some 'magic milk' in the tubes to fix small leaks. Also disassembled the valves and used silicone grease on the seals.

[@barenekid9695]

Just like the 8.5's Need to Run ~50 Psi.... IF... you want the full performance. Run your 8.5's at 35psi and notice just how slow and shitty they are at that pressure. No different with the 10's they need pressure ..although WD tires are Poor Quality and you really should not buy or use those.

[@fabiostanila6448]

Can I use the same air chamber that the M365_Lite comes with, but with 10" tires?

[@VRMinde]

Should be fine bro!

[@ralf.patric]

Seeing you ride in Billund was interesting. Quick question: any advice on where I could find a good tube for a m365 pro rear wheel? Do you recommend something specific? Got my first puncture, and I wanna get the scooter back up and running asap. Skål from Copenhagen!

[@VRMinde]

Blaga Ralf hi mate, thanks! I think get ant tube you can get fastest :) I tried different ones and I did not notice any difference. You can even use the bicycle tube repair kit if you need to wait for the tube to arrive and you want to ride your scooter now. They work. Consider getting cst tires with the white line in the middle (from aliexpress), I think they are now generation 4 or even 5 already, and people say they are way more puncture-resistant. I have just received a set and will be mounting them to try :)

[@nem81]

@@VRMinde Have you tried the Nylon tires from ali? Supposedly they are more puncture resistant than the "normal" ones. I bought a pair when i ordered my M365 Pro, but i havent switched to them yet as i want to wear out the original first.

[@VRMinde]

nem81 no, I have the kugoo s1 with solid tires. They are terribly hard. I appreciate the comfort from inflatable ones

[@nem81]

@@VRMinde : I didnt say, but they are inflatable 10". "Amalibay" is the brand/seller.

[@VRMinde]

nem81 ah those, I think my 10” are exactly the same. Honestly I got one puncture just after installing them and since then I did not hava another pne for about 4-6 months I think 🙄

[@MasterChiefTheChef]

Thanks, you saved me some money and hassle.

[@VRMinde]

Loudy hi, I am super happy to hear it :) thanks for your comment!

[@elviskaan2211]

Hi I have iEZway ez6 pro scooter.Seller says scooter max speed is 19mph but doesn’t go with that ,max is 15 mph.So I tried m365 downg .doesnt work.it says Device not compatible .What can I do?i have to change dashboard or...?i need help please thank you

[@VRMinde]

Elvis Kaan hi mate, I know nothing about your scooter other than that is a clone of the m365, so I can not really help you. The first questions that pop in my head are: do you just need to get the m365 controller and swap it? Or only the dashboard? Will the battery pack have compatible BMS if you change the controller? Is the wiring the same or you need to re-do it? The only way to know is to try it, I guess. But there is no guarantee for success

[@flitsies]

I wonder though wouldn't you be better off using a tyre liner to protect your inner tubes, simply buy a tyre liner cut it to size and when something pierces your tyre it won't get past the liner which would protect your tubes. but also with regard to the suspension or lack of it with the 8.5 inch tyres why not simply buy a front suspension for the m365 it's not expensive and would solve your issue. The one thing that does make good sense to work on is the firmware, because the scooter is just too slow, it doesn't need to go fast just not so slow.

[@VRMinde]

flitsies yeah mate, you read my mind. I will try some liners inside the tires. I hope they work. It would be cool if someone developed a tire with it inside the rubber like there are ones for bikes. I have installed 10” wheels just to see what are they like. We have some of the best bike paths in the world here, I am not that worried about the suspension to be honest 🙄 And if I install the front suspension it will also be just out of the interest :)

[@flitsies]

@@VRMinde I understand as it's interesting to find out for yourself if something works well or not. I think the liners will be the way to go for long term puncture prevention.

[@wlacalle]

Do you need to modify fenders are anything for 10” tires? Do rims need to be changed ? Thank you

[@VRMinde]

wlacalle hi, - you need to guide your rear light/brake light cable through some other route, - you need a spacer and longer bolts for the rear fender (to lift it up), as well as for the kick stand. - you might consider replacing the front fender bolt to another one with a smaller head, but I did not do that as in my case it did not touch the tire. Rims stay the same

[@Chefchen21]

YOU have 2 DIFFRENT BMS Version instaled,so it can not be a accurat Test if you use diffrent BMS.There other parameter.Time 10,50 .

[@VRMinde]

How is BMS version affecting the performance? It does not matter what version of bms do you have mate.

[@BH4x0r]

BMS only is for charging/leveling the battery, totally unrelated to this test.

[@Sadzak23]

Hi, what is a recommended tire pressure on 10 inch? Thanks :)

[@VRMinde]

Sadzak23 it might depend on the manufacturer of the tire. It is normally written on the side of a tire. Mine are 35psi

[@Sadzak23]

@@VRMinde Tnx, mine are the same, but the guy who sold me tires told me that they are made for wheelchair. I think it is not the same if you push wheelchair, and if you ride your scooter 35km/h :) Not the same requirements (speed, grip, stability, motor power required/battery consumption...). That's why I'm asking :) Thanks

[@tommysantana2077]

what type of 10" tires did you use? Can you leave the link in the bio? Thank you

[@VRMinde]

Hey Tommy, I used WanDa, the ones that looked like these: a.aliexpress.com/_mOHq4j9

[@tommysantana2077]

@@VRMinde awesome! Thank you for replying. Ok I've seen those on eBay. I'll have to try again. I did but some before but those were 10x2.5 and i couldn't get them to seat properly so it wobbled. I ended up returning them and going back to 8.5x2. thanks for your video and again thanks for the reply

[@mickst9709]

I’ve got a set of 10” tyres & a kit to raise the rear mudguard so am all ready to go but am putting it off because of all the negative stuff I’ve been hearing about removing the wheels/taking the tyres off etc. This video makes me a little more confident but still a rainy day project for me, I think.

[@VRMinde]

Mick St I can understand :) The key 2 things to solve are: 1. Be sure the front tire fits under the fender/fender bolt. Some tire models are a bit taller and some scooters have tall headed bolt that might be needed to replace (I was lucky enough). 2. The rear light cable. It might be worth figuring out another route for it as the gap between the 10” tire and fender becomes tight enough 🙄 Removing tires and all the other things just takes some time. Take a long rainy saturday, get something to drink and you will make it :)

[@dannyboi21100]

U can buy spacers on ebay to get them on nice

[@jarisipilainen3875]

11:25 i prefer slower speed and better range than super speed not get back home and battery and motor will fry faster

[@VRMinde]

Yeah, I normally ride 2-3km, so I enjoy the full speed :) If I would be "at the limit" of the range I would go slowlier as well. Thanks for your comments mate!

[@glennparreno0406]

How long does the battery last??? How many hours i mean before it runs out? From 100 to 0...

[@VRMinde]

Not sure I completely understand - how many hours if you don’t use it or what? :) if you are heavy and ride uphill full speed on it won’t las an hour. If you leave it charged it will last for months :D

[@Motorizedstuff]

@@VRMinde lmfao good 1

[@Motorizedstuff]

Lol bro it depends on the speed you drive at and many other factors but if you stuck to the normal speed limit of 32kph maby it will do 2 and a half hour possible bro

[@saudalserri8213]

How do you make a custom firmware, becauze i put 10 inch wheels at it goes 24 instead of 25 idk why

[@Jasko1234]

Great video! I spare my time. Now I know this 10 inch upgrade is not for me.

[@VRMinde]

Janek Gałdecki glad it helped you to decide mate! :) in my head it is not a “must do”

[@MrFastFox666]

!'ll definitely upgrade to 10". I have a Hover 1 Pioneer, which is an M365 Clone. AFAIK I can't mod the firmware, so the increase in speed and smoothness would be nice

[@VRMinde]

uRiBiTo666 how fast does you Hover go?

[@erjonanastasi2987]

Question: can be fited from solid to these 10" tyres?

[@VRMinde]

You have solid tires on and want to mount these? Did you scooter came with solid tires on?

[@yairgurevich1483]

How are you moving without touching the throttle? 7:00

[@VRMinde]

Yair Gurevich it is on “cruise control”. If you keep your throttle on the very same position for 5s it will “lock it”, until you press it again or hit the brakes. With custom firmware you can adjust the timer. Mine is set to 1s

[@yairgurevich1483]

VRMinde oh didn’t know that, thanks. I just bought it yesterday so i don’t know anything lol

[@VRMinde]

Yair Gurevich that is ok :) it is usefull on longer straight roads :)

[@placesandspaces1660]

cruise control mode, use app to turn on of off

[@dummkompf]

have you tried running your 10" tires tubeless? (no, I am NOT referring to those horrible solid tires, I mean air-filled tires that are tubeless)

[@VRMinde]

Hi, no. I have an awful experience with tubeless tires on my mtb :D gets very messy

[@FatBoy-mb1je]

Let’s say if I have a 10in wheel Can I switch to a 8.5in without any problems with the scooter ?

[@VRMinde]

Normally yes, but you might have some "special case". The best way to know is to measure the diameter of the rim or inner diameter of the tire. Majority of the 8.5 and 10" tyres have it the same/very similar

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

In my opinion if you drive a mi365 scooter the best update is to buy a mi 365 pro controller and you will see immediate results in no time. It is as if you drive a whole new scooter, believe me. And of course use the solid tires

[@VRMinde]

I have tried all possible m365 controllers and they are the same in essence. Pro controllers have thicker traces, so they can take up some more heat/amps bwfore they burn (still managed to burn pro2 controller anyways). They do not provide any different riding experience

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

@@VRMinde With stock firmware and no hacks they run nicely and you have also auto throttling

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

@@VRMinde Yes it is true. I think you can reduce the time needed to travel if you improve the rear brake and lowering regen braking

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

So that you can go downhill faster

[@keithjones2812]

Hi there.. Could u please tell me where you got the adjustable firmware from, or if you could put up a link for it. I have already flashed my scooter but needed to change the parameters on it again. Thanks and keep up the good work 👌🏼👍🏻

[@VRMinde]

Keith Jones hey bro thank you for your support! You can create your firmware here: m365.botox.bz I use 1.38 as a basis to get the smoothest riding experience

[@keithjones2812]

Does this firmware work on the m365 pro? I've upgraded the dash to the pro version.. Thanks in advance 👍🏻😎

[@VRMinde]

@@keithjones2812 I don't think it will work for pro. There is this website m365pro.scooterhacking.org/ but I do not know how reliable it is or which firmware versions work/doesn't...

[@cirwo85]

Couldn’t hear you during firmware stuff cuz you had music on.. why do ppl always do that? If talking, make it so you can be heard plz duh. Why didn you change the firmware to 315 like it recommended? Thank you

[@VRMinde]

Adam Davis hi. Thanks for the feedback. No one likes to take critics, neither do I :) but I have to as you are completely right. I listened myself. It is hard to hear. I will consider this for sure making my next videos. Thanks for letting me learn. I did not change it, as this value only changes the displayed speed/distance by the xiaomi app. And I wanted to see what would be the experience of a user, who does not want to or cannot change the firmware while installing the 10” tires. And what would be the speed difference between the app and the GPS. Today on my 10” scooter it is set to 315. Hope that explains.

[@cirwo85]

VRMinde I apologize for blunt way I brought that up. I’m actually a born again Christian believe it or not. I should had nicely brought up the issue so I do apologize. Thanks for still being nice in your response! God bless you and thank you for answering my question about the 315. You rock

[@VRMinde]

Adam Davis nah mate, no worries. I think this world needs some direct open communication :) it helps to grow and to learn!

[@wolfqlf2287]

Where can you buy the 10 inch wheels?

[@VRMinde]

Wolf Qlf on aliexpress mate

[@wolfqlf2287]

VRMinde thanks mate i love ur video btw ✌🏼

[@Eirinikos_Antidrastiras]

Will the 10-inch wheels cause a problem to the engine?

[@VRMinde]

Ειρηνικός Αντιδραστήρας no it will not

[@Eirinikos_Antidrastiras]

@@VRMinde thank you🌷

[@Eirinikos_Antidrastiras]

@@VRMinde what about the battery life?

[@VRMinde]

Ειρηνικός Αντιδραστήρας your range will reduce a bit. Acceleration as well. Riding comfort will increase. And max speed as well (if you runing stock firmware). It will not in any way affect the longevity if your motor or battery. Your battery life will mainly depend on charging/discharging. You do not want to drain it empty and especially keep it empty for extended periods of time. You can charge it up to 80% if you leaving scooter for a longer time. You could actually always charge it up to 80% to increase the lifespan. Have in mind that my scooters are 1.5years old and I always charge to 100 and I have done crazy modifications, pushed some limits with the firmware and the batteries are still holding strong :)

[@Eirinikos_Antidrastiras]

@@VRMinde thank you so much for your quick response!!

[@joakimholstad6637]

It will probably be stronger uphill with smaller tires? As a 100kg guy i find it kinda slow on medium steep roads

[@VRMinde]

It should be better in accel and climbs with smaller tires 🙄 the difference is not huge ofc

[@laihuichengmc28]

Hey, which app do you use to show speed? This interface looks great!

[@VRMinde]

Hello, I think it was gps speedometer and odometer made by COOL NICKS on google app store. Otherwise I use “speedotmeter” app on iphone.

[@atrujillo7836]

Worth it for me my scooter doesn't get stuck in mud or gravel. I hit a gravel patch going 30kph on my es4 and it didn't feel good.

[@VRMinde]

Silenced9 Trujillo would be interesting to fit really wide tires for mud :)

[@SpahijaR]

hi bro, can you tell me the name of the app you use

[@VRMinde]

I am no longer sure which one was that mate. Either “speedometer” or m365 tools maybe :)

[@SpahijaR]

@@VRMinde bro i have another problem, when i try to connect the xiaomi scooter it tells me that it is already connected to another account, even if i have never logged in, advice?

[@VRMinde]

@@SpahijaR again, don’t know for sure if a simple firmware reinstall would help? If not, you might need to solder a few pins on the controller and use an st-link programmer to flash the controller 🙄

[@MrWhizeGuy]

@@SpahijaR when i have custom firmware on mine, i can't connect it via the Xiaomi app

[@Rcschim]

hi, in the meantime I have the KuGooKirin S4. Nice thing. As you said in your review - it's not good with climbing hills. Also I wish it would have a bit more punch on the acceleration... The next scooter to test for me would be the Cyberbot mini you suggested, (2x 500w 8.5" tires) or the KuGoo G3 (1x 1200w rear motor, 10"Tires). I know you love the cyber (and I've seen how they use your awesome shots as promo video on their page! The smaller tires are a bit of an disadvantage here right? Or does it not make much difference? Is the 2 motor setup way better for offroad? Will post my review next week - maybe you can help me get in touch with Cyberbot Mini? They seem to ignore my mails (which I understand) :) greets, Mario

[@VRMinde]

Hi, Two wheel drive will allways provide better acceleration/climb, therefore, feel better off-road. I have never tried the G3 so I can’t compare them or comment 🤷🏻‍♂️ smaller tires are also better for acceleration and worse for full-speed longe range riding, at least in my opinion 🙄

[@VRMinde]

Try sending them message on FB 🙄

[@JJbrosis]

Can you help me to brocke my m365 speed limit current version is V1.5.6

[@VRMinde]

Sorry mate, I have not done it on versions above 1.5.3, and I cannot give advice on things I have not done

[@espencapable]

Is the inner diameter the same on most motors?

[@VRMinde]

Can’t guarantee for the other scooters 🙄 never really tried mixing the tires

[@georgesmith3022]

I don't care about battery and acceleration. How much comfort will get improved with 10 inch tires?

[@VRMinde]

You will get “some”. Hard to describe, but there is a noteable difference

[@Maykay1312]

Now u can just get normal xiomi m365 second gen tires and tubes i have done over 1600km with my xiomi m365 pro2 no punctures anything i have hit the curb more times than i can remember and whent over glass sharp rocks everything the tires are still good their more warn out then punctured lmao

[@VRMinde]

Honestly I only had punctures with the stock tires. And only 1 puncture on the 10” one. I also have a set of the “gen 4” ones with the white strap that everyone claims to be awesome (I assume these are the same ones you are talking about) but I need to try them.

[@Motorizedstuff]

Thanks for the info bro

[@franklingee1267]

I guess you’ve been lucky I got two flats in one week but looking at what caused the flat in your video seems like you should run solids I agree air filled tires do feel better but you get used to the solids and no more flats

[@VRMinde]

I got my first (and only) flat also like a week after installation 😅

[@junaidrehman9449]

My front wheel was bold and ave got a flat from trying to change the tire

[@jesusisoursavior2682]

great reviw im about to buy xiaomo pro do you have review in xiaomi pro?

[@VRMinde]

yeezy forlife hi mate! No I do not have one... :(

[@lanssselotal3955]

Получается температуры от нагрузки выросли?

[@VRMinde]

я думаю, что да. Аккумулятор также разряжается быстрее

[@SamPeers1]

Really good helpful video. Many thanks

[@VRMinde]

Cheers mate!

[@petersteiner872]

Anytime! 2years on my mi p2 - no regrets. Just on the contrary…

[@hoi4god778]

What spedo app did you use?

[@VRMinde]

I think it was simply called “speedometer”

[@toyotacorolla4268]

He is using it on iphone and i have that app too. Its only availble on appstore of apple and its called somtihing like ”speedometer no ads”

[@jancko995]

Whats the russian algoritm CFW?

[@VRMinde]

TRe' CooL “normal” algorithm controls the speed (limiter). Let’s say your max speed is set on 20km/h, half the trottle will set it on 10km/h. So you are controlling the speed, but not the power. The russian one - controls the power, not the speed. Max trottle - max power despite of what speed are you going now. Half trottle - half power, etc. I hope I could explain it :D

[@jancko995]

@@VRMinde tnx, i thought that too. Ist this better than controling speed? Much more smother accelarations?

[@VRMinde]

TRe' CooL as sometimes I ride with other people - it is cool to set up constant speed to have a chat while riding. Russian algorithm is great if you, lets say, have custom firmware with a very low power constant (lots of power). Then you can control it yourself to avoid overheating/burning of battery or the motor. If you do it with the speed limiter - it might run 100% of power until it reaches the desired speed and burn something. Also you might have very smooth usage of the battery, while your speed will varry. At the end it is what you are used to :)

[@DavidJones-jx8qs]

THE UK PUBLIC WANT UK SCOOTERS LEGAL NOW PLEASE UK GOVERMENT.

[@DavidJones-jx8qs]

THANKS I KNOW

[@DavidJones-jx8qs]

make e scooter legal in uk COME ON UK GOVERMENT SORT OUT SAP

[@AliGbk]

Så ville du vælge std dæk eller 10" :)?

[@VRMinde]

With a stock battery pack I would stay on 8.5, with something more powerful 10” :)

[@EGLALGEXLAJOSEPHS]

Thank you so much for this research ...

[@cvetanpetkov9029]

does it increase speed 10 inch tyre

[@VRMinde]

Yes, if the max speed is limited by firmware. If you have unlimited it with custom firmware it will not increase the max speed. 10" tires will also decrease the acceleration.

[@cvetanpetkov9029]

VRMinde my max speed is 38-40kph for xiomi m365pro

[@VRMinde]

@@cvetanpetkov9029 on the original firmware? I assume you are a light rider :)

[@cvetanpetkov9029]

VRMinde I have very good hack no custom firmware

[@PH09NIX]

@@cvetanpetkov9029 What hack?

[@jarisipilainen3875]

1:43 its like bicycle 365 days year and flat tire happen when snow come LOL

[@WertzOne]

Seems like the real difference we're seeing in your video is TIRE QUALITY not tire size.

[@VRMinde]

WertzOne nah mate, the size matters 😁 now after having 8.5” and the 10” scooters I can confirn that it is much harder for the motor to spin the 10” wheels. Acceleration is slower, while “ammount of bumps” is smaller on the bigger tires.

[@michalminer4311]

nice memories to see Billund again.

[@VRMinde]

It's been growing in recent years :)

[@ThePr0Br0]

Thr bigger tyre must be using more battery, overall not really worth it unless you do a lot of flat ground trips

[@VRMinde]

sunny steve they indeed use more. For someone like me it is kind of ok as my daily commute is 3-10km. I will make an update after few moths if they last :)

[@bighorse215]

It will save your scooter in the long run less vibration is better for you electronics,bearings and frame.

[@ThePr0Br0]

@@bighorse215 i really don't think they will last as long as you think, I'd say 4~5000KM max before you need a battery change which you may as well buy a new one

[@VRMinde]

Phillyhorse this is true. And I think every tire has its’ own upsides and downsides. As users have different needs. The more options we as users have - the better :)

[@VRMinde]

ensayofr any recommendations for the controller for m365?

[@jarisipilainen3875]

8:06 how? it would not go over speed limit?without hack,but it would go faster you just not see it on display.it read wrong lol

[@jarisipilainen3875]

4:48 not matter even you set it 100km/h it wont go that fast

[@leoperalta4941]

You're a good modifier... well explained...kudos!

[@VRMinde]

Thanks man, I am normally too lazy to finish everything to a 100% perfect :) but I try to focus on what’s important

[@pierinocolombo3462]

The beautifull Billund, so nice city. All Denmark is so pretty

[@VRMinde]

We love it here as well! ❤️

[@koolaidcereza]

I had change 6 times the inner tube in the back wheel of my xiaomi. Are the 10 inch more resistant??

[@VRMinde]

koolaidcereza it looks like they are. I got only one flat yet 🙄 did you try the cst tires with the white line? People say they last better 🙄 one thing for sure - 10” is MUCH easier to mount :D

[@felixmdx]

so if I understood right if you hack firmware 10' becomes shit, but if you use default like normal person you gain speed, battery life and distance.

[@barenekid9695]

Why do you think it becomes shit ? FirmWare sees speed as wheel RPM Larger diameter wheel (tire) means it can cover more distance per rotation... ie go faster. And unless you've altered the FW for the larger diameter wheel then it will be faster top speed but the speedo will be inaccurate. 10" tire will reduce accel a bit.. but then that's why we Hack the FW :-)

[@VRMinde]

If you hack the firmware, you get more riding comfort and loose acceleration and some range from a charge. If you don’t hack it you gain max speed and you gain some riding comfort. I assume you will also loose some range, but I did not test it too much to be firm on this 🙄

[@felixmdx]

@@VRMinde I just dont care to change FW (for me just irrelevant), but bigger wheel means longer distance and faster ride for the same amount of battery consumption, only apps gonna show wrong distance and speed (whats not important at all) the biggest problem for now have been changing tire, originals I tried few hours and failed, its impossible, now I got tinyurl.com/rjfberd (but performance fall is too noticeable, but at least I could get them on plus puncture resistance was important, where I live its easy to puncture tire after each 200m) Im thinking to upgrade only front wheel to 10'' (tinyurl.com/sxzah6f) just wondering how hard installation is compared to originals

[@VRMinde]

felixmdx hi, you are not right regarding the “longer distance with bigger wheels” mate. Bigger wheels are harder to spin for the motor. You will see how much your acceleration will reduce. Especially when less than 50% battery is left. Mounting these 10” is so much easier than the original ones :)

[@felixmdx]

@@VRMinde hmm, as I have regular m365 not pro, even with regular wheels its noticeable lost of power at 50% but if their installations are easier than originals its a yes for me :) and im starting to think about Ninebot Max G30

[@pmcapitao]

You didnt change the "wheel size" setting in the firmware to 315 (for 10' tyre), so the speed is higher cause of that!

[@VRMinde]

Pedro Capitão it is a gps speed mate :)

[@bobgreen81]

Great review ty !

[@VRMinde]

Thanks man, glad you liked it!

[@bobgreen81]

@@VRMinde i just changed my m365 pro tires to 10 inches Wanda 2 after watching your movie :) and i am going to test it when the battery will be at full change.

[@VRMinde]

@@bobgreen81 If you are on a custom firmware and removed the speed limiter - max speed will be the same. Should notice more comfy ride and slower acceleration though :) If you are on stock firmware - expect some extra speed :) Let me know

[@millsshumps1968]

Slime is a waste of time. It works best in warm/hot climate conditions and can only take a small pin prick puncture. Anything bigger like a cut or nail and sealing is less effective. Slime tyre-liner is more effective but harder install because of the oily substance that makes it easier to push into the tyre with slightly inflated inner tube. I use Gorilla tape with Slime tyre-liner combo. Easier to install into 10" tyre over 8.5". Running a pair of Decent 10.2" escooter tyres on my Xiaomi 10" tyre is easier installation, better road comfort and grip. As for modifying scooter through the app, I wouldn't bother. I'd rather have the maximum range with the 10" tyre at 15.5mph over higher speed, and increase battery drain over its lifetime.

[@VRMinde]

True all that. Actually with the 10” tyre I got way less punctures as well. Probably related less to the size than to the tyre quality :)

[@millsshumps1968]

@@VRMinde 10.2" tyre is less likely to pinch-flat, or damage inner tube over its lifetime. But in wet climate conditions the tyre can still cut or prone to pin prick puncture because the tyre compound and tyre wall inner thickness is the same as the 8.5" tyre. I just wiped off the oily substance on my slime tyre-liner and use gel superglue to carefully install the liner in place and cut off excess. Then add one layer of Gorilla tape over to reduce any chance of the tyre liner edges to cut the inner tube over time. But slime tyre-liner is very smooth and flexible yet tough. The compound used for Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres would be the ultimate fit and forget tyre for scooters. But they don't make 10" tyres.

[@Bergwacht]

i can remember the stock tires, i just needed another person to change and it was still a WAR. are you wearing different gloves while driving?^^

[@VRMinde]

I actually did :D It was freezing, but I still needed a finger for touchscreen :D

[@jocktamsonjnr1326]

thanks for a good informative video

[@VRMinde]

pol itic thank you for the support!

[@jarisipilainen3875]

3:45 your speedometer will read 35km/h and you will be happy or. OH MY GOD still same. you need change wheel size too. scooter not know you changed them LOL

[@VRMinde]

I use a gps speed tracker, instead of the xiaomi app anyways :) But yes, you are right.

[@chspachos9050]

Hey mate very nice video. Just want t ask to reach 35km/h have to change the motor power constant or just kers and maximum speed do the job?

[@VRMinde]

Yes, if you roll down the huge mountain :) To reach the 35km/h on a flat road you will most probably need to overvolt your system with 48V battery or something like that. If you are really light-weight and go for something like 25000 motor power constant, you might reach the 35, but I do not recommend to keep it as something will most definitely overheat/burn. I did a test with the double battery yesterday and with 30k power constant I could maintain around 31km/h while the battery was full and there was no big wind in my face.

[@walterkersting6238]

Yeah you need bearings, change them out and that rattling will stop and she’ll seem like new

[@VRMinde]

I honestly do not know what rattling you are talking about. Furthermore, I have never seen "Ratling" bearings. They start to make a noise, but I would not call it rattle. Can you pinpoint at which part of the video you hear the rattle please? Thanks man!

[@marks9127]

4:14 - 4:28 I heard them too. I agree those aren't bearings, it is the rear mudguard vibrating on porous road. I have the same thing with my pro 2, if the guard and its support (if you have one) aren't screwed down really tight, they'll vibrate on some asphalt roads. Not a big deal and it doesn't affect driving in any way.

[@VRMinde]

@@marks9127 oh that is the part with terrible asphalt :) many things could rattle, bearings not being one of them :)