How did I fit 10 inch tires on Xiaomi M365?

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I got too many flat tires on my Xiaomi M365 recently and decided to try and fit the 10-inch ones.
I purchased the tires on AliExpress, but the seller is "no longer available"... I think you can easily find similar ones.
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[@VRMinde]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6POmnyumJeLnKc Be sure to check this vid out!

[@NYCLOCAL96]

How long did Ali express take to deliver the tire

[@VRMinde]

@@NYCLOCAL96 I can't remember now... it normally takes ~1-1.5 months...

[@snipezpro9554]

Your wheel is bigger but spins the same so it is a bit faster

[@hymatwat9412]

But less torque

[@snipezpro9554]

Tory Boy yes but faster speed :) thats what counts topspeed ;) not torque :) lol

[@SumeragiMinami]

larger wheel diameter = more ground covered each revolution. 👍🏼

[@maggot810]

Did you purchase 10” inner tubes or still the 8.5” inner tubes? As there’s no clear instructions on this

[@jackfoster4859]

@@SumeragiMinami spot on

[@Mr31Vince]

Its faster because the wheel diameter is now bigger, but it also accelerates slower for the same reason.

[@barenekid9695]

The increased speed Definitely outweighs the barely noticeable accel reduction. Real life :-)

[@Re0xHVH]

2:58 u could rotate it and take it out :D

[@VRMinde]

It was only half way there yet :D

[@migelprager1097]

Congratulations for having done this job with such a shity tools! (I even saw a burger spatula inbetween! :D)

[@VRMinde]

migel prager common man, there is nothing better than this spatula for xiaomi tire mounting :D I almost consider framing it on to the wall! :D

[@foosty6]

I know this is old but... The 10" tyre has 18% more diameter than a 8.5" tyre, so at the same rpm it will be 18% faster but will have 18% less torque, so at 26 kph on display will actually be 31 kph

[@nayemreza08]

You should flash custom firmware to adjust for the increased diameter

[@djjjozsi]

I always learn from other's fault, so i'm happy to see how its made. Keep up the good job. thank you. :)

[@VRMinde]

That is a smart approach man :) thanks!

[@xZeroOffical]

Kudos for showing your mistakes and not cutting them out. It serves as a great reminder to us. Awesome tutorial with workarounds for common challenges. Mistake of putting the tire backwards I did in the past, and it was with stock tires. 💀

[@VRMinde]

Hi mate, thanks for this comment, very kind of you. I am trying to keep my channel at least a bit "realistic" as all social media these days is somehow "not real enough" :)

[@schlooonginator1227]

As a mountain biker who watched bikes go from 26" to 29", I opted for a 10" wheeled scooter. Larger wheels go over terrain easier. It just does not get hung up on things and this is noticeable on bikes with much larger wheels so any increase to the relatively tiny wheels of a scooter is a no brainer. You will go over rough patches and even light off road much easier as well as increased stability plus increased contact patch giving better traction. Negatives would be increased weight, not really a big deal on a scooter, and slower acceleration.

[@VRMinde]

I ride 29ers myself, but I like the 8.5" on stock xiaomi more :) I will soon get some speed+power upgrade, then 10" might be better.

[@rndmfella1874]

Threadlock on aluminum? o_O The reason it "feels faster" is because it is. The motor-controller doesn't know that you changed wheel size so basically you tricked it in to turning a 10" wheel at the same speed as the smaller 8.5" giving you a increased power output of aprx +16%

[@VRMinde]

Rndm Fella There is a steel plate with thread inside, not alu :) and I figured the speed “mystery” after uploading the vid. :). However, if you run your scoot with already modified firmware and no speed limits set, it might be hard to notice any speed difference ;)

[@Shawn-yp9ic]

Im running flashed firmware and didnt feel any increase in speed (it was the reason I did it) however I did get a much softer ride and unfortunately, a loss of all that pep that flashing had given me. Any ideas how to negate the loss in quick response?

[@VRMinde]

@@Shawn-yp9icwhich version of firmware did you use as a base? I normally use 1.3.8 it gives me the best riding experience. You can definitely increase your top speed with custom firmware if you change the speed limit. However, your acceleration will decrease due to larger wheels. You can balance it a bit by decreasing "motor constant power". Just don't go too crazy...

[@Shawn-yp9ic]

@@VRMinde yea, Im using 138 too. My flashed file is by Camil? Julian? He made the m365downg app. I have a good version of his called "firm" and it really hauls ass. What I forgot was I had blown a fuse (F2) in the controller, possibly linked to pulling that kind of performance but it made the motor cut off when I turned the headlight on. Turn light off motor worked. When I change tires I also changed controllers to fix that issue and initially forgot that changing controllers changed my firmware flash. Ive since reflashed the Julian fw and its all good, its back to being fun tocride again and beating every scooter I race. I know theres faster scooters, Dualtrons etc, but here in San Diego Ive never seen one, Limes, Birds, Lyfts, Razors, Jumps, Wheels, etc, none of them can touch me. I'll catch them, drive up, ask "is that it?" They're like, what? Is that full throttle? Yes. C-ya, and drive away.

[@VRMinde]

Shawn Haxton glad you found the issue! Can I ask what is your motor power constant value? I has mine lowest at 32000, did not blow the fuse :)) If you go like 20000 it will be really fast, but also risky to burn :))

[@cosb9479]

Happy to see I'm not the only owner who has had to redo because tyre direction was wrong.. 😁 👌

[@VRMinde]

Chris D Osborne 😂 that is such a pain to redo it! From “yahooo!” To “oh shit” in 1 sec :D

[@dennisreicht7226]

I loughed so hard at 4:05 ;D...could be me....Thanks for saving me! EDIT: FUCK DAAAMN 5:02 is even better muhahahaha

[@VRMinde]

Dennis Reicht yeah I tend to f-up now and then when doing things :) now It is funny, not that funny back then 😂

[@gelisob]

You didnt touch in the video, how does raising the rear fender affect the line up for folding the handlebar and carring it by that?

[@VRMinde]

Good point. It still works :)

[@memorymuncher2738]

Great content, Cheers from England

[@VRMinde]

Thank you very much! Stay safe out there!

[@kearfy]

You can actually change the tire size with custom firmware. Because the scooter expects the wheels to be smaller than they actually are, they scooter goes faster than the speed it shows on the display :)

[@jonahmann]

It actually is going faster because you put larger wheels on. Each time the wheel spins you travel the distance of the circumference of the wheel and a larger wheel has a longer circumference. If the wheel spins withe same frequency, you cover a longer distance per time, that is to say faster. The increase in speed is directly proportional to the increase in wheel diameter. If you changed from 8.5 to 10 inch wheels, then if the dashboard reads 25km/h then you are actually traveling around 30km/h.

[@VRMinde]

Yes, until you reach some limit potential, and this will be amps that your stock battery pack can give. Otherwise you could add a huge wheels and fly at 300km/h right? :) so, if you remove any speed limits in firmware and add a lot amps - at the end I get to the same max speed with both wheel sizes

[@foosty6]

I agree, there is an 18% difference so that is 18% higher speed per rpm but a 18% reduction in torque/acceleration

[@Mietas2]

Oh wow... I knew wasn't easy to change the tyre but here it looks super complicated! So a complete no-no for a change somewhere in the field...

[@VRMinde]

tire change? on the field? :) nooo mate. I would rather carry my scooter for 10km walking :D (I would most probably drive on an empty tire, and later buy a new one, as these stock ones are terrible anyways)

[@Reeko100]

Could someone help me my Xiaomi pro keeps getting dirty every time I ride it especially in the mud it’s a nightmare to clean it😣I need stickers for the body but I want black ones and can’t find them anywhere online there all the camo or very bright colours, So a link or website to purchase any would be Extremely helpfull it’s Damaging my scooter And the reason I need black is because they are now illegal in london😥😡

[@asterion2499]

This man single-handedly inserted a tire with his bare hands

[@VRMinde]

Yeah, 10” is easy :)

[@franc2255]

10 inch with inner tube* Solid tire are litteraly impossible to fit without right tools

[@jlovee2211]

@@franc2255 bro what? i bouled a tubeless tire for 5 min, then grabbed it wit smal gloves amd in a minute they were on

[@henrykmur]

There's a quite obvious reason your scooter is faster after the change. Just think about it. :-)

[@VRMinde]

Henryk Mur good point, I actualy thought about it after uploading the vid. :) My speed limit did not change and controller still keeps the same ammount of rotations per minute. Meanwhile the larger tire radius makes sure I travel more distance per rotation. This is kind of a “speed hack” for the ones that cannot change the firmware :)

[@ianhartley9765]

Yep, rolling diameter. 👍

[@Shawn-yp9ic]

Yea. The geometry is clear, but mine wasnt faster so I was WTFing until I remembered why

[@Reeko100]

Bigger wheels slower performance.Just saying🤷🏻‍♂️ 👇🏻

[@deerenzo]

But much better riding quality and more comfort.

[@Reeko100]

Der Italiener ok I just got one yesterday the pro and it is fasttt and these things are now illegal soo when I see police I’m not thinking about comfort in thinking about speed😂🤷🏿‍♂️

[@mareksvrcina5279]

Well, if you get bigger wheels, you accelerate slower, but you can ride faster.

[@VRMinde]

I think it is a very personal choice :)

[@adbitex]

@@Reeko100 which country are you from, why are they illegal?

[@Bergwacht]

here the difference...8,5" honeycomb vs 10" air xD i.postimg.cc/xjFZ2Tvg/P1060328.jpg In the German version, the 10 "didn't even fit, sanded on the frame. i just drilled a second hole 1cm further back, for the wheel bolt, now the wheel fitted BUT after that the brake disc was too far away from the brake - now the scooter has a bigger brake disc and evrything fits.

[@VRMinde]

Do you always ride without the front fender? :D And does it come in grey color in Germany as standard?

[@Bergwacht]

@@VRMinde I drive without the front fender yes. The fender limits the suspension travel from the suspension to 2 centimeters, without the fender this is an off-road beast. No problems to drive over a lawn at 15 km / h The scooter was available here in black and silver. (named ESA 1919)The silver one didn't sell well so there was a 30% discount of it, the scooter came € 260. Greets :)

[@milanfpv5099]

@@Bergwacht what suspension?

[@Bergwacht]

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[@cihanlost]

Hi mate, thanks for this video. Your video was the reason why i did not change to 10" tires. But i have heard that there are some differences on the 10" tires. Some of them don't last 300 km. The wanda p1069 -02 should be fine. I have no idea. Maybe i will try them. And do you think it is possible to get the screw under the front fender in a baumarkt?

[@VRMinde]

cihanlost no problem mate. I am not the biggest fan of the 10” today 🙄 was going today against the strong wind and I think the scooter with 8.5” would do a better job in terms of speed 🙄 I am not sure about the bolt. I did not need to replace it as it did not ever touch the tire. But I think you can find something like this in a department store 🙄

[@abinsali7251]

07:40 that display dial looks cool... how did you do it.. is its sticker , where can i get one

[@VRMinde]

Yeah, mate these are stickers. Just get some from Aliexpress :)

[@princeMychkine]

Hi, have you seen the latest offroad tires? Theyre an 8.5, 9 and 10 inches option. You can also buy then tubeless with a valve. Would be nice if you could talk about them.

[@VRMinde]

thanks, have not seen them

[@robertgaland2658]

are you a giant? @7.33

[@VRMinde]

Robert Galand hahahaha no mate, only 191cm :D

[@dantepaule4311]

Great innovation.... Great job....Xioami m365 /Pro are so popular here in the Philippines 🇵🇭....

[@VRMinde]

dante paule I would rathet call it a quick fix than an innovation :) cheers mate

[@Maykay1312]

their popular everywhere because theyre cheap , cheaper then some shity bike

[@froggerc625]

Haha I remember putting on my rear MTB tire the wrong direction tubeless, was not a happy camper lol.

[@VRMinde]

hate tubeless for all the mess :D

[@fazfarren]

It feels faster because it is faster! The speed is only governed in the scooter ECU by the RPM of the wheel so although the speed on the display will be the same as wheel RPM is the same, your reel speed will increase as each rotation of the wheel moves you forward further. 8.5 inch to 10 inch is a 17% increase in circumference so also a 17% increase in top speed - worth checking with a GPS though.

[@VRMinde]

In theory - yes, you are right. We have had this discussion here several times now :) the speed is limited by the overall motor power because my ECU firmware is not limiting the max speed. At the end 10” is not driving faster, furthermore - it has slower acceleration if you “unlimit” the scooter on the firmware :)

[@VRMinde]

@@derickrk I completely get it mate, I understand that the speed will be displayed incorrect (unless you make the adjustment in the firmware) and that controller will see it incorrect as well, therefore you will drive faster than the m365 dashboard will show you. What I am trying to tell you, that both with 8.5” and 10” wheels you will drive (for example) max 30km/h if you measure it on GPS because the scooter is simply not capable of driving faster. On 8.5” tires you will see the dashboard showing 30km/h and on 10” 27.5km/h or so. Take a gps based speed measuring app and give it a try :) In actual fact scooter with 10” tires is noticeably less capable to accelerate because of the bigger wheel mass that it has to spin (I assume) and I have measured that many times as well, at the end they reach the same max speed. 10” tires work as a “speed hack” only if your scooters’ max speed is limited by firmware to let’s say 25km/h.

[@poppamadison9841]

So we should extend the forks and fit 14 inch wheels eh? sounds a great idea ! We might get 90mph ???

[@VRMinde]

@@poppamadison9841 go for 29 from mtb :) Then it is also easier to find a suspension fork :D

[@tingotalango5473]

If the speed limit is tied to the amount of revolutions the wheels is doing, and you put a bigger circumference, you are in fact going faster....

[@VRMinde]

What if the speed is limited to the amount of energy your battery pack can release and you put a bigger circumference tire?

[@tingotalango5473]

@@VRMinde it has been artificially limited by software from manufacturers, in fact you are hacking at a hardware level the speed limitation built into the device. There is also the possibility to deal with the software, I have seen videos on that too. But having been using the scooter as it is, I feel the battery is a real limitation particularly on the entry level model I bought, so I won't change the firmware any time soon, as it is, when I go over a slope, the real limitation is the power from the battery... but I have the cheapest model from xiomi.

[@VRMinde]

@@tingotalango5473 I do not consider anyone is riding their m365 with stock firmware :D If you got the 1s, your battery is a really big limitation. Even if you remove the software limitation you won't see too much difference, nor the 10" tires will help you. We have tested that with my brothers' 1s

[@Bergwacht]

has anyone seen 10 "off road tires somewhere? or at least some that don't are like slicks? all of the tires I find have too little profile.

[@VRMinde]

I have not.. I think with a suspension like this you might be able to fit 2.5 or even 3 wide maybe... That would expand the options list I guess

[@murderdoggg]

It it is limited to a certain speed, then larger diameter tires will let you go faster if you don't correct the tire size in your controller. You will probably get less accelleration though.

[@VRMinde]

True, if it is limited by firmware/ecu. In my case it was only limited by what the stock battery could deliver :) at the end my top speed is the same, acceleration a bit slower.

[@ajayb2478]

I put the tyre on the wrong way! It was a solid tyre I wanted to cry! Solid tyres are the worst to put on

[@VRMinde]

I can imagine mate 😂😂😂

[@cihanlost]

Wow i like the maneuver at the end when you gently lift up the scooter to pass the boardwalk..

[@VRMinde]

Hi mate, this is an essential one for city riding :) A bit rougher version is to jump on/off when you don't want to slow down :)

[@Charkel]

Haha screwing on a Xiaomi: What is this screw, a 4? No it doesn't fit perfect but the 5 is too big wtf is this like 4.2??

[@VRMinde]

Which one? The front wheel?

[@Charkel]

@@VRMinde Naah I had worrisome wiggleroom when trying to adjust the brake wire on back tyre

[@VRMinde]

@@Charkel replace the calipers to X-tech. They are much better and not that expensive from aliexpress

[@Charkel]

@@VRMinde >In sweden we have a 8 Euro import fee regardless of item value :( They should be standard M screws I just pick up something of good metal from the local hardware store. (hopefully before I strip it) :)

[@ZeNex74]

suspension arrived and new brakes... now i want the 10" tyres... sounds liek its good?

[@VRMinde]

I am not sure mate. It takes away a lot of acceleration. If you have suspension already, I doubt you will get that much difference?

[@morpheusmatrix7338]

hahahhaha,, im only laughing because I have also done the exact same mistake once :D cheers mate

[@VRMinde]

morpheus matrix it is a bit frustrating 😂😂😂

[@MVillarica]

Hello I’m new to the electric scooter. I just got a used DVEOI I can’t find much information about it but it’s similar to an HX X7. The rear tires needs to be replaced and found out that the tires are 8.5x2. So my question is I don’t need to change rims to change the tires to a 10inch?

[@VRMinde]

no, same rims should work :)

[@imzshd2202]

you should do a 10 inch solid tires with a speed hack if you want to

[@VRMinde]

imzs hd I guess 1km/h + with the solid ones and lost comfort.

[@imzshd2202]

@@VRMinde try to make a video with 10 inch solid tires

[@VRMinde]

imzs hd hmmm I am a bit hesitant as 10” tires I put only for comfort. Solid ones will take all that comfort away. I had one flat tire only since I mounted these on 🙄

[@nickiminajwannabe]

The 10 inch tires increase your speed by 5%

[@gingerjessy]

The electronics must be measuring rpm. Bigger circumference means more distance travelled I guess.

[@barakcobrama1703]

just a little update on the solid rear Tyre its so bumpy the vibration has damaged the bearings it still hear it tho, i suggest just fillig it with the silicone.its way metter comfort wise.

[@Lippalakki]

What kind of tyre pressure you use with those 10 inch tires?

[@VRMinde]

I generally use the max pressure written on the tire wall. Can't remember the pressure now

[@idooshani2359]

Can i put shocks suspension with 10 wheels?

[@VRMinde]

I guess it depends on which suspension do you choose. I have not tried them, so I cannot comment.

[@oliverbode9257]

Ido Oshani Did you find a answer? Really wanna know this aswell

[@Psi-Storm]

@@oliverbode9257 There is a suspension for the back wheel, it looks wild.

[@gilcpd]

Hey Mike nice video. Are you considering trying the MonorimsV2? Im considering removing my solid tires and put these 10 inch... Im just concerned with punctures, I live in Brussels, and I had to fix punctures many times but the scooter rattles so much and I feel all the impact on my knees with the solid tires.

[@VRMinde]

Gill Lima hi, thanks! I only had one puncture since mounting the 10” tires 🙄 I do not know if I was just lucky or they are somehow better. Unless someone would like to send me the suspension for review - I doubt I will mount it. The roads are smooth here and with inflatable tires I feel comfy enough riding the scooter 🙄 I am hesitant on spending extra 100eur :)

[@gilcpd]

@@VRMinde It is quite a commitment... I'm considering but you are right, its very steep price for a scooter suspension. I've got my M365 for 350EUR on sale back in 2017. If I do the 10' tires + front suspension and the KONYK read suspension I think the upgrades alone will get close to the original price, maybe buying a new one. If I end up going ahead I'll post a video for you to check ups :) Thank man, love your channel.

[@VRMinde]

Gill Lima exactly mate. And then you will want a bit more speed, and Rita with 12s battery will be another 250 eur. You will get close to 1k eur 🙄 Maybe it is wise to sell the m365 and get another 1000 eur scooter with original suspension, larger battery, more speed and etc. m365 is a great cheap scoot, but there are better scooters out there, if you wanna spend more $

[@teama224]

From Panama! Awesome mod mate!

[@VRMinde]

Team A Panama!? :O omg that’s far away mate! :)

[@itsmesezgin]

how big are those rims? are the also 10 inch or 8.5 ich?

[@VRMinde]

It is the same rim

[@MCAQUIN0]

in terms of getting parts for repairs and easy modifications, which would be best; the xiaomi m365 pro or the ninebot max?

[@VRMinde]

Mc Quinoa sorry mate never had a ninebot. And never needed parts for xiaomi :) but there are plenty for xiaomi at least. Maybe someone else knows better

[@MCAQUIN0]

@@VRMinde oh word, thanks man. Im trying to make a choice which one to buy. Would the m365 be comfortable to ride for a 30 minute commute in your opinion?

[@VRMinde]

Mc Quinoa if you can, get an ebike :) 30mins on scooter is quite some time standing still. But if you can’t, it is doable. I would recommend at least to get the pro version, unless you plan to drive 30mins, then charge it to get back home. 1hr ride full speed, especially in a cold weather “classic” m365 will be dry on juice :)

[@MCAQUIN0]

@@VRMinde ah yea you're right. I was looking into mini ebikes too. But its 200$ more for the jetson bolt compared to xiaomi. Worth it for a seat though!

[@VRMinde]

Mc Quinoa and also check the legislation. Somehow ebikes are more accepted in some countries than scooters :)

[@baleustalt317]

Minde, kokie tikslus padangos išmatavimai? 10x2" ? Ar 10x2.25"?

[@VRMinde]

Blyn, paziuresiu ryt

[@poppamadison9841]

The shops who sell E scooters could make a lot of extra money by providing an upgrading service PRIOR TO PURCHASE of an E Scooter. I WANT A CUSTOM E-SCOOTER !!!!!!!!! "Yeah Mr. Dealer, I'll take a Xiaomi m365 with all thus far KZbin upgrades...............Emmachisit mate ?"

[@VRMinde]

Probably buying a better scooter is cheaper than upgrading the one you have. But the process of upgrading is more rewarding than the process of buying :)

[@mauriciorodriguez-qq5mi]

What size tubes did you install for this? I tried reinforced 8.5 x 2, and 10 x 2 on the front wheel, and they both bulge(swell) abnormally at the valve end causing a "lump", that makes the handlebars shake a lot while riding. No issues with the back wheel.

[@VRMinde]

The tubes came with the tire, I do not even know the size mate...

[@KismetMookz]

i laughed so hard when he noticed he pushed the tyre to the opposite side. Happened also to me!

[@VRMinde]

I was not laughing back then when I realized that :D

[@chunks23]

Hi would anyone know if some scooters have 2 different size wheels?I bought one 2md hand and it had 10inch on front wheel and 8.5inch on the back!

[@VRMinde]

Never seen that yet :)

[@rogerlane2282]

I have 10" x 2.5" tires, do you think I can get away with doing the modification anyway?

[@VRMinde]

Roger Lane good question, but I doubt it :) I saw people struggling to fit some of the tires in front. Mine is pretty close to the fender as well 🙄 you can try replacing the front one and if it fits - it worked, if it doesn’t you will have to go back :) People use front fork extenders made of metal to fit the front tire for sure, even for 3 wide tires. Like these made in Russia www.dochello.ru/shop/zhelezo/stalnye-prostavki-udliniteli-dlya-10h2-5-i-10h3/

[@alenkorajacob9463]

@@VRMinde i have a question 10 x 2.25 will it fit the rear easily .

[@VRMinde]

@@alenkorajacob9463 it should. Might touch the rear light cable/connector so some fixing of the cable might be needed or it might “wear” it through in a couple months

[@mitchcalangi5430]

I love your content its very authentic and informative thank you 😘

[@VRMinde]

Mitch Calangi thank you so much, very kind of you! I am very happy when someone likes my content :)

[@mitchcalangi5430]

@@VRMinde well its true and you deserve It the way you explain and demonstrate your content is clear and direct not Like some youtubers... i find you funny and cool too specially when you make some minor mistakes ☺️

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture5472]

Is these a chance that a 10 inch tire would rub against my front mudguard if I did this to my Mi 1S?

[@VRMinde]

It depends on the tire. More often they rub against the bolt that holds the mudguard in place. Replacement if the bolt to a one with a more recessed head helps. I am actually not sure if newer models like 1s are not already with the recessed head bolts 🙄

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture5472]

@@VRMinde ok thanks i probably Will buy 9 inch because it is a little bit bigger and easier to get on the wheel

[@vaiosdiminikos4628]

mine is rubbing too.

[@robertrich7946]

ur vids are awesome, ive beeb watching like crazy. but can u go from a 10 in to an 8.5. are the hubs the same. im running a hover 1 alpha with 10 in wheels. all i can find is 8.5 hard wheels.

[@VRMinde]

Robert rich thanks man. In theory you can :) I have installed the 10” tires on the same rim where the 8.5 was installed. Beware that hard rubber wheels are VERY hard to mount :)

[@winniedepui9942]

Hi I was wondering if after this 10 inch upgrade, do you have to change the settings or firmware?

[@VRMinde]

You can change the wheel size to see correct speed measurement, but it is not necessary

[@barakcobrama1703]

there is a motion senser back light no wires.

[@KazikFurmanczyk]

Great video, informative and funny, keep it up dude

[@VRMinde]

Kazik Furmanczyk thanks mate, happy you liked it! :)

[@KazikFurmanczyk]

@@VRMinde I just ordered a 10" kit thanks to your video

[@VRMinde]

Kazik Furmanczyk Nice, hopefuly you get them soon :) I have also ordered another set for my black scooter.

[@sabirkhankhurshid5326]

Can you just guide when I open my axiomi m365 you know the battery charging light basically its four dots light yeah so my scooter showing only one which is up one not the down one and the tail red light blinking and then near the the accelerator sircuit plug red light and green light blinking please can you tell me if what is the problem

[@VRMinde]

1. Can you connect via xiaomi app to the scooter via bluetooth and see the error code? 2. If you cant connect, count the green light blinks. How many long blinks and how many short? This count will give you error code

[@Patiboke]

2:52 It was at this point... I would've taken the tyre off, squeeze it into an oval shape and pull the wheel through.

[@VRMinde]

Have you actually tried that? :) because I have so many doubts about that 😂

[@harmswinter5534]

good job , i have done rear first , clearence in china parts need improvisation . i like denmark . intellegent gouverment , more than here :)

[@VRMinde]

Thanks mate, have fun riding! :)

[@CharlieEdward25]

nice 1 bro enjoyed this maybe in a year il try to mod my scooter but only just got it so im in that keep it clean stage lol

[@VRMinde]

Charlie Shakur 8.5 inch wheels are not bad. Enjoy the ride and thanks for your support! :)

[@CharlieEdward25]

@@VRMinde no worries mate its a great bit of kit for the price i enjoy going shops on it worried about the gap and the wheels going thoe

[@youssefgrine8294]

What tube do you use for this tires? The original one 8,5 inch? Or you bought also new tubes?

[@VRMinde]

Youssef 20016 there were tubes that came with the 10” tires

[@MrFastFox666]

Fitting bigger tires will reduce acceleration (so you might have a harder time going up a hill) but it will increase your speed.

[@VRMinde]

Only if you are not riding with custom firmware and speed limit set on like 35 or 40km/h. If you are - your max speed will not increase either

[@MrFastFox666]

@@VRMinde No, your top speed will increase because of math and physics. Let me explain. To measure the speed, your scooter uses the rotational speed of the front tire. You can verify this by spinning the front tire by hand with the scooter on (assuming yours shows the speed). To limit the speed, the firmware simply limits the maximum rotational speed of the motor (and thus, the front tire). In other words, setting a speed limit in firmware in reality sets a maximum speed on the motor RPM. Let's assume that your scooter has the speed limit set to 30 km/h, which is 8.33 m/s. The original tire has a diameter of 0.216 meters, so it has a circumference of 0.678 meters. The circumference is the distance your wheel (and thus, your scooter) will advance in one rotation of the wheel. 8.33 m/s divided by 0.678 m gives us 12.29, which means that at 30km/h, the wheels will rotate 12.29 times every second. The motor controller will allow the motor to spin at a maximum of 12.29 revolutions per second (RPS) the 10" tires have a diameter of 0.254 m, so a circumference of 0.797 meters. Remember that the circumference is the distance the wheel advances with one rotation. Recall that our maximum rotation speed is 12.29. so 12.29 x 0.797 = 9.79 m/s. That's 35 km/h. So, with 10" tires and a firmware-set speed limit of 30 km/h, your scooter will actually travel at 35 km/h. You can use a GPS to check if you don't believe me. This is also an issue with cars, since they also use the rotation speed of the wheel to determine speed. Installing a larger tire will make the speedometer read lower. For example, your speedo might read 60km/h, but you could be going 65 instead. Opposite if you install a smaller tire, you could be going 55 when your speedo reads 60. You also lose acceleration due to the larger moment arm with the larger tire. the short story is: smaller tires give you better acceleration, larger tires give you better top speed.

[@VRMinde]

uRiBiTo666 mate, thanks for spending so much time to write this all up. But you miss one point. As I said, if your scooters max speed is already unlimited bythe current firmware (let’s say set to 40km/h), your actual max speed is limited by the capabities of the motor. And larger wheels will not help you to reach faster speeds. Like if your VW golf 1.6D max speed is 160km/h (as the motor can’t produce more power to go fastet), and you add larger tires, your max speed will not increase, most likely decrease. I did many tests using gps with both scooters (8.5” and 10” wheels), and on a normal flat road they reach very similar max speed (around 29/30km/h with my 88kg of body weight)

[@VRMinde]

And as I stated many times, I agree that your actual speed will increase if you use stock firmware when your motor is limited by it, but not by it’s power capability.

[@sepzuuu183]

@@MrFastFox666 Even if you go Faster the scooter will try to slow itself down because of the speed limit capped

[@00rdinaryguyy]

hi mate, what did you do for the front tyre? Does it rub against the front mudguard? We can only find spacers for the rear mudguard but not for the front one.

[@VRMinde]

Ord Guy it was slightly touching one corner of the front fender as it was not straight. I heated it a bit and straightened. It is very close but does not rub. Rissians at www.dochello.ru/english?filter=2 used to have spacers. I did not use any

[@Bergwacht]

One nice Information for you: If you buy 10 inch tires, you also get 10 inch tubes. If these break, you don't need to order expensive 10 inch tubes in China, the original 8.5 inch tubes also work perfectly with 10 "tires :)

[@VRMinde]

Bergwacht thanks mate, I was thinking they should expand this much :) My old 8.5 ones looked a bit worn from friction though..

[@Bergwacht]

@@VRMinde My (NEW) Honeycomb Tyres are after 1 month so done like the original tyres are NOT after a year^^

[@VRMinde]

Bergwacht Thanks for sharing. I would expect them to last much longer!

[@walterkersting1362]

Smart; this will be my first mod.

[@VRMinde]

Just be aware that cable with hotmelt might not last too long :)

[@zionbouchris307]

@@VRMinde hi! thanks for the video! where did u find long plastic for the breaks cable?

[@VRMinde]

zion bouchris Hi, I am not sure I understand what are you asking about :D I have not touched the brake line. And the brake-light cable was only fixed with hotmelt 🙄

[@AccordGTR]

Great production...how did you film this while riding??

[@VRMinde]

Thanks man. This, I think, was filmed with my gopro hero7 on a selfie stick/chest mount. I do have now insta 360one R, that allows for even better shots :)

[@danielfonseca7722]

mil gracias! la parte donde explicas cómo evitar que el cable de los frenos roce con la llanta trasera me sirvió muchísimo!

[@VRMinde]

Glad it helped mate!

[@morpheusmatrix7338]

And also, have you tested the speed, does it infact go faster, how is the battery usage compared to the old tires?

[@VRMinde]

It only goes faster if you use the stock firmware, (or roll downhill, or are a very light rider). If I just roll on the flat road without any max speed limiter the final top speed on gps is the same :) And 10” consumes a bit more battery. Ao basically you are loosing acceleration, range and gaining comfort and control on higher speeds, and easier tire replacement when get flat :)

[@cubiq1]

Nice video. How many kms have you done on these tires now? Any flats?

[@VRMinde]

southpaw Thanks mate! I really do not know how many km mate. I did not track it. Most probably not more than 150km. I had one flat almost the next day I have replaced them, but no more flats afterwards :)

[@thedetailingdoctor5746]

Bollocks it ain’t as easy as they all make out try getting the bead to sit right on the 10” tyres is a fucking nightmare as they ain’t the same size internally at all your basically trying to squeeze a smaller inner diameter onto a bigger rim 2 days in and mine still isn’t mounted successfully I’m going back to 8.5s god if I had a puncture this would be ridiculous 😂

[@VRMinde]

I don't have big issues with it. Riding one scooter on 8.5 and another on 10 and both work in their own way :)

[@thedetailingdoctor5746]

@@VRMinde I’d happily ride it with 10” if they actually fit the wheels properly and didn’t sit on the inner bead

[@deamonsnake1985]

Wow. Your videos are perfect. Right duration, funny (wrong side mounting, wrong direction) and as well informative. My head said in 'Spongebob' tone, "a few moments later".... 😂😁 I have Mi Pro 2 in my shopping cart, but still short on money. 😒

[@VRMinde]

Well, I enjoy making vids :) I am really happy to hear you liked it! Mi Pro 2? I guess I need to refresh my knowledge about what's new in scooter market :) Just looked it up, looks like a "facelift" for the pro 1 :)

[@lydiaveldhuizen3157]

Buy it over Ebay. I have got mines from it.

[@lydiaveldhuizen3157]

Its a great idea,...but no I will not do this. Only when I have a flat tire, I will take those without air, saving me all that work again. Woman logica!

[@VRMinde]

Those without air are way more bumpy and have way less grip, especially in the wet conditions :)

[@lydiaveldhuizen3157]

@@VRMinde Thank you, I will Remember that.

[@harryHensum]

@@VRMinde I actually got 9.5 tubeless honeycomb tyres and they are amazing. They also don't interfere with mudguard.

[@VRMinde]

@@harryHensum great! I prefer air in my tires :)

[@blindead7619]

What exact tires are you using mate? (Or which measures?) I have now bought 2 different 10" tires but both leave so much wiggle room that the "lip" of the tire, closest to the rim always protrude about 5 mm on one side, so they doesn't stay fit in the rim but I can't seem to find any answers on either google or YT and I can't be the only one with this headache? Cheers man and thanks for all your awesome videos!😉

[@itziksh3272]

Nice!! There are a links for the parts? Thanks

[@VRMinde]

It is above your comment, in the description mate :) www.thingiverse.com/thing:276... www.thingiverse.com/thing:276...

[@cristif92]

2:50, 4:57 - It happened to me also =))))

[@VRMinde]

Cristian Florescu that is a bit annoying when it happens :D

[@aurelmutea454]

@@VRMinde yeav

[@michaellafebre3951]

These tyres keep getting flats. Unlike the original you can't ride on flat tyres so you must walk.

[@VRMinde]

Michael Lafebre mine are still running :) original 8.5” one already got a new flat... I have heard some good things about the CST tires (8.5”) 🤔

[@michaellafebre3951]

@@VRMinde I already upgraded to a segway max. Once you ride one you won't like the m365 anymore.

[@VRMinde]

Michael Lafebre I have no doubts there are better scooters on the market. Yet M365 is like an old VW Golf - hard to beat it on it’s price level :))

[@austieoutdoors9763]

is the ride height any higher it looks higher i will have to get some 10 inch on my scooter great video

[@VRMinde]

Hi, yes, it is slightly higher and you have to print/buy a spacer for the kick stand as a result of that. I think it is about 1.5cm or so

[@austieoutdoors9763]

@@VRMinde thanx oh i was out last night and my aovo pro frame snapped in half lucky i wasn,t going 20 mph i have another one but i sold one of my ham radio,s lastnight so got a couple of hundred pounds so i might buy a bigger scooter now

[@VRMinde]

@@austieoutdoors9763 😳 I have heard of one guy braking m365, you will be the second one 😂

[@austieoutdoors9763]

@@VRMinde yes very scary it happened just going off a curb so i was lucky got my eye on a g2 pro im getting tomorrow

[@VRMinde]

@@austieoutdoors9763 well mate, happy you did not get injured and you will get a better scooter as well! :)

[@fatimaannsoledad6592]

how do you manage to keep your white scooter looking clean?

[@VRMinde]

I clean it! :) it actualy helps :)

[@talhabey8916]

Great job 👍

[@VRMinde]

Thanks man, appreciate the comment!

[@Hermzkiii]

Faster because of 10inch tire

[@vaiosdiminikos4628]

nah its slower on mine 😂

[@Hermzkiii]

@@vaiosdiminikos4628 maybe your tire is 8.5😂

[@vaiosdiminikos4628]

@@Hermzkiii is 10

[@jameslost7371]

Thanks for the video... this is very informative.

[@VRMinde]

Hello, glad you found it useful mate! :) thanks for the comment

[@KazikFurmanczyk]

What do you think is better for protection, slime or nati puncture tape ?

[@VRMinde]

I have not tried tape. But I would like to. Tape protects from the puncture and slime only deals with consequences (and it does not always work...). You can have both at the same time :)

[@sleepwelllikeababy]

I tried with Slime and it worked.After I bought the xiaomi I had to fix the tires about 2 times in 250 km, and then after slime now I have like 1050km and I had no issue again 'till now. + Add talcum powder between the tire and the chamber to reduce the frictional force between them and keep the pressure of the tires high at 3,5 atm/bar

[@daljeetpopli12]

Hallo bro, What'sup. Can I Q ? Which app Can used For Maps Please tell me.

[@VRMinde]

Singh Daljeet hi! Do I get the Q right? for maps? For maps on iphone I use google maps or maps.me For speed measuring I have used Speedometer and Odometer from the android app store.

[@daljeetpopli12]

@@VRMinde thank you!👍

[@blackpearl9015]

what is name of the tool you use at 2.17minute?

[@VRMinde]

jim L I am sure it is Ratchet in English. With 18mm head

[@oatjuice5921]

Could you put the sizes for the spacer or a 3d model with the measurements in the description?

[@VRMinde]

I am sure I have replied to this comment, but now I can see there is no reply... just a second mate, Youtue comments system is bad.

[@VRMinde]

www.thingiverse.com/thing:2761646 www.thingiverse.com/thing:2761582

[@2Quick2Eazy]

6:12 hello i have been facing problems removing the fender screws because i think I used the wrong bit do you know the size and name of the bit you used thanks .

[@VRMinde]

Hi, I can’t remember now mate. And I have replaced them with other bolts. I could check on my other scooter when I will find some time. But I cant promise to do it today

[@2Quick2Eazy]

VRMinde no problem mate thanks for the reply tho

[@gtone339]

Not even the Pirate youtuber (Xiaomi Pro mod expert) can fit those 10" inch tyres underneath the mud guards lol. You sir just proved otherwise hehe! I have the Xiaomi Pro and that model definitely needs larger tyres or tubeless solution.

[@VRMinde]

gtone339 I saw someone saying that only these tires fit and therefore ordered them for a try :) And it worked :D (with some hot glue for the rear light cable)

[@gtone339]

@@VRMinde This is Pirates attempt on inserting the 10 inch tyres, any advice Private message him hehe! kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3vOmnxtl5V_kLM

[@TheLondonCyclist]

That pirate guy is a con. He advertised merchandise for Chinese sellers. He's a fake.

[@gtone339]

@@TheLondonCyclist I'm 50/50 with his ideas & advertisements but I do enjoy his long-range e-scooter test trial videos.

[@VRMinde]

I have just skimmed through his vid quickly. It seems he used a different tire and on a different scooter. There was a tight gap between the rear part of the front fender and the tire in my case as well. I had to heat and straighten the fender just a tiny bit :) I also saw him drilling the wheel, no need to do that as I have learned it myself by doing it :D

[@alltheboost5363]

Did you use 10x2.125 or a 10x2?

[@VRMinde]

it's 10x2 mate

The only honest video out there, thanks.

[@VRMinde]

Thanks bro, I always try to share my honest opinion :)

[@poppamadison9841]

There's nothing like an honest WTF ! Makes for very entertaining visual and audio consumption ! Does everyone else do 3D printing? WTF is that a normal now in the average home ?

[@VRMinde]

3d printer is like 300 eur, less than the xiaomi scooter :) If you are doing different DIY stuff - you probably try to get a 3D printer at home.

[@oatjuice5921]

Could you put the sizes for the spacer or a 3d model with the measurements in the description?

[@VRMinde]

Here you go, mate! www.thingiverse.com/thing:2761646 www.thingiverse.com/thing:2761582

[@oatjuice5921]

@@VRMinde Thank you! :D

[@happygiraffe9787]

What is the bolt size and lenght at 5:33? :)

[@VRMinde]

Good question :) It is stock one, I did not touch/measure it :)

[@UnPureMaddness]

what are the benefits of changing tires?

[@VRMinde]

UnPureMaddness ammm... less bumpy ride, better grip on full-speed turns. Increase on max speed (only if you ride stock firmware). Easier to mount, more ground clearance :) But you will loose maneuvrability, acceleration and overall agility of the scooter. Decrease in range. No gains on max speed if you use custom firmware.

[@monono954]

Hey, VR. How wide are the M365 motors? I'm interested in using one in another scooter, but I can't find any measurements for how wide the motor is to see if it will fit in the forks.

[@gamerush7117]

How did you manage to mess up the tires twice 😂 great vid anyway

[@VRMinde]

GameRush I don’t know mate :) was asking myself the same :Do

[@gamerush7117]

VRMinde do you know if there is a major difference between m265 and the pro version I’m considering buying the pro but idk if it’s worth spending that much money for slightly better specs

[@VRMinde]

@@gamerush7117 No one can tell if "it is worth it" for you mate. Pro has a larger battery and a bit more powerful motor. Batteries are expensive and it is understandable it costs more. If you can - get the pro... It will go further and faster :)

[@gamerush7117]

VRMinde the thing is is I’m not really bothered with the speed I’m more looking for longer battery life I have looked into getting one of those custome one you can mount onto the base or neck but I’m not sure if I should spend the money

[@VRMinde]

GameRush you can connect a 36v battery with a BMS in parallel without big problems for the range as well.

[@VRMinde]

Just a quick update: I love how those tires ride, but I already got a flat... :D

[@joaomiguelmesquitaescobar6531]

pressure for sure mate, you should keep it really high pressure, around 60 psi, to avoid that flat angryness, also good inner tubes make a huge diference!!! another advice, since you have the tools you should make your brake cable come on the side part of the back not on the same spot you had before, that hot glue will loose the power and you will probably end up without conector (like me :P)

[@VRMinde]

João Miguel Mesquita Escobar hey mate, thanks for advices! I was thinking to change the location of that cable... but I am a bit busy with other things now. I will definitely need to work on it sooner or later. 60psi? I never inlfated tires more than it says on the tire and it says 35 🙄 maybe I should try.

[@joaomiguelmesquitaescobar6531]

@@VRMinde I'll give you even better advice then :) i've done 2000km on my scooter and I had only one flat (yesterday :P)I follow this table very stricktly: 50 - 70kg - Front tire 35 to 40psi - Back 40 to 50psi / 70 - 90kg - Front 40 to 45psi - Back 45 to 55psi 90 - 100kg - Front 45 to 50psi - Back 50 to 60psi +100kg - Front 50 to 55psi - Bakc 60 to 65psi And I'm 95 kg myself so thats why I said 60 psi :P

[@VRMinde]

João Miguel Mesquita Escobar thanks mate, I will give it a try. Interesting fact is that I get way more flats when it is raining. And now it is raining every day for the last 2 months here in DK. I did not have a single flat in summer on none of my 3 scooters :) the same goes with bikes

[@alexsu6872]

@@VRMinde Could that be because the rain cools the tire off and you are actually having lower operating tire pressure? Tires heat up during use(thats why all the tire pressure are labeled as cold tire pressure), and if it is indeed true that lower pressure can give you flat tires....... But I'm not very sure, maybe just one of the possibilities

[@mireazma]

1:42 it's bad omen

[@VRMinde]

It lasted for more than a year 😂

[@mireazma]

@@VRMinde You're the most prompt replier ever in YT history - I've noticed it from the first videos I watched. I respect you for this and also for the substantial information you provide.

[@VRMinde]

@@mireazma haha thanks man! I find that 99% of my viewers are really nice people and quite often I am learning a lot of new things from the comments, so I enjoy reading them and keeping the two-ways communication. Otherwise I feel awkward just talking to my cameras 😂

[@goclunker]

Are the rims the same size as the g30?

[@VRMinde]

Go Clunker I do not know what the g30 is mate :)

[@goclunker]

VRMinde ninebot MAX. G30