Families say HOA drove them out

Some north county families say they were forced to move from their homes or live in fear of retaliation from their homeowner's association.

[@itsasetup8652]

First thing I told my real estate agent: “No HOA”.

[@kimmyymmik]

Its ASetUp same! We got s nice little 1600 sq ft house in a good side of town and no hoa 🙌🏼

[@hurricanefreak101]

Some HOA are very kid friendly - just remember check the rules and meet the board or become part of the board - HOA are wonderful if regulated correctly - CA is a great state that curbs HOAs but Texas - is another story

[@Hambone571]

Luis Camacho Sad thing is...People usually know there is an HOA when purchasing property. Don’t buy property with an HOA. If you do you are rolling the dice and hoping you will never raise the, “boards” or a neighbors ire. If you do, and the HOA makes demand about the rules... Remember, you rolled the dice and now you lost. Also, consider that EVERY TIME a newly elected board becomes in charge, the rules can change.....

[@FISHH00KS]

How many HoA properties did your agent show you anyway? LoL

[@hurricanefreak101]

@@Hambone571 here in California - rule changes must be checked with Attorney or Escrow Board - it’s difficult and when they go bananas the HOA management company usually looses - We worked with an excellent real estate agent who always told us - In California - Escrow process details this - they will usually give you the HOA number to get see if your a good fit - I don’t know about other states but here in CA it’s part of your disclosures - first meeting with Escrow process 3 weeks before mortgage process

[@josephduclos9032]

Never, ever, buy, rent or visit an HOA. They can screw with you and if you sue - you get to pay for their lawyer too through fees.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Joseph Duclos They have no reason to screw with me. I like condo I bought,the rules/bylaws, and community where I live. I don't make noise,no kids,and don't want to change anything. I people are stupid enough to put down several hundred thousand on a condo without reading rules/bylaws and not follow them it's all on them and they might as well move.

[@BungieStudios]

Amen. Fuck HOAs. People that have no control over their lives get a tiny bit of power and try to control how others live. You buy a house to have a bit of independence. To leave your parents, raise your own family, and escape landlords and roommates. Then HOAs manage to insert themselves into your life and you're back to square one. They march you around like the little Commies they are, smiling, taking your money, telling you how to live, and promising your property value will skyrocket when you are ready to sell. Fuck that.

[@Nelphoto]

Dealing with that now.

[@sassycat6487]

BlackWorldTraveler not all HOA are like communist leaders but some are and you never know how your HOA will be when you are buying a home with one. You got lucky, but some people get horrible HOA and have their lives turned upside down

[@stuart3712]

They cant make you pay for their lawyer fee's... They can try and sue you with a counter suit but they wont get it for that reason alone... They will need a good reason for a counter suit or they wont have a case because judges will toss out any small petty case like that because your lawyer can always fight the counter and drag the court even longer. If they ever do that and get it, then the judge was paid off and or your attorney sucks really bad. If you speak the truth then they must of had a good reason and proof of you wasting their time and cost for no good reason.

[@haokieto0]

once upon a time, kids playing outdoor is encouraged. and mentally healthy.

[@simon6071]

Forget about reading the rule of no kids playing in the common area in the CC&R. Most likely, it is not in the CC&R. The HOA may just put a notice on the notice board for a couple of days saying, for example, Parents allowing children to play in the common area with excessive noise are subjected to a fine of $100. Then the HOA thinks that's the law of the land. What pisses me off is that quite a few times we were disturbed by extreme loud car alarm that went on for as long as half an hour both in day time and at around 9 pm but the HOA never talked about it nor did it make any rule to impose a fine on the car owners responsible for the annoying car alarm. I have just expressed my discontent about this absurd situation to the HOA.

[@nerdgeekcosplay909]

@Jamey Lane once upon a time toddlers weren’t given tablets and phones to shut them up.

[@bartholomewlunt3347]

Oh you just know these people bitch about kids always being on screens

[@frankyflowers]

those mentally healthy kids grew up and changed the culture so they weren't that great.

[@Eclipse1369]

I’m guessing there’s more to this story. I assume the family dominated the common area and were most likely loud. Kids will be kids and it should be encouraged. However, I think it’s important for people to live in appropriate neighborhoods. Meaning, people who don’t like to be around other noisy people shouldn’t be in packed condo or townhouse settings. On the other hand, people with gaggles of kids probably should be where there is a yard or more room to be kids. People just need to be more self aware.

[@PunkMartyr]

My grandmother had Narcissistic Personality Disorder. She would call police on her neighbors for anything - outdoor party, kids playing, someone driving too fast. She got enjoyment out of messing with people. These are the people typically on HOA boards. I have many more stories i’m leaving out.

[@PuntaPacifica507]

Yikes

[@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia]

my mom was like that too. i knew a guy a while back who had horror stories about his dad from his childhood. he was retired and his entire ambition became to lead the HOA board. these people are BATSHIT.

[@kaecake9575]

"It's called The American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." -George Carlin

[@rodmcdonald4707]

Why would anyone buy property with an HOA ?

[@finris1]

HOA's are usually found in large planned communities. These are usually safer for families, and have more consistency in the quality of the homes. Dealing with annoying regulations is just the price for that.

[@MusicG33k]

Also for those who plan on investing in your bought home where the property value is concerned. Value won't be as great if your neighbor isn't caring about his home as much as another who cares.

[@johns3491]

I know. It's basically paying to own the apartment experience, and you're still paying "rent" in the form of HOA fees and taxes.

[@ROTAXD]

Justin Hanson that old argument has been proven false time and again. You people act as if every neighborhood outside of an hoas control has sevral of "those" thpes of neighbors (unkempt lawns, derelict cars, moonshine still in the front yard etc.). Homes in hoa neighborhoods gain valur (aka: appreciate) at a far slower rate than those in an independent neighborhood.

[@abigailmoore5691]

The city I live in, you either live in an HOA or you live in the dangerous high-crime area of town.

[@ENRIQUELOPEZ-ve1hk]

Been in an HOA community only once, and I will never ever buy a home in another HOA community!! They are abusive, overpowering, senseless, and in many cases, discriminatory!!

[@SLi-pr8vv]

absolutely agree with you. the HOAs, are cancer cells in communities.

[@emiltoshev2950]

I feel the same way about HOA .

[@PastaSausta]

Extremely discriminatory

[@worddunlap]

An HOA began where my mom lived and they wanted her to become a member, pay dues (for nothing but their rules) and OBEY their edicts. One day a fat man who was the 'king' threatened her. She threw them off her property, got retraining orders, issued trespass warnings and advised the others being bullied to do the same. She beat them in court, in public opinion and within weeks the GOA gang was begging for mercy. Later it came out they were using fees to pay for parties and improvements to their own properties.

[@babylongonz1733]

These were condos.

[@VisualizeHealing]

Good for you mom!!!

[@GoogleIsAPieceOfSh1t]

I'm glad your mom put that Boss-Hog in his place!

[@Happypucks]

Yep the American way

[@brettweltz8135]

My father, and a bunch of his friends started an HOA the difference being yes you had certain policies you had to follow. However, they also included lawn care and gardening service pest control, pool treatment, as well as exterior house cleaning included in the HOA due the community was very close, and if someone wasn’t following, the rules, neighbors would go up to them and say directly. Hey, you really shouldn’t do that Try to fix it. once my father and his friends left and other people took over the HOA it all fell apart

[@kennithgeorge6520]

My daughter’s HOA threatened to fine her $500 every my grandson played outside. Once HOA realized my daughter’s knowledge of the Fair Housing Act, they backed off.

[@lauraricabal4995]

Outside in the house backyard or out in the street?

[@amethystflower8799]

I hope she kept the little turd under control and didn't let it Bother anyone

[@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia]

these ppl are satanic

[@sassycat6487]

I lived in a HOA with my parents and it was a NIGHTMARE. They are very evil and money hungry. I'm not even joking. We were so quiet and never caused trouble and yet they would constantly send us penalty letters for made up stuff we didn't do. And you have to pay it or get kicked out of your own home. They think they own every house and the 'owners' are under their authority. I will never ever buy a house with an HOA.

[@TheCosplayerMokaHetalia]

Sue them I know I would

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

The Cosplayer Moka Can’t sue with lies.

[@sphinxrising1129]

I call bullshit. First of all, any complaint has to be verifiable & well documented. So, if anyone is lying, it is you obviously.

[@rocblack5241]

@@sphinxrising1129 how do you know you sumbih

[@babylongonz1733]

The video is about condo HOAs.

[@LoverOfSesshy]

The kids behind my house scream at the top of their lungs when they play outside. I would prefer that i didn’t have to hear it but then I remember how much fun I had playing outside with friends as a kid and then I get over it. It’s part of life, let kids be kids. So what if there is noise outside.

[@screenarts]

Yes, that is a healthy community with happy playing childern.

[@Amir-ti9pv]

Yes you should move if you don't like it kids take priority

[@cluelessmayne629]

@@Amir-ti9pv or you can control your fucking kids

[@tamlynn786]

My kids can be noisy too even in the house. I tell them to tone it down and that last all of 30 seconds lol. But seriously when I get annoyed I think of them having to be at school all day, where they are required to sit down and be quiet. Kids need an outlet to run and play and yes be loud sometimes.

[@tamlynn786]

@@calliet My kids don't get recess at school so try again dipshit. Luckily I don't live in a HOA around people like you. My kids are free to play and roam so cry harder weirdo.

[@managingmonasmoula9811]

I will never buy a home in an HOA community again! They will fine you and harass you at every opportunity as this is what happened to me. I learned the hard way. Never again!

[@johnbanks47]

I paid the mortgage, taxes, HOA dues but were not allowed to grow some roses. Hence the HOA owns the house not the people paying the bills. So we moved and no HOA and we can grow flowers if we want to or not. I finally feel like a home owner.

[@fuzzythinker3533]

Still yet another reason to not live with an HOA.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

David Parker Actually a good reason for me to live in that condo community.

[@shawntravelstheworld911]

NEVER BUY A HOME WITH A HOMEOWNERS DICTATORSHIP!!!!!

[@michaelasebedo8392]

HOA need to be outlawed or need to be SEVERELY monitored by both local and state authorities !

[@vellbariaofficial]

HoAs needed to be illegal

[@bwayne965]

Just outlaw the HOAs

[@ashleyhartford6048]

Never ever buy home with HOA

[@TalenGryphon]

Aaand this is why the mere existence of an HOA in an area is a serious red flag for me. Too much power given to a handful of petty, narcissistic people. As to the family in the newscast? Move to a more working class neighborhood. Seriously. There's fewer stuck-up snobs, and as I'm typing this I can hear the local kids playing in the park right behind my home. Plus it's cheaper. ...Just don't move in with the intention of moving the place "Up market". That attitude only ruins things. As demonstrated in this video

[@vellbariaofficial]

So fkin true!!!!!

[@marinemccord1059]

We were fined and had to fight our case because we repainted the deck and they said it was the wrong color. Turned out, it was just a brighter white because we had painted more recently than any other owner. HOA are all about the 💰

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Marine McCord Never occurred to you to read the rules and bylaws and just ask for the color key? I did this just last week. Went and asked and they even gave me the paint I needed. Nothing really complicated.😂😂😂😂

[@7s29]

@@blackworldtraveler3711 Yeah, because one must follow the rules.

[@zachreese6540]

Reading must be hard for you, champ

[@ABCblahblahblah]

Don't you all think the BIGGER issue at hand is how ANYONE can have that kind of power to tell you what color to paint your on damn deck????

[@michaelcoffey8404]

Does anyone think these parents are just bad parents and their kids are out of control. I don’t think their idea of “just being kids” is the same as mine. I’m a father of four btw

[@Johnl1800]

The lawsuit won't go anywhere and here's why. HOA attorneys love conflict and lawsuits because lawsuits equals more money. The HOA has much deeper pockets and can afford a lengthy and expensive lawsuit. The former residents will likely have to cut their losses at some point because of the increasing expense of fighting an HOA that they no longer live in anyway. Believe me I know from from first hand experience. At the HOA where we used to live things got so out of control that we could have easily filed a civil suit against the Board members for defamation and harassment. Ultimately it wasn't worth the time, hassle and expense. Instead we led a recall effort that saw the entire Board removed after which we decided we had had enough of HOA life and moved to a non-HOA neighborhood. HOA's are an abomination that should be banned.

[@fashiondiva6972]

This is a very wrong assessment in this instance. Because this is a federal Fair Housing Act case. It’s not a simple state HOA issue. They’re subject to federal investigation and serious repercussions to include licensure, HOA disbanding and a host of others. I know. I’ve helped prosecute several right next door in NV😁

[@margaritaflores1587]

Johnl1800 b

[@lizgawin899]

@@fashiondiva6972 uh, once i made a joke in another video about HOAs claiming it was their 'right' to just barge into peoples houses and how such claims could get them as a criminal i.e. human trafficking/porn/drug trafficking, conspiracy, and i got a response from someone who took my joke seriously. kinda got me wondering though: if lawyers took my joke, cause that's all it was, seriously and pursued the charges what would happen.

[@emiltoshev2950]

@@fashiondiva6972 Would you be able to help us out with all the issues we have been having with HOA for many years

[@emiltoshev2950]

@@fashiondiva6972 Would you mind helping out with so many issues we having with HOA?

[@ivjr1]

Sounds like a Squidward neighborhood.

[@Nemofishman]

Tentacle Acres aka NY Avenue in their version of Monopoly.

[@mrsyoungdolph3755]

Some folks can't manage their kids.. nobody wants all that noise all the time

[@user-fz6qv4ve8v]

That's true. I see the same thing in restaurants. These parents, who are used to hearing their kids screaming and yelling all the time don't care if they do it while you are trying to enjoy your meal.

[@ryanlesner4716]

When you receive a lease you can take that lease to your lawyer and edit out sections you disagree with. If your lease states that you can be evicted for not paying HOA fines or fees. You are perfectly with in your rights to have that entire section removed from the lease. I have removed HOA clauses from leases, lowered the monthly payment and had the community leasing agent sign the edited lease without reading it. So if I can get away with it so can you. Don't take any shit from an HOA.

[@JohnMiller-oz7gv]

Good advice.

[@mikeschiavoni5973]

You can dissolve hoas as well. I want to start a turn key business doing just that.

[@marylout5193]

@@mikeschiavoni5973 need help?

[@KayDejaVu]

@@mikeschiavoni5973 Dissolve How? In court when you sue? The HOA can remove you if you don't comply with their rules and you don't pay fees.

[@mikeschiavoni5973]

@@KayDejaVu ussually its 60-80% of the residents vote to disolve the hoa. It has to get pretty bad for that to happen but its a healthy part of every hoa.

[@user-eu2me4bp7j]

As someone who has lived next to kids that were terrors and parents that couldn’t have cared less I’d be interested in hearing the other side of the story.

[@waynegordon6385]

My family and I live in a beautiful SAFE and clean subdivision with no HOA. This is an absolute BLESSING from GOD.

[@marklangkamp3151]

Fined for garage door left open for about 15 min, fined for my grandchild leaving a toy truck left in the grass while he came in for lunch, fined for my motorcycle being to noisy in my garage. Never again will I live in a HOA Community they can kiss my white behind. I sold the place to a biker buddy of mine he knew about the problems I had and he’s having a great time they even have tried to buy the place, besides he has club meetings at the little hall swimming pool place.

[@MLPIceberg]

I hope he's giving them hell. HOAs need to go away.

[@aprilfisher4947]

Great!

[@kathysalkeldbonilla6541]

NEVER, EVER buy a property with a HOA.

[@terryhorsley1012]

I grew up in the suburbs and if we screamed or shouted we were told to knock it off because we respect our neighbors.

[@davem5333]

Kids play. When they are having fun they make noise. Fact of life. Live with it.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Dave M Need to stay out of HOAs and have them live where they can scream all they want.

[@JustAroundtheHorizon]

Parents knew what they were signing up for. In order to live where the parents want to live, they need to discipline their kids or move out. Really no reason for a bunch of girls to run out of their home screaming every time a team makes a point.

[@aa-ng4ot]

JustAroundtheHorizon exactly! no one enjoys screaming kids . they need to Control their damn children.

[@GotLotsaFaith]

Wrong. Kids need to be managed. I guarantee you no one likes to hear ongoing screaming kids when trying to enjoy peace in their own home, this side also needs to be looked at and is also a a Fact Of Life...

[@darthsailormoon4831]

+ Dave M No it's called shit parents being shit parents. Get your shitty facts straight. If you can't learn to control your own kids and learn to teach them the basics of respect then you shouldn't be allowed to have kids.

[@icecat516]

I never side with HOAs but this one I do. If it says kids shouldn’t make excessive noise then don’t move into those areas. The neighbors have right to peace.

[@jdrs4214]

Home owners’s associations are a bunch of nazis!!! I wouldn’t like it if some jack hole in a fancy suit and a Mont Blanc come up to me and tell me how tall I need to cut my lawn, what color I need to paint my fence, what type of fence I need to build, how low I need to keep the decibel level down, what vehicles I need to park in my driveway, or put in my backyard to fix or maintain. This is supposed to be America, not some dipshit country with an oppressive government. We had supposedly defeated those AHs in May of 1945 for a good reason. …but I see that the enemy has slowly crept from the ashes, and has slithered, and infiltrated this country, because we have allowed it after all those years. You shouldn’t support them PERIOD!!!!! Be ashamed of yourself!!!!

[@t.m.8618]

I SOLD MY BEAUTIFUL HOME IN SIMI VALLEY CA....BECAUSE THE HOA HARASSED ME OVER TREES IN MY OWN BACKYARD TREES THAT HAD BEEN THERE FOR 15 YRS BEFORE I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THEY WERE RETIRED COPS!! AFTER I MOVED OUT TWO OTHER FAMILIES ALSO SOLD AND MOVED THEY WERE HARASSED BECAUSE THEY HAD YOUNG CHILDREN.

[@brianperry4815]

Been there done that. Got out 15 years ago. I live in the country now where I can live how I want and no one bothers me. I,d rather live in a trailer park then an HOA area.

[@marisataylor8287]

I understand why they this happened. I lived in an HOA community and the kids were a constant problem mostly because none of them were being monitored and allowed to do what they wanted which included running in front of people who were driving intentionally. They climbed trees and fences in the common area and even stole packages and vandalized property. And this was a nice community.

[@murkypuddle33]

ok karen

[@marilynwillett804]

@@murkypuddle33 Oh so she's a karen for not wanting her things stolen??

[@murkypuddle33]

@@marilynwillett804 ok karen

[@danadigiantomasso8945]

You are probably a liar with nothing better to do than hate children who are allowed to play outside! I'm dealing with neighbors like you, in my HOA. Kids should be allowed to play OUTSIDE!

[@xollyxolly3234]

If you had hood rats for neighbors then I understand, but if its families with well behaved kids then I wouldn't be so bitchy about it. There should be apartments and neighborhoods for childfree and petfree people. If you don't like it. Then make is known that families with kids and pets cannot move there.

[@peggybaby0894]

"Peaceful enjoyment of the property" usually pertains to after noise ordinance hours. My understanding anyway. If you want a retirement community then move there.

[@sharonburke100]

No, it doesn't. It is meant to address people who don't consider the impact noise makes on others. Nobody forced them to live in an HOA. I have lived in them for years, with kids and had no trouble. My son had 11 friends in our little HOA. They had a park set aside for them to play. I made sure of where they could play etc., before buying.. They played football, baseball, basketball. We had their parties there. They just hung out there. When they wanted to get rowdy, it was in the park. If it ever got too loud for more than 5 minutes, one of the mom's or dad's would call out and ask them to quiet down. They did. Yes, the PARENTS did it!!! What a concept!!! Those kids are still friends today - from age 5 to age 30. ALL of them have the fondest memories of our neighborhood. They loved growing up there. It's up to YOU to decide if your kids have enough space to play before you buy in an HOA. If your kids are extremely LOUD, they probably should not live in an HOA. Everyone would be happier if they didn't.

[@GSutton]

@@sharonburke100 you obviously didn't pay attention to the video - these rules weren't in place when they bought their units. That's the thing with HOAs - they can make up any rule they like at any time.

[@mrsduns1]

@@sharonburke100 idiot

[@Hboogie182]

HOA is communism.

[@flashoflight8160]

I want the other side of the story. My gut feeling is that these kids are out of control. There is a reasonable person standard for how loud kids can be when playing and it varies depending on if it's at the HOA playground vs the common area near the garages or the actual townhouse. Would you want screaming kids outside of your bedroom window down in the garage area while on a Zoom work meeting? These parents are what we would call Karens in modern lingo and they should GTFO.

[@mikeschiavoni5973]

Lol, you are so distorted and hollow you dont realize it.

[@user-kq1nk2zu1q]

Then go over and politely talk to the parents! Don’t hide anonymously behind the HOA! That is so rude and cowardly.

[@Dentalman87]

I feel bad for the family but I’m wondering how loud those kids were. Yes kids get loud but for how long? I use to live next door to a family of 5. They were always loud and it was worst when they had other kids over. Just constant noise. Even at night. Even the dad looked miserable. He would sit outside in the back after work while his kids ran through the house. You could hear them from outside. Constant yelling and screaming.

[@PronatorTendon]

When you want to blame someone for this, look in the mirror. We are the ones who have allowed this environment to exist

[@mts4428]

Yup, really to keep others out. Now backfire .

[@701delbronx8]

@@mts4428to keep black people out

[@quinnjim]

I have kids. I don't let them scream at the top of their lungs outside other peoples houses. Control your kids. Teach them to be considerate.

[@Tangent360]

You're a good neighbor and I'm betting you don't get any complaints either. Something tells me "screaming at the top of their lungs" is a much more accurate description than "cheering" for their teams goal in this video but it's a much better story if the evil HOA is driving out a happy family that isn't doing anything wrong...

[@heidijkeil]

It almost sounds like a retirement community with how nasty they are about kids being outside being kids.

[@mj-rg9kp]

It is a retirement community where old communists harass their neighbors until death stops them.

[@AFanOfCinema]

Yeah. Boomers like them have ruined the country

[@VisualizeHealing]

If it was a retirement community then having loud and rambunctious kids probably wasn't a good fit for the majority of residents.

[@rossellaperry6467]

Honestly what neighbors want to hear kids screaming and playing in front of their property. What do you think parks are for ?

[@AFanOfCinema]

@@rossellaperry6467 Neighborhoods are also places for kids to play in. It's more convenient than having to drive far out to go to a park

[@snorkosaurus]

Kids can be extremely noisy, I'm in the 10th floor and when I have window open in summer some scream so loud I can't focus on work, imagine what it's like on the first or second floor...

[@zachreese6540]

The horror...

[@chasingamurderer]

Screaming kids are rude, and the parents didn't care. They created their problem

[@blueandwhite363]

If you don't like the sound of screaming kids having fun, then move elsewhere, you fool!

[@chasingamurderer]

If you researched they encourage their kids to scream to irritate neighbors .

[@blueandwhite363]

​@@chasingamurderer Obviously the kids got too close to the neighbor's house. That is just as bad as following another car too close while driving.

[@surferdude44444]

People with lots of four kids, like this story reports, really should not be living in the tight confines of a townhouse community. They should be in an single family home in a neighborhood/residential area.

[@ecclairmayo4153]

Exactly. People shoould live in communities that fit them and their families, not try to change ones that are already there. They agreed to the rules and then complained because they want an exception when it doesnt suit them anymore

[@user-kq1nk2zu1q]

As if they could afford that…

[@FISHH00KS]

"we all know kids make noise" So why does someone else need to tell you your kids are too loud?

[@marilynwillett804]

wow great response.

[@lyndagruen2047]

The problem with seeking to address matters with an HOA is that doing so often ends up consuming a good bit of time, emotional energy and money. HOAs are generally not worth it, in my opinion.

[@stafonvoncamron]

Kids are loud. Not everyone likes hearing loud kids all day. Same with you can't play loud music or your neighbors will call the cops on you for disturbing the peace..

[@reemagee4828]

Stáfon Von Caḿron That's how I feel about animals. No one wants to hear your damn dog barking it's head off all day night!

[@sassycat6487]

If you guys hate kids and animals then move to a rural area on your own land. Otherwise, stop being whiny brats.

[@reemagee4828]

@Jen Lee Can you read? I never wrote that I hated kids or animals. Furthermore, you're assuming that I don't live in a rural area or own my own land smh. I will continue to be a whiny brat as you put it and you can continue to be a fucktard.

[@sassycat6487]

@veronica carlson how about if you hate kids, you move to a retirement community! Simple! There's loads of loud kids in my neighborhood.. and you know what? I'm thankful to those parents for forcing their kids to go outside and be KIDS instead of being glued to their computers and iPads and iPhones!!

[@jborrego2406]

Jeni L stop being entitled u choose to have kids not me . Now do want me a nurse to come to work taking care of u when I’m a zombie cause I can’t sleep in day

[@vivianblack2951]

What happened to the days when you would mow a neighbours lawn when they went into hospital? I didn't get my mower for 2 weeks (on order). In the meantime, someone mowed the front lawn for me. Thanks, neighbour and I hope I can do the same for you one day.

[@notme3252]

I have an awesome neighbor like this!!

[@johnnybravo515]

Reminds me of my neighbors who stay up late at night setting off fireworks and get surprised when someone calls the police on them for it and they react surprised...

[@sloaiza81]

they must no be PC American Karens. In most of the world, we go out and talk with neighbors before calling the police.

[@andyt2k]

That's not the same at all, fireworks at 2am and kids playing in the yard at 2pm aren't even close to the same

[@diannejames984]

@@andyt2k Agree 100%!

[@babylongonz1733]

@@sloaiza81 Why get out of bed when you can just pickup your cell phone.

[@aracelimalone1167]

Some neighbors are inconsiderate!!! My neighbor plays very loud music when she arrives to her house at odd hours then sits in her car for 30mins replaying “her jam” I once walked outside and asked her to turn it down please, her reply “ Are you gunna make me! I can do whatever I want!” the whole neighborhood can hear her music. She’s a renter hopefully she’ll move soon.

[@positivevibes5364]

Some HOAS do too much its ridiculous

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

positive vibes It’s called “you can’t afford it”

[@miscprojects9662]

Crazy how many times someone has to be told to shut their kids up.

[@ditaduarte2049]

Some parents let their kids run wild. I'm glad they got fined.

[@justin9202]

Okay you can f*** right the hell off. The kids did nothing wrong. The parents did manage them. This is blatant discrimination against parents

[@lynn.d1015]

Kids and HOA do not mix .

[@sayitaintso7544]

The closer you get to a city the more youre likely to live in a subdivision. Dont do it! Sometimes its worth the commute to live in a more rural area for your peace of mind and free from HOA torment. A house where you have a few acres and can hardly see your neighbor from the porch is a beautiful thing.

[@selanryn5849]

Not everyone wants to spend 3 hours a day sitting in traffic and fuel to be a major line item in their budget.

[@mordakie3805]

@@selanryn5849 It’s a lie anyway HOAs are just as abundant outside of the city

[@vanessashaw6912]

When you think about it..Because HOA's are not answerable to anyone but themselves. That is a recipe for power hungry...strong armed tactics based on petty prejudices or preferences. A little power... instilled in a little person can be potentially destructive. After all when are they ever going to get another opportunity to "rule"?

[@quiltmomma5157]

“Quiet, private.” That’s what the other homeowners bought into the HOA for. If you don’t want to abide by the HOA, don’t buy a house there. If you do, don’t complain about the rules.

[@billybeemus3929]

The complex is obviously NOT an over-55 area which expressly excludes children so children are allowed. The people living there need to put up with them - at least during the daytime. These families will win the lawsuit.

[@alisonb9963]

These types of parents are oblivious to the noise/disturbances kids make when playing. They should not be screaming and running amok. This is why you take your kids to a park to play. I totally get this. Nobody wants to hear brats running around. It's common sense and the HOA is totally right on this front. Kid's don't belong in Condos/Apartments. Having your brats running outside screaming is SO rude.

[@ScreamTatumRiley]

White ppl are so entitled

[@kristawelch3821]

Yes and no. Planned communities usually have designated play areas away from the living units. There is no reason for your child to be screaming right under someone else's window. They said that there were parks and such nearby...that's a perfectly appropriate place for noise.

[@ecclairmayo4153]

Exactly. They said there were parjs, so why dont they use them? They agreed to these rules when they purchased, but now that it doesnt suit them anymore they want exceptions. They should jist move to a community where it fits them. Nobody wants to hear screaming and squealing kids outside their window everytime something happens on TV.

[@robertmatthews2009]

Never, never, never buy a home with a homeowners association. Ever.

[@lauriem4112]

In college I rented a room in a townhouse. I was told to tell neighbors I was a cousin because a neighbor wanted to know who I was to the owners. The homeowners were harrassed by hoa for the baby crying or the mom putting a ninja turtle window cling in the baby's window or kids toys on balcony. Totally ridiculous.

[@babylongonz1733]

They lived there knowing the rules. Even you lied.

[@secondchance6603]

@@babylongonz1733 I'm guessing your solution to keeping a crying baby quiet would be to smother it with a pillow 🙄

[@netking66]

@@secondchance6603 ... then live in accommodation more strictly controlled than by a HOA.

[@secondchance6603]

@@netking66 The last thing I'm for is stricter control over what I can or cannot do on my own property, how you got that from my comment is beyond me.

[@babylongonz1733]

@@secondchance6603 I know how to read the rules and bylaws before buying and not into lying. Also always avoided single mothers and their baggage since high school so wouldn’t know much about that type.

[@iivv_nn]

They have like 7 girls. I'm sure hearing one side of the story won't tell how loud they actually are.

[@andyt2k]

They had a group over to watch some sports

[@aliciamelendez5476]

To the HOA in this video: If you do NOT like families with kids, then why don't you just state that you do NOT want kids living there on your paperwork.

[@wclark3196]

First impression is that this seems like a good place to live. It respects the rights of all residents to quiet enjoyment of their homes. Second, these people are lying. If they just wanted to resolved their case, they'd just go to court. The only reason to call TV is to try to wage PR war, hoping to gain some advantage. The HOA can't discuss the details because of privacy regulations, but these people are free to lie all they want on TV and face no penalties. Third, 1:40, the woman says that the demand to "cure the problem" meant getting rid of the children. She's clearly misrepresenting the reality, which is to have the kids play inside, not play in the common areas (liability issues) and teach them to monitor and maintain their noise level when playing in the yard. That she is deliberately misrepresenting a reasonable request strongly suggests she's lying. Finally, their lawyer is full of shit, you know, because he's looking for a fat payday.

[@DeezNutzzzzzzzzzzz]

I remember one time a weed was sticking out on to the sidewalk and they didn’t warn me but instead sent me a letter saying I’ve been fined for $50 for that one weed lose to the sidewalk. HOA are a fucking nightmare

[@robertwhite9898]

That’s absurd

[@freshcofreshco9811]

I moved from a house , because of the same evil malicious tactics. Im glad they are suing.

[@Nevernormal790]

I love kids but some often are a nightmare because parents don't educate kids, instead shove technology down their throats as substitute. Last year I had to complain because it was 3am and the kid was running all over the place and parents were watching tv like nothing is happening. I went upstairs and told them dudeee its 3 am have your kid stop running in the apt at this time, I have an in home test tomorrow at 9 am. Guess what at 9 am they had their kid make more noise same as them just to annoy me. Teach your kids to behave for Gods sake, there a place and time

[@bobbachelor5930]

Select gated communities should be designated as no children zones.

[@Wow_wow1]

I am not defending the HOA(I hate them with a passion), but funny enough I lived in San Diego which is near the area in the video with very similar laid out neighborhood. The way the building and the “common” area is set up, the echoes are very profound. I can only imagine if bunch of kids are screaming their lungs out and always playing with toys, it would drive the other neighbors crazy! One time, when I was walking my dog, I noticed that one of my neighbors were getting it on. I guess they had their window slightly open and the moaning was echoing throughout the street lol. Very difficult to be ignored. High five to that couple!

[@thesilverstackingbotinc.1928]

I live in a HOA who feels like most people do. Kids should play, however, if they go screaming out side your house, that's total bullshit. I had to deal with this shit for over a year. HOA did nothing about it. The guards did nothing about it. I was happy as hell when they moved out. I'm now buying that home. And loud ass kids are not welcomed.

[@Charlesinfinite]

I lived in an HOA. Absolute nightmare! The board is very corrupt. I would rather goes homeless than ever live in an HOA again.

[@tbrwn2548]

They need a house with a few yards for all those kids. The townhomes are on top of each other

[@INOOT-INeedOneOfThose]

Facts! All that sound of play and merriment is bouncing off of the buildings. It's about as pleasant as a dog constantly barking.

[@rowboyto156]

Sue them, this aint arizona

[@msmith8966]

If the children are watching a sports show on tv indoors why on earth would they all run outside to cheer? Makes no sense, it sounds like they were all just being deliberately provocative when they were already aware they were supposed to keep noise levels down. Perhaps the parents directed this in preparation for the last.

[@FairBeautyEssentials]

The neighbor, who screamed at the children should also receive the same warnings and the same threats for making noises by screaming at the children. Fair is fair.

[@amethystflower8799]

Umm were you there?

[@narcissenot]

The kids ran outside to scream when a goal was made. You don't live on 5 acres you live in a close quarters community. Apparently you did not have a full grasp of HOA bylaws or they couldn't have forced issue.

[@ducheau100]

people with kids need to remember other people exist. When the noise becomes excessive then the HOA's should take action.

[@helenmak5663]

There should be other side of the story. People living in close proximity should be respectful to the peace and quietness of the neighborhood. Kids can play in the park, there should be no blasting music and loud parties. People prefer quietness and it is never too much.

[@videosrus8631]

I wish our HOA took a similar view about noisy neighbours. We are surrounded by barking/howling dogs and the HOA say there is nothing they will do about it. They refused to even drop a polite note to the relevant dog owners. When I went round to see our neighbour about his dog (it was almost midnight & it was still at it), I was verbally abused and he (the neighbour not the dog) deliberately broke our mailbox, costing us over $300 to replace it. The police came out but wouldn't do anything unless we pressed charges. We declined as it would have cost us even more in the long run. Our HOA is more concerned about the colour of residents' lawns than anything else. They are against artificial turf (there is a water shortage where we live) and solar energy (their opposition to which goes against federal law).

[@ecclairmayo4153]

Thats awful! Thats why i always tell our property manager from the property management company we pay our dues to, that she must be the mediator and send noticed herself. She must confront neighbors, even though she tried to wiggle out of doing that by asking us to. What sre we paying her to do, then? Do she now does that because going to talk to your neighbors always ends badly. She also sends someone to check oit our properties and she enforcess our bylaws. Barking dogs and loud kids are a nuisancem we email her everytime with a complaint. So staying on top of her making sure she does her job is most important first or the HOA thing doesnt work.

[@Livetoeat171]

There is no charge for pressing charges against someone

[@rustyshackelford3371]

@@Livetoeat171 EXACTLY. What is this fool talking about?

[@nightrun17vr23]

I’m so glad I live outside a hoa they wanted to join because my house is so close to a gated community and threatened me if I didn’t good think my high school best friends was the country judge and helped me but here’s some advice there is a lot better places to raise your children beside these housing developments and if you do live in a development with a hoa sell your home as fast as you can and give a copy of the bylaws to realators so they now most of the time hoa’s don’t give them a copy also tell your neighbors what’s going on the more people leave the faster they change the rules

[@indokeren3311]

We bought a brand new house gated community. The first 2 months we moved in we got a letter from HOA that we couldn't park our car on the street right in front of our house. Then we another letter came in the mail, we couldn't park in own our driveway. They said we have to park our cars in the garage only.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

INDO KEREN Many of you aren’t very smart when buying a home and don’t do due diligence. Just the gates should have given you a clue.

[@mattrost2574]

Both sides have good arguments. Was this property listed as family friendly or adult? Didn't the bylaws specifically mention loud outdoor activities? If so, were the hours listed? THis story had too-few facts and too much emotion.

[@PastorGatorcoot]

Where can I find child free communities?

[@mida8261]

55+ communities.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Pastor Gatorcoot You have the 50-55+ communities. I just chose more expensive strict condo community away from schools and not child friendly.

[@jstarr7506]

+Pastor Gatorcoot Florida?

[@anastasiab9506]

I for one would like to hear the other side of the story. HOA can be ridiculous, but just how loud were the kids?

[@chanskysimeon9222]

So that’s a damn events so what kid make nose

[@knittingnana2939]

There was a column in the paper where i lived written by a housing attorney. You could write in and ask him questions. 90% of the questions were complaints about hoas and asking what could be done. His answer was always the same: get a copy of the bylaws and covenants and if what youre complaining about is in those bylaws and covenants and you signed them (which you have to do before you buy your house ) then you have no recourse because you agreed to them.

[@ecclairmayo4153]

Exactly! Everybody likes and agrees with the bylawas until it doesnt suit them anymore. People should live in comunities that fit their families because these bylaws must be enforced so everyone can keep that aesthetic they liked when they purchased. If you dont agree, dont sign saying that you do.

[@Livetoeat171]

Our HOA had one set of rules when we moved in but they've had board meetings and a change of directors and they change the rules so just because you signed the first rules doesn't mean that they won't change the rules.

[@larrymc2601]

Exactly right.

[@ermamilspaugh]

@@Livetoeat171 exact same thing happened to our neighborhood, most the people who lived there a long time have moved out , the newer ones think this is how it’s always been

[@rexmonarch2]

Back in 2003 I worked as a 'groundskeeper' for two years at an HOA community in Laguna Niquel CA. I was hired by a friend of mine who had purchased a townhouse in the community. She got onto the landscaping committee and she wanted to turn the community into a 'pesticide and herbicide safe zone.' Anyway, little did she know that a realtor was purchasing townhouses using straw-buyers and flipping them. The realtor didn't want the community to be a 'pesticide and herbicide safe zone.' She wanted full-on spraying. Anyway, a sort of mini-war broke out between my friend and the realtor with both ladies lining up homeowners on their side of the arguement. The realtor had her clique march around the community with signs like "He's not spraying' and 'He's destroying our property values" -- he being me. My friend had her followers marching with signs like "They want to kill the bees" and "spraying is toxic to your pets." Finally, things got so bad that there was recall election against my friend -- and she lost. I was immediately fired and my friend was hounded out of the community by the opposition folks. But what really made her move was the day after I was fired a company came in and sprayed the heck out of the community. Guys were walking around in haz-mat outfits with long hoses and using spray marked with blue dye to spray everywhere. The place looked some kind of blue-dyed warzone after they got through. My friend put her townhouse up for sale and got out there as fast as she could.

[@kel7588]

Your friend was most certainly the intelligent one in that community. Would be interesting to see the stats on medical issues incurred in that sector. It is always astounding how many folk's will fight for their impending doom. Prayers and Blessings for you and your friend.

[@cocosurgerow]

I always say when I see HOA communities-- well , you can’t eat from that yard. Growing perfect grass will not feed them ! I grow organic food - my yard blesses me.

[@ckonetwo]

the news is bit twisting the facts, yes children will be noisy in the house in the park etc... but if the common area is meant to be noise free, then it needs to be noise free. Though I hate HOAs and made sure I don't have an HOA when I got my home, but this time I would side on the HOA if they had such rule.

[@ecclairmayo4153]

Yup, people knew the rules and bylaws existed, they only dont like it when it doesnt suit them anymore. We live in an HOA community, but I only buy into the ones where rhe bylaws i agree with and it works out. Our subdivision looks new still because of it. Its a choice, if you dont agree, dont sign papers saying you agree then move in and try to change what everybody else agreed on.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

EcClair Mayo Indeed. They even loaned me a copy of the rules and bylaws for a couple of weeks to read while considering. And if I don’t like those particular rules I move on. I will never understand people. It’s so stupid to me and makes no sense. Go through all the buying/renting, moving your furniture,changing mailing address,disrupting kid’s school,etc..then get angry because you don’t like the rules.

[@brianhap22]

god forbid you tell your kids tp play quietly seeing as it is common areas. Take them to a park

[@crossocean5663]

Had major trolling from my HOA, went to the board of directors, explained and all was good. There is paper and then real people. Big difference.

[@rart1111]

Best solution is to run for the HOA and kick out the Karens

[@darealistmynizzle3421]

HOA is run by Karens

[@665Kattt]

What a stupid woman to let her kids go outside and scream every time their team scores. That was inconsiderate of other residents and very unreasonable. I wouldn't want to hear kids screaming in my home either. People have the right to enjoy their home in peace. It was her decision to have those kids, not mine!

[@hansoh01]

Learned my lesson with them years ago. Never buy with a HOA

[@kheventplanner]

Cracks me up when people buy into an hoa and then complain. What did you expect??

[@ecclairmayo4153]

Right. They agreed on the rules and now they want to make exceptions when it doesnt suit them anymore. People should buy into communitirs that fit their families needs and wants, not try to change whats already there. They literally said there is a park down the street, thats what it is there for.

[@andyt2k]

@@ecclairmayo4153 Thing is the rules change and are often vague etc, so the members of the HOA get replaced and suddenly you get a bunch of Karen's with some power and it turns into a nightmare

[@marcellowheeler88]

To be fair some HOA's are very tame then when new members are elected it can become a nightmare. I personally would never live in a neighborhood with an HOA no matter how relax the rules are.

[@andyt2k]

@@marcellowheeler88 Of course, you might be living there 10, 15, 25 years, lord knows how many board members they'd get through in that time

[@marcellowheeler88]

@@andyt2k Yep. Thats why I would just avoid any HOA's completely. Not worth it at all, my dream home is out in the country on a few acres of land close to a lake so I can fish lol.

[@amerigovespucci4076]

I notice that virtually all of the childrens photos have 3-5 kids in them in your report. Are those all "their" kids or are they importing them from elsewhere??? The parents should have known better than to buy a condo when they have multiple children!

[@EmmaDee]

A lot of people DON’T WANT TO LIVE BY CHILDREN. Currently I have kids but when mine are gone, I DON’T wish to live by them.

[@kentondickerson]

File a fair Housing complaint. This kind of discrimination (family status) may not be legal.

[@cindy-ej1vr]

It's not legal, HUD will investigate for free (for you) and the board will be $5,000-8,000 poorer and many hours of questioning .

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

cindy That may work for those neighborhoods and subdivisions with houses with HOAs. All I got to say is read the rules and bylaws for condos thoughly before making your decision to buy or rent. Especially the ones on private property like mine because fighting won't work,waste of time,and expense on you.

[@stuart3712]

Its 100% legal if you sign a lease.... Screaming kids and getting warnings, sounds legal to me.... Two sides to this story...

[@kentondickerson]

@@stuart3712 Your lease does not relieve the condo association from the requirements of the Fair Housing Ac no matter what the lease says.

[@wyntresorrow403]

@@kentondickerson so if the hoa laws say no playing in common areas a family can 8gnore it to their own detriment cause of fair housing? Bs. The same then would have to apply across the board. No senior communities as its against housing laws to discriminate against age

[@janejan9728]

Screaming kids at my windows drive me crazy. I want to join this HOA... but it should be clearly stated in the rules so people with screaming shits know not to move in. Why can't parents ever keep the screaming in front of their own home? Their kids, their noise problem.

[@sloaiza81]

Karen, is that you?

[@azlivin9155]

You're a vile person, get bent

[@ChechiDLR]

Ew

[@amethystflower8799]

Screaming shits, perfect description

[@jaym8299]

Don't play in the street n don't run around screaming your head off.. simple.

[@sannyonyango3667]

“Cure the problem “ doesn’t mean get rid of your children, why do i feel like this family is not being honest with the truth

[@INOOT-INeedOneOfThose]

A townhouse community to a family with kids is equivalent to a studio apartment to a Great Dane. If you send your kids outside because everyone is on top of one another in the house and making too much noise indoors, then you need a house-house. But if a townhouse is all that you can afford, then follow the bylaws as they are written. Yes, kids should be kids and play, but what happened to kids being considerate? Is that no longer being taught? If you think an HOA is bad, try living in a condo association. You don't even have any say so over anything past your front porch! People who purposely seek out a HOA community like rules and order, the aesthetics of low maintenance living, and for their neighbors (their kids and their pets) to follow those rules. It's as simple as that. HOAs exist for people that prefer a well maintained less disruptive environment. Unfortunately most people can't afford to buy land or a piece of property that would provide a boisterous family with space and separation from neighbors and developers know that. Also, people are super sensitive if you address/correct their kids directly (even if it's gently and without obscenities or screaming at them) or come to the parent to discuss their kids with any hint of negative criticism. "Your kids are too loud" is not going to be well received at all. This isn't the 1990s when the village mentality in communities still existed and everyone looked after each others kids...even the childless households kept a watchful eye. It died after that. Parents nowadays who enjoyed the freedom of running around and playing back in the day before areas became heavily developed with multi-family properties, feel like their kids have the right to scream at the top of their lungs outside of a neighboring unit for any reason simply because they are kids, that's what kids do and they are outside, regardless of whose peace it disrupts. You will never win that fight based on that justification.

[@MrHumes-nv1zr]

So is the community for families or retired single/ couples? Yes come live with us where the only thing you can do is stay inside.

[@jimda4910]

The people attempting to enjoy their homes quietly are not harassing them about having children. The noise was the problem. One of the cornerstones of home ownership is you have the right to the quiet enjoyment of your domicile. This is no different than some idiot with a loud stereo and a loud Muffler disturbing the neighborhood. Question, are any of the other residents running up and down screaming banging on things generally making noise is a crowd.

[@witnesstoitall1144]

You would think with children NOT playing outdoors these days,the laughter and joy of children playing outdoors would be music to anyone's ear!

[@babylongonz1733]

Only a joy to people with houses in neighborhoods with houses. There are reasons why people live in condos. Mowing and maintenance isn’t the only thing people want to avoid and the reason this family is no longer there.

[@INOOT-INeedOneOfThose]

Sounds of fun and laughter, yes...that's when it's pleasant, they should be outside playing. But not when they scream...literally scream and bicker the whole time or cuss each other out. If you're also at home working all day its stressful. Walmart is a great place to go if you want a dose of kids screaming to the top of their lungs on the other end of the store...home is supposed to be a sanctuary. Kids can be taught respect and consideration while having their fun. We did as kids.