10x Su-30MKI Vs 10x J-11 Bravo | BVR | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Check out Thrustmaster: bit.ly/tmpromogs You guys asked for more BVR, so here we go with more BVR, this time with some larger numbers which does add a level of difficulty of just maintaining situational awareness. Anyway hope you guys enjoyed the video, thank you for watching, much Love.

[@vuktonic6281]

GS do a sim on MiG 29 over Yugoslavia , during NATO offensive in 1999 , against f16 or f15 .

[@sayeedahmed47]

Next time j-16 (including pl-15) vs su-30 mki

[@tigereyewong9757]

Flanker vs Flanker ...The only winner is Sukhoi! :D

[@flyingcactus1953]

please do F-35 vs mig-31

[@Indresh_Maurya]

Do F-22 RAPTER vs Indian su 30 mki dogfight In next video

[@TheRealGunWhisperer]

" the merge? OH I MERGED WITH A MISSLE " 😂 God we love you sidewinder hahahaha

[@dot3969]

I didn't understand until the explanation..🤣🤣

[@peterzag3140]

these huge battles are so amazing!! Love seeing them

[@apoorvchauhan6258]

That one J-11: "Cowards live longer"

[@haseebwaqar8980]

Chill man it's a simulation 😅

[@apoorvchauhan6258]

@@haseebwaqar8980 Chill man, I'm quoting Transformers

[@notandrewgarfield9646]

@@haseebwaqar8980 wouldn't that make it even more "cowardly"

[@whirlwindeddie2124]

Communists now in China are known for it.

[@pkmishra6763]

😂😂

[@AFNBarbosa]

the 1v1 duels are nice, but those proper wing vs wing group engagements are really something else.

[@VagabondTexan]

That first volley of missiles looked like something straight out of David Weber's Honor Harrington series. Two space fleets shooting a bazillion missiles at each other. I think it also goes to prove that large engagements in modern peer to peer war will be stunningly costly and impossible to maintain.

[@VagabondTexan]

That'll do too, LOL

[@rightsideup6304]

Nothing like a billion dollar Itano Circus performance to start the day

[@smithyMcjoe]

I guess we'll find out by years end if Russia is serious about getting Lithuania in 3 days, but we all know 3 Russian days are closer to 5 months.

[@JohnDoe-jp4em]

Hundrets of billions of dollars worth of equipment being used and destroyed for a couple of hours of fireworks

[@VagabondTexan]

I am also reminded of the old song "One Tin Soldier".

[@littleali689]

These videos never fail to impress. I didn’t realize how much I loved dogfights and modern day jets until subscribing to your channel

[@2Links]

Love that you included the weapons load out at the start.

[@jimlthor]

Yea. Someone had asked for it yesterday or the day before. I wonder if he saw that and obliged

[@DoradoFever]

"Our fight will be legendary"

[@oskarkeith9138]

“Our flight will be legendary” I’m sorry

[@icebolt0864]

"...we are outnumbered 3 to one!" "Then it will be an even fight."

[@ExiledPiasa]

8:55 Chinese pilot: "Killed you!" 9:01 Indian pilot: "Killed you back!"

[@Echo4Sierra4160]

The Su-30 really is the most beautiful flanker there is

[@Attack_The_D_Point]

Su-37

[@usmansabir1407]

@@Attack_The_D_Point didn't even hit production

[@hailehaile8229]

​@@usmansabir1407yes

[@mrcringe-fg6zq]

The Su-30 Indian Variant with the Extra Canards look stellar.

[@krishanuphukan80]

12:35 That Indian Su30 is spinning like a drill.

[@leooram1959]

I heard when two forces of roughly equal strength collide they pretty much cancel each other out. That’s why it is important to have some significant advantage to win strong

[@brianwright9514]

Those Pl12's seemed to be a huge advantage...

[@emmano6340]

@@brianwright9514 Yup, and even with that small advantage the chinese side achieved only a pyrrhic victory with a single J-11 surviving.

[@Appreciation-Community]

It can be worth it. Just depends on the stakes of the battle. Sometimes the sacrifice is worth just to open a window for something else to happen.

[@brianwright9514]

@@Appreciation-Community losing this many jets (much less all those missiles) would be a strategic loss for most Air Forces. 😂

[@percentbigfoot]

@@emmano6340 India is working on Astra Mk2 & 3, the later is going to exceeded the Pl-15 range. While the former is close and is expected to be inducted in a couple of years. Chinese have a slight advantage as of now but these fights are expected to be over a Himalayan range and with the Chinese side on a significantly lower side geographically thus it kind of evens out with their load carrying capacity reduced. It would probably be an even fight with losses on both sides, hope things don't escalate to that level, though.

[@inquisitorbacon8170]

That last J-11 pilot got out of the plane like Willem Dafoe in The Boondock Saints talking about the Saints vs Il Duce fight... "There was a FIREFIGHT!"

[@andrewdellaiacono6698]

keep these multi aircraft fight coming!! can't get enough of them. would love to see a flight of 2 Raptors take on some 10 enemy aircraft in a BVR

[@ex-muslimraj8652]

The Su30MKI model is quiet good! The livery is nice actually, accurate to some point!

[@jonaswallmyr]

It was really interesting watching this bigger fight and just imagine how stress full it would have been in real life, being part of such an engagement. Please do more of these "battles" . Also, laughed at the remark "These are gonna fight each other.." about the pilots sailing down in their para's . They are like, cocking their handguns, shouting profanities to the enemy , it's not over yet for them :)

[@jlbeck777]

Love watching these larger engagements! I feel like this one, especially, panned out pretty much exactly as it should: Brutally.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

19 out of 20 ejection seats were used (or attempted) in this battle... For those that didn't make it down safely, the upshot is they didn't know it.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

That shot at 7:54 - the definition of "cool guys don't look at explosions..."

[@Miranda_Ghost]

Imagine being that last guy and radioing in the clear: "Hello...?"

[@CNCTEMATIC]

Very cool. You can see lots of overlapping leaves in the Tacview. The AI really knows BVR tactics.

[@tayyabnaser5649]

Sukhoi: I'm playing both sides so that I may will always come out on top

[@2Links]

Love seeing bigger engagements.

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

Ohh my Gosh. the opening shot gave me the willies. Beautiful stuff, thanks.

[@3ms4ever]

New fave aviation channel!! I have been subscribed for quite awhile tho tbh, however I have noticed starting since the last 6 months your videos and content have been at an exceptional level. Graphics, sound, narration, pace, story line, and a diverse plot. Thank you for your awesome work. I don’t have the time or finances to get into DCS rn, so it’s been amazing living through your videos (I assure you, you are 1000 times the pilot I will ever be) but it is still amazing to pretend that it is me flying sometimes 😂 more battles! More BVR! More everything! Cheers and peace to you brother, wishing you all the blessings in the world. -X

[@SuperCrowHeart]

Really digging these scenario bvr fights. Especially now that the new AI doesn't guarantee a victory. Great vids man. Keep em' coming!

[@knndyskful]

10 v 10 now this is gonna be interesting Lol that last surviving plane was like screw this I’m not dying

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

Awesome, I've been hoping I'd get to see some Flanker sibling rivalry going on. Perhaps you can compare the Indian and Chinese variants against whatever Russian version comes closest in a later video?

[@Xiphactinus]

An Su-30MKI vs J-16 vs Su-30SM video would be good to see, I agree.

[@swarajkar3086]

Rather Su-30MKI vs Su-30MKK

[@Xiphactinus]

@@swarajkar3086 how do they differ?

[@aryaputram]

@@swarajkar3086 CHINESE HAVE Su-30MKC

[@bkp22]

​@@aryaputram SU 30 MKC= (Maa ki ☪️hut)

[@yuriivashchenko7668]

PLAAF Wing Commander: How'd the battle go? J-11B Pilot: Complete annihilation PLAAF Wing: Where are your men? J-11B Pilot: Complete annihilation PLAAF Wing: And youre sure you got all of them? J-11B Pilot: Complete...annihilation

[@quisqueyanguy120]

A pure modern example of pyrrhic victory

[@jazzorion1]

He may not have contributed to the fight, but he at least gets to go back home to his family 😂

[@takaharatanaka8818]

Heh... "I merged with a missile!" That's a new one on me.

[@katanamast279]

Loved this type of video. Can you do a 10v10 WW2 planes. Maybe BF109 vs P51?

[@sopansharma]

Superb suggestion!

[@SupaMan2122]

Or Korean era Sabres and MiGs

[@katanamast279]

@@SupaMan2122 Yea that would be awesome too 👌

[@spaceorbust6636]

That's some serious Survivors Guilt for that single J-11 :d

[@DDayJayke]

I love Flankers, so I thank you GS for giving us such a beautiful video!

[@siddharthsahu7123]

Finally thank you for Listening. Last video i commented for sukhoi 30 mki and u made it. Appreciate you bro.❤🇮🇳

[@Calvin1911]

What a huge scale fight! They tacview with the piano background music is perfect! Lol @ the dude that did nothing for the group project but got that A+ 😆😆

[@cshan2313]

very first thing that came into my mind when the wall of missiles starts flying, "hmmmmm Ace Combat 7 Arsenal Bird missile barrage, and Project wingman mission 11 Cold war"

[@luongduc9119]

Yesssssss I found an Ace Combat and Project Wingman fan!!!

[@FORTUNE.TELLER99]

Absolutely fantastic. This is better than anything I have seen yet. I missed Longshot 🤣

[@Stinger522]

This was quite the royal rumble. Now we need a twelve vs twelve BVR battle between F-15 Eagles and J-11Bs. AMRAAMs vs PL-15s,

[@daito5824]

I love this guys content so much like holy shit these videos are good

[@comradecougar3219]

for the sake of both the countries, I really hope such fights happen only in DCS World, not the real world. ..

[@debdulalsenapati1391]

So basically the coward who hid under the table survived and went back to base claiming Glory and future Super pilot status 😝 that's why it is said that History is written by Surviving Cowards OR the Lucky ones 😃

[@overtoast1105]

It would be incredible to see a large scale pvp bvr engagement. The one 4v4 that was done like a million years ago is still my favorite video on the channel.

[@krismurphy7711]

The Pilot in the surviving J11 was the Party Leader.

[@948320z]

... and school textbooks will say how he singlehandedly wiped out the entire Indian air force.

[@bkp22]

​@@948320z Without even a fight He erased them all

[@GaffeyTaffy_]

i merged? oh with a missile

[@Kingonads]

The survivor may not have contributed.... but he will be awarded ALL the medals.

[@itsaflyboything]

that one guy followed murphy's law of combat #5: try to look unimportant, the enemy doesn't want to waste ammo either.

[@ltitus8900]

This is what I am talking about. A larger engagement. Love it!!

[@off_grid_javelin]

India is increasing it's numbers of LCA tejas so that the loss ratio becomes high on chinese side as even 15 J11 wouldn't be more cost-wise compared to 10 Su-30 mki. Astra's Mk2 (dual pulse) and Mk3 (ramjet ver) is also being inducted in tejas as well.

[@haseebwaqar8980]

Seriously Tejas (crap) 😅

[@off_grid_javelin]

@@haseebwaqar8980 seriously ? did you got time to comment after all the IED bombings, Mass terrorism and extremism ?

[@haseebwaqar8980]

@@off_grid_javelin You still have courage to talk after Abhinandans G.O.A.T moment & Pitching Tejas really! even IAF don't use that crap.

[@off_grid_javelin]

@@haseebwaqar8980 Okay first of all two squadrons of IAF uses tejas secondly... your ex pm says Pakistan will be dismembered and nuked so I don't think your country has any respect or economy left. More than half of your roadways, railways are chinese now due to the loans, less 10 billion foreign reserves. Your country is truly going to be katorastan soon. Might as well mortgage all your women to chinese to repay their loans, Instead of blabbing rubbish here.

[@wisuwatbhosri9971]

19 aircrafts down, that’s 2 billion dollars worth of equipment gone in 15 minutes

[@raylake6611]

Not counting the volleys of missiles tho

[@oddy1637]

And the dead pilots who r not easy to come by. A lot of investment is required to train them.

[@takaharatanaka8818]

Meh I had a bigger hand receipt than US$2 billion managing the Hohenfels MILES warehouse in Germany back in the 90s.

[@haseebwaqar8980]

Nearly a billion not 2, 900 millionish.

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

@@haseebwaqar8980 you are forgetting the pilots and missiles

[@No1Distraction]

I seriously enjoyed watching this 10 v 10, please continue fights on this scale!

[@nicholasrowan387]

You're really popin off with these videos lately. Nice work 😁

[@jaws013]

"Here hold this" *Merges with missle at mach jesus*

[@leongao5120]

8:25 AWACS: UZI 1-1 Murode 1-1 Merged GS: What? (GS gets hit) GS: Oh.

[@VideosfromaSailor]

These large scale fight are really starting to impress me. Good going bud.

[@FoxDim972]

In fact you contributed to save the last standing guy! lol He was busy defending a missile you shooted at him. That's why he was so far! 😂

[@sndy2436]

Would love to see Rafale and Su30 combo vs J10 + J20+ J16 combo , which would be real world scenario

[@haseebwaqar8980]

J-20 wouldn't be required cause it's in a different league.

[@bkp22]

​@@haseebwaqar8980 yes require toh kuch nhi hai na hi J10,J16 or J20 PLA Airforce bina takeoff kare hi ek PL15 missile maregi or poora India khatam 😍

[@austin7877]

“Merged?” “Oh I’m merged with a missile” Lmaoo 🤣🤣

[@JohnnyWooh]

7:50 Cool guys don't look at explosions 😂

[@MattWaller04]

The Tac View was incredible for this one!

[@JitterbugFPV]

Amazing videos sidewinder. Keep making them!

[@shawnmcd55533]

Imagine the trash talking/fighting (since they would still have a pistol) with both pilots parachuting 🪂 together that shot each other down. 😂😂😂

[@theflyingpiglet_2305]

Great video you inspired me to try out DCS and now its my favourite game thank you

[@tipoomaster]

"I merged with a missile" famous last words

[@kaktusztea]

Great video! It'd be great if you could make a video about explaining radar icons and metrics for dummies (when target is locked, distance, jamming, etc).

[@TimberwolfCY]

As soon as I heard the big brass drop at 0:51 , I knew it was on like Donkey Kong.

[@WaterxDragon35]

The only thing louder than the screaming engines of those jets is the CPU fan in your computer.

[@maitreytelang2312]

Yes, yess, yesssssss! Finally, @growlingsidewinder has answer the fan’s wishes. Thank you and god bless.

[@Archer89201]

We get atleast a couple of Su-30MKIs over our head every day, sometimes they so high altitude sonic booms that scares the people ans really upset the dogs. Earlier it used to be MiG-21Bisons. If there is a shooting war I might get dogfights over my head

[@AKumar-fc6ek]

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" Except for the last (J11 flanker) guy 🤣🤣

[@pale_2111]

That had to be Ralph Wiggum in that sole surviving J-11. Probably was saying "I'm hElpInG" over the radio while his buddies were getting shot down.

[@ashish55gupta]

Awesome work as always

[@ResidentGG]

Originals VS Copycats! Great content! 😆

[@murfdog2216]

Love these huge battles! How about we get 10 F22 raptors versus 10 SU felons!

[@Balmung60]

Whoa now, gotta wait for Russia to actually have 10 Su-57s

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

@@Balmung60 lol

[@tmytyson]

I am once again asking for Battle of the Canards II: A 4-way fight between the JAS39 Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, and SU-30SM Flanker-H (or -33/D if you prefer single seat). May the best canard win.

[@divyanshsingh2009]

Su-30 MKI

[@envoyend9149]

11:52 As close to a Macross missile barrage as you can get with real world mechanics.

[@patrickdavis8271]

Love these videos GS!

[@doug9990]

Love to see you and LS do a WWII version of the “fur ball”

[@tough931]

"surviving is winning, everything else is bullshit" - Michael De Santa

[@TunPiccolo]

Damn 10v10 is pure chaos

[@HayashiHyena]

the missiles that hit from around 50 miles were pl-15’s which are long range missiles compared to the medium range pl-12

[@ddaazahh8064]

If they were actually pl-15s, it's no wonder the j-11s won.

[@shaun1165]

J-11B can't carry PL-15 in the first place. Also PL-15 can easily go for 100nm, even the PL-15E model has a range of over 70nm. PL-12s do have a max range of 50nm, especially if they got lofted.

[@notificationguys5128]

J-11B can't carry the PL-15 PL-15 can only be carried by newer J-11 J-11BG and J-11D which is have an AESA radar

[@hemendraravi4787]

Those are not pl15s they are pl12

[@ferrous3262]

@@notificationguys5128 is the j11d even a thing besides a protoype

[@ZeR0ntnt]

I wonder how much would the losses be if this happened IRL. 19 planes and more than 100 missiles can't be cheap

[@akashsrivastava7895]

Here we go again!!!

[@Terpenesteve]

So much yes to these big battles GS! Loving it! As always epic job done here with the intro and all the editing. Always will be my favorite toober💜🤙🏼

[@sniperh2o325]

id love to see a video like this, but a guns only engagement. pretty unrealistic, but a modern day furball would be pretty cool to watch.

[@Acestes.]

So the one Coward J-11 survived. GS says "Uh....yeah I'm here...helping" Man, loved the fight, pretty exciting.

[@guygabriel6251]

He collects the medals!

[@HereticsRight]

I'd love to see some mixed jet versions of this, like f16 and f15 vs mig29 and su27.

[@yapod9061]

Yeah, that would be catastrophic.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

A modern day fighter furball. Resulting in total annihilation

[@turnnburn6892]

Those first few missiles the J-11s fired while they were climbing were actually PL-15s, GS.

[@AnarghaBose]

Nice ! Good to see the mod again

[@gitfoad8032]

Indian vs Chinese. Contentious.

[@001barca]

I think J-11 is way below par Su-30 MKI, it should be matched with the J-15 flanker. J-11 is based on the old Su-27

[@haseebwaqar8980]

Flankers are all nearly the same things Su-30, 27, 35 etc but missile technology can change the course of fight.

[@001barca]

@@haseebwaqar8980 Huge difference in avionics as Su-35 and J-16 are way more advance

[@hamstermomoco]

J-15 is a carrier-capable fighter of PLAN, comparable to Su-33. J-16 or J-11BG (upgraded J-11B with AESA radar and modern avionics) is the current PLAAF workhorse fighter.

[@001barca]

@@hamstermomoco Don't think DCS reflects all the capabilities of Chinese aircrafts as they're very secretive

[@bkp22]

​​@@haseebwaqar8980 waah ☪️hutiye fir toh ye bhi bol deta SU27 or SU57 bhi same hi hai

[@Dunewarrior00]

"Oh... I merged with a missile." - Growling Sidewinder.

[@Jager_Xx]

YES I LOVE IT! finally weapon loadouts!

[@cyberwar5579]

News flash 1 week ago India tested the astra mk3 estimated range well over 350 km 😎 its gonna make those pl 12 look like cake walk Also STAR supersonic AWACS killer range 450km + is going to start trial soon 🤘😎

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

Then you woke up

[@AdityaSunil232]

@@blizz3621 lmao did you read what you said?

[@AdityaSunil232]

@@blizz3621 then you're probably North Indian

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

@@AdityaSunil232 bruh....i think you should read what the OP has written in his comment. He has written astra mk 3 has been tested and "AWACS Killer" 🤣is going for trail soon, both these things are far from reality, we haven't even tested astra mk2 yet let alone mk3. This is why i wrote "then you woke up" because it clearly seems like OP is dreaming. But then you started bull-shitting about conscience and what not

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

@@AdityaSunil232 what does his comment has to do with north or south indian?

[@briandp0560]

Thanks for the FURBALL!

[@puneetsharma3468]

That's why stealth is needed, and F-35 is not a turkey! It's interesting how aviation combat shall evolve with a) stealth; & b) hypersonic missiles. So much for thrust vectoring, which may seldom be required. Then again one may not merge or even enter the known MAR.

[@galgay1]

“Discretion is the better part of valor” John falstaff

[@debkumarroy1095]

Love the BVR battles