11 HP BRIGGS ENGINE VALVE JOB (part 4)

My 32 year old Craftsman Lawn Tractor needed a Valve Job
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[@keithnoneya]

Yep use grease to hold them in place. Put one on top horizontally and then roll it over to the bottom by turning the valve, the grease will hold it in place, then put one on top. Release the valve spring and vu-walla you have one of them done. Nice job RK. Keith

[@99carnot]

Really nice valve work and a nice install. The cylinder head looked brand new. Thumbs up for the 32 year old spark plug! Thanks very much for your very kind comment on my video. That meant a lot to me!

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Steve!! And you're welcome Bud, you're a great Guy!!☺

[@richardhester6877]

Thanks for your patience and time in showing us your techniques. I enjoy watching all of yours and Mike''s videos.

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks alot Bud!!☺

[@Pull_It_Apart_Paul_Ham_CB]

very small cable tie around the keepers or locks whilst on the valve, then slide down, and slowly release compressor and the cable tie eventually pops off

[@ml2trick]

Me do the same. Works perfect

[@johnockey5654]

I've been looking for an hour on how to get these apart then back together. Thank you for putting this video up. Sadly I see I'll never get this done without the fancy tool... so I guess I'm buying one.

[@GrantHubbard]

awesone block of instruction!!!! 805 Road king For President!!!!!!!

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Mr VP!!☺

[@marshallman1au]

Well, Well RK ... :) You do REHEARSALS ???? I thought after all these years that you did it right EVERY time! ROFL!!! :)

[@CrazyCHikcin]

A valve spring compresser can be useful however a bench vise and 3 small wire ties can replace that tool. It basically can give you more room to work when installing the retaining clips

[@dicksargent3582]

I grew up in a small engine repair shop. We used to put the valve keepers in holding them with a dob of grease on the end of a screw driver. Works great ! And is easy with a little practice ; )

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@tonywatson987]

What Shaggy5777 said - compress the spring and cap together to avoid the cap flopping about and getting in the way - the magnet idea sounds good too! Looking good, RK!

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@aserta]

One method i found that sort of works, but you need practice with it (like with everything, amairite?) is to stick two broken shards of a neodymium magnet on the keepers (one per each). That helps keeping them grounded. Once you're done, you take them out and you're set.

[@mjmcomputers]

Magnets and grease are the way to go. Looks like you figured it out and did a good job. should be good for another 32 years.

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@craig19721000]

Thanks for sharing your vids gday from australia

[@805ROADKING]

G'day Mate!! Thanks for watching!!☺

[@marshallman1au]

I bet you have a lot of Aussie mates RK .... You are down to earth like we are .... :) ROFL!

[@smallenginedude71]

us aussies seem to like roadkings channel. Im aussie too :D

[@aussiedazvk4djh889]

Another great video there Roadking. I always used the copper coat on the spark plugs and exhaust bolts. 👍

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Mate!! Never tried the copper stuff!! I use to use the silver stuff for the lugs on my Dump Trucks, that why I had it laying around!!☺

[@colinstamp9053]

I think you missed torquing one of the bolts. Your masking tape showed 8 bolts but the head has 9. The one missing from the tape is between the valves.

[@805ROADKING]

You're right!! We took care of it!!☺

[@secondmt4418]

Your right I just did my valves using this guide on the head bolts but got confused when only 8 are numbered. I have the exact same engine with a 9 bolt pattern tomorrow I will loosen and re tighten using the manual diagram. I got the exhaust valve keepers in using wire ties on the springs it worked out really nice using grease to hold them it took only one try! I thought that was going to be the hardest part but nope. Nice video series it was my first venture into valves I'm 66 yrs young.

[@MrGjcruz]

those keepers our tough getting on! grease and magnet is the way it worked for me too! enjoy your videos!

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks alot Bud!!☺

[@aleblanc3547]

Oh yeah, that valve spring tool is the ticket. I used two zip-ties on a little 3.5 HP, and even with the easier "offset washer" as a keeper, it was a booger bear. When I finally got it on, it wasn't due to skill as much as luck. :>)

[@CrazyCHikcin]

A LeBlanc I used the same method for compressing the valve springs. Great way to make more room to work

[@MattsRageFitGarage]

I've always used zip ties to compress the springs, get everything in place and cut the zip ties and pull them out. Done it on several engines that way. Wish I had the compressor tool though.

[@wyattoneable]

I don't mess with small engines much but if I ever do I know where to come!

[@805ROADKING]

I've seen your work Bud!! I'm sure you could handle anything thrown at you!!☺

[@radracer2033]

I see my donation in the background of some of the shots! Can't wait to see that!

[@805ROADKING]

Mike is dying to leap into that rebuild, He's already found a guy to make wipers or seals, whatever ya call them, if we need them!! We've both been busy as hell with other stuff, He's out in Indiana right now at the Caterpillar Factory!! But we will definitely get to it!!☺

[@radracer2033]

805ROADKING Can't wait! What do you think you're going to do with it? Make it a show engine or have it power something? I was thinking a go kart or dirt bike would be really cool with that engine!

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Looking great King , Thumbs up man !

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks alot Mr. Fixit!!☺

[@thehaze1972]

Right on 'bout the plug by the way. 👍

[@ThePeepingEgg]

Happy weekend! Stopping by to show some support and smash that Like button! :)

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Peep!! We appreciate you stopping by!!☺

[@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper]

Bubba, as far as the valve keepers, the best way is what ever works the best for you. I usually just use a tiny magnet and just loosen the spring compressor just enough to hold the keepers and install the inside first with the parting edge up & down then the outside keeper. I sometimes magnify the keepers as well. A little grease helps. also fully adjust the spring compressor to fit as well as possible. You're doing just fine, and at talking it in as well....lolol....Bob.

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bob!! It's funny, ya can't help but talk to them little bitches!!☺

[@micaelsilva5021]

thanks its been soo good i love this channel i have been learning so many things thanks really thanks

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks alot Bud!! We appreciate you watching!!☺

[@BrucesShop]

Well RK I have good luck with the magnets. I have heard of the tye wrap thing too it is good . I have the same thought on plugs. idea. The young guys say put in a new plug you cheap XXXXX But the older plugs seem to have more mass. 165 inch pounds feels light to me too.

[@805ROADKING]

It's just I've had so much trouble with new plugs it scares me!! And it's just not one brand, it's been NGK, Champion and Autolite!! I guess when that head gets hot it must expand alot and tighten it up quite a bit!!☺

[@RanalynnNaipo]

You did an excellent job on this video. Hugs 🤗 and Have a great and productive weekend 🙃

[@805ROADKING]

Thank you Ranalynn!! You have a great weekend also!!☺

[@victorbitter583]

Go on , take all the hugs. ;~P

[@whiteboy2600]

you have a great weekend bud thumbs up

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!! You have a great weekend also!!☺

[@mikedoblo4782]

Little bit of grease on the end of the valve and thin magnetic screwdriver the trick is not to get annoyed with it :), also we call keepers collets in oldy england

[@ml2trick]

I hope i learned something today. Always a Good video and Hagd

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@OldCarAlley]

I use a small pen magnet to get the keepers in and out.

[@Eric-un5ov]

Great video tfs

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@TheShadeTreeFixitMan]

Almost ready to mow grass again and just in time too!

[@805ROADKING]

Yeah Buddy!! No lie, just another day or two would have made things alot tougher!!☺

[@upsidedowndog1256]

Clicker torque wrenches are the least accurate at the bottom of the marked scale. I would have used the beam one. Almost there!

[@805ROADKING]

I'm gonna run it a little and retorque them with the beam!! I wasn't liking the way the clicker was working!!☺

[@Thevinylking69]

Intake valve setup looks exactly the same as both of the valve spring retainers on a Tecumseh lawnmower I was foolin' with recently.

[@campermike8879]

Guess I got lucky ages ago. I pulled the head off a 3.75 Briggs. Cleaned the carbon off the head and the top of the piston. Threw it back on with the same gasket and just tightened the bolts. Never had a problem. It didn't help the lack of power though. Maybe it headed a valve job.

[@805ROADKING]

Yeah Buddy!! That would have helped ☺

[@screamineagle88]

I still don't like the way that intake valve spring retainer just sits there. I'm wondering if that small hammered piece of metal you found in the disassembly was a valve keeper that had come loose. Nope! Did some more checking and it seems B&S used those type of valve locks on a bunch of their engines. Ya learn something new everyday.

[@funkyzero]

haha... funny you mention the in/lb conversion. When I was like 13 I was overhauling a 16HP Kohler and stripped out the bolts in a brand new rod because I forgot about that little consideration and torqued it to like 90ft/lb instead in in/lb.... and it was an expensive rod too.

[@805ROADKING]

Yeah it's not tough to do!! I'm sure alotta good Mechanics have made that mistake!!☺

[@funkyzero]

well, I only made that mistake once.. so there's that I guess

[@koningbolo4700]

I guessif you compress both the springs AND the rings with the tool at the same time, it is a lot easier to put back together...

[@not2fast4u2c]

I like your grease idea on the EX valve keepers ....The IN valve slotted washer keeper sure is a lot easier to do ...I have used a screw driver to get them out

[@805ROADKING]

I've found needlenose vice grips work well on the slotted washer too, just position it right an tug on it!!☺

[@huck01955]

Nice work buddy I have the same torque wrench .:)

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Joe!! I just bought an inch/pound wrench!! I didn't like the way that one felt!!☺

[@thehaze1972]

I usually put both the spring and retainer in the compressor, then you can add one keeper at the time while holding the other one in place with the compressor/spring/retainer combo. But grease is also a great help.

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@williamwetmore7495]

congratulation you found the time honored trick for installing the split keep all by yourself

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!! Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while eh!!☺

[@kevinhealy3479]

You almost had it with the grease. Put the keepers in all the way into the cap then push the valve into the cap and with a screwdriver push on the keepers. They will open up onto the valve stem then just pull on the valve to keep them there.

[@ctsolano]

When installing valve springs that use tapered locks (like on the exhaust valve) the spring and the spring retainer (disc on bottom of spring) are compressed as a unit. The locks inserted and the compressor expanded.

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@simonloriaux8325]

trick is to compress the rotator with the spring in the tool, gives you a bit more space

[@stevelalondejr2183]

Release the Krakens was my thoughts on valve keepers they can be pains and whatever works for you works,nuff said. Who wrote wash me on that dirty motor...lol

[@805ROADKING]

Lol!! I washed that bitch after we got it all back together and running!!☺

[@rogeroconnor5182]

both my torque wrenches are snap on click type. inch and foot pounds,and i never had a issue with them, the beam types are still handy,especially for setting up pinion drag on a rear end or transmission band adjustment. Mike aint got nothin on you,lol

[@805ROADKING]

I just picked up a new clicker today in inch pounds!!☺

[@MalcOfLincoln]

Be good for another 32 years now eh Mate :)

[@805ROADKING]

Yeah Buddy!! It should!!☺

[@MissouriOldTimer]

for me it works best to put the rotator on the spring then use the compressor that way I have less to worry about when I put the keepers on,also I put the retainer on the spring and then place it on the intake valve , I use grease on the tip of a screw driver to place the keepers on,, sometimes it takes a few tries,, lol

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!! Yeah both ways sound like a much better way of doing it!!☺

[@MissouriOldTimer]

well, everyone has their way of doing things, the way you did it might be much better for you than my way.. I like your channel because I like machinery and engines videos, mine are somewhat like yours but I a little more unorthodox than you.. meaning I wish i had more equipment to work with but since I dont some of my stuff is kinda cobbled up.. lol

[@txsviking]

Inch and foot pounds I can relate but those fig newton meters throw me for a loop. 😂

[@805ROADKING]

Yeah Buddy!! I'm with you!!☺

[@txsviking]

😉

[@rw3dog]

Lookin good..... isn't it amazing how. cheap old Briggs parts are.....

[@805ROADKING]

Thanks Bud!!☺

[@linedean1]

I had a question about the anti-seize goop on the spark plug: do you think that it might would impair the engine-to-spark plug ground with time and heat ?

[@kellydees1938]

when you put the spring into the compressor, could the rotator (keeper, whatever) go into the spring compressor too??? That would be so.much easier.

[@victorbitter583]

Mate, the trick is to compress the spring with the cap in 1 piece. Not 2 like you did it. That will give you the thickness of the tangs that hold the spring , more room. cheers.

[@805ROADKING]

I tried that Mate, the retainer was too round to stay in place properly!! We almost hurt Roadking when it popped out!!☺

[@victorbitter583]

jeebuzz. no good. That is the trick mate. You need next size up spring compressor. cheers.

[@pieterlops1204]

Stick the keepers whit grease on a screwdriver and mount it no problems do this for years...

[@timothyfink9354]

wonder why they quit using the straight pins for the valves? Did they have problems with them?

[@hansiman1977]

outlet leeks at the manifold

[@haroldstover2480]

kalasp spring with retainer

[@leemer1]

Thinking about it now I wonder if the keeper and keeper groove are both worn out on the intake valve allowing the spring to cock down like that? Its not right.

[@victorbitter583]

I agree, That spring should not run cackywompus like that.

[@805ROADKING]

I think it's in the spring, everything else looked fine!! I ordered a new spring, it's easy enough to change it!!☺

[@allenmckinney9533]

805ROADKING dont worry. when you drive up hill it will level out. lol

[@jaysaw8151]

What was the final valve clearance

[@TheOpenAirGarage]

Back together hopefully this fixes it.

[@805ROADKING]

Yeah Buddy!! ☺

[@hellohun7331]

You've got a problem with that I take. Buy a new valve , spring , retainer and keeper. A cocked spring is not right. It's not like you to not do it right

[@805ROADKING]

That's just what we did Bud!! Got the whole shit for less than $15!! At least we got the mower running till the parts come in!!☺

[@braddowns17]

there is a lot of oil and crud are you going to pressure wash or degrease it?

[@tedohio3038]

Think he is leaving it dirty to drive some of us crazy, HA

[@805ROADKING]

Yeah we gave it a bath when we got it back together and running!!☺

[@braddowns17]

805ROADKING repainted it and had the wheels chromed ,and had the seat reupholstered in diamond tuck and roll also. just trying to think where to hang the fuzzy dice. 😀😀

[@mikeweiser6020]

You were doing it right until you got to the keepers. A dollop of grease on the valve stem keeps the placed keepers in place.

[@atcaleb]

Guys like me that do this for a living don't have a good method for those pesky valve retainers either. I use a magnet on a stick to get them in there and then I put a finger on the retainer and pull the magnet off. Practice helps, but there is no easy way that I know of. And the old man who I used to work for had done thousands of valves- he didn't know a trick either.

[@805ROADKING]

I think the trick is to stay away from the newer stuff, and just stick with the Antiques!!☺

[@advance9572]

Hey buddy, what make camera do you use to make your videos? Nick

[@805ROADKING]

It's a Canon HF200, I've had it for a while!! It's been very good to me!!☺

[@advance9572]

I'm asking because I just got a canon powershot sx530 hs , and a laptop. What video editor do you use? Almost ready to get the show going. Thanks bud.!

[@805ROADKING]

I use Cyberlink Power Director 14 but I really don't do much editing with it! Any cheap or free editing program would work just fine!!☺

[@advance9572]

Thanks brother. I'm looking into it now.

[@regsparkes6507]

New head gasket, grind the valves, check the stem/tappet clearance,.......and an old dirty spark plug,...why?

[@805ROADKING]

We still might give it a new plug!! It's just I've had so much trouble with new plugs it scares me!! And it's just not one brand, it's been NGK, Champion and Autolite!!☺

[@treyw3867]

So you gonna give it an oil change?😂😂😂

[@805ROADKING]

We didn't change it, but we did fill it!!☺

[@treyw3867]

805ROADKING maybe one day the crank seal will fall out and dump all it's oil and you'll have to give it a full oil change lol😂. you and chargermiles007 are my 2 favorite youtubers🖒

[@sidvicious7813]

Grease is your friend...

[@leemer1]

Go to bed Roadking. lol

[@805ROADKING]

I can't, gotta get some entertainment up for you guys!!☺

[@leemer1]

Yeah buddy keep it comin`.

[@ron827]

Good job on the valves but reassembling a dirty engine is like taking a shower and putting on dirty underwear. :-) Cleaning it once every 32 years is not too often.

[@805ROADKING]

That started out as an easy field repair, by the time we figured it was gonna be a major operation it was too late and dark out to clean it!! We gave it a bath after it was all back together and running!!☺