11-Year-Old Girl Plays Dead as Brother Slaughters Family Inside Mansion: Prosecutor

[@LawAndCrime]

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[@dlghtfl1]

Could you find a more biased guest? He clearly doesn't like firearms, homeschooling, or not medicating children. It takes a lot of audacity to basically blame the dead parents.

[@therealmfwitemike1843]

🎅🏿

[@ndcINC]

how about y'all focus less on your brand deals and more on having reputable guests. Philip was making some insane accusations.

[@julietewing4847]

You said it would take years for the child to get over this.I need to correct you.She will never get over this.

[@junejunejuniejune]

She lost her whole family and saw them dead, how could anyone get over that? Therapy and time will help her cope, but no amount of therapy washes this out of your mind.

[@cavakilla]

@@junejunejuniejune You are absolutely correct!! This is just awful. My heart just breaks for this young lady. Does anyone know if there is a go fund me for this kid?

[@CrimeX7007]

Such a big shock for a child, oh so sad

[@ang_ro]

Facts. She will not.

[@sdseals2076]

He said she will get through it, but not over it.

[@lempiralives]

I have autism and ADHD. I have been caught watching things. I have never wanted to harm anyone. This person is a cold blooded murder who does not belong is society

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

I had ADHD and other behavioral problems as a kid. My father had two guns in the house. One was a.22 caliber rifle and the other was a.44 magnum rifle. He kept the guns unlocked in his closet with the ammunition and I NEVER accessed them without permission, nor did I ever aim at or harm another living thing. I wouldn’t even hunt. It was the 1960s. I was highly educated in firearms and never had a mishap.

[@Susiecat24]

There could have been abuse going on we don’t even know about. Let’s not jump to conclusions.

[@cwalker7131]

@@eucliduschaumeau8813 none of our parents back in the day, locked up their firearms and none of us would dare touch them. We had different kind of parents, and we respected them!

[@BettiePagan]

The stigma is egregious, I am so sorry 🙏🏻 it’s difficult to exist enough as is with these conditions, lest they paint you as as a ticking time💣 🫶🏻🕊️

[@Cocoa-mania]

@@Susiecat24everyone’s using abuse as an excuse. Parents can’t even discipline their kids anymore, the next thing they do is plot their murder. I just watched one where the parents grounded the guy, next thing, he kills the family including the siblings

[@kathykoeven]

Wow! Now he’s making things up! He doesn’t know if there’s an undiagnosed issue. He’s trying to blame the mom, not the boy himself! Absurd!

[@SC-bg2lv]

Right!? F THIS GUY. He’s a condescending jerk and doesn’t know anything! Terrible thing for him to say without any information

[@shelleysprinkle873]

Agreed

[@StellaKnights]

disgusting reporting

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

Typical liberal. I hate to bring up politics, but they blame everything on the victims and not the perpetrators. They are not well.

[@kristenclark82]

He’s taking A LOT of liberties with things he doesn’t know much about. Pretty inappropriate. Especially in such a horrific case

[@EmperorOfMan]

NRA

[@JohannaVanWinkle]

Totally inappropriate! It is hard to believe he is a professional.

[@scrolemodel]

He was brought on as a guest to speculate from the perspective of an attorney.

[@Chris-rv5mm]

I'm thinking he's doing what other lawyers don't say out loud in public. These court lawyers have seen hundreds of cases over their career and they simply use statistics to tell us what is statistically going to be the case. That's my guess.

[@candacedonald4087]

Like what? Sounded like normal speculation to me

[@alybarbre]

Why is this man blaming the dead mother? He doesn’t know these details and is tainting the entire case. Basically stating that autism and ADHD are the cause? Shame on him. Hope Law and Crime never has him on again. Wishing and praying for this young girl, this is horrific.

[@HLStrickland]

I found him talking horrific. He was already talking about WHEN he gets out. Seriously?

[@eh1702]

He also said “Dad kept the lockbox from the kids” when the surviving witness reportedly said exactly the opposite - that the lockbox was routinely put in plain view and that the accused knew the combination.

[@DaisyMae809]

Terrible to blame this on ADHD. This isn’t just an impulse act, he murdered his family in cold blood. As a parent of a son with ADD, shame on him! Geesh.

[@StellaKnights]

personally Id say this guy is a sociopath , probably has a borderline personaity disorder too , see how he likes that

[@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_pls]

​@@DaisyMae809Yes - and they said it was premeditated, he tried to say it was his brother and placed the gun in his hand despite him being shot several times.

[@lthage373]

Please don't call on this guy as an expert anymore. He certainly isn't an expert at parenting.

[@roobearlillibee5301]

Have you met the internet before?

[@lucillem2639]

This expert is creepy. Blame the victims. Ugh

[@kimward5746]

He’s a lawyer giving legal expertise

[@mingiinimene3335]

@@kimward5746 Yeah but how legal is it to diagnose someone without even meeting him. And is autism a get out of jail free card? Are autistic people unable to tell right from wrong? Yeah they might act out more but taking a gun and shooting someone is not lashing out. It is calculated action especially when the gun was locked away. And what would ADHD have to do with anything? I did not know people with ADHD are more prone to murder.

[@FireStyle420]

I have autism yet I wouldn’t blame my autism

[@deeelle697]

what does autism and adhd have to do with this evil male who decided to unalive his family because his entitlement far exceeded his morals.

[@LeslieMcGuire-nq7yn]

Unalive is not a word.

[@jjgirl3715]

​@LeslieMcGuire-nq7yn yes it is, check the dictionary.

[@boringsus]

Right? The fact that he is male has more to do with him having the propensity to commit these crimes.

[@NP-zs5ui]

​​@@LeslieMcGuire-nq7yn You have to say that to avoid KZbin censorship.

[@trinataco4493]

@@LeslieMcGuire-nq7ynmany use this term on KZbin because KZbin deletes comments and content when “other” terms are used for this offense.

[@SC-bg2lv]

This guy is really going to blame the mom homeschooling? Without any evidence? Bias against homeschooling much? Worst guest I’ve seen thus far on this channel.

[@greeniejeannie]

Of course yes! We've all heard repeatedly over decades now that homeschooling is the devil incarnate. They want all the kids in the hands of the State. Full. Stop.

[@peterschlange1832]

exactly

[@MG-ot2yr]

Sounds like religious conservatives who more often home school their kids, and honestly they really screw them up, kids lack social interaction with peers/friends, etc.

[@IndianOutlaw1870]

There have been many dozens of public school shootings since 1997. Blaming homeschooling is absurd.

[@Red-kw4uu]

YOU are not shown evidences at all.Why are YOU saying you know it is not this?

[@timmerjoy8781]

Blaming the mom for homeschooling her children, saying she isnt cut out for it, and blaming the killings on ADHD and autism is disgusting. This "man", and I use that term very loosely, should be ashamed of himself and I would hope that for his speculation and baseless accusations on this case he is disbarred. Im honestly really disappointed in Law and Crime for this post

[@vdoniel]

I a100%. That man is disgraceful

[@DownbytheLakes]

Apparently has ZERO experience or knowledge of public school systems as well

[@alisha8586]

​@@DownbytheLakeswell having a social life does make a bit of a difference homeschooling you don't have anyone really but your family everyday.

[@Monica-hv4rf]

​@@alisha8586 so because they were homeschooled, they were locked inside and not allowed to have relationships with anyone outside of the family? 🙄

[@alisha8586]

@@Monica-hv4rf it definitely makes it harder for kids to have a social life I was computer schooled for two years in 8th grade I hated it had like no life outside of home I was free to do what I wanted but barely had friends at that point so I turned to snorting pills every kid is different there going to process things differently.

[@StellaKnights]

wow this guy just diagnosed a child we know absolutely nothing about , does this channel have no standards

[@scrolemodel]

No, he didn't. He mentioned it as a possibility.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

@@scrolemodel sounds more as fact than speculation/possibility.

[@mishaa7263]

i stopped taking them seriously when they put lipgloss ads in the middle of horrific cases like bffr

[@imcannabess]

Did this guy seriously try to blame the mom becuase the kid was homeschooled? My mom worked with developmentally disabled people her entire career. Disabilities like autism and ADHD don’t cause you to murder your whole family. No Child Left Behind has been terrible for public education and if anything, this kid was better off home schooled.

[@HLStrickland]

No Child Left Behind were UNfunded mandates. You are 100% correct. That lawyer has NO IDEA. Unless he knows this kid PERSONALLY he's speaking out of his butt.

[@donnahong5998]

Sounds like paid for media, doesn't it? This whole clip is upsetting. What ever your stance on gun control, it is well known they like to take GSW deaths and distort the figures. In this case I am guessing that the numbers he stated are highly related to gang deaths and a much smaller number to family violence. The whole interview is a joke and is transparent the only ones buying the narrative are sheep.

[@karencronin9502]

Amen!

[@Marie-fh9fr]

Well clearly he wasn't better off. This commentator is ridiculous with his comments but this kid clearly committed a heinous act while being homeschooled. Bottom line we don't know the full story yet.

[@mimimiraj7351]

​@@Marie-fh9fr ok...what about the kids in public schools...The number of public school students committing crimes is much higher

[@Armchairdetective189]

How ignorant of the guest to just assume this kid has autism 🙄 Way to go in putting all people on the spectrum in such a crappy group. Never mind blaming the mother for homeschooling. This guy has no business diagnosing or speaking on this without knowing no the family

[@cvp2000]

💯

[@cvp2000]

They really scraped the bottom of the barrel for this "expert".

[@janaegalloway5976]

I live up here where this happened and NOBODY has ever said he had ADHD All his neighbors have said he was a sweet helpful child always willing to volunteer

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@janaegalloway5976 Even if he DID have ADHD that wouldn't automatically make him a monster/preclude him from being sweet/nice. Whatever he had, he clearly had some unresolved mental issues, maybe schizophrenia or a sociopathic personality. The vast majority of people with Autism/ADHD/Depression etc etc. don't hurt/kill people and certainly not their own family.

[@richelleverootis5822]

Sounds to me like this man has a personal issue with home school and autism/ADHD. Kind of seemed biased

[@SharpTac]

Your guest makes an awful lot of assumptions for not knowing anything about these people. What a 🤡

[@citygirlingraham]

This lawyer was a terrible representative for discussing this case. His cringeworthy smile before he spoke was enough for me, he must be a defense attorney, coming up with every reason the defense will use to mitigate this case.

[@cavakilla]

Absolutely agree with you 💯 percent!

[@annb8296]

Why did you bring that man on as a guest?

[@citygirlingraham]

His smile at the beginning was cringeworthy. Not appropriate.

[@deniseconnors8124]

I’m disappointed in your choice of “guest”. I was under the impression, having viewed other broadcasts, that you had much higher standards.

[@starwaterenergy]

He looks creepy. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets arrested 🤮🤢

[@jokrmeta]

"man" . Hah!

[@QB10192]

He's not special needs.... he's a psychopath. Stop making excuses. He had the presence of mind to try to frame his baby brother. That's calculated. He needs to be tried as an adult. My heart goes out to the survivor..this is a heavy burden to carry.

[@boggsbrown2544]

You know those kind always blame disease of the mind for their diabolical crimes.

[@Sindollx666x]

Trying to blame his little brother WHOM HE MURDERED! Awful, tragic; and senseless. My heart aches for the young girl.

[@mrm1984]

He has a feeling and a hunch? This guy should never be called an expert. What a disgrace!!

[@ManaSong]

This "court-appointed counsel" guy is awful, just speculating out of his behind, blaming the mom, diagnosing the teen with autism or ADHD and that's why he killed his family? Giving the teen a defense to say maybe it was the sister who survived or that she's protecting the dead brother? What even is this? L&C please do not bring this guy on again, find someone credible who will stick with facts.

[@citygirlingraham]

He’s a defense attorney, he is thinking of ways to get leniency for this horrible child.

[@mbro11]

um he is doing his job as a defense attorney

[@Ben2Benw]

Poor baby, this is insane. I can't believe she survived, what an amazing girl. She is gonna need so much love from the community after this, please keep up with her if you live there

[@ruthlaferriere4276]

This guy way over stepped in this interview by diagnosing this boy without ever talking to the boy or the mother. It appears it was outside purview of what he’s qualified to offer. He shouldn’t ever be brought back on for opinion. That’s not the type of opinion anyone was looking for. It’s insulting.

[@algernon_2023]

Thumbs down. This lawyer guy is a clown.

[@TeresaS-q7x]

yeah, the mom homeschooling, what a jerk! What about the dad letting the son have access to a gun? Don't blame adhd or autism, many live with that and don't wipe out the whole family.

[@Marie-fh9fr]

ADHD and autism DO NOT make you annihilate your family. How dare this guy assume and in turn paint such a horrific image of these disorders.

[@debbie-0206]

This bloke is a clown. In minutes he diagnosed the 15 year old killer with adhd and autism and blamed the mum. Shame on him.

[@virginiafountain782]

Homeschooling has nothing to do with this. The kid, obviously, is disturbed.

[@citygirlingraham]

The word psycho comes to mind.

[@Kensington2714]

Agree. And he’s NOT! a child. The excuses already started. How about what he did is heinous! Now this little girl will be left traumatized

[@karmakane9069]

@@Kensington2714 15 years old is still a child

[@joas3324.]

Of course it has a lot to do with,he couldn’t interact with other children and socialize normally

[@linw6393]

@@Kensington2714 Excuses, so true. So many woke "experts" already decrying he not be charged as an adult. They want to put him in juvenile detention.

[@TAGMZs63]

Phillip Dube is a child psychologist as well as an attorney? His accusations and diagnosing are outlandish and offensive

[@Harleyy18]

FR!!!!! He has NO business diagnosing a child we haven’t learned a THING about. Blaming the mother for the kids actions. Absolute insanity.

[@amezrismommigower6839]

Shame on this man for blaming the victim. And shame on Law and Crime Network for having him on!

[@AshendrisSilvermist]

You shouldn't have aired/uploaded this. That incredibly biased guest's speculation and theorycrafting was disgusting. Disappointed L&C condoned this as great, factual reporting.

[@maggiemae4]

This guy is making way too many assumptions. He is making this killer into the victim. There are five dead family members and one little girl whose life is forever changed. Stop making excuses for a fifteen year old killer.

[@shelleysprinkle873]

Smh can't believe this guy said mom cudnt cope smh w his needs Wow blame the murdered mom Instead of wicked kid

[@DrPatriceBerry]

It is important that we not speculate about possible diagnoses until more information is available. My heart breaks for this family, especially the surviving sister.

[@eduardomoncada8677]

“May be Mom failed…” what a jerk

[@danamama6766]

yes what a creep.

[@kst4878]

Yeah and there's still and innocent little girl who has to live with his comments out there, attacking her victimized mother and not her twisted brother.

[@eh1702]

“It looks like Mom was not equipped to take this on.” Ie homeschooling. How would he know? Did he go and investigate independently? Then he should say so and back it up. And not two minutes after he said that the gun lockbox was kept away from the children - directly contradicting the report that the lockbox was routinely put by the front door and that the accused knew how to unlock it!

[@Laura_________]

What a load of crap this guy just put out there. He knows nothing about the particular facts yet is saying this kid had ADHD/Autism and the mother was not able to deal with it.

[@Blossoming-o6r]

Why is there even a question of whether he should be tried as an adult? He unalived 5 people in cold blood. I hate the term unalived especially in this context but KZbin keep randomly deleting my comments.

[@stoneneils]

Because he used a gun his father provided to him...at fifteen!! lol...he's not getting charged as an adult. Homeschooled too!! OMG.

[@katharina...]

5 people, both parents and 3 siblings 😔

[@Blossoming-o6r]

@katharina... Oh my goodness you're right. I accidentally put the wrong number. Thank you for letting me know.

[@EricLing64]

Safeguards for those that haven't quite developed into maturity. Dunno what it usually takes for cases to move to adult court, but this certainly feels like it should be one that is moved easily. If somehow it doesn't, they should consider looking over the law for some sort of amendment.

[@y.m.6667]

EXACTLY!!

[@snflwrday6817]

Law and Crime... better vetting of the "expert" is needed. L&C, do better.

[@citygirlingraham]

Right, this lawyer was horrible discussing this case.

[@lavieenrose73]

Enough with the mental health card ! This teen knew Exactly what he was doing, And, with the callousness of a very violent mind. Trial him as an adult and lock him up for life. Prayers for that brave little Angel that escaped. Poor angel , my heart is breaking for her. 😢😢😢

[@NikkiBikkiNZ]

Who is this expert? Sounds like he is making excuses for this kid without even knowing the facts. Blaming Autism and ADHD is completely unacceptable, specially as we don’t even know that that is what he had.

[@Bountie75]

Do you know all the facts then? It's amazing how this generation thinks it knows everything and better than Boomers and Gen X members. 😂 Trusts me, they do not care about your opinions

[@Bibba2727]

⁠@@Bountie75you’re a smart arse aren’t you?! Read the room! And the other comments!

[@NaziSS-p2d]

Judgment processes? What a load of BS. He killed all for nonsense and was calculated and calm enough to deceive the law enforcement by plotting as if his younger brother did it. He is a plain psychopath.

[@ashleeparkinson]

Praying for that sister who survived this is so tragic 😞💔🙏🏻

[@lionedheart]

I think he knew the sister was not dead. He simply didnt see her a threat just as he didn’t see his little brother as a threat either. In fact used his brother as a decoy.

[@Samantha.86]

​@@lionedheartshe was shot in the head and lived. He tried to kill her, too.

[@Melmelba]

This man also blaming the mother. Disgusting!

[@christineatkisson1888]

A kid shoots people at school and the parents are to blame for not being involved enough... kid shoots his family and his parents are being blamed for being too involved and homeschooling?

[@marissa._]

Another reason to be childfree.

[@xIIIQueenOfSwordsIIIx]

​@marissa._ what a ridiculous thing to say.

[@marissa._]

@@xIIIQueenOfSwordsIIIx Surrre. Okay. Lol. 😂

[@danamama6766]

You are completely correct. And this guy is not an authority on anything and nobody will support his theory. He made a total fool out of himself.

[@corneliusdenise]

Prayers for the surviving sister, she has a rough road

[@lionedheart]

He knew the sister was not dead

[@evalunloca]

How do u know that??? She played dead

[@lionedheart]

@@evalunloca They said in the video that she played dead. The little girl said herself

[@Mercipher21]

In addition to the other comments, this guy says "It'll take her years to get over this." No dude, there is no getting over this.

[@citygirlingraham]

He was a terrible defense attorney to discuss this case.

[@Mercipher21]

@@citygirlingraham 100%

[@loisthomas115]

Stop with the mental illness this was premeditated he will be charged as a adult, his dad made a fatal error giving his son the combination. Parents should pay close attention to their children.

[@citygirlingraham]

I agree, mental illness is very rare as a reason for taking out your entire family, giving a 15 yo the combination to the gun case was a horrible idea. This kid was psycho. Probably showed signs that parents don’t want to see. I agree that we as parents need to look for signs that our children are not “normal”, sibling abuse, animal cruelty, zero empathy. There are signs…just my thoughts.

[@nomudnolotus4410]

@@citygirlingraham mental illness is very rare as a reason for taking out your entire family...This kid was psycho 😂 Solid oxymoron mate.

[@SharpTac]

@@loisthomas115 they never said the dad gave him the combination. They said he knew the combination. You don't know how he knew it. He could have watched his dad without the dad knowing. Or maybe it was written down somewhere & the kid knew where.

[@linw6393]

@@SharpTac Thank you for saying that Sharp Tac. You are right!

[@mistyvaughn5558]

The lawyer in this interview is doing nothing but putting his ignorance on display for the entire world to see. It’s beyond asinine that he would accuse a dead mother -who chose to homeschool her kids, of not being capable of knowing if her child had autism, or ADHD. Instead, Like the mass of sheep running this country, his recommendation is to just drug him up and send him on his way. What an absolute disgrace this gentleman is to the memory of this evil boys dead mother.

[@linw6393]

But that is exactly what happens in Seattle! Woke capital of America!

[@dh1063]

This guy is all wrong!!! Diagnosing this kid is WRONG….stop defending the 15year old…..

[@kst4878]

I'm just done with this channel. As a licensed psychotherapist who was homeschooled, this mans comments are so unprofessional, unethical, and classless. I cannot believe they hired this man and then shared his unfounded comments.

[@JesseThompson-ef2oc]

Man to be honest i think its better to be homeschooled these days

[@bubblegxmmm]

That poor girl her whole family gone in an instant this is so heartbreaking

[@monicasuzanne1062]

I live in Washington State, very close to where this happened. Very heartbreaking for the young girl and the community 😞

[@islandgrl7346]

What’s with the attorney? He’s speculating and casting a negative slant on homeschooling. Couldn’t finish this - ridiculous.

[@melodylynn4504]

This attorney is making accusations that he shouldn’t be making! He’s actually blaming the mother for not being attentive to her son’s special needs……which he doesn’t even know if this child has special needs! ADHD is very different from Autism. Neither of these mental illnesses have anything to do with murder. He is doing the mother a grave disservice by blaming her!

[@veronikasingh4663]

This guy is making a lot of assumptions here. Mom’s homeschooling and inability to diagnose is the reason? Autism and ADHD as a reason? How many kids in public schools have done stuff like this?

[@eileenshanahan1521]

The mother is being blamed just because she homed schooled the children.

[@courtneytwait3351]

This guy is way too political. Every point he keeps making (without any proof mind you) seemed to always be brought back to some political point he wants to make. Guns, no child left behind program, etc. Im sorry but the best thing parents could do for their kids nowadays is homeschool them and shield them from the exact things this guy is suggesting, mainly medicating them.

[@gingerlane4990]

Please don’t ever have this Philip Dube’ on again. He’s blaming the mother and a child not being medicated. He knows nothing of this family. I understand speculation but he’s out of line.

[@evalunloca]

No child left behind is an absolute joke and what a cop out!!! Plz bever have this person on again. This young man is a psychopath!!! Plain and simple

[@flowerpower3618]

As a former homeschool mom , we are incredibly well read, well studied and many of us a degreed !plus you are able to access the public school services! My daughter had speech therapy through the school district because I knew she needed it. I worked in special ed before having kids. Philip is using typical stereotyping .

[@lisabelle7553]

That defense lawyer, trying to say this kid is special needs is absurd. He had to wherewithal to premeditate and make his younger brother look like he did it. How about ...the kid is just evil?

[@StellaKnights]

this guy must have a chrystal ball and a spirit guide , he knows so much I think he was there

[@citygirlingraham]

This attorney was a terrible choice to discuss this case.

[@sassmcg2606]

This guy is saying asinine things. He has zero knowledge of anything yet but comes on here and blames the mom for this and makes all kinds of assumptions about the kid and is trying to justify the killer's actions by assigning a mental health issue that he has no knowledge exists. Wow.

[@ms.lethal614]

This guy, as a guest, is not who we needed to hear from. He is improvising on something he knows nothing about

[@lthage373]

Wow, what a jump to say the parents (mom in particular) is at fault for this. You are WAY off base!

[@mirchmadness8179]

I love @law&crimenetwork, but I hope they read these comments and think again about having this guest attorney on again. Him suggesting that autism and/or adhd could be to blame for this crime is so incredibly upsetting. You’re out of line, Philip.

[@Anonymouslytired]

Not every teenage boy has Asha or autism. Over-diagnosing so many kids and putting them in mind altering meds is not helping the “mental health crisis” and only seems to be exacerbating it

[@boondocksdragon8959]

What a brave and strong kid. Sending her abundant Love & Light.

[@HLStrickland]

He's talking about WHEN this murderer is released? What does he (this layer) k now about this child? He's autistic? HOW would HE KNOW?

[@kiffen66]

"Mom was not equipped to take that on" but 100% sure Dad purchased the gun & shamed his son

[@Harleyy18]

Dude blamed everyone & every THING EXCEPT for the actual person who committed this heinous crime…

[@dargful]

The surviving daughter knows the whole story.

[@cynthiaconnors183]

That is a very dangerous individual. He MUST go through adult court and receive life with no parole.

[@jayjayfrmstatefarm9363]

These kids have lost their minds. About to get into trouble so you kill your entire family? I mean sheesh

[@fippywip]

yes definitely but also why was a 15 year old given the code to a gun safe??

[@JaedaLee-xb2uq]

@@jayjayfrmstatefarm9363 it’s sad how often this happens

[@DaisyMae809]

Oh, kids have been scared enough and in a panic since the beginning of time-especially with strict parents who rule in part by fear. The difference here is that he had access to a firearm in his desperate moment. I experienced extreme cruelty from a group of high school bullies for 3 years. I’m so grateful that I DIDN’T HAVE ACCESS to a firearm at that time of complete and utter despair my 16 year old self was enduring.

[@ThaddäusTentakel-v2n]

Excuse me, but what is 'these kids' even supposed to mean? That kind of framing makes no sense and also isn't any helpful.

[@lionedheart]

@@fippywipwe dont know if it was given. He might have peeked 👀 when Dad took it out

[@Alex-Mex]

So this lawyer thinks homeschooling could be a reason?! Ok, let’s say that’s true…which I know it isn’t but let’s give this guy the benefit of the doubt and say he’s right. What about bullying at the school also cause children to do school shootings. So homeschool is a bad thing and public schools are an issue too. So then what?! I would like him to answer that??? Since you want to blame the victim then at least have the decency to go through all scenarios. 😒

[@persephone9177]

Dude is making way too many assumptions😖

[@TheNinnyfee]

Is he truly blaming mom's homeschooling and hinting at the neurodivergent community? He has no idea. Neurodivergence is NOT the reason for erasing your family! This was planned and he tried to blame his brother, this was not an impulse crime There may be mental issues with anger regulation, but not neurodivergence as such. This approach rather hints at either sociopathy or psychotic paranoid behaviour.

[@karilyons1045]

So tired of these people coming on and automatically making it always about mass shootings by kids. Or death by firearms for kids. Automatically putting blame on parents, which is quite frankly ridiculous.

[@zoey_r]

That Philip guy is a doorknob

[@imcannabess]

I’ve been waiting to hear more about this story. Absolutely devastating.

[@Truecrimetrend]

@@imcannabess I will cover the story soon.

[@adventureviolet]

DONT listen to the theories about ADHD or Autism. This theory is ONLY an opinion from this whack job. NOT ONCE has it been reported by local authorities or news stations about him being disabled

[@mabandlandamase9826]

What a sad story. The little girl has to play dead in order to survive. And now,she is alone her brother will be in prison 😢

[@margie3389]

A strange guest. Not sure I agree with everything he’s saying.

[@misssnobooty]

Did this man really try to link adhd meds and the lack of having them to this crime?! LMAO

[@Indiartworks]

This has been absolutely horrible to hear about. I don't know...I mean I was a very troubled teenager but never once did I consider killing anyone! Wth?

[@PreciousPask82]

That poor girl must be traumatized. She lost her whole family. At the hand of her own brother. 💔

[@melanindescendants4240]

Wow soooo it’s moms fault?? Or homeschool fault?? Everything but his. He was competent enough to try to blame his brother!!! The attorney needs to sit tf down bc is blaming everyone else

[@LeahGratiot]

This happened in my neck of the woods. It's absolutely horrific. This poor girl. 😢

[@brandyjohnson7892]

So... your arguments on the homeschool front, means this kid is simply a... school shooter??? Like all the others we have seen for years now publicand privately educated. So mental illness does not discriminate. I believe what you meant to say was that the mom in this case did her best for her child, and sadly, it cost her and her family their lives.

[@yoshi31713]

The only question is WHAT HAPPENED? WHY did he do it? There has to be a concrete reason... Not just "Oh, he is crazy."

[@smargo7884]

So the gun unlocked the box took off through the house and started shooting. Yes we know where this is going. NO to gun control!!!!

[@ruthlaferriere4276]

Home school children generally have much better empathy, connection to family & more respectful. No one really knows about this family or child yet

[@cjr9298]

Wrong. Completely false. Research actually proves the opposite. When not exposed to complex situations and diverse populations that exist in public schools or non-home schooled environments children do not learn about these things and tend to be much more closed off, closed minded, and intolerant. Homeschooling is keeping children sheltered and locked in a bubble. You cannot learn empathy if you are only exposed to the same few people, culture, and home every single day of your life. Where are you getting your stats and research from? What I provided is easily found in academic and scientific research journals.

[@susanmoore7229]

15 yr old did it, not younger brother who got shot four times and had no GSR on his hands. Shooter went on to scheme and lie saying his younger, dead, brother did this. Horse pucky! Eleven yr old sister should never be subjected to her brother’s presence again unless she’s an adult and chooses. So sad for all the victim’s loved ones R.I.P.

[@christopher88719]

I am curious to know if the 15-year-old was on any type of medication.

[@imcannabess]

I wondered this too.

[@fippywip]

why does a 15 year old need the code to the gun safe?

[@westboundpony]

Unsecured firearms once again...People just do not learn.

[@JojoplusBo]

... I was wondering the exact same thing.

[@citygirlingraham]

Right, why would a 15 year old know the code of the lockbox of a gun? This is so horrible. Why?

[@melissabrown2713]

​@westboundpony A 15 year old knows right from wrong. It doesn't matter if they're out. He was going to kill them no matter what. He could have stabbed them to death. Should parents lock up their knifes?

[@fippywip]

@@melissabrown2713 stabbing is much more intimate and prolonged and wouldnt result in as many casualties

[@reesemcdonald3060]

What is happening to our world? So devastating.💔

[@ICUall666]

Same thing that’s always been happening 😂 it’s just in your face with the internet

[@Melmelba]

Properly medicated? You do realize that most young males who commit such atrocities “were” on medications!

[@lunarphoenixforyourface]

Guest speaker needs to get his opinions and his eyebrows under control

[@LoVe-kl4zl]

According to this clown, public school kids do not commit murder

[@krystal7916]

Death penalty, under the jail

[@tamigreene2709]

He needs to be charged as an adult!!!! This guy seems to have problems ...

[@ghhm2705]

I agree. I want to see him charged as an adult, but I have zero hope in King County to do the right thing.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

NOBODY should be casting shade on the heroic eleven year old survivor of this tragic abomination, nor the thirteen year old, whom the perpetrator tried to set up as a fall guy. It’s absurd to even discuss the other kids’ involvement in any way. The parents are the victims as well. There is only one person who has culpability in this crime and he needs to be tried as an adult. Some people are born bad.

[@Seven_1865]

What’s the point of a locked box if your child knows the combination? How sad and avoidable.

[@HLStrickland]

That has not been proven yet.

[@GabriellaDeLaRosa-t3d]

Exactly gun owners tend to be so lax with their weapons even those with kids

[@fippywip]

@@HLStricklandthe sister said he knew it

[@HLStrickland]

@@fippywip Okay I must have missed that.

[@linw6393]

@@HLStrickland Thank You @HL That needed to be said! All the blame here is pure speculation about his Dad and the gun!